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Cyberbob  Talk  09:24, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

We are not really anywhere.

No home for us!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Corpse313 (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

ZOMG secret zombie group! O.O--Orange Talk 15:40, 28 September 2009 (BST)

What the hell is this?

Is Main Page/Archive the original front page? My god it's fugly! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:49, 30 September 2009 (BST)

Not quite ;). Linkthewindow  Talk  12:28, 5 October 2009 (BST)
fugly like yo mama! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:32, 5 October 2009 (BST)
FUGLY LIKE YOUR FACE --Chicago Edd 03:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Unused images

Currently we hover around 45-50 images, literally all of which are ingame screenshots that never got used (I do notice these things), outdated NecroNet scans or images for groups that either never got off the ground or became defunct. Boxy's inclusionist scaremongering is really fucking stupid. Cyberbob  Talk  16:17, 1 October 2009 (BST)

I just read this. Hm. I may be inclined to agree. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:18, 1 October 2009 (BST)
Heh, I wasn't sure whether you spotted my edit to my talk page or not. Good luck convincing the rest of the sheep though. 10 bucks says DDR falls in with the bandwagon too despite agreeing with me on IRC last night. Cyberbob  Talk  16:19, 1 October 2009 (BST)
As a brit I have no idea of value. Im assuming thats like £100? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:20, 1 October 2009 (BST)
Yikes, more like £3 or something. The pound owns. Cyberbob  Talk  16:23, 1 October 2009 (BST)
Eat shit and die. I said 2 weeks and I maintain that. Personal apathy to whether they were deleted after one week doesn't mean I support the change in any way. Don't fall any sort of pressure on me just because your policy/scheduled vote fell down in flames for reasons other than which we both predicted/accepted. I was always going to vote against. Now I won't do it grudgingly. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:43, 2 October 2009 (BST)


Your guide has passed. I've added it to Guides under your sandbox link so feel free to change it whenever you decide to change the page location. I didn't do it myself just in case Starting A New Survivor Group wasn't actually the desired destination. You never know. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:43, 2 October 2009 (BST)

Re: The Wake

Thanks for the condolences, man. Your offer of protecting the pages might actually be a great idea. I'll let you know when it's all finished and we can see what should be protected. Thanks again. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 15:27, 2 October 2009 (BST)

RE: Crusade of a Captain

Yes i'd like to keep it please, just been a bit busy in RL. I'll be updating it next week hopefully. =) Jpanzer 17:28, 4 October 2009 (BST)

Random Bonus Mandem

I was reading DDR's talk page and saw the Random Bonus Man whilst talking about the manhunt.There seems to be a few issues;

What if
  • A character unrelated to the manhunt kills them? Answered.
  • Someone logs into the character, and makes them jump? Answered.
  • Someone logs onto the character to find out where they are? Answered.
  • Someone logs into the account and changes the pass? Not possible.

--RahrahCome join the #party!19:16, 4 October 2009 (BST)

You can't change passwords in urbandead. I'm pretty sure.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:43, 4 October 2009 (BST)
That's true. Silly me. And thanks for the reply Ross. It's pretty much summed up my queries. When is the next hunt scheduled for? --RahrahCome join the #party!20:25, 4 October 2009 (BST)


Are the links in here (User:Rosslessness/Random Rambling/Sandbox38) all arks of orphaned pages, or a list of orphans you intend on putting somewhere? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 11:55, 5 October 2009 (BST)

Yeah, ok. I might help out sometime when I get back from hols. Until then, good luck. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:25, 5 October 2009 (BST)

Newby Squad

Is a page with potential . --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:34, 6 October 2009 (BST)

as is Tricell Pharmaceutical Company, Sisters of Mercy, Dakerstown Militia and The Untouchables --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:23, 7 October 2009 (BST)


Well, I'm currently juggling ideas on what to do. Should we continue the current round, or start the round again, or even start a new version of Lexicon altogether? --RahrahCome join the #party!17:10, 8 October 2009 (BST)

How do you set up a Lexicon? Heh. Also, how would you spread the word about it? --RahrahCome join the #party!17:54, 8 October 2009 (BST)
How many people play in a round? Should I put that as a note on the page? --RahrahCome join the #party!18:12, 11 October 2009 (BST)

The Lexicon is starting on Monday the 19th. You are a confirmed user. --RahrahCome join the #party!07:45, 13 October 2009 (BST)

Sure, that's fine. Just write up the article and link to it in /ABC. :) --RahrahCome join the #party!20:00, 13 October 2009 (BST)

I have time to waste, got any menial admin tasks? --RahrahCome join the #party!18:27, 14 October 2009 (BST)

See Lexicon:Main Page, go to the part where it says "Progression of the game".

Basically, once all the articles are finished, you cite a phrase from someone's article that isn't your own. These are phantoms and the old rules apply to them. No writing your phantoms or phantoms about your article. (You are, however, allowed to write an article in round three, if that word/phrase has been cited from the citation of your round 1 article. But not directly from your article.)

Do you get it now, or does it make no sense whatsoever? --RahrahCome join the #party!20:23, 22 October 2009 (BST)

You don't need to make a reference to any other round one articles other than the one the phrase you're writing about is from. So if you choose to write the article "Deathly Gaze" from "Apathy", you would just have to write "Apathy" at the bottom in the "References" section. (See this for an example of a references section.) --RahrahCome join the #party!20:37, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Put my reply on my talk page. Just a heads up in case you didn't realise. Silly me. --RahrahCome join the #party!22:28, 23 October 2009 (BST)

I'ma try and contact Adward on IRC, and i'll leave reminders on Brainguard and Adwards talk pages. --RahrahCome join the #party!23:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, yes they will. I may well just make a help page for all the Lexicon stuff, because it's all scattered about. I'll get back to you in an hour or so. --RahrahCome join the #party!18:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Help page. That still needs to be finished but first we need to get those non-articles done! If you could write one, i'd be ever so grateful. --RahrahCome join the #party!19:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


Why so slow?--LAZURMAN IV 15:49, 9 October 2009 (BST)

You seem to be doing quite a good job so far, template, vandal banning etc. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:52, 9 October 2009 (BST)

La Révolution

Why isn't it showing up as unorphaned? I thought even ghosts would show that. Congrats on cleaning up, btw.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:25, 11 October 2009 (BST)

Typical ghost behaviour, I'm afraid. The Revolution page you see on the Orphaned list is a totally different page to the one you've linked too in the header- The Wiki software prevents us from manipulating the former in any such way, it just redirects us to La Révolution no matter what. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 17:50, 11 October 2009 (BST)

And Ross, were you being sarcastic regarding power to the common user on A/M? I'm finding things hard to decipher this time of night. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 17:50, 11 October 2009 (BST)

Orphans are back

Orphans like United resistance have begun springing up. I've dealt with them for now, but just a heads up.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:48, 15 October 2009 (BST)

Unfortunately they are going to be part of the everyday running of the wiki from now on, and since they are such a bitch to deal with, it's best to do it in a large, sweeping, purge manoeuvre. Not as large as the one Ross had to deal with though :( --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:06, 16 October 2009 (BST)
Yeah, but where are the ones from 2008 coming from? Surely they were linked by Ross before?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:14, 16 October 2009 (BST)
They would have been completely independent of the past orphans purge. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:57, 16 October 2009 (BST)
Somewhere in the wiki the page it was linked to was probably moved or wiped. Happens. We can look at the lsit every month or so. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:43, 17 October 2009 (BST)
There's a link on my talk page which I keep clicking when I'm bored, so that's kind of working out. :D--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:48, 17 October 2009 (BST)


If you don't stop being all active and useful, I'm going to be forced to put you up for promotion again. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:32, 17 October 2009 (BST)


k. hi.-- SA 14:35, 18 October 2009 (BST)

Also, from now on you're not allowed to request a demotion. You can only idle out.-- SA 14:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Erotic Sleep Patterns

I'd like to see how that turns out. Thanks for the compliment as well.

As for the doctor, he might make a return. It all depends if the vamp.. err, zombies get to him first.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:20, 20 October 2009 (BST)


dun. -- Adward  21:23, 21 October 2009 (BST)

Signing Posts

I'd like your opinion on something. What do you think about making image:sign.png redirect to something like Help:Contents#Posting_in_talk_pages? I'm thinking it could be helpful when trying to get new users to sign their posts.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 22:07, 22 October 2009 (BST)

I agree with the above Giles' idea.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)


Could I ask you why it is that you did this? I couldn't figure it out. -Poodle of doom 23:43, 23 October 2009 (BST)

The text at the top is not really very readable before his edit. At least, I'd assume thats why. --RahrahCome join the #party!23:47, 23 October 2009 (BST)
The text was no more readable after their than prior. I am, however, using a widescreen monitor. Perhaps that makes a difference? -Poodle of doom 02:16, 24 October 2009 (BST)
Indeed. Believe it or not, there are lots of people who still run at 1024x768 or 800x600 resolutions. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 03:14, 24 October 2009 (BST)
I see. I can revert it then. Thanks. -Poodle of doom 04:08, 24 October 2009 (BST)

I bet...

... survivor-recovery-from-instant-death-all-across-Malton involves lots and lots of new Scientist characters and possibly some DEM zergers or something. No, but really, how do you think it'd happen? --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 21:34, 27 October 2009 (BST)

For a start, reviving bodies. Thats, (Checks stats page) 1619 people who can stand up straight way. Now discounting pk'ers and combat revivers lets say 1000.

Then you've got idled characters, most long term players have them. I can unidle 2 chatacters stocked with needles tomorrow (A throwback from The Dead You never know when a mega horde Will sweep through. Lets say 200.

Then you've got the REALLY organised revival groups. Personally speaking I know M.E.R.C.Y. not only regularly perform revives, but have allies throughout Northern Vinetown that could probably revive themlseves completely within a few days. In this case alone thats 50 survivors.

So lets say 1250 Survivors, before new characters, are up and about on day 1. Judging the reaction to a major event, lets say they all revive one person. And half of them die afterwards. Thats about 1800 by day 2.

In the meantime zombies will probably go mental, ransack most malls and half the city. Survivors will probably congregate in the North East and south west, and abandon everything else for a few weeks.

Borehamwood would take a bit longer. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:48, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


Thanks, I appreciate you telling me about the policy re: the Burn Towers comment. I still felt that I probably should let it stand since apparently it was voted into "humorous locations". I really actually struggled with that-that is how offensive I found it-so maybe I need to lighten up since it is only a game. Still, people who understand that event know better and I felt I owed it to those that do not understand it to at least express some of my disbelief that someone could be that callous.

So regardless, I appreciate you informing me of the correct policy. Thanks again!--Belisarius17 18:50, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


are you still in a warehouse? --~~~~ [talk] 20:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Which one? --  AHLGTG 23:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, which one? --Sophie ◆◆◆ CAPD 23:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
should i believe you're not lying? :P --~~~~ [talk] 06:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
I was. Now i'm near the BB House. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

are you still in a warehouse? :) --~~~~ [talk] 21:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

i dig

After this lexicon garbage, let's get into that manhunt. the REAL MAN's game!!! >=D --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


Any need for User:Rosslessness/Academy to be in the recruitment category? -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:10 31 October 2009 (BST)

Thanks -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:23 31 October 2009 (BST)
One day this wiki will be finished. Which reminds me. I really should start giving these back to their owners. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
OMG, so much trash. Perhaps we should nuke it from orbit... it's the only way to be sure :) -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:31 31 October 2009 (BST)
They mostly create them at night. Mostly. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


Gah! I am terribly sorry; I have been somewhat busy the past few days and never got around to answering your question. If given sysop, I would most often use it to monitor A/SD. Due to time differences (I live in the western US), I feel I would be able to rapidly respond to deletion, protection, and/or move requests filed in the less trafficked, "early" hours of the day, between midnight to four o'clock GMT. If necessary I would rule in on vandalism, but my contributions in that section would be quick and by the book (it also would save time with that UGGS bot that likes to resurface nearly every time I am working on demerging locations). In essence I would continue mostly along my current lines as janitor, but also delve into the more administrative parts of that task and ideally remove some of the red tape.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 02:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Can't remember

But are promotion bids scheduled protections?-- SA 20:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm almost certain that they are.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:45, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Admin archives, moron =D --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 23:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey, can't fault me for being careful about it right? I can't go bungling around for a bit and all, you know? :c -- SA 03:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
We should know what teh roolz are already, noob. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm just glad he's never been a crat. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm just glad ross never got a demotion.-- SA 14:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah, the sweet embrace of irony. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah, the sweet embrace of....something....yeah. I got nothing still.-- SA 19:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

EVIL Discussion

So, I hear you are keeping an eye on our KOS List. Just a few questions for you then. I know our group has had a big impact on a great many people thus far,... and that Penny Heights is still talking about us a month after we've left. I noticed that there are several individuals looking at our pages, watching to see if their names appear on any. What inspired you to watch our pages? And how did you come to find them? You stated that you thought they were ambitious; how so? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be. 19:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I think so. Thank's for the response. I appreciate it. Say, are you in a group at all? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be. 13:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps BSLS would be interested in helping us with a little mission we have going on. They're a survivor group, yes? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be. 00:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Really? Are we so big of a blip on the radar that everyone knows what's going on? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be. 01:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Needs Deletion Please

Not sure where to go for this exactly, but seeing as you categorized the image you would be able to get a image deleted. I copied it and then found out it was copy written. Do not wish to break any laws for a amazing image. The image in question is [[Image:Green Zombie.png]] Matt Aries 07:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. And damnit, I was going to use that image myself >=[ --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:22, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Sigh ... thanks. Fantastic image too. Oh well too bad. Matt Aries 07:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. You have an array of awesome gifs on your page and that was one of the ones I wanted to steal. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


I'm working on a template for a friend's little side project here on the wiki. I've got most of the coding down, but now I've run into a bit of a snag. When I type in the name inside of the template brackets, how would I do it for someone who wants it on an alt's wiki page? I would want it on User:Dark Blue Helmet/Kalei 's page, but I can't somehow get it that it only says Kalei when the template appears and links to my page. --DBHT 19:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It's still showing up as this
Largercismiley.gif The Grand Church of Criminally Insane
Kalei is generally confused by The Grand Church of Criminally Insane
--DBHT 19:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Try changing the second {{{1}}} to {{{2}}}. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 19:32, 16 November 2009 (BST)
That worked! Thanks guys. --DBHT 19:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


...? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Here, I expect your approval of my bid after I make you 'crat. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Found it already, but thanks. I will of course make any such decisions entirley based of community opinion, as those before me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Tell me that was sarcasm, because if it was, it was the greatest sarcasm in the history of this wiki (FACT). -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
</sarcasm>--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Have my children? <3 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Not really hungry. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:28, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you use {{User:Suicidalangel/Gunspam}} instead. Gimr might come back and haunt us otherwise.-- SA 03:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Grim come back? HA! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Try emailing him about the wiki. It's hilarious. :D -- SA 03:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Fuck, you've done it? I thought I would be the first one! Fuck! I always wanted to be like "Hey Mr. Grim do you know me? I'm the troll guy who used to roll with alim when you were crat. I just wanted you to know that I'm crat now and I'm, like, just wondering, why don't you come back and stuff?" say, being incredibly condescending and dim and see how he reacts. What did he say to you? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC):::
I believe via skype some users have even talked to him. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeha I knew that, but they dare not mention the wiki, under (and I apparently quote) death by pole-up-arse. or something like that. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:48, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I imagine he sounds a bit like the wizard of oz, hiding behind a curtain and booming into a microphone. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

First email! D:

So....Hey grimchy! Look, I know you hate this place with the burning fire of a thousand white hot death suns of death, so I'm not asking you to come back or anything.

What I am asking you is as a current 'crat of this damned place (and it still is pretty fucked up), what were some of the changes you were going to try and make before your very shitty misconduct case happened? I'm asking this because recently I've wrote up a complete over haul of many of the wiki's systems (trying to find it now, misplaced the damn thing. Oh well, it's not like the users will actually do what's best for the place anyway), and I was wondering if you could give me some more ideas to correlate with mine. You always had some pretty good ideas and standards, even if you were abrasive.

Also, by the way, your ban is up.

First response!:

1: I do not know how or why the wiki points to my main email, since I left it pointing at this one that I never ever check, precisely so I did not have to suffer the indignity of reading emails from ignoramii such as yourself.

2: I permanently banned myself. I don't know what you brain dead dipshits did in my absence and I don't care. If you all felt, as it seems you did, the need to be self important and perform some stupid little parade before the masses and convict me on charges of whatever, then I truly do pity you, because it is pathetic.

3: Anything I wrote I subsequently destroyed in the minutes after I departed. I have no desire to sit about trying to recall them so you can make a good call a year too late. I have better things to do than pander to the whims of a pitiful little twit who was all to eager to brainlessly bandwagon without ever asking why.

You are so slow on the uptake it would almost be funny if it weren't so absolutely and crushingly idiotic. The world of corrupt clique politics suddenly doesn't work for you, so NOW you want to fix things. If you wanted to fix them, you would have started when the problem first became obvious instead of waiting until you had your dick in a vice. And you were most definitely around then, so don't give me any crap about not seeing it or not being around for it.

Do not attempt to contact me again. When I left, I bloody well meant it. I have not so much as taken a peek since I left. Do not attempt to drag me back into that fetid shithole, even in a roundabout way such as this. I want nothing to do with its inept fucking politics or stupid fucking rules any longer. That's the reason I left. Why I was planning to leave ages before anything was brought against me and I was cliqued out on the most absurd grounds.

Have fun in the cesspit you helped dig along with everyone else. I hope you drown in it you chickenshit scumbag.

Mah email back!:

Okay, after this email I won't be contacting you. Just felt the need to point out a few things.

1. I didn't bandwagon against you. Hell, I wasn't even entirely active during your case. By the time they started trying to demote you and shit, I was missing for a week or two. Hell, I still don't agree with what they did. You allegations against me are wrong in those departments.

2. I've tried to fix things many times (hint: it was during the time you were inactive). I just never had the "status" or "trustability" as the "almighty mods" of the time. Time and time again the masses (which we obviously agree they don't know shit and sheep to whatever goal seems more convenient) shot everything down on flimsy bases. The same thing is probably going to happen on the policies I put up for voting later, hell might even happen on my re-evaluation bid tomorrow.

3. It's kind of hard to have fun in a place as fucked up as the wiki. To be truthful, I'm past beginning to feel the same way you do about the place. That overhaul that I told you about is pretty much a last ditch effort to save the place, because your method has been proven not to work. If I can't get it to go through, or even some of the more important parts, then I'm just going to leave.

On another note, although you said I shouldn't be contacting you any more, and I did say I would stop up there, do you use linux/fedora by any chance?


I am forced to wonder if you have some form of congenital defect when it comes to the practices of both reading in general and following instructions. Perhaps your head would be better employed as radiation shielding on a nuclear reactor, because obviously nothing seems to penetrate it.

I specifically asked you not to respond. I did this because I do not care about your pathetic little politics. I took a great deal of time to fine tune that message to be as offensive as possible while remaining brief so you would not feel tempted to message me back and still understand how little I care about your pathetic community. Unfortunately you have become even more stupid since I last saw you, and thus I failed.

First of all, you have never tried to fix things. At least you never did when I was around. You and your little clique went around being little prats generally causing disruption and acting like a pack of five year olds. You were not by any means the worst offenders out there, but you loved to bandwagon anything that seemed even remotely entertaining and many things that simply were not. You were pests. If you had genuinely wanted to fix things you would have stood up and actually voiced your support when someone else tried to fix it, but you kept your head down, as did everyone else who supported me back in those days. Saving your own skin, allowing me to be dismissed as some renegade with "dumb" ideas, a "sore sphincter", and no support at all. Your desire to remain silent hindered things immensely. I tried to fix things, so no blame for the current level of catastrophe there can be laid at my feet. It lands squarely at you and yours, and since I am gone forever I have no obligation to throw you a lifeline as you suddenly realise that you are up to your neck in your own effluence.

Your little note, adding that I was no longer banned was rich. Don't think I didn't see it for what it was. You were trying ton get me to come back and bail you out. Well tough shit. Nothing could make me happier than watching that place go up in flames. Of course, I likely wouldn't find out for weeks. I still know next to nothing of anything that has happened since I left.

You never tried to fix things. At least you never did it before I left. You were just one of quite a few people who could have stood up and done the right thing but didn't want to stand up and do anything about it, because sometimes, sometimes, the problems in the system worked in your favour. The bandwagoning allegation was general, not a simple case of moaning about victimisation. You have always been quick to jump on a bandwagon that AHLG and 73, or other friends of yours were on.

So to sum up:

1: I am not coming back, no matter what tricks you try to use to bait me, though... 2: I am sorely, sorely tempted to use what influence I have left against you out of spite because... 3: When someone hostile tells you not to talk to them, shut the fuck up and walk away. 4: I feel no sympathy for you or your position, and have no desire to see the wiki become a functioning entity anymore. So you can take your high and mighty aspirations and stick them where the sun doesn't shine. 5: I can only hope that my "Fuck you" allows you to experience even a sliver of what it feels like to be completely abandoned by those who share your professed opinion in a time of need.

If you are going to leave the wiki, then do it. Don't sit around saying you are going to do it to me, because I don't give a shit.

If you respond to this, I will have to get very creative in what form of retribution I will take. No means no. I hope that one day this concept penetrates your skull to the near vacuum within.

So conceited. It was very hard to act as if I was serious, even from the start. I'm not much of a troll anymore. :( -- SA 18:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

After all that time, still so bitter and serious about his virtual failed career. A clear case of some narcissism there too. "lol, u mad" should have been your final response. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
OMG, he has the best insults ever. I wish Iscariot was more like that. --  AHLGTG 18:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Uhhhmmm... uhhmmmm.... *something* Oh, get Cyberbob to email him too! --  AHLGTG 19:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
If you are going to start the apocalypse, can we do it somewhere other than my talk page? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
You're the substitute for 73 right now. Get used to it!-- SA 09:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Dear Grim

You'll be back

Love DDR, 2 cool clique extroadinaire, immature troll, cyberbob flame-warrer, bandwagon voter and newest wiki crat.


--DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Signiture Cleanup

I don't know if you'll be able to help me out or not, but I was looking to clean up my signiture a little bit. I noticed when you sign your post, it ends up being coded as: {{User:Rosslessness/Sig}}. When I sign mine, it ends up coming out as: [[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of Doom]]'''<sup>[[Project Mentor|<span style="color: CornflowerBlue">'''M!'''</span style>]]</sup> <sup>[[Image:Hazard.jpg|12px|Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.]]</sup>. This, as you can see, adds a couple lines of coding, and can make editing quite messy. I was wondering how I get it to come out like yours.... do you know? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be. 23:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

If you go to your preferences, your nickname should be set to resemble the following: {{SUBST:Nosubst|User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}}. Note the "Nosubst|". It keeps your signature from being substituted into the page, and instead just inserts it dynamically as needed, like what you see with many other people's signatures. Aichon 00:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I know that sorting through a shit ton of code can be annoying, espically when half of it is unneccessary. --Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be. 02:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I suppose I should have pointed you to Template:Nosubst instead. Those instructions are better. Note that you don't actually put the SUBST in the Nickname yourself. It does it for you automatically. Aichon 02:09, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Or he can continue to contribute to the lessening of the server load by using a non-templated signature.-- SA 02:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

So which is worse, my current signiture, or the one I had before? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 03:38, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

It looks the same, just less coding in the edit box.-- SA 03:44, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Which seems to be my original arguement. Alas,... I'm confused. What's your point? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 03:48, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I have no point. What ever could you be talking about?-- SA 04:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


Rosslessness.jpg "Yeahhhhhh!"
Ross agrees with Iscariot, because he's always right and might have a princess in a metal bikini around here somewhere...

-- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 23:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

That picture is too pretty to be ross.-- SA 03:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Kind of. I have a nice article of it on a flash drive somewhere. I think I left it at the missus' house though. :/ If you want to take it and I'll just write a new article for another one that's fine by me.-- SA 00:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Frankly. Amazing. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:46, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Shut up, I know I keep losing stuff. :/ -- SA 20:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Rather Persistant, This One

Here. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 00:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


for the second last paragraph, [1]

*24 hour ban. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me

You commented on my talk page. I am new here and I think that guy is very creepy. First of all, doesn't he have anything better to do than stalk me? Second of all, if you look at my page its under construction and just because i'm not using an image right now, I could be using it this afternoon or tomorrow or next week if I get a new recruit to my clan. Where do I make a complaint about this creepy guy?--Taco2 14:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

A/A, where you request for him to not be able to talk to you. Beyond that there isn't anything that can be done considering he is just (pedantically) helping out. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Borehamwood Suburb Categories

They're pretty much unused. If I take care of all of the red tape, and empty the categories, do I have permission to send it to SD? Most of them only have one or two links anyways; the only link is the suburb page of the same name. --Haliman - Talk 17:11, 28 November 2009 (UTC)


Sorry for calling you a sheep Ross,


--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 14:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

i have a questoin why do people have outside resource points? it wastes ap and you have to find an entry point. some people use churchess like the YRC but the can be ruined so why not use junkyards?Not a TRP or good safehoue--Mathwhiz 05:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)Mathwhiz--Mathwhiz 05:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Lots of reasons. In fact, junkyards make one of the best safehouses for the simple fact that they cannot be ruined. You also have a small chance of finding all kinds of items, so it's a great place for young survivors without Free Running to find things as well. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I assume you mean revive points? Churches and Junkyards are used as they don't have doors, so even zombies without memories of life (as in most low level survivors) can still enter. Internal revive points also guarantee you an entry point. If you stand up inside a building, you can just freerun next door, rather than wasting time and AP finding an entry point. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Promotion

Thanks, chief. I'll try not to disappoint. Yeah, I'm familiar with everything. Providing the weekend's not too hectic I should be able to get launched into those location images and some of the merged location pages. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 18:39, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

History of Malton

Hey, you're a Malton history buff right? Is there a specific date that is considered to be the beginning of the Malton quarantine? Just curious.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 14:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

July 3rd, 2005. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 14:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Iscariot's specialist subject. I'm much more up to date on the t'other cities. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Table linkage?

I'm trying to work some wiki magic on the table here, which is completely stolen from your table at the top of this page. :) Is there any way in which I could link the squares to their respective suburbs without adding in spaces or text? I've tried, but adding in a non-breaking space ruins the look of the map. I think it's possible by adding the link as a characteristic of the square, but I have no idea of what mark-up to use to achieve that. --RahrahCome join the #party!10:14, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Pass. I'd go straight to rooster on this one. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Coincidentally enough, I was trying to solve this just yesterday and came up with a solution that should work fine for your purposes. I've put up an example in my sandbox. Check the code that I used for Dakerstown, since it's what you need. I didn't do it for all 100 suburbs though, since I'm heading to bed in a sec, but you should have enough to get by. Make sure you don't miss the "padding" code near the start of the line. Aichon 11:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Amazing. Thanks Aich, I look forward to your sysop bid in january. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Can't tell if you're serious or not (like I said, bed soon), so I'll just point you here for now. Thanks though. Aichon 11:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Mail Order Mail

Having only just remembered Mail Order Mail, my plan was to set it up for March. :) Like I think I mentioned before, I just don't have the experience in survivour-y duties to possibly think about leading a group. But in March, my destined character will be heading by Vinetown, carrying the MOM insignia. (What's irritating is that I spelt my characters name wrong. >_>) --RahrahCome join the #party!18:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. I'll rake in some people, then we can ask around to see where we should go on from then. --RahrahCome join the #party!18:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


I found the donkey. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I hadn't even realised. Wierd. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Ha! When there's no more room in hell, the Donkeys shall walk the earth.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Ping! Surburb Groups

Was hoping I could get some input from you here. Don't feel compelled to address all the points, by any means; just tackle the ones you're comfortable with. And yep, I know you're banned for a few more days, but sometime after you come back, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Aichon 06:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Li'l help?

I'm trying to figure out how to create new terrains for that ridiculous and awful city I'm working on. I've got the color figured out for the first one (found the web colors page)and figured out that to create it I need to create some sort of template. That's all well and good, but I have no idea how to create a template for a single type of terrain, since I'm pretty much compooter eeliderit. I was wondering if you could set me up with some sort of basic format I could cut and paste, then adjust to suit my preferences (which is how I do everything anyways... I'm a complete code stealer). I'd also like to know how to create borders for the terrain like junkyards, fire stations and police departments have. As a basic example, I'd like to create a beach terrain using the background color FF FF E0 (I think that's the shade of yellow I picked out). It'd look better than just using a cornfield and changing the name. This is what happens when you ask if I need help with formatting. Thanks! Oh, and while I'm here... the guys wanted me to find out if there are any Borehamwood buildings besides factories that survivors get their generators at. Care to clear that one up for us? :)--Necrofeelinya 01:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Wow. That was amazingly simple. I had a feeling it would be an embarrassingly easy thing to do. Thanks for the help!  :) But of course, since you answered one question, I now have to pelt you with more. For example, using the 100 x 100 square grid, should I assume a border space on the outside, or put one within those limits, effectively turning it into a 98 x 98 grid the way Borehamwood is, and if it's the latter, might I substitute other impassable terrain such as deep water for border squares or should I just put those within the border? Oh, by the way, I also changed the color of that beach... the first one just didn't look great next to existing water squares. On to new terrains and buildings!--Necrofeelinya 01:56, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

You unbanned yet blud?

I saw your vote on TtFW. I added you to the new Lexicon, as per your email. :) --RahrahCome join the #party! 17:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Great Suburb Massacre 2010

You get this message because you've expressed interest in contributing to the upcoming GSM. I have created a page in my user space so we can discuss the project and iron out any potential problems. Feel free to add any thoughts/questions/queries/improvements/random insults. Post directly on the main page, I've had the talk page protected to allow work to actually get done. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 07:47, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey Rosslessness

thank you for the welcome in the Urban Dead wiki! I read the wiki netiquette you post and I'm trying to get my buildings check in the right way. I have to improve the way to modify the pages (and my English too :)) --Megane Potter 18:42, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Mr. Snuffleupagus

A vampire snuffleupagus, that is! {opens mouth wide with fangs showing, eyes turn red} RARRRGGHH! --Vampire Snuffleupagus 03:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism? I tried to report it, and hope I did it right.... Please Let Me Know.... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 03:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you think this has any chance whatsoever of working?


I was hoping to use the timestamp variable such that when you visit a page, it would load a different image depending on the hour you visited / loaded the page (I have a gallery of twenty-four images). But it seems to only update if the page is saved again. Am I like completely hosed and at the mercy of the harsh, harsh mistress that is the UD wiki? Any thoughts? -MHSstaff 04:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I was wrong. I think it works. Or at least my main user page and the Front's poster of zen update semidaily. It is not perfect since caching prevents it changing on the hour, but it looks like it will update frequently enough to be useful. -MHSstaff 20:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Not on the forums...not yet...I may get back to you though about the coding in Wiki.

I dont need coding/wiki info yet. But I request you update the map on the wiki. Mockridge Heights is dying. You said you saw my post on MERCY, wasnt sure which one though so ya update needed.

Thanks though! Supa

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