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Fuck you Yon! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:43, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

First guest.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
I can't think of anything clever to say. We're coming to get you, Barbara 22:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Duck Hunt

Do you still plan on running the Duck Hunt event? If I run an event starting the second week of February, will it interfere with your plans? ~Vsig.png 17:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Manhunt Interview

So the interview is located here and here. Feel free to change how you want your name to be represented or anything else in your answers. I went with Ross because I don't like typing a lot. I might change the order around a little and how much is on the main page, and how much spills over, but for the most part it will look like this. Thanks again for all your help.

I stole your Manhunt Marathon image because it seems to be the current "big thing" in Manhunt. If you would like us to promote a different Manhunt event, please feel free to change the image or the text underneath the image. Or if you don't, we can erase it as well. -MHSstaff 18:57, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Mudkip Hunt

There's a week left, so this is to remind you to meet at The Roger Arms, Penny Heights if alive, or Junkyard 98,76 if dead, Penny Heights, 3 days before the competition begins. DJSpinbad will be at that location to confirm you are there when the competition begins. Those who do not arrive will be disqualified. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I seem to have lost track of your character. Remember, you gotta be at one of the two appointed locations when the green light is given. No head starts. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:15, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Dezonus A/PM

Hey. I'm not willing to vouch for Dezonus' candidacy, I don't think he's ready, and I think the feedback from the community reflects this. What are your thoughts? -- LEMON #1 00:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Bar Fight!

Round One is now over, and you have correctly placed a bet on the victor. Please claim your prize here. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Double or quits! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
If you want a rematch, I'll get to talking with Zensaga about it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Zen doesn't want a rematch. So a rematch is currently out of the question. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
No, round 2. Whoever that's between --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Yea...I just noticed the timestamp of your bet for Round Two...I struck it since you missed the deadline. By about 15 hours. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Then round 3! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


Oh,... I have to tell him about the arbitration for it to be taken seriously? -EstacadoTalk 23:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party. Show me anywhere you tried to reach accord on this. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Dammit, I told that bitch to Prepare!!! -EstacadoTalk 23:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Uh huh. And for what? We're coming to get you, Barbara 00:29, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
The astonishing truth!!! -EstacadoTalk 00:22, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Where the hell are you? I expect a response to everthing I say, wether it's a dignified one or not,... or if bananaz rain errands supreme pizza during discourse augmentaion... and bullocks! -EstacadoTalk 01:05, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

There's something called patience. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:07, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
There's also something called a condom, but apparently not everyone uses them,... ie, cornhole. -EstacadoTalk 03:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I get mine from the pope. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
He's cool with them now. He just now also needs to be cool with everything else the civilised world has already come to terms with. We're coming to get you, Barbara 18:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
That would be an ecumenical matter. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes. We're coming to get you, Barbara 18:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
No. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:01, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought that was only on nights and weekends,.... -EstacadoTalk 15:23, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Tough Luck

Guess this makes me the last UDwiki guy left around? Who got you?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Dazed. I did try and warn you. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, Ross, I'm on their team now. :P Anything to stop the Union. Timstro's dead, we might stand a chance.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Thats the trouble with being unaffiliated. Twice the number of enemies. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


I seem to have pass you in terms of survival times. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I was doing this. A lot of survivors died as a result. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:15, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello again

Hey there Ross. Long time, no see. How've you been doing?

Are you still active or interested in the Unemplementia map?

--TheBardofAwesome 01:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello? --TheBardofAwesome 10:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


Instead of writing here first, you should check your PMs on OBR/404's forums! But since you did write something, I may as well throw in "Rosslessness" as a future potential character. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Just read it. Yeah, sure, whatever. As long as there's no pictures discovered of me riding bicycles. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:30, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Was just looking around

I was doing some reading, and it looks like the Battle of Krinks was due for un-protecting awhile ago. Mind you, I'm mentioning it here, rather than on A/PT, because I'm not filing a formal request to have it un-protected. I'm merely pointing out that it was due as a courtesy of sorts, but if I had my druthers, I'd just leave it protected indefinitely since I'd rather not see that can of worms reopened again. Aichon 04:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Duck Hunting Zerging Allegations

Resensitized have bought up zerging issues with your ducks. Why don't you have a chat with them? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:47, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

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--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


"actually this is my roomate u banned his other account nexus thinking it was me please dont ban him he is not me"

Why warn your roommate on the wiki if you could just talk to them. And why on christmas eve eve are you both still using the same IP groupings? Surely people go home?

--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


what is your assessment on yonnua's A/RE bid? -- LEMON #1 23:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Always forget the week only stuff. Let me hve a few hours. Im going to re read everything. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm happy to re-evaluate him. I'm willing to assume the brain explosions he's had in the last few days were just a product of the stress of exams, he said he'd have some around this time, same shit happened to me on wiki all the time. As for the checkuser, he usually has the good sense to back down when he's told en masse that he's wrong, like the incident when he complained about you. I don't think the community wants him out just yet, so I'm for cycling it as successful for sure. You can do it if you like, I might when I get home. -- LEMON #1 00:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Given it a cycle with a hopefully decent analysis -- LEMON #1 14:50, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I think... need a cup of joe since you did it not once, but twice. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Voting on new 404 applicants

Hey there, hope everything has been alright with you! Just a quick message to ask if you could pop over to the forum, and vote either yes or no on two of our latest applicants, Edmund Garrison/Austin and Cassandra Crunch/JaneZoe. Alternatively, you can message me back here with your votes and I'll put them up for you. Thank you! --BOSCH 17:31, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Could I ask you to vote on Cassandra Crunch's application too please? Sorry to be a pain, just sticking to our protocol for entry :) --BOSCH 18:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Axe Hack's Manhunt 4

I'm trying to pencil in a date for AHMH4, but I don't want it to conflict with any of your upcoming events. Any clue when your other events will take place? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 06:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, while I'm at this, voice your opinion on some alterations to the playing area. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 06:14, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


Hey I got your message on the forum but apparently I do not have the privileges to sent PMs. What a crock. Anyway, I agree with your statements. So is there any way you can send a message on my behalf to get me unblocked from sending PMs or possibly point me to an off forum person so I can request it myself? Thanks, man. ~Vsig.png 17:43, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually nevermind I see that I have to reach 10 edits before I'm trusted to the point of replying to PMs. Time to spam it up, I guess. ~Vsig.png 17:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Post on the warhammer forum. Its traditional. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Anime made magic happen but I posted on warhammer anyway :D ~Vsig.png 19:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Coercion is the new black...

Zrun.jpg Zelse.jpg Zfinal.jpg

Zombie Weather Girl will cause bad things to happen.
BAD THINGS.-MHSstaff 20:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! -MHSstaff 21:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick note

I think you might have made the wrong call when you last wiped Zakarus's page. He'd made a user account when he made that edit. Just on the last one though, the one's before that were fine. =p Just to give you the heads up. -- Cheese 20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm indeed ...

Luckily for me the VGA zerg army is more an open and shut case of zerging ... just on a ridiculous scale. ~Vsig.png 19:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

An Fak?

What? Fak, fak is both singular and begins with a Fer sound (as in rhymes with flak.) as opposed to an ef sound. Unless he's calling it an F.A.K. it should be A fak. Although the an H. thing is probably correct. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

"Acronyms read letter-by-letter in most of the world."[1] I pronounce it 'fack' as well, but it is an acronym, and we don't want to leave out the clusless newbs who don't get the 'FAK yourself' joke and think it's just an innocent abbreviation. --VVV RGPBMBCAWS 02:28, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Acronym. FAK. Eff-Ay-Kay. As a one-syllable word, it would be fak, or Fak. H thing is correct if the letter is pronounced aitch, though it's usually pronounced haitch over here. We're coming to get you, Barbara 02:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Only by fools. And no one in the world uses the phrase "F.A.K." Its a Fak. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I call them Eff-Ay-Kays occasionally, actually... Aichon 02:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Same number of syllables as the words they stand for, but less well known. Why? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Quicker to type. I don't dictate my posts, after all. Tongue :P We're coming to get you, Barbara 02:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Err, I was just offering a pronunciation for how I refer to the abbreviation "FAK". Sometimes it's as eff-ay-kay, and sometimes it's as fack. I don't ever actually spell it out like that unless I'm describing the pronunciation. Aichon 03:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I was hoping I could get your help

