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Archive of all talk prior to October 2009.

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You're crazy. Lol. I tried an idea like that once. The Status Reporters. --Haliman - Talk 04:21, 6 July 2009 (BST)
Fortunately for me, I already had 33 suburbs knocked out of the gate, and plenty of reports to use as templates. It's going to be time consuming, but I think I could have this done solo in 2-4 weeks. Sooner if a few people would be willing to help with writing up danger reports. (Stupid fire departments :/)--Red Hawk One 04:26, 6 July 2009 (BST)
P.S. For anyone who cares about the method to this madness, I'm working from the top-right to the bottom-left, making sure that all Hospitals, Fire Stations, Police Departments, and NTs have reports, then creating a Building Information Center for the suburb with all of the above plus phone masts, malls, and landmarks (mansions, cathedrals, stadiums, etc).--Red Hawk One 04:34, 6 July 2009 (BST)
I got the NE corner. Well, TSR did. --Haliman - Talk 05:17, 6 July 2009 (BST)
I noticed. You guys really saved me some time there. Thanks! Also, would you mind if I "borrowed" your map to chart my progress? --Red Hawk One 05:27, 6 July 2009 (BST)
Go ahead, mate. TSR is dead. My main focus is on the UBCS now. YOU SHOULD SO TOTALLY JOIN. --Haliman - Talk 07:04, 6 July 2009 (BST)
Thanks for the clearance. And as tempting as your offer is, I'm afraid Santlerville is a long commute from Rhodenbank.--Red Hawk One 07:07, 6 July 2009 (BST)
You sure? We could use a dedicated player like yourself. --Haliman - Talk 07:10, 6 July 2009 (BST)
Will ya at least check out our chatbox? Lol. The guys would love to meet you. Just say Hal invited you. I'm currently banned for 10 minutes for spamming. LOL. --Haliman - Talk 06:56, 9 July 2009 (BST)
Is it possible to be any more awkward? --Cyberbob 07:16, 9 July 2009 (BST)
We could easily make it more awkward.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 07:20, 9 July 2009 (BST)
I am going to go out on a limb, and say you're desperate. Hali desperate for members, and Bob desperate for trolling. SA is just being a me-too.--Thadeous Oakley 00:01, 10 July 2009 (BST)
Okay, this is just getting bizarre.~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:18, 10 July 2009 (BST)
Welcome to the wiki!--Thadeous Oakley 11:47, 10 July 2009 (BST)
You're desperate for human contact. Any human contact. --Cyberbob 12:16, 10 July 2009 (BST)

Great job creating all those suburb information centers and building danger reports. I had to change your navbar to fit the other resource pages, and I created a map linking to all the suburb center pages, so it would be easier to find them. Still, if you had not made the initial push, this would never have happen. Good job --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 13:13, 10 July 2009 (BST)

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
hagnat has given red hawk a cookie for creating suburb information centers for every suburb in malton
Ideally I am hoping to model the BIC page on Necrowatch, but until then your navbar modification looks quite a bit easier to use. Thanks for that map thing as well, I can't believe I didn't think of that! Mmmm, cookie... ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 20:39, 10 July 2009 (BST)

I just noticed that several suburb information centers have been signed. While I (and the community) appreciate the work and effort of creating such pages, since they are supposed to belong to the community they shouldn't be signed by the user who created them. Could you please remove them ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 02:13, 23 July 2009 (BST)

No problem

No problem, I just need to make the Building Information pages once I have finished with the suburb pages. D: That'll be a pain, but it'll make the wiki a better place I'm sure. Congrats on thinking it up, by the way. :)

--RahrahCome join the #party!21:51, 7 July 2009 (BST)
Righty; I've linked up all the suburbs (fingers crossed I've got them all, and dealt with the No-NT suburbs correctly), so now we have to make the TRP report templates, put them in the BIC's and we're done? :D --RahrahCome join the #party!22:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
Ah yes, must remember to do that. Also, thanks for editing Buttonville's BIC to include Buckley, I forgot. That's an interesting map,(the one on your talk page) is it recently updated? And thanks about the template :D ----RahrahCome join the #party!19:37, 8 July 2009 (BST)
That's good! I'm currently working on a Malton-wide TRP/Mall/Suburb status map, located here. It'd be great if you could help. Adding in the TRPs, copy and paste one that was done before, like :<div style="position: absolute; left: 25px; top: 17px"> {|{{User:DangerReport/Dovey Boulevard Fire Station|template=StatusMap Formatter}}| |}</div> and replace the "left" with the x co-ordinate, times 8, then add one. Do the same for "top" but for the y co-ordinate. Then replace the name of the TRP where the name is present. --RahrahCome join the #party!08:44, 13 July 2009 (BST)

Yeah, the one at the moment is a PD one. It's not a problem, it was a simple thing; and Rooster has offered to make one using his bot. :) The problem is, when I use {{StatusMap PD}} on a page, it breaks. Strange. The template breaks, that is.

I suppose what would be a good thing to do now is to try and spread the word, get some big groups using the BIC, like the DEM and MOB, things like that. :) --RahrahCome join the #party!}20:09, 21 July 2009 (BST)


Good work with the suburb Building Information Center whatnot. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:43, 10 July 2009 (BST)

Agree. Just wondering, did you do all of this by hands? Or, more appropriately, with a bot? -- Kittithaj 16:22, 11 July 2009 (BST)
By hand (I wouldn't even know how to find or program a bot anyways). I had about 5-8 tabs running at all times, and kept copying and pasting the necessary info. It was mostly smooth sailing (turning out a report/listing per minute), but there were quite few times where I would have to go in and write up something completely by hand. I'm not completely sure a bot could have patched those holes. Besides, I actually kind of enjoyed filing all those reports.~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 20:42, 11 July 2009 (BST)
Wow. You are really diligent. If you need help with bot-assisted automated updating, try asking The Rooster. -- Kittithaj 15:26, 13 July 2009 (BST)

Danger Reports

Man, I think you need to reorg some of those headers, it's all a bit haphazard concerning the BIC and reports and whatnot.

Anyway, no problem with the danger reports. I created every last possible one. I also churned out Status Maps for every building type. You can see them on each subcategory of Category:Building Danger Levels if you're interested.

Can I ask you take a look through Category:Danger Reports and its subcategories for any errors, particularly with regards to the BIC category which I also messed with.

Ongoing discussion regarding all this is spread over many user talk pages, but there is a little centralized stuff on my page if you want to mention anything important there.

Thanks for the help. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 01:50, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I did not see anything wrong with the categories (granted, I only scanned over them). I'm curious, is there any way to organize the nameless buildings (junkyards, factories, etc.) by a different method, such as by suburb? Alphabetically is a little hard to find the particular building you're looking for.
As for the goofy headers, I'm planning on remodeling the page, ideally modeling it off of Necrowatch.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 06:00, 30 July 2009 (BST)
Aye the sort key's could be changed, but to what? If we sorted them by suburb all the "S" suburbs would show up under one section, etc. Could always come up with a code system using the 52 letters (upper and lower case). A=suburb a and b, B=Suburb c etc. Alternatively I could key based on co-ords and pad the zeros so we get ten sections, each one representing a "column" of Malton... I'm just throwing ideas about here, I agree that sorting them all under one heading is a bit useless. Any other thoughts?
On a semi-related note, I had to muck about with you sig as the pipes were interfering in the danger report templates, causing some of the sig and the timestamp to be cut off. I even threw in some tag fixes so it's a bit nicer to edit, hope you don't mind. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:09, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I've thought it over some more, and I realize there's actually a lot of building's that have useless keys.

  • Churches and Cathedrals all start with "St.", so that should be ignored.
  • Clubs and Forts all start with a prefix naming them as such, so that should be ignored.
  • Hospitals are either "St." something or something "General", should St. be ignored?
  • The co-ord ones: Factory, Junkyard, Warehouse.

What do you think about the hospitals, it's sorta 60:40 in favour of St. from the looks of the Category: Hospital Danger Levels. Would people prefer St. ungrouped given the fact there are other things in order anyway, would they expect "St." under "S" in such a case?

The co-ords, I'm thinking either by their number (so 0-9, for ten "columns") or, and here's a thought, by district (NW-5, SE-2 etc). Would districts be a good idea? They'd need a code to work though A=NW-1, B=NW-2, etc. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 03:08, 26 August 2009 (BST)

I think it would be best to leave the hospitals as "St. Such-and-such" under the "s" header. Most people I've seen refer to them like that, so categorizing them by their second word might throw these people off. As for the co-ord pages, I like the idea of arranging them in columns; the district one sounds like it could get complicated, although I'm not completely sure what you mean by that. Care to elaborate?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 03:29, 26 August 2009 (BST)
Also, before I forget, is it possible to link the squares on the status maps to their corresponding danger reports? (i.e. the square on the NT status map corresponding with The Blackmore Building would link to User:DangerReport/The Blackmore Building).--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 03:34, 26 August 2009 (BST)
We arrange them by districts, so any junkyards for example in the NW-1 district would be sorted under "A" (like so: [[Category:Junkyard Danger Levels|A, Junkyard X,Y]]), any in the NW-2 district would be sorted under "B" etc. It might be confusing, and I guess the sorting by co-ords is probably the better option.
It could be done. Say like the x's on the map on the TRP page. However, I fear that would stress the inclusion limits. It might double the code on each map page. Those pages would still work of course, but including them, anywhere would likely make everything fail horribly. Besides, all those links make the load time much nastier. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 03:51, 26 August 2009 (BST)
Yeah, arranging them by districts would probably necessitate posting the district map on the page as well (and even at that, the districts seem kind of non-sequitur), so I'd say stick with the coordinates. As for the maps, it's a bummer to hear that, but based off what you're saying it sounds like leaving them alone is for the best.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 04:02, 26 August 2009 (BST)

Revive Point Updaters

Are these being done by the BIC? Because I'm doing them at the moment, trying to make Suburb pages look more uniform. --RahrahCome join the #party!11:41, 5 September 2009 (BST)

Yes, they go at the bottom of each suburb information page under the "Revive Points" header. Of course nobody's gotten around to writing them up yet, so by all means, let 'er rip! Thanks for taking care of this.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 00:26, 6 September 2009 (BST)

Unmerging Locations

I noticed that some of the locations you posted for SD still have many incoming links. You need to fix these to point to the new articles. This is why people don't like unmerging stuff as it can take ages to fix all those links sometimes (streets are the worst, since they can generally get an incoming from every location in the suburb). Just copy pasting content around is the easy bit :P. Just a head's up. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:20, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Right, completely forgot about that part. This is going to make fixing the BIC look easy.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:21, 16 August 2009 (BST)

I put Dakerstown Buildings up for deletion. Should be interesting see, how many wiki rules I broke in the process. Anyhoot, did you redirect Wykewoods coordinate pairs to the unmerged new pages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maps (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

I believe I did. Thanks for helping.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:04, 5 September 2009 (BST)

BIC: Complaints

If you have seen a mistake or undesirable change by me, please post it here and I will look into it.


Not sure why you felt the need to overwrite my Pennville Building Information Center besides to spread your name everywhere, given that it is virtually identical. But it looks fine to me, so whatever. Bodicus 11:24, 21 July 2009 (EST)

Your center was a category, while all the other ones were just pages. Sorry about switching them out, I'm just trying to make the BIC as uniform as possible.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 18:54, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Crang Building

Hi this Officer VarVarna from StäV we are maintaining the Crang telephone changed the status in the wrong way crang is since X-months without any problems. Please undo your changes...

It's already back up to date.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:53, 13 July 2009 (BST)



Project NecroWatch

Hello! I've seen some of your danger reports, and I wanted to say thanks for helping the Wiki. So, thanks for that! Since you're interested in roaming around and reporting on what you find, I took the liberty of passing your name onto A.L.I.C.E. because I thought you might be perfect for NecroWatch. She seemed to agree. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:07, 30 March 2009 (BST)

ALICE.png A.L.I.C.E. - NecroNet 2.0
Greetings Red Hawk One/Archive 1. I have been observing you. Do not be alarmed. I have analyzed your potential and determined that you would make a perfect test subj<<ERROR>> NecroTechnician. As an organization, NecroWatch requires absolutely no "group" affiliation or commitments, thus freeing you to act according to your own motives, desires, and goals. The only requirement from you as a NecroTechnician is the task of reporting NecroNet scans from facilities within your suburb(s). Even then you would have the choice of how often you complete this task or which facilities you would prefer to work with. If you are interested in joining all you need to do is confirm your membership by signing up here. Starting on January 1st 2008 all NecroNet scans reported to NecroWatch by licensed NecroTechnicians will count towards ranks with the ultimate prize of earning delicious cake.

This Template

Because cooperation is the key to survival.

is in danger of being deleted as unused. Please advise if you still want it. --– Nubis NWO 13:34, 7 June 2009 (BST)

Feel free, I made for a group that never got off the ground, so it's pretty much trash anyways.


I copied the configuration of your page and edited some things to my own page, I hope you don't mind. If there is any problem just tell me. Thoroaeborus 00:29, 12 August 2009 (BST)

I love you

Epic. --xoxo 07:21, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Anytime.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:22, 29 August 2009 (BST)
A WINNER IS YOU!--Orange Talk 00:40, 5 September 2009 (BST)

Confirmed groups

What are you doing with pages like SHADOW COMPANY, Tiera and Category:Confirmed Groups/stats? Creating empty pages for every group that gets more than 10 members for a short time doesn't seem like a very good idea. We've had others who have gone around creating stub pages for every group on the stats page... they just end up getting speedydeleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:54 7 September 2009 (BST)

Confirmed groups?

Just wondering why you took TZH off of confirmed groups. Last I saw our numbers were above 10. Just curious. -- Dhavid Grohl (siggy thing ain't workin)

A quick check shows that Red Hawk was actually adding the confirmed group status.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:46, 11 September 2009 (BST)


You appear to have recreated this page. May I ask why you are creating a page in the designated wiki space of a defunct group? Perhaps you are not aware that one of the group leaders request deletion of this page, are you intending to go against these wishes? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 17:03, 12 September 2009 (BST)

The page also existed as an (unused) category; I was just moving it to the regular namespace since it didn't really seem to be much of a category. That the page was already deleted is a rather strange (and embarrassing) coincidence. I'd like to express my utmost apoligies if you feel I overstepped.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:18, 13 September 2009 (BST)
Don't worry about it, should have been checked by the sysop doing the deleting anyway, they know how I feel about breaking my wiki art. Try using the What links here from now on, it should show whether or not people are using it as a destination. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:34, 13 September 2009 (BST)
I normally do that, but I admit I handled this one rather sloppily. I saw "unused category" and completely forgot to check the links. Again, I'm really sorry for making such an amateur mistake.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:47, 13 September 2009 (BST)
Fixing wiki = good. Stumbling into drama nests = bad, very bad. Pray you can never tell the difference though, it'll give you a headache. :D -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:50, 13 September 2009 (BST)

My group templates...

Okay,.... so I've made a template to encompass the text I want to have on my groups KOS List Pages. I have editable sections on the template. This makes it look as if there are editable sections on each of the pages. But when I click edit, it takes you to the Templates Page, and wants you to edit that section, under the Template space. I don't want to edit my template... I want to edit the page itself. I've tried everything I can think of, and have used the reference pages you gave me. Any other suggestions? -Poodle of doom 17:58, 13 September 2009 (BST)

Remove the headers from the template, and copy paste them onto the page itself. You can't template a section you intend to edit for each page individually. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:07, 13 September 2009 (BST)
You can template sections of your page, but not the whole thing. Fpr instance, the "What is this page?" section (minus the header) could be templated, with the variable {{{Insert Suburb Name Here}}} (I'd settle for something shorter as the variable name; you'd have to write that out everytime you set it). You can template sections of text, code, and images, but when you throw in a whole page with headers, it doesn't really work. Also, as Rooster said, you can't template sections you're going to edit (such as the KOS list), You could template individual sections, or you could copy-paste (ctrl+c and ctrl+v) and tweak the text for each page. Given the amount of variables you're looking at, the latter might be better.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 18:55, 13 September 2009 (BST)
So at this point,.... I'm creating 100 pages worth of stuff still, which was how the whole disagreement started in the first place on my take page. Sounds good though. Now, how do I get the variables to work? That's where my real problem lies..... -Poodle of doom 19:24, 13 September 2009 (BST)
Let's use {{Edits}},
Typewriter.jpg Edits to Date
This user has made approximately {{{1}}} edits as of {{{2}}}.
as an example. As you can see, this template uses short variable names; they don't have to be {{{1}}} and {{{2}}}, they could be {{{lotsaedits}}} and {{{datehere}}}, but simple variable names are generally more efficient and safe. Now, foy filling in the variables:
There are two ways of going about this. You can fill them in the order they appear, like this: {{Edits|42|today}}, which yeilds:
Typewriter.jpg Edits to Date
This user has made approximately 42 edits as of today.
Or you can specify which variable you want the text to represent, like this: {{Edits|2=42|1=today}}, which yeilds:
Typewriter.jpg Edits to Date
This user has made approximately today edits as of 42.
Makes sense?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 20:25, 13 September 2009 (BST)



Hi, not sure if this is the right place for it, but I googled the name of a PK'er (Zomburrito) and read your comment about his activities in Rhodenbank. I just saw him killing my contact in Shuffery Cinema (Earletown). Thought you might be interested. Thanks!--Jovanc 19:48, 29 July 2009 (BST)