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I think you should explain your most recent activity to the guy who tried to help you out. Please respond at your earliest opportunity. --Belisarius17 03:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Simple to explain-I am an IDIOT! I thought you tried to Pk me...My mistake SORRY! but I have seen you @ Lance Building and read your new stuff about PKing and it began to look like looked...not good.I am sorry. My mistake!--Belisarius17 04:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for being gracious! Well my village called they want their IDIOT back so i am off!--Belisarius17 04:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Page looks REALLY good--Belisarius17 02:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
You have apparently been hitting Zombras folks while you pursued your new career. I can't support you while you are apparently pking my group. We are the Earletown Rangers but we are connected to Zombras-just look at the messages below...and by the way-why are you wasting time PKing when the burb is on it's knees? You said you were coming to work with us. Again please explain. --Belisarius17 00:47, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
So according to my understanding of this you have been working with us but against have to admit this is complicated. Well-I will revive if I can find you-you were'nt at last location. This is starting to be like one of those movies where 2 guys are on opposite sides of the Law. I am going to have to follow the orders I get from my boss but you did come a long way so I figure I owe you at least one revive for old times sake. And some friendly advice-either make a truce with Zombras-or "get the heck out of Dodge" cause there are some focused Hunters looking for you...and yes I know PKers love the whole outlaw hunted thing (heck we straightjacketed Lawmen types love a good battle too) But the burb is cooked and the Metagaming hoardes are going to get to end game if the suris keep snipping. I think I might have a better place for your...unique skill set by the way-ever hear of a Lad by the name of Poodle of Doom?-He runs EVIL. Shall I make an introduction?--Belisarius17 15:04, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

PS-Location?--Belisarius17 15:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC) Went to location-7zeds outside,20 bodies, checked inside 13zedsinside! and 2 bodies-I don't have you contact listed (my bad) so I could not tell who is you.Suggest Mays Way 75,11 as point or move to unoccupied area and post it to me.Will get you with 10 Ap required but need to do it without having to DNA scan.--Belisarius17 02:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Zombra's Pub Rangers

You offered your assistance--Belisarius17 14:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC). We are in need. Earletown is being ravaged by remnants of the MOB. We've held them off as long as possible, but we're now down to a seige at our Pub. It won't last 2 days. The Rangers have set up a safehouse at GOTOBED Library on the border in Chancelewood. It is close to FAKS, Gas, and Needles, but we have no source for ammo. We will gather survivors of the seige and await your assistance. Taco out. --Taco2 15:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Will be looking for ya Lad. SSgt Ed Zeplin, Zombras Pub Rangers at your service! Entry point is through the Mansion. Check the map you can't miss it. Beauty of it is that is is a huge ruined mansion that you can enter and MOST of any zeds in there are looking for revives because it is sort of a sacred ground. Wouldn't sleep there but it is entry to all surrounding builds and free run lanes.--Belisarius17 19:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Gather as much ammo as you can. There isn't a PD in working order within a day's march from here. We are all out of ammo.--Taco2 23:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
And of course some of us haven't learned to shoot straight yet...--Belisarius17 00:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
well thats one of the 1st things i learned how to do other than diagnose and free run--Patrick MacManus talk 01:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)``
UPDATE: We are now all converging on Claire Hospital in Western Earletown. You might save some time by going Curtin Mansion, Haslock...Mee Library and then diagonally up to Claire. However, I don't know the status of the Cauthupe Library and the Factory. Be careful. Taco out.--Taco2 17:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Glad to see you made it. Go to our wiki page's discussion. There is a link there to our discussion board. Join and you'll get full details on the situation.--Taco2 18:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Dude...I don't know where you went...but everyone is waiting for you.--Taco2 14:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I am at Claire General like you said. I went and got ammo and now I'm at the hospital.--Patrick MacManus talk 20:33, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Might want to shift over to the Bruce building. Have hot coffee from a vending machine and PIE from a guy in a group called THEM (they always have pie). Just ask for Ed Zeplin of the rangers...probably be on the roof with my Binochs...--Belisarius17 14:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Great mauled in the middle of the night an RPs in the area??--Patrick MacManus talk 18:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I got a needle with your name on it-give me a sec to look at the map--Belisarius17 18:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually im right outside the Bruce building--Patrick MacManus talk 18:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

SWEET!Ok, I will revive as soon as my AP comes back up to the 11 plus enough to get there and back. In the meantime, Strongly suggest you click here:

And register on our forums. You will recognise me by sgt erikson in forum and Ed Zeplin in game.--Belisarius17 18:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Heads up-you might get a revive sooner. i spent an in game AP to ask a guy from THEM to help you out. Also put a call out to the boss but she was preety active earlier so hopefully someone will get to you soon. then the ruined church is an OK entry point if you are infected and can't move to far...either way I will try to keep an eye out for you-we are glad you are here and I think we are tipping the scales back again finally!--Belisarius17 19:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)


One of the links in your signature was broken, I went ahead and fixed it for you. Hope you don't mind!--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Red Hawk appreciate it.--Patrick MacManus talk 01:40, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello from the Wulves group

Saw you contacted Rouge Medic who is a friend of ours. He is great to work with.

Check us out and let us know if you would like to work with us as allies for your group as well.

You can respond to me or on the discussion page of the Wulves.

Regards,--Belisarius17 04:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Done! We welcome all allies starting or not, it can be tough starting a group and many small groups cooperating is better than one big one in our way of thinking! I will be updating one of our current Ops with Wulves/Second Company tomorrow on that companys' discussion page. It just so happens that Rouge is with me and another wulve operative on this one and we would love to have you along or help you out it you need it. First company is mostly in Wyke Hills at the moment, Elements of second are in Danversbank and Third Company is all over the place!!!

We are working out of Voss PD and The Standfast Arms in Danversbank at the moment-but we move ALot. Let me know how we can help! --Belisarius17 04:34, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! Taco is GREAT! She is a terrific leader! My Alt with them is Ed Zeplin. This will be excellent! Left her a note so she will see your post-she is great at communications and should be back on @ around 9EST. Signing off--Belisarius17 04:54, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


It turns out there is already a group by the name of People's Liberation Army :( But I can move it to PLA or anything else you'd like. Sorry about that. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd say at this point he can just take the page over. :/ I hate it when people make a group, lie about the numbers, then abandon it over a year and a half ago.-- SA 02:59, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
So, move the old People's Liberation Army to People's Liberation Army (2008) and inform the "user"? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Honestly I wouldn't even move it myself. I don't ever remember seeing it on the stats page or ANYTHING. I'd just have him take over the page. If you want to do that shit though, go ahead.-- SA 03:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
It makes it a little easier because of the moves etc. I won't need to delete anything or remake any pages or redirects. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've moved the pages around, and you can find your page at People's Liberation Army now. P.L.A. still redirects to it, so don't worry about having to fix any links. Have a good time making your group! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


Why did you revert this? --Janus talk 23:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Why shouldn't he have? The information is misleading, and definitely POV. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 03:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Well if you read what someone put as the description of an Assassin is(even though I don't agree with what the original author wrote), it has nothing to do with PKers and PKing. Killing a zombie should not be included in a PKer article, since PKers don't usually kill zombies. Also technically speaking the tactic that Assassin's take to be called an Assassin would be a survivor tactic.--Patrick MacManus talk 04:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
POV? Misleading? lolwut? I've just added it because I find the terms "Player Killer and Assassin to be very similar, that's why I wrote PKer =/= Assassin.
Killing a zombie should not be included in a PKer article, since PKers don't usually kill zombies. Yet, the Zker term (and zombie spy) is there, NPOV, just like I added the Assassin one, NPOV.
(btw, never heard of Assassins before the article was created. :/) --Janus talk 14:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Janus, the reason you've never heard of it is because the creator of that article "Assassin" decided to create a page based off of his own newly created group. Hence the POV. It's propaganda, and total horseshit, I might add. An Assassin is not a person who goes and stab zombies in the streets - that's a really stupid trenchoater - an Assassin is anyone who goes and kills specific targets for a particular reason. And with any weapon of their choosing, I might add. Additionally, the Assassin article specifically states that " If you want to be a PK assassin, don't attack in building that have more than one survivor, mainly because the knife only takes a 2% damage rate, just kill the survivor (depending on your AP) and move along without dumping his body on the streets." Hence misleading. The Article clearly states that PKers who specialize in knives are Assassins as well. Once again, the entire article is bullshit, but that's not the point. The idea that a PKer is not the same thing as an Assassin is ridiculous, and should never have made it onto the PKer Page, due to the direct contradiction between the Assassin article's content and the statement on the PKer article. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 15:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Also Janus the reason why a ZKer and Zombie Spy are there is because a ZKer is the equivalent to a PKer since a PKer is a survivor who kills other survivors and a ZKer is a zombie who kills other zombies. A zombie spy usually PKs because he/she has to or to weaken the forces for the main horde. Zombie spies are hated widely throughout all of Malton so that is why they end up being killed/killing.--Patrick MacManus talk 18:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, totally my bad; I didn't notice the user's group. :/ Then, maybe, Assassin should be moved to the author/group's subspace? Since it's not a "true" term. --Janus talk 20:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Image Categories

Do not wipe categories from images. All this does is create even more work for those of us trying to sort the wiki. If a category is incorrect either fix it or leave it alone. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 05:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Well the reason why i did that is because the category was incorrect. The picture was under the unused category, yet it is being used here: Rufus Vanzant.--Patrick MacManus talk 21:09, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I also am unsure of where to put the picture so that's why I took it out of that category--Patrick MacManus talk 01:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Category:Unsorted Images :P --Janus talk 00:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
That is a scary category. -- Rahrah doesn't remember the age of blinking text. 00:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Día duit

Failté romhat ar an mhicí, agus fheicí mé do ghadaíocht le mó cód! Ach, sin ceart go leor. Lean ort leis an t-fhorneart. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 03:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, man. All I said was "Welcome to the wiki. I saw you steal my code, but that's okay. Just keep up the violence". Don't sweat it, I didn't really expect you to be líofa even if you were from here. No one really is. Tongue :P. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 04:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
It's always a pleasure to meet a fan. You should say hi some time. And don't worry about the complexities of coding this buggering thing. I just picked it up as I went along by stealing bits and pieces everywhere too, eventually learning how the things I was nabbing worked and going gradually from tweaking and fiddling to creating. You'll pick it up quickly enough, you already seem to be doing so. As for your version of the map, this might be of some assistance to you. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 04:53, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Addendum, this might be useful to you. Happy trails! For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 23:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

People's Liberation Army

Your page was unlinked, so I linked it here.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


[1] You may be able to find some very nice ones on there, I got to see them live the other day thats all from the concert. Theres a great one with blue lights coming down and Ivan has both his arms spread out. -- Emot-argh.gif 00:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh Patty

Oh Patty, it must be a love hate relationship if your doing this to me:

Oh well, ill have to find you now.--HiteiKan 23:23, 12 August 2010 (BST)


back·stabbed, back·stab·bing, back·stabs-To attack (someone) unfairly, especially in an underhand, deceitful manner:

"Wait what?! Belisarius, what do you mean and who was trying to help me?--Patrick MacManus talk 04:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC) haha No man. Earletown Rangers are my friends. remember you helped me I help you. We are allies. "--Patrick MacManus talk 04:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.-Ezekiel 25:17

REAL Pkers announce their intentions BEFORE they strike. An unannounced ambush on a group that you lied to is scornfully lame-the move of a jackal, not a lion.--Belisarius17 02:52, 13 August 2010 (BST)

In answer to your question-It's from Pulp Fiction Paddy Lad: A Hitman named Jules (Played by Samuel L Jackson) used to quote Ezekiel 25:17 before he shot someone down-here he is explaining it to a would be criminal:
"Ezekiel 25:17; See, now I'm thinkin': maybe it means you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. And I'd like that. But that ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd." -Jules Winnfield, Pulp Fiction
Anyway-like you said; you have my attention. Unfortunately Earletown has a bit of a zed infestation problem @ the moment. Come on over: I am sure they would love to eat you. Meantime I will be busy reviving and rebuilding. I will let you know when I am looking for you by declaring "Vendetta" with a given time frame. If I drop what we are doing now to duel with you-we both will end up as Zed buffet.--Belisarius17 07:11, 19 August 2010 (BST)
Patrick, I feel the need to ask you this: Why is it you apparently think we were going to let you roam wild killing people in Earletown? So what if we issued death threats, the name of the game is called bounty hunting Pat. I also know you attempted to talk an allies alt in to greifing us, great choice there. Once me and my fellow rangers can get this Earletown situation under control, im going to make it my personal goal to grief you out of the Earletown/Rolt Heights area.--HiteiKan 19:07, 21 August 2010 (BST)
I wont tell you who he is exactly, allies don`t snitch on allies, right? I will tell you he`s in the BAR though.--HiteiKan 19:26, 21 August 2010 (BST)


I thought that Cindy of the PKer museum should have a "Perky" demeanor so I searched for a image and found this: Stewardess Face.jpg

Is it me, or is there something slightly Manic in that smile?--Belisarius17 03:01, 22 August 2010 (BST)

You know Belisarius, as much as I want to kill you I want to be your friend too. I saw that you like my do you like the update?--Patrick MacManus talk 03:04, 22 August 2010 (BST)
The page is very cool in my humble opinion, I like it very much. Your page is an unending source of interest-I wish I had your talent for it-although it's constant changing makes Paddy a difficult figure to visualize. Of course - I kind of think that "Man of a thousand faces" thing makes sense for a guy on the run, so that works too. By the way; don't worry about the homicidal urges Paddy, I don't take it personal-I don't fear PKers at all-My alts have been stalked by some of the best and I will be revived in hours unless the entire burb is knocked out-It is Darwin Days in Malton and that is a part of it-I have good groups behind me. To tell you the truth- I am looking forward to offering you Kanly- I think you and I will enjoy it. Question: Did I detect some of the Black Hand of Oblivion fame in some of your projects?--Belisarius17 03:31, 22 August 2010 (BST)
Absolutely but no one ever wants to join my groups so i scrapped the idea before I fell in love with it. I don't understand your statement: "I am looking forward to offering you Kanly- I think you and I will enjoy it." could you please clarify for me?--Patrick MacManus talk 03:44, 22 August 2010 (BST)

Kanly: The Art of the VENDETTA

Kanly – "Formal feud or vendetta under the rules of the Great Convention carried on according to the strictest limitations. Regulated form of warfare between noble houses, intended to "reduce involvement of innocent bystanders". The rules require formal declarations of intent and restrict permissible weapons." (It's from Dune by Frank Herbert)

The actual term itself of Turkish origin but being an American I presented it to the last individual as follows on his groups forum:

"Kanly!!! I would like you to know that due to the actions of one "NAME DELETED" who killed my alt Ed Zeplin during Biertag while a state of Ceasefire with the Earletown Rangers was flashing green on your group page, that I am henceforth single handedly, and without the Rangers, declaring Kanly (a personal vendetta) on this despicable bushwacker. In the tradition of the mountain man Jeremiah Johnson, who warred on the whole Crow nation single handed, I will count coupe 5 to 1 for this cowardly act. To be clear: I will take his scalp 5 times-and I do not care how many times he gets me or how long it takes (Zeplin is not much of a hunter and still has to be the combat medic for the Rangers). Since my dealings with "NAME DELETED" have convinced me that he is an honorable "Shootist" I shall extend the courtesy of notification of when satisfaction has been achieved.--Belisarius17 01:11, 9 July 2010 (BST)"

Oddly enough, in the event it all turned out that I was COMPLETELY wrong about this situation and I withdrew the Kanly because the person was correct in their actions- a formal state of hostilities had begun between the Rangers and them via proxy- I just did not notice it, so I retracted Kanly here: As I PMed you, I find your arguments compelling and I formally retract the state of vendetta. Further, for the record I declare that your actions were appropriate within the realm of "Jus Bellus" and that this was a case of misunderstanding on MY PART, not yours. Now we can go back to killing each other as a result of unfortunate circumstances ala the Montagues and Capulets, the Souix and the 7th Cavalry or my ancestors and everybody else. and He responded: "You're a gentleman Zep, Thanks for taking the time to establish the facts. For my part, I apologise for killing you during a listed ceasefire, I should have checked."

So- the idea of Kanly for me-is a state of declared personal war like Jeremiah Johnson's war on the Crow- You agree to terms, declare it and when it is over, it is done.--Belisarius17 04:21, 22 August 2010 (BST)

Small skull and crossed guns.jpg This user is a Shootist not a PKer
I won't be wronged, or insulted, or laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, I require the same of them. - John B. Books

I disapprove of his very existence. I considered ending it myself on several occasions, but ... self-control always got the better of me. Besides, I'm a sporting man. I'm not a killer. - Doc Holliday

Well Kanly it is old friend. Let me know the rules you wish to request and I will do the same. As I read somewhere: "Urbandead is a 24/7/365 game of cat and mouse." I would love to wage Kanly with you or your allies which ever you wish. It will be fun once Earletwon is rebuilt.--Patrick MacManus talk 04:44, 22 August 2010 (BST)

New look, Patrick me Lad?

I see you're sporting a new look again. Man o'a thousand faces, eh Laddie buck? A bit grim in tha' background for a son o' Erin like yourself, would'nt ya say Lad? Ah well-we all get a bit grim when in our cups, eh? Glad to see you are about again.--Belisarius17 01:54, 24 September 2010 (BST)

Well I am always about, this face suits me better the other was just too clean cut. I would love a revive then I would really be active.--Patrick MacManus talk 14:13, 24 September 2010 (BST)
Shame on you Patrick! Attacking one of my teammates BEFORE the Vendetta had been announced?!AND THEN RUNNING OUT OF AMMO and not finishing the JOB?!!!!??? No matter-it's water under the bridge (or perhaps over the DAMN would be better put)-LT bagged you and now you have the Rangers with a search and destroy, shoot on sight order out for you. Well I guess this is what you wanted-to quote COOL HAND LUKE:

What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men.

Very well-Just as you sow, so shall you reap! Good Luck--Belisarius17 03:59, 25 September 2010 (BST) Boondock saints.jpg
All for Naught, Lad.--Belisarius17 05:14, 5 October 2010 (BST)
Well that's nice. But just as you revived her someone shall revive me.--Patrick MacManus talk 15:09, 5 October 2010 (BST)


Haha, thanks for reminding me to update that. What's even worse is that I'm younger than that IRL, but shhhh, the voters don't need to know. Oh wait, what voters...--President AlnerERIS Symbol Version 2.png 01:40, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Say, Patrick

Mind if I borrow your spiffy map (IE:This One) for a project of my own?--HiteiKan 00:07, 19 October 2010 (BST)

No I don't mind if you borrow borrowed stuff just be sure to thank Misanthropy once you've used it.--Patrick MacManus talk 20:01, 23 October 2010 (BST)


Excuse the harassment, but you've been a bit rare recently on the channels of which I know that you use them, so I'm using an extra channel to increase my chances of you seeing it timely. I've left a PM on the PKA for you. Please check it and give me a toot. -- Spiderzed 15:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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