I'm wanting to give a try at restarting the BBC. But I have a problem, I can't find where we placed the newsbox template we made. I'm hoping that it's not protected, but can you help me find {{BBCNewsBox}}. Thanks in advance. --Les Nessman 01:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:BBCNewsBox. You've maybe forgotten to add the "Template:" bit before its name, it's a common enough mistake. We're coming to get you, Barbara 01:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Yep, that was my problem. Been away from the wiki long enough that I forgot all of the tricks. Thanks for the help Misanthropy. --Les Nessman 03:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


get ready for a toughie with cheese :( -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 02:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


Chilean Blob.jpg In-voluntary Offerings
Thanks to Mits, I was offered up to the Chilean Blob.
--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:39, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
YEAHHHH! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


I saw this the list of new characters on the profile database and couldn't resist what may be an idiotic comment: You should have told us you had a long lost brother! xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Nothing to do with me. Worth a scout-off I reckon. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
It's not even a scout...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
If you ask me, it's probably Ross's clumsy little brother whom he never spoke of. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:16, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Random Page Find

I had to take a double take. ~Vsig.png 00:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


Is going well. Not a lot of drama at the moment (not that I miss it). I just noticed that when I was speedy'ing pages that sometimes the deletion comment was filled in and sometimes not. I thought maybe it had something to do with deleting from the page its history page (I'm making sure to check history before each deletion) but that does not seem to be the case. It happens sometimes when deleting normally. Just an oddity, I suppose. ~Vsig.png 20:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

If certain circumstances are fulfilled (e.g. the page is short) then it'll fill it in for you.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Mystery solved. Thanks, Yon. ~Vsig.png 14:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

A hypothetical question...

Yo. Just appealing to your knowledge of all things wiki here. If I were hacking on yet another UD toy, and I wanted some wiki page automatically updated from me own server, would it be okay to create a wiki user who would not actually be a person, but a robot, which would edit some page or pages under its own wiki user space once a day? Hypothetically, like. --Sophie ◆◆◆ CAPD 20:56, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, nothing wrong with that. As long as the bot doesn't go on a rampage! -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:44, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh cheers DDR. Yeah if I were doing something like this, I would be very very careful ^_^ --Sophie ◆◆◆ CAPD 00:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Robots terrify me, but Rooster already makes use of them so they're established as perfectly grand. We're coming to get you, Barbara 12:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, Go mad. Hows the other thing going? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Not good. Been through aliens, ghosts (yes bloody ghosts, fancy a proton pack?) and back to zeds. Meh. Map is running, sort of. I wish I had more time for making shiny things -_- --Sophie ◆◆◆ CAPD 01:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


The game designer is on BRWiki. He left you a message. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Wotan's templar

Have just seen that you have deleted them, probably as part of the vandalism by the suspected Cornhole sockpuppets. However, they are on the stats page. Unless Cornhole has really worked on his alt army, it's maybe someone else? -- Spiderzed 13:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Reading the contents of the page (check recent changes) with its naming of corn specifically I'm fairly confident. Plus his targetting of A/A A/VB, the user pages of users specifically involved in the battle of Krinks, Krinks itself, groups involved in the battle of krinks, his history of zerging, his use of open proxies and my own gut feeling, I'm sure that its very easy for Corn to create ten alts.
Oh. And this is fairly damning.
But keep on poking me. One day I'll abuse my power. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
and these two, Note the obvious similarity? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't mean that it is A/M-worthy - even if it was a misjudgement, the surrounding heap of obvious vandalism and the quick need to undo it would excuse it as wrist-slap stuff.
But interesting findings. Looking forward to Google's next caching of UD profiles to learn who the remainder are... -- Spiderzed 13:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I know spider. For once we've got a fairly accountable bunch of sops, and a fairly good second tier of users, like yourself with good procedural and wiki knowledge. Long may it continue. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


Something different, is there a reason why every promotion category (successful, unsuccessful, unaccepted etc..) has a chronological list except this one?--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 14:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

you mean the template? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
yeah, the "in chronological order" one. Upon further inspection, Unaccepted has a chronological list without the template. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 14:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Well add one then! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I fixed Unaccepted. I wasn't sure, thus why I asked. As for this one, well I can't back out now, but it's going to be fun figuring out the correct time order...--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 14:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
No point. The sub sections list all the individuals, and the main is just an alphabetical list. Who can't work out your third bid came after your second?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, that I can do, but the main one will also be chronological ordered just like the sub cats. I'll probably start with copying the template from Successful bids, since that's the largest one, and then manually check the dates on the other bids and enter them in the template.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 14:47, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
old project of mine, organising all promotions into a table so they could be sortable alphabetical, by date, or by result. Never bothered with it once I realised it probably wasn't worth the effort though. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:47, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh dear. That big one you're making now is gonna get messy :| -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I know, and I'm only halfway. Once I get all the names, I'll make sure to come up with something that looks a bit more appealing though. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 23:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


Probably best not to bother feeding him.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

where's the fun in that? Not voting? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I brought the case, so I think there's an implicit Vandalism, and there's some ambiguity (stupidly) about whether I can or not. Doesn't matter though, because after a couple more sysops turn up, it'll be done anyway.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:54, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Drop the weapon and put your hands on your head!

There's a Hudson Duster member in the Pawn shop on Houston St and Mott St (just keep going east from the Police Station). I'm scared because I'm APed inside it and the guy is Lv23. Save me, ObiRoss Kenolessness. You're my only hope. >_> --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

thadeous oakley

Oh yay, now we get to have this discussion. Here's my piece: community is pretty divided, I am very surprised to note the gnomes being in support of mistergame en masse and the others mostly against, thought it would be a bit more opposite. Like earlier, personally I don't have a problem with promoting thadeous, he's demonstrated to the community the exact type of user he would be as an op and most of the regulars are more than happy with that. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Let me go away and think about this. I have my concerns. As for that other thing you Emailed me about, I have no problem with you pursuing it, although I'm apathetic. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay good. I didn't intend for help, just an opinion on it. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually, out of interest, how do you personally check to see if an IP is a proxy?? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
IP Checker sites. There's also a couple of sites that set up pages and records IP's that are linked with spammers. Google in some cases. Technology is pretty easy. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
O.k. My concern is that Thads contributions to the wiki are wide but shallow. He gets involved with everything, but rarely takes a "leadership" role in creating stuff. His big project of the year appears to be a table listing promotion bids in order. If you compare his bid with say, the last successful bid, the support received is less, the community, is split. There are outstanding concerns. You want to promote him? Maybe. Convince me one way or the other. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm indifferent either way, but I'd like to be assured your views are more a reflection of the communities' say than your personal opinion. As I've said on the bid, I'm personally not exactly convinced he'd make a reliable sysop but the vouches predominantly come from people like me who have seen Thad's whole portfolio from the start, and none of that seems to bother them.
Do I think promoting him under these circumstances is pretty crappy? Personally I think it is a bit. I think there tends to be a lowering of standard by the community, for a user who runs for the second or third time or so, and coming from a person that just did more for his second bid, I'm a bit disappointed by it but now I'm just being a bitch. I've seen users promoted with less support, and rejected with more support. Up to us and I don't mind either way but you have veto power if you feel it's within reason to use it, and unless its in extreme cases, I'll always be more than happy to respect it. As should Thad if he wants to maturely consider the position a possibility in the future. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Just to conclude because I realised I never actually made a decision. Essentially I'm for, but still, the above shit I wrote is very important in explaining my reasoning. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Hell, if it was my opinion I'd just flat out say no! I hate to say it, but some people's votes hold more weight with me than others. I'm swung very strongly be Spiderzeds vote, and much less so by C Whitty. And his answer to my final question about leadership could have well been replaced by a mudkip and been as useful. The sysop community is split, and if it wasn't for a few votes by people I think are amazing wikizens I feel we wouldn't be having this discussion. But anyway. Personally its a no from me, but a fair number of people want to give him a go. Frankly. (And its completely without precedent) I'd love to give him the position and re-evaluate his ass in three months. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
lol. We could always bully him into it. Really though I don't think it's entirely necessary. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Not that it's my place or anything but didn't you guys bitchslap Jerrel down for suggesting a shorter-term/differently-governed op position? We're coming to get you, Barbara 23:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
It's not. and it was probably for him being a retard -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
^This. So, I've raised some points. DDR. Promote or not? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
You can force a re-evaluation through arbies, if he agrees to it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps, but Its not really resolving the issue. I'm personally against the bid, but I feel the community is split, whereas DDR thinks the community wants a yes, but is apathetic about actual promotion. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh yeah, but it's completely beyond me to comment on that. I was merely stating that if you did want to enforce a shorter term (as you considered above), there was a way that you could enforce it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:01, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Arbitration is for dispute resolution, not for establishing contracts... As for the point ross, I still feel the same way about the promotion, the more active and central users of the community are generally the ones saying yes. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 21:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Ok. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

less indents.

So your final verdict? just to confirm. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 21:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm probably being too literal in my opposition, and at the end of the day it probably is my opposition. Hmm. Ok. With central support I'm not going to oppose the promotion, but I'm retaining my general Hmm position. So yeah. Promote as you see fit. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Alrighty. Well I have to rush out now for some mobile phone shit so when I come back in a few hours if nothing's happened by then I'll deal with it. You're free to give a last minute point or veto or discussion etc if you feel its needed -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 00:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


Hello Rosslessness,

I hear all sorts of accusations about the borehamwood survivors and their zombie pets, I guess that the usual smoke and no fire rountine. I think any side that had a TAAK on it will get accused of zerging ;), thats probably the only influence he has had on the game.


--Rapture 20:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

i can't belive you didn't speak up

a serial zerger really? tis a sad sad day. well at least i can still tell him to fuck off and die right? or is that against policy?----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 14:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Telling him to die is.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Its not a threat, its a request. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Probationary Sys-Op

Didn't want to bring that up while the bid discussion still runs, as it could be seen as me mingling with things that are none of my business. But that one got me thinking:

Rosslessness said:
I'd love to give him the position and re-evaluate his ass in three months.
I think some Sys-Op on Probation clause with a shortened tenure could serve a valuable purpose to cover disputed cases as Thad's or Cheese's RE. Rather than to just have the options of "Yes, and now we are stuck with you for 8 friggin' months" or "No, and now bugger off to re-apply in a half year", a "Yes, but you better do well the next three months" could give the crats a middle-ground option and especially help with candidates who promise future activity.
Would of course need some more bells and whistles to avoid abuse like repeated Probationary Sys-Op tenures, but before I put it up on A/PD, I better plug you current crats to see if you think that it would be a worthwhile idea. (DDR is free to chime in here - didn't send him a separate message as I expect him to watch your talk anyway, and to cut down on the risk of the same discussion being led in two separate places at once.) -- Spiderzed 21:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Frankly I think it should be compulsory. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh and you might want to ask the guy who has been crat pretty much permanently over the last few years as well, the wonderful mr box. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
long live the box --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
all hail boxy!----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 03:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
It's an interesting idea... but I would rather limit the powers of "probationary sysops", than to force early reevaluations on them. Perhaps they can get all the buttons, but don't get a say on A/VB and A/M cases? They can still do all the janitorial work of sysops, and if they want to have a say in the drama beds later on (after your suggested 3 months, perhaps) they can do so through the reevaluation process. Not all "probies" might want the extra powers/responsibilities, and can remain at the probationary level if they wish
But basically, I don't think that more frequent reevaluations is the way to go (even if it's just once). Major problems can be handled via misconduct, minor problems, well they are the lifeblood of the wiki (where would we be without teh drama? Boxer.gif), and we just get on with it -- boxy talkteh rulz 00:32 13 February 2011 (BST)
This would be better than the forced A/RE. A/RE will just make newer sysops weaker and be more inclined to just be crowd pleasers rather than be bold ops, which sometimes is necessary. The first few months are pretty unfamiliar and difficult anyway. It'd make it too much of a popularity contest imo. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 00:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
My thought on PSO was less to make probation dependent on being new, but rather on being disputed - essentially, a "yes, but" card for cases when community input is unclear. Completely new ops might be more often heavily disputed than those who've already served a tenure and have shown that they know the ropes - but not always, as most recently seen with Vapor, who was overall well-accepted despite being new. I can see some merit in a buffer between promotion and power over the drama sections for certain new op candidates, but for RE (as in, say, Cheese's RE), it wouldn't really make sense. -- Spiderzed 01:23, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Cheese's A/RE wasn't really such a big issue though, ross and I agreed on the demotion and there was little response from the community that would suggest it was a wholly unwanted decision. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 02:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't like the idea of singling out "dodgy" sysop applicants, and telling them they are under suspicion. If they're dodgy enough to warrent special attention, then the 'crats should just reject -- boxy talkteh rulz 07:12 13 February 2011 (BST)
I agree with this. If sysops were probationary, it would be for every new promotion, not just those that were "dodgy". Simply put I'd change the re-evaluation policy to read. "After their initial promotion all sysops would be probationally reviewed after 3 months." --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I still think that's a slightly shitty idea. Making them accountable for their first 3 months is not a good thing. We shouldn't be encouraging sysops to keep a low profile or keep out of opinionated discussions where (or too an extent that) they may be needed, for fear of being seen as 'unworthy'. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Cheese was IMHO heavily contested between those who had no hope in his activity improving, and the optimists who assumed he could make a Rocky-like return. But that's just an arbitrary example that could as well be replaced by Yon's RE (where recognition of his janitorial workload conflicted with the checkuser incident and some weird A/VB drama). -- Spiderzed 22:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. We have now two completely different ideas floating around (shortened tenure vs all buttons, no opinion page say), and two different trigger ideas (compulsory for new ops vs option for disputed candidates). Don't think that I'll get everyone on the same page looking at that, so for now at least I will refrain from pursuing that idea further. -- Spiderzed 22:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Duck Hunt

Question. Was the Duck Hunt an official part of the Manhunt Marathon. It says that it is on the Duck Hunt page but not on the Manhunt Marathon page. I'm going to write up an overview of the Duck Hunt for Malton Manhunt past events. ~Vsig.png 23:57, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

It was. Im just lazy. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:08, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


I like spiderzed, fine for promotion. What do you think? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 01:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


You seem really angry with me recently and I have no idea why. Sorry, I guess?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Do I? I'm really not. I'd much rather rail at Thad. Do us a favour though swing by Developing Guides for me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Wa, what's wrong D:? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 19:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I wanted a guide reviewed, but now its done. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
lol. I know what I meant. What bothers you? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 19:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
New sysops need poking. Poking Yon's boring. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
You bully. >:( --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 19:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Tough love. Yon always forget to update Vandal data as well. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
That was one Nazi Permaban!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Update Promotion Procedure(2)

One day early. It was kicked off on Feb 1, so it should close _tomorrow_ on Feb 15 :o Or do I majorly miss something? -- Spiderzed 18:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

FUCKING CHEESE! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
My bad... -- Cheese 19:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You're definitely onto something

I decided to scope out the Hospital cluster in Pegton. Sure enough, where the cades are VSB, dozens of baby docs. Just next door where the cades are EHB, not so much. I'm going to keep an eye on it until its time to head off to AHMH4. As far as the guide, do you plan to expand on it as this experiment progresses? I think there is a lot more potential for the guide but I don't want to shoot it down just because I think its incomplete. If you're going to actively update it then swing my vote to definite support. ~Vsig.png 04:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

axe hack

What are your thoughts on axe hack? I'm fine with promoting him, although personally I think if the content in his bid is anything to go by, he's going to make a really, really garbage sysop when it comes to drama (see: "I work on FACTS" statement then his complete ignoring of facts like TOU and our "pornography as vandalism" clause so he can spout precedence from wikipedia. Not to mention his indecisiveness on the bid otherwise) but that's my opinion and he has the community support for me to be happy to promote him. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 00:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

u think u know me

but u dont... i'll surprise u on my next move... --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 12:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Moving lazily left? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
it'll be crying. when i delete all his fuckin images -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
*snickers* -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:24 18 February 2011 (BST)

I'm Snuffleupagus! [walks into Ross' bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle] f-f-f-f-f-f-f [in a normal voice] Get out of bed! [pokes Ross with snuffle, Ross jumps out of bed] --Bus driver Jim 15:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


how can I make it so the boobs are a link to my name space? having trouble getting the code right.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 17:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

You can't in this wiki version. You can only turn the image into a redirect by entering it on the image page, as done for this image (to pick an example). However, this is a global change that affects all instances of that image (especially the Boobs template, for which your image was originally uploaded). Best you could do is to upload a dupe of the boobs image exclusively for your sig and make that one a redirect. -- Spiderzed 17:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
fuck me. i guess i'll try and do that on my 5 hour plane ride on tuesday night.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 17:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Excellent. Good work minions. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Or you can stick an invisible link over the top. Can't remember the code. Ask Aichon.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Try User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3, it has the code. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
maybe i'm retarded. but that seems to go to you're old siggie DDR.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 08:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
The old siggie is the one with the code -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 11:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

okay this is my code atm --[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ and is the new link for the boobs. where and how do insert it to just make the image a link to my name space or how do i make a redirect?----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 08:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

<div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[|18px]]</div>
All credit to DDR who I obviously just stole the code from. - User:Whitehouse 09:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
still not redirecting back to my name space. :( -- 15:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
It is actually working fine (at least for me). It will seem like it is not working if you are already at your namespace since you already there. -MHSstaff 15:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
ahh edit conflickz! yes it's working that's what i figured. i guess i owe cookies to all involved parties cookies.-- 15:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
okay so now how do i set [User:Sexualharrison/sig this] to be a templated sig?-- bitch 17:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
This should cover your questions. If not, more specific questions please. -- Spiderzed 18:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
nope i'm too supid and busy to figure it out. i like what my sig is now.. i just want to template it.-- bitch 12:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
next stupid question.. how can i make the UtC date thing smaller? i know i'm just lazy.-- bitch 00:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
The only way I know is to use the ~~~~~ (5 tildes instead of 4) to make the timestamp only, and put that in your code, then you have to sign with ~~~ (3 tildes), so it just shows your signature without adding a timestamp, but since the timestamp code is in the signature, it gets put down anyway, and hence you can modify the look of it to suit your needs. Boxy might have a better option though, I'm pretty sure Zombie Lord uses this option. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 01:49, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thanks for you're help-- bitch 12:11 6 March 2011 (UTC)

yo nicra

whatcha think about cheese? just got back from AFK and have to jump to work so I won't be able to review the bid for another 6 hours. your thoughts? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hate to say so but I agree. I really hate doing this to such a great guy. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


Hey. Do you by any chance remember a very old suggestion called 'Betaville'?

Oh cool

Thanks, I must suck at searching, since I've tried many times over the past few months. Anyway, I was thinking of making Betaville. But also, a smaller version of Urban Dead, which would be serious roleplay-oriented. I remember you as being a regular here, so I was wondering if you'd like to try it out when it's done.

P.S. Wasn't sure whether I was supposed to edit my previous topic or make a new one, sorry.

Pegton Hospital Case Study

We like the experiment. Thus, we decided to help educating the newb survivors. XOXOXO, --Sally A. Summers i Ω i 18:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)~

If you have me an RG report, I have you a needle. Err, I mean, oh, what unhealable grief an RG report would bring to me! I'd never revive someone who repo... Oh, what the. --Sally A. Summers i Ω i 19:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)~
Already revived. And why would I report anyone to the RG? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
TO SEE JUSTICE SERVED! Also, DEM said so. Those bounty hunter types really need to know who the evil guise are, so that they can beat them down. Assaulting those nasty PKer types in their clubs and cinemas really shows 'em and stops a lot of PKing dead in its tracks. Doesn't it? --Sally A. Summers i Ω i 19:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Meh, its a tool for bounty hunters, but its also a massive hall of fame for PK'ers. I've never used it, and I think I've only reported on Resensitized twice. The wiki is the domain for me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Nevermind, a team mate took care of it. And yes, it is a sort of a hall of fame (thus probably having rather encouraged PKing, rather than to crack down on it as the original DEM inventors had planned). Being highly visible on it certainly has helped Cobra to grow strong. --Sally A. Summers i Ω i 19:59, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
You do realise most of said inventors had PKer alts, yes? ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 22:21, 29 March 2011 (BST)
Not to mention it's always just been an excuse to PK with community approval. --Karekmaps?! 05:21, 30 March 2011 (BST)
You say that almost like it's a bad thing. Tongue :P ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 11:43, 30 March 2011 (BST)

Zombie Skills

Excellent. On a completely unrelated topic, I think you could find some use for this:

60px Cough Syrup
Spiderzed has given some to Ross against his nasty cold.

-- Spiderzed 15:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Nice. We seem to have lost Thad though. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Just because he has stopped to contribute a week ago doesn't mean that he has ever stopped to work for the wiki. Sure he is just off to voluntary solitude to better contemplate new ways to organize the bids chronology table and to devise other wiki-shaking projects. -- Spiderzed 16:05, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
lolz i was kinda hoping the sky fell on him-- bitch 01:08 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Battle row

Axe needs help deleting, I made a list for him on deletinos--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:13, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Line by line Review

Guides:Guide to Forming Groups Part 2. So, how could it be handled better? --Penguinpyro 01:05, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Axe Hack's Manhunt 4

This is a reminder to you and all the other contestants that AHMH4 begins in exactly one week. Please be in the playing area before the competition begins. Good luck, and happy hunting! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Soft Warning

Consider this a soft warning not to use magic keywords in recruitment ads to "game" the system. Although this won't count towards vandal data, consider yourself warned softly.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:34, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

In addition, your recruitment ad has been removed. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 20:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
fuck off and die :P-- bitch 21:18 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Subst: is your friend? --Karekmaps?! 21:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm massively dissapointed in all of you. It's been like that for ages. Anyway, I'm not really here, corrupted hard drive.Might be back next week, so you can ban me if you so wish.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm massively dissapointed if you left it like that for ages. That's lame -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:48 22 March 2011 (BST)
I'm reserving the disappointment ballroom I've got a lot of it these last few days.--Karekmaps?! 21:26, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Consider it done. Naaaaah I'm just kidding, but will you be emailable? Promotion bid coming up soon, Boxy and RHO's A/RE in a few days so I might need yo -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry, I'm probably just a fever dream myself. --Karekmaps?! 06:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Yep, currently surviving on a noebook with a damaged S key. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:12, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Ro55le55ne55? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 11:48, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


Hey Ross, could you pop on the IRC channel when you get a chance, please? Thanks! --BOSCH 20:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey Ross.

Found this a bit ago; thought you might find it useful.

Fake Location Templates

Been using it to update a couple places.

Thought about making new location templates for buildings I included on my submissions...I dunno. Do you think it's necessary?

Edit: Hmph...for some reason, when I mistype the page name, it creates the page, but when I type it correctly, there's no link at all. --TheBardofAwesome 05:58, 28 March 2011 (BST)

It's because it is a category. When you type it correctly, you are actually adding the talk page to the Fake Location Template category. You need to do it like this: [[:Category:Fake Location Templates|Fake Location Templates]]. Basically, add another colon before the category name. I went ahead and fixed it for you.
Fake Location Templates
-MHSstaff 06:13, 28 March 2011 (BST)


Hey mate, what are your thoughts on Box? I don't think he's lived up to the expectations a long-time sysop should, and maybe its perhaps his time to step down. I hope you agree. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 07:25, 31 March 2011 (BST)

Ha! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:33, 31 March 2011 (BST)
So you don't agree? This is a sad day when I have to enact my veto policy to take a horribly inept sysop out for his own good and the good of the team. I'm sorry you don't feel this way -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:40, 31 March 2011 (BST)
boo! -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 15:57 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Frankly I'd demote you and install boxy in your place, then promote thad and permaban grim. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:11, 31 March 2011 (BST)
yea! than BOOO! Again! -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 18:30 31 March 2011 (UTC)
this is why you shouldn't have buttons--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 05:16, 1 April 2011 (BST)
omg ddr has an opinion when in power and doesn't let it get in the way of his sysop roles. omg ddr makes jokes. omg -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:50, 1 April 2011 (BST)
Seriously though did you think I was serious? Or are you just trying to get the sort of reaction that your signature couldn't get? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:51, 1 April 2011 (BST)

BTW I cycled it as successful, what do you think about RHO? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 01:27, 2 April 2011 (BST)

Broad support, good admin skills, and we gave cheese a chance when it came to inactivity, so lets give red one more go. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:38, 2 April 2011 (BST)
I happily agree. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 02:22, 3 April 2011 (BST)


thoughts on devilash? so far my opinion is the same as rev's first bid. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:49, 4 April 2011 (BST)

As in it was posted by someone else as a joke? He's failed to answer the basic questions about why he needs the buttons, and several wiki users believe it to be nothing more than a joke bid, which doesnt reflect well on him. So yeah, not this time. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:36, 4 April 2011 (BST)
I more meant just after tonnes of drama, then promising to go straight, etc. either way, done -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 02:02, 5 April 2011 (BST)


hey motherfucker, what are your thoughts on revenant? methinks its about time to promote. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 09:41, 12 April 2011 (BST)

For reasons I can't seem to justify I'm against his promotion. Strange really. But the style stuff is an interesting project, he's got support from across a wide range of the meta and he'll make future crat elections interesting. Although he is Australian, and thus unreliable. So yeah, promote him.
Oh. And yes for cheese. He finished thads grand project and has been active. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:28, 12 April 2011 (BST)
I am also personally against his promotion, but there is not nearly enough movement against his promotion to take that stance seriously. K I'll cycle now. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:44, 13 April 2011 (BST)
so that does mean yer gonna demote thad now? pretty please. :P -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 23:50 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Can you plz stop butting in on our crat discussions with nonsense -.- -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:44, 13 April 2011 (BST)
You could probably just save a generic anti thad comment as part of your sig. It would save time. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:54, 13 April 2011 (BST)
Ceterum censeo Thadeous esse delendam? -- Spiderzed 14:04, 13 April 2011 (BST)
DDR i can't promise anything, but I will try since you are such a swell guy, but I think our newly minted sysop told you about this new invention on another talk page called EMAIL! if you don't want your conversation interrupted in anyway. and ross, good idea. but that would give the impression that i actually give a shit about thad. apologizes for interrupting yer serious bizness.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:13 13 April 2011 (UTC)
"but that would give the impression that i actually give a shit about thad" You're kidding right? You have been obsessively stalking me for months, if I'd receive a penny for every dumb comment you make about me I could swim in cash like Scrooge McDuck by now. Feel free to keep going until my term will end at September though. --Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 14:23, 13 April 2011 (BST)
Harrison, I've asked ddr to keep all our promotion discussion on wiki, as I think its a fair place to discuss the wiki and it lets people chime in and tell me im wrong. Thad, just prove your competent. There's a suggestion that needs cycling. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:48, 13 April 2011 (BST)
out of respect for you and DDR i will not butt into important crat discussions since you explained the reasons why. we do need a measure of transparency for you all to remain as trusted users. thad, go cry me a river. or step down now and save us all the trouble.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:52 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Yeah. I'm not trying to be personal and I'm not trying to be elitist, neither of those things are attitudes I feel are appropriate, but it's just the way me and ross do things and it's a talk that realistically will only be fulfilled by crats unless pressing or important information may need to be brought forward by a user (which is fine obvs) but personal things arent the stuff I desire in this discussion. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 16:21, 13 April 2011 (BST)
Hit up cheese in the penis (ie promoted him) too. The sysop team is getting swollen but hopefully the stretchmarks will dissapear soon ;) -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:03, 14 April 2011 (BST)

Thanks for resizing the picture of the honey badgers group in the lamport hills page

Doing My Bit

Template diet. --Rosslessness 21:51, 14 April 2011 (BST)

CUT THE FAT CUT THE FAT! --Karekmaps?! 21:55, 14 April 2011 (BST)
As if you really need that link to Omega Map anymore. --Rosslessness 21:56, 14 April 2011 (BST)
It's sorta like it's part of me now that I've had it so long. Maybe I should make it link Iwit or CR instead but meh. --Karekmaps?! 02:33, 15 April 2011 (BST)
Maybe this is better :D --Karekmaps 2.0?! 06:00, 16 April 2011 (BST)
Im sorry for your loss. Now run for sysop so I can be entertained. --Rosslessness 08:30, 16 April 2011 (BST)

your sig is un sexy

fix it or else!--  bitch 17:49, 21 April 2011

Thanks for the heads up. I did notice the stats page came back fairly quickly, and took down that post. It's nice to have an explanation for its temporary absence though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Altrieth (talkcontribs) 23:53, 28 April 2011 (UTC).

Calling Dr Ross!!

Rosso, you know this fella? I'm trying to get hold of him thru me CAPD alt. I can't call him, as the phone masts are down, and I wondered if you had any dealings/communications with his group, BMF, through your 404 lifestyle? If so, any chance you could ask him to swing by CAPD's forum plox? Mucho thankos. Content.gif ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 11:36, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Check the OBR forum, I think he's there. --Rosslessness 11:52, 1 May 2011 (BST)


"Thads book only has three pages and it took him ages to do all the colouring properly. --Rosslessness 17:09, 30 April 2011 (BST)"

--That filthy fucking red link 12:11, 1 May 2011 (BST)


Rosslessness said:
Thanks Grim.

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Yonnua has given Rosslessness a cookie for epically burning grim.

--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 13:03, 2 May 2011 (BST)

the dunce hat

put it on! put it on! put it on!

(misconduct allegations add variety to a leader's background. just ask nixon) --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 10:09, 3 May 2011 (BST)

Does this mean I can go to china? --Rosslessness 10:25, 3 May 2011 (BST)


I've put the block through, 1 day 20 hours. Protected your talk page while the ban is done as per scheduled protections, email if anything pressing regarding your crat duties needs doing etc. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:07, 3 May 2011 (BST)


I'm glad to see you back. I just wanted to let you know that despite what happened, I'm not terribly upset and there's no resentment. Keep on keeping on, Sir Sysop.--Deadman Walken 20:25, 5 May 2011 (BST)

Missed opportunity

to find work for Thad. Although I can see the reasoning for putting the burden on me, looking how I probably got the most negligible punishment ever received for clear-cut misconduct. -- Spiderzed 20:38, 5 May 2011 (BST)

I was tempted to ban you for 61 seconds. That would have been pointless. --Rosslessness 21:00, 5 May 2011 (BST)
It's not the same when you do it on purpose. And you and everyone else would forever know it. -- Spiderzed 21:47, 5 May 2011 (BST)

Yo bro

Are you still exiled on a Pacific Island? There's bureaucraty stuff to be done. ~Vsig.png 16:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back

Not much. Well. You may want to check the drama pages and policy discussions, actually. I promoted General and have as yet completely failed to demote anybody. I know, I know, I'm setting a shockingly terrible example. Icon rolleyes.gif ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 01:00, 27 May 2011 (BST)

I must know

What did in Dermot O'Leary, in the end? ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 02:21, 28 May 2011 (BST)

zp done?

OMG! A lot's changed since... (I think it was) second beta... -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 02:18, 22 June 2011 (BST)

Yeah. Im no longer interested in any ways. I hate it when games are "finished" --Rosslessness 13:16, 22 June 2011 (BST)
Are they no longer developing? It's been a while since I visited. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 15:39, 22 June 2011 (BST)


Haggers' bid ended yesterday. Just giving you a heads up.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 00:18, 24 June 2011 (BST)

Agreed on both. Hooray for status quo? (And sorry about the delayed response, didn't expect to be out of action that long.) ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 06:30, 27 June 2011 (BST)


What British person spells Humourous as "Humorous". Suddenly, I am highly suspicious of you, MR Rosslessness.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 14:24, 15 July 2011 (BST)

Who said I was Male? --Rosslessness 14:43, 15 July 2011 (BST)
You must be. This misogynistic wiki would never allow for a female crat. Besides, everyone knows that no girl plays UD. -- Spiderzed 14:54, 15 July 2011 (BST)
My capitalisation clearly indicates that i was in fact calling you M R Rosslessness, or for those that don't know... MORIARTY ROSS ROSSLESSNESS!--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 15:10, 15 July 2011 (BST)

Scent Fear

Do any of your research alts have Scent Fear without Diagnosis? I need a screenshot of the 'dying' and 'wounded' statuses, and it's going to take a few days on my own. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:02, 15 July 2011 (BST)

I may have. I'm assuming only scent fear and not the other skills? --Rosslessness 00:41, 16 July 2011 (BST)
Just Scent Fear, not the ones below it. I need a screenie or two of just the effects of Scent Fear. We're coming to get you, Barbara 00:43, 16 July 2011 (BST)

Giovanni Cupcake

That user page was created with the spambot IP. That was good enough reason for me to instadelete it, as per Cornlolio creates Wotan's Templar with proxy precedent. People know where A/M is found if they think I've bent WIKI LAW too much. -- Spiderzed 16:57, 17 July 2011 (BST)

[[2]] involved me removing a few hundred edits because of the users IP. Im really the last person to check this with. --Rosslessness 17:04, 17 July 2011 (BST)
Or, alternatively, the first. Wink ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 22:11, 29 July 2011 (BST)

Proof = Screenshots

Actually, the screenies were never entered to the zerg liste, despite my repeated requests to submit them. Sure would get me busted and end my zerging days if anyone did. -- Spiderzed 12:05, 20 July 2011 (BST)

Really? I thought the allegations were uploaded and almost immediately shunted to the discussion forum? You can always add them yourself. --Rosslessness 12:12, 20 July 2011 (BST)
Why should I? The zerg liste is clearly on the payroll of The Man™ and out there to supress The Truth™, just like the Wiki Mod Clique™. We should rather send it to Cheveyo for review. On a more serious note, think you could use some semi-protection on your talk page? -- Spiderzed 12:39, 20 July 2011 (BST)
Nope. Im more than happy to let him blast through wiki accounts and IP's. Its a fantastic way to get open proxies blocked en mass. --Rosslessness 12:41, 20 July 2011 (BST)
Actually, I totally ratted you out, you fiend! And… hang on, you should know this. Didn't you get the threatening blackmail letter? If not, then how did you know to— I've said too much. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 08:19, 28 July 2011 (BST)
2 weeks is a good benchmark, put a link in the news box on the main page as well, get real involvement.--Like Moss and The Dude..... 08:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


Yeah, sorry for the absence. Have been ungodly sick. Someone(s) somewhere poked me about UDWiki, so here I am.

I imagine Mis's promo should be uncontroversial, let's see about the other… ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 07:37, 28 July 2011 (BST)

And Katthew's looks like it lacks the necessary support. Your thoughts? ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 08:03, 28 July 2011 (BST)


Looks pretty straightforward to me. Keep. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 07:34, 31 July 2011 (BST)

NecroNet clarification?

A question - the NecroNet scans only count zombies that haven't taken a step since they were last scanned, right? The DNA Extractor wiki entry seems to imply this, and friggin' common sense tells me that's how it works, since you get to rescan a zombie every time it moves from a space (or even moves from it, then back to it). But it's never explicitly stated that that's how the NecroNet works. (The NecroNet wiki entry is even more useless on this matter than the DNA Extractor entry).

Does it do something other than this? Like maybe consider a zombie to still be on the square it was last scanned, until a) the zombie is rescanned again, b) the zombie dies, c) the server resets, d) other, e) any combination of the above? Why isn't something so rudimentary as this clearly stated in either of these main entries????

And...err...I'm assuming that NecroNet doesn't follow the steps of a scanned zombie as it walks around the suburb. (Based on the fact that the wiki entry says the DNA Extractor uploads the coordinates of the zombie, not the zombie itself). Still, would do any harm to actually just say that in the entry? I was about to add a sentence, but figured I should probably get a second opinion (and confirmation that I actually assumed correctly) first. :/ --Jen 21:57, 20 August 2011 (BST)

For that matter, the wiki says is that it can't be scanned again until it takes "an action." Is this really the case? I didn't think stuff like groaning or hitting something could reset the scan. (And what about going into a building or out of a building? The coordinates are the same, but does it count as a resetting move?)--Jen 22:09, 20 August 2011 (BST)
Here's some discussion, the standard used to be extractor reset at 1 BST. There was some belief that that was changed and the page was probably updated based on that but I've never seen proof of that claim. Necronet resets on extractor changes iirc, otherwise it's possible that the scans are by location when scanned then reset at day change since that'd make more practical sense. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:29, 22 August 2011 (BST)
A belated thanks. :) Once Kbank settles back down to its usual green and survivors are back to having more AP then they know what to do with, I'll see if I can get a KT or two to run some tests on me. For science! --Jen 16:40, 29 August 2011 (BST)

Halp w images

Once upon a time, you asked what I needed help with. I'd like to get a background image up on the SDN wiki and I'm having trouble digging up info on that for myself. Can you tell me how to do that?
yeah, forgot sig. oops Leon Silverblood 23:01, 25 August 2011 (BST)

just did a 266ap repair!!

first i think you should teach leon how to sign his fucking posts.. second i just did a 266ap repair!! is that some kind of record?-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 22:36, 25 August 2011 (bst)

Not even close. --"Workshed" 22:52, 25 August 2011 (BST)
damn 266AP REPAIR BITCHES!!‎-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 22:55, 25 August 2011 (bst)

Seriously how good is this article though. FUCK -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 00:49, 26 August 2011 (BST)

thats pretty cool. not a bad repair tho.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 09:29, 26 August 2011 (bst)

Are you going to ask the question yet or are you and rev genuinely into the idea of being lazy arse crats. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:00, 26 August 2011 (BST)

Honestly I'd rather you just do it now thanks. No reason why I should have to wait a week to be demoted cause two people are too lazy to access the page twice over a week. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:35, 27 August 2011 (BST)

Jerry's Map

I was looking around and was referenced to this guy. Essentially, since the late 60's, he's been creating thousands of maps. These maps include cities, towns, farms, forests, mountains, deserts, etc. It's absolutely brilliant and reminded me of your Unemplementia.

Just thought you should know.--TheBardofAwesome 02:06, 27 August 2011 (BST)

Dealt in Lead...1

Is back. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 09:29, 27 August 2011 (BST)

Crat election tie

Looks likenyou'll have one final decision to make as crat you lazy bum. As I told Rev, Boxy has my support so there really isn't much decision making needed I don't think. By the way thanks for all you did as crat. Sorry to see you stepping down from the role. ~Vsig.png 00:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I actually haven't voted yet. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:28, 29 August 2011 (BST)


Yo, email me a list of potential invites for the Manhunt Masters Invitational.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:22, 1 September 2011 (BST)

Yo, let's coordinate our invites with the others just to make sure we don't happen to send duplicate recommendations. I offer up Organization XIII's irc channel (server:, channel: #OrgXIII) for our coordination. Organization XIII is low on members, so that channel's not really in use at the moment. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:03, 1 September 2011 (BST)

I lol-ed

I don't know what's going on in DiL between Berserkas and you, DDR, and Yon, but it seems I'm the only one with any friendly connections with him. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:07, 24 September 2011 (BST)

Bless. I have no problem with B. Helped me max my defence skills. --Hey Sweden! 07:08, 24 September 2011 (BST)
Neither do I. I havent played in years because that CUNT kept killing me IT WAS BULLSHIT -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 08:16, 24 September 2011 (BST)


Hey Rosslessness. Question: is it not okay to say a pker/gker is inside a building? i recently mentioned a group's name in a building's danger report. when i'm editing reports/news, the safe status is attached with a warning if a killer is this considered POV? Son of Sin 08:54, 24 September 2011 (BST)

As long as itsin that format, I see no issue. You make no judgement, and could equally well mention other groups in a similar fashion. --Hey Sweden! 19:17, 24 September 2011 (BST)
Cool. Thanks. Son of Sin 19:54, 24 September 2011 (BST)


Yo White Army comrade - war approaches - Comms for Twins - DSS 893-0234     : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:54, 19 October 2011

Only member of the White Army without kills

I am disappoint.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:26, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

History preservation

Hey I tested the export page function. We can just categorize any page that we want to preserve and export them all at once. Just categorize anything you want to save as Category:Pages to Preserve and one of us (or all of us if we want) can use Special:Export to save it. It's just a matter of determining which pages we want to preserve. ~Vsig.png 18:23, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Its just the histories that will be destroyed, not the pages, so theres probably not a lot we need to do. Perhaps a few image revisions, but nothing major this time. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 21:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I did Misconduct. I'd hate to lose the history of Grim coup or Wikigate. Spidey did VB archives. Those were the only two admin pages where it seemed worth the effort. Now it's high traffic or highly vandalised pages we're trying to decide on. I don't think it will be too earth shattering if we lose too much but it will be nice to hang on to some things. ~Vsig.png 21:44, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I will think. Karek checked everything last time. Nothing really springs to mind. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 21:47, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Aren't 'Crat elections coming up in a week or two? Perhaps we should archive all SysOps' contributions? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Yes they are but I'm unsure of how to back up Special pages. They're not quite the same as articles. I just tried with Special:Contributions/Vapor without luck. ~Vsig.png 23:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
We may have to manually count all contribs since the last election. Speaking of counting manually, wasn't Yon the one who counts this stuff? Whatever happened to him keeping track of every month's contribs? >_> --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:41, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Crat elections will be on November 29. And they require just 12 edits in 30 days. Unless the purge happens on November 28 and includes all back log, I doubt it will have much effect on BP. -- Spiderzed 23:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Kevan said it would only be stuff older than one year so it's not likely going to be an issue. I'd still like to back up my contribs if I can. Contibs is tied to history, though and so when history is wiped so are contribs. I may do something with copypasta or page source. Or I may just stop worrying about it and go with it. ~Vsig.png 00:01, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Pages that have content cycled out may be worth keeping, just for later reference. DS would be one such example, though I don't know how worthwhile its old content is. Aichon 02:53, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Not very. I had the same idea and came to the conclusion that DS just wasn't worth it. I've been mulling over Arbies, though. ~Vsig.png 03:14, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
It occurs to me that page ownership will be more difficult to establish after this for pages in the mainspace. Just something to consider. Aichon 03:23, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Aye, that it will. It's a bridge that will have to be crossed when/if it becomes an issue later. Squat that we can do about it really. ~Vsig.png 03:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Moot now. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 19:52, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
I don't see any history wipes. I still see everything up to August 2008. >_> --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Same. I didn't see any history wipes. I even checked deleted page history. ~Vsig.png 16:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Kevan deleted the wiki-history that never happened. It's quite obvious. --  AHLGTG 00:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I like The World of Gnome you have created, good work, keep it up! It pleases me tremendously that someone else takes a liking to the little people of the magical fairy tale world! --LaughingVeggies 04:44, 14 November 2011 (PST)
I agree. Moar WoG, pl0x. ~Vsig.png 01:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
No, LESS! I'm contrarian because I can be! Aichon 04:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


...and all that jazz. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 18:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Axe Hack's Manhunt 5

5 days. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:05, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The Next Shintolin?

Light Rising. Perhaps you should check it out or something. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I hate you. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 19:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Don't blame me. Blame Berserkas for slipping me the link. >_> --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:22, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
He actually got players? Geez. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 19:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


And the stuff the communists have put there is not POV? So hypocritical. Are you a communist yourself maybe? Generaloberst 20:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Traditionally, I've always been a white Russian as you ask. It's not the statement of existence but the advertisment for the group I wanted revisiting. Such comments are normally cleared from the things to do section, as they are replicated by the Template:Dakerstown_Groups area of the page, where they belong.--Like Moss and The Dude..... 20:25, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
So what if I were to add my group there too? This makes no sense. Generaloberst 10:47, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Yep, thats the place for it. I agree the whole blurb seems a bit POV not just your addition. Might have a look at clearing it up. Thanks. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 17:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The ghost town problem

Ok, I'm sending this to you, because it seems you're the only sysop here with an IQ higher than 80. I've been updating the status rapport of Dakerstown recently. Please take a look at it here, and notice how it hasn't been changed since medio 2009, when Urban Dead had twice as many players as it has now. Note that at Ghost town it says "At least 2/3 of the suburb's buildings either empty of Survivors or Ransacked/Ruined AND max 60 zombies in suburb and no zombie groups above 10." I've made a quick calc based on the stats page which says right now there are 5942 standing survivors. That gives an average of 59,42 survivors per suburb. This means that - according to the present rules - it's fairly easy for a suburb to become a ghost town, and there probably are a lot more of them than the suburbs page says. I don't know the average number of buildings per suburb, I mean, in theory we could be good, but practically there could be over 20 ghost towns right now. If you tell me how many buildings Malton has I'll make another calc and make an advise.

Also there are just a little over 3000 standing zombies in Malton, so 30 per suburb on average. That problem is even more severe than the survivor problem, because there can be only 50 suburbs with 60 zombies. That means that there's a big chance that suburbs marked red now are actually ghost town as well.

In my opinion ghost town should be an exception, not a rule. Thanks --Generaloberst 18:35 9 December, 2011 (UTC)

The suburb danger levels are heavily outdated. There have been a few attempts to revise them, but none of them was carried through. -- Spiderzed 20:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Why not? Generaloberst 20:19 9 December, 2011 (UTC)
"Human inertia" is the right answer to a surprising lot of wiki questions. -- Spiderzed 21:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Please forward me a link to that, I'd like the check it out. Generaloberst 22:51 9 December, 2011 (UTC)
Just some recent attempts. -- Spiderzed 23:03, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
I do like what Zombieload had in his sandbox might be a tad too busy on a giant map though.        23:20, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Spiderzed, those are all just suggestions. How do suggestions usually process before being accepted as wiki law? Generaloberst 23:22 9 December, 2011 (UTC)
In the situations like suburb pages? On the talk, like he cited. Those suggesting changes either didn't have the juggernaut attitude required to power through status-quo obsessed naysayers, or were rightfully put down by the naysayers because the ideas addressed problems that didn't really exist. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:13, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
And who are the naysayers in this case? As far as I can see most ideas were taken with quite some assent. Generaloberst 11:40 10 December, 2011 (UTC)
If that's the case then the so-called juggernauts never got around to, or never bothered, implementing such changes because of the difficulty or sheer challenge of task. I wouldn't really know much because I don't care, I haven't read a suggestion or idea in much depth for years because I know the iconic status quo always ends up staying, and if it did change it would be of no interest to me, I'd just adapt to it DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Wtf is a juggernaut? I only know them from call of duty. Generaloberst 16:48 10 December, 2011 (UTC)
A juggernaut is a lorry, or other large towing vehicle. Although in this case its being used in a more Hindu fashion. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 16:57, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Got it. Well I'll be the juggernaut. You guys know me well enough now to know if there's someone that likes kicking against the system, it's me. Proposition coming right up. Just make sure that you guys support my cause if u want to change something. Generaloberst 17:15 10 December, 2011 (UTC)
Looks like they already did, Talk:Suburb#The_ghost_town_problem. Jump on it. Generaloberst 17:31 10 December, 2011 (UTC)
Again, I don't really care all too mich. But good luck. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:15, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Since no one has complained, I guess no one has objection against the change. Can I update the suburb page? Generaloberst 0:26 11 December, 2011 (UTC)
wow you waited like a whole 6 hours how admirable DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Since there are no guidelines for that, how long should I wait then, in your opinion? Generaloberst 13:25 11 December, 2011 (UTC)
I've put it on Wiki News, though it seems I can't edit this page so that it will appear on the main page. Any help would be appreciated. Generaloberst 13:45 11 December, 2011 (UTC)
Semi protection must be prohibiting your access. I've added it for you. 2 weeks? absolutely fine. Ending with a vote is even better IMO DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Idk how the voting thing works, feel free to make one though. Generaloberst 15:42 11 December, 2011 (UTC)

Status dakerstown

Hi, I saw you edited Dakerstown back to yellow. Can you confirm it is yellow? Is 2/3rds of all buildings filled with survivors? I highly doubt it since it's not so long ago since we ruined it. Generaloberst 15:42, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, it wasnt dangerous - Zombies inside many resource buildings; OR hostile mobs of 50+, so I picked the level I felt best reflected the overall situation. As said in discussion, theres a lot of dispute to be had. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 17:19, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok so you knew it was actually a ghost town, but you thought moderately dangerous was a better reflection? Generaloberst 18:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Because of the infrastructure levels, and the fact that necrscans revealed less than ten activve zombies in the area it was a ridiculous compromise. Was it green because of numbers? Dangerous because of active strikes, or a ghost town because the survivor number was only moderately higher than the zombies. In the end I used the repaired building note as the best marker i felt reflected the current status. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 18:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
That's not good enough. You need 100% proof AND ONLY VON UNDRED PERZENT DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:03, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
screenies or it did not happen.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 02:17, 15 December 2011 (bst)
DDR stop putting words in my mouth. I only asked Ross a few questions. I never said that he shouldn't have made the changes. Ross knows that because he isn't stupid. You clearly are. Generaloberst 9:56, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
But you implied. Generaloberst 17:56, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
For the sake of accuracy, I'd like to point out that ze is more properly faux-French; German uses die, der, or das. As evidence, I present this GoogleFight. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 07:07, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I speak german. perhaps the joke flew over your head so far it may as well have been the hubble telescope DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:37, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I doubt it matters to the general, who wouldn't know a German if they came up and took him roughly from behind :) -- boxy 10:53, 19 December 2011 (BST)
Oh, don't worry, I got it. Wink Just letting you know the funetik aksent sounded more French than German, is all. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 13:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm Still Pissed At You...

...for getting me killed in Borehamwood. You monster. ;) --Haliman - Talk 00:49, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Blah. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 14:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Im not really here

Can someone cycle the suggestion system? Theres two in there that started in November.--Like Moss and The Dude..... 14:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Fascist Italian

Why exactly have you pretended to be a fascist, using Fascist Italian as nickname? Generaloberst 14:27, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

None of the above comment makes any sense. --Rosslessness 21:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
As soon as I said something 'sensitive', he disappeared from urbandead, the wiki + his mail without a trace. I think it was someone trying to bait me. Generaloberst 23:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
*who baited me DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:50, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Not me I'm afraid. I would never of done this. --Rosslessness 00:10, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
That guy? He's still around. "Italian Facsist" was just an alias. ~Vsig.png 00:57, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok so the person that did this, please step forward now. I'm curious to see who it was. The IP adress is from San Diego so it can't be DDR. Maybe Vapor? Generaloberst 13:09, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Is there anyone on this wiki from CA or Nevada? Generaloberst 13:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Been bothering you off site as well? Throw the ip through an IP checker and make sure it isn't a proxy first. --Rosslessness 14:21, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Only on the mail as far as I know. Looked it up, it's not a proxy. I'm pretty sure he lives in either San Diego or LA. Now if I could just find out whoever on this wiki lives there... Generaloberst 17:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Harrison? Generaloberst 17:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm finding it kinda hard to believe. I remember I actually told Fascist Italian through the mail where Kool Aid Man (a Harrison alt) was located. He killed him and send the picture to me. So... he killed himself? If Fascist Italian is Harrison then I don't know whether to admire the trick or denounce it. But yeah, you can expect a lot from a Jew... Generaloberst 18:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if one of the sysops could check Fascist Italian's IP, to see if it's a clone of someone else on the wiki. And to act accordingly. Especially you, Vapor. If you know who Fascist Italian is and he's a clone, then it's your duty as a sysops to do something about it. Generaloberst 18:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Simply no. And even if I were inclined to do it, I wouldn't reveal that kind of sensetive information. I'm pretty sure that whoever it is probably doesn't appreciate that you're handing out his personal information on a free public website. If you're set in finding out who it is, you're on your own. Don't involve the sysops because that's not our fucking job. ~Vsig.png 18:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Sysops cannot give out that information. See here for details. -- Emot-argh.gif 21:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Uhm, no we can't. See Yon's misconduct case where he revealed the identity of an alt if you want precedent (sorry can't link right now). Wiki alts are allowed and they're allowed to keep their identities hidden if they choose. It only becomes an issue if both wiki alts have voted on an administrative page (sock puppeting) or one or the other alt is banned and/or facing a ban (Vandal alts). Otherwise, we don't reveal any information garnered through checkuser privleges. ~Vsig.png 21:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
sigh, first thing mr wannabe nazi. all of my alts are listed on my user page. unlike you i have nothing to hide. second since you are so interested to know where I live. i live in NYC and have a ski house in northern Vermont and a beach house share in the hamptons LI. you are more than welcome to come for a visit. also have you noticed that I have never bothered to contact you or call you out on your talk page? thats because I want nothing to do with you. now here is a quarter go get a life.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 19:39, 24 January 2012 (bst)
Can me and panty use your beach house?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
who is panty? and the only person from UD who I would ever want to meet in RL I already have. fiffy. and she is marvelous -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 23:24, 24 January 2012 (bst)
my better half, and you just said the fakenazi was "more than welcome" ... you like fakenazi's more than me!... Unless.... fakenazi is fiffy in disguise! I just blew this thing wide open!--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
would you please stop messing with my sekrit spai plans to invite fakenazi to a passover seder.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 01:31, 25 January 2012 (bst)


Hey, what's the deal with deletion requests? Do they need to be ratified by the sysops before they're deleted or something like that? It just says on the deletion page that they get deleted after 2 weeks if the public vote says to. o.O I'm only asking because Sexual linked me to a guide that said to ask Project welcome members if I was confused by anything, and the current deletion request had me flummoxed. Thanks for helping alleviate my confusion. --Shortround 10:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

The Current deletion request. As I say, just a bit confused. :P--Shortround 17:16, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Yep. Seems no sop has got around to it. I'll have a look, probably delete it as per policy. Thanks for pointing out. --Rosslessness 17:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh sorry! :P Assumed that it was some procedural thing, didn't realise it was just that nobody had done it yet. <.< --Shortround 17:55, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I have another question: I've just been moving suburb news to the relevant archives, but the most recent news article on the Ridleybank page is from yesterday (months are weird like that). I'm thinking I just leave it a week and then archive it then, because it's still very current news. What do you think?--Shortround 11:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

i think a month is usually 30 days. so you should wait until they are at least that old. and if i didn't have better things to do I would roll back all those unnecessary edits you made. things move a bit slower on this wiki. step back and calm down.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 12:42, 1 February 2012 (bst)
Okey doke. Sorry. <.> -Shortround 13:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
no worries i know you mean well.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 17:25, 1 February 2012 (bst)

Short Story Contest

Rummaging around the wiki, I stumbled on your old short story contest. I was wondering if you are planning on hosting another sometime. I found the entries to be interesting, to say the least. John Ibans 04:39, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


Hey you. Yes you. As OrgXIII has helped you take down Ferreol and Titus these past two days ( and Kirsty, at least), we want you to pop in O13's irc channel (NexusWar server, #OrgXIII) and coordinate a few strikes with us. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:04, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Project Timeline

Hey I've been putting a lot of thought into finally picking up on this project again and you had contribited to discussion so I thought I'd hit you up. The idea here is to not only complete the graphical timeline but also create a project space for concise and NPOV wiki articles about different aspects of the game history. UDWiki:Project Timeline is the namespace I had in mind and history articles would go to UDWiki:Project Timeline/Article Nmae. Mostly the reason I'm reaching out to you is because I'm a lot less active on the wiki these days so I would need some help getting the project off the ground. What do you say. You up to helping with a big project like this? ~Vsig.png 18:07, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure --Rosslessness 18:21, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Exxxxcelent. It should be mostly self sufficient once the project guidleines are in place. I'll play around with the graphical timeline a bit to try to make it more user friendly and then move it over from my userspace. Want to have the honor of writing the first history article? Perhaps Monroville? I'm thinking an all inclusive article that covers start to end with major groups, sieges, events in between. Also need an article about the very early game history. Thinking of hitting up some old skool players to fill in details that I can't piece together from other sources. ~Vsig.png 18:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC) ~Vsig.png 18:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Got a format? I can do both perma death cities. Separate time lines?--Rosslessness 18:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
No real format in mind other than just traditional wiki article. NPOV, opening statement and different sections covering different aspects. We can use your article for reference for others. Once we get an article or two, I'll throw them in a navigation template for the top of the timeline main page. One article for both cities would probably be fine. ~Vsig.png 19:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
On second thought, separate timelines would probably be best. We don't need to rewrite long articles here. Keep it concise, link to other existing articles. The idea is that one shouldn't need to trudge through many articles which may not be well linked in order to learn about the game history. ~Vsig.png 19:40, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
UDWiki:Project Timeline/Monroeville Timeline and UDWiki:Project Timeline/Borehamwood Timeline are up if you're still interested. I'm going to keep working on the timeline itself but also contribute to the individual timeline pages. I'll bring the project to community projects here pretty soon once a format starts to emerge. ~Vsig.png 15:43, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcoming, wish I had some people to chat to for help. I started and I'm stuck alone xD


Starlington, but I fell asleep outside, just outside the doors of my safehouse! D: I'm at Comers Tower


Can groups or users claim buildings? Is that at all possible? Can you 'add friends' so that they can enter your barricaded areas? Isaac Tiberius

Need Help

I need to talk to an administrator or someone as soon as you read this. I was wronged and had my privacy invaded in a way I do not know how or why, and the users spread all of the contents all over an IRC. I personally request some sort of assistance in finding someone who can help me, this isn't like a cyber bully, this was like a hacker, a user hacking. --Isaac Tiberius 07:15, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


It was through the site and IRC, I think the wiki barely had a place in it... And "Email This User" doesn't show for me. --Isaac Tiberius 14:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

You need to set up an email attached to your wiki account before you're able to, then enable the email function.--Shortround 18:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


Did you really think I was unaware that zombie hands tear barricades down faster than survivors with a crowbar, or that a needle is the fastest way to 'kill' a zombie (unless you use multiple loaded shotguns, he has no flak jacket and no body building skill)? What you described is exactly what a coördinated strike is. I already said a coördinated strike can kill Sitzkrieg. Though it takes only 18AP (10 for revive, 1 for repair, 1 stand up after dying of infection and 6 for ruining the building) at all times. Any extra AP can be used to cade and search. I'm completely aware that Sitzkrieg isn't effective against highly coördinated groups, but in calm environments they are very much so since they allow death cultists to defend a building with minimal manpower and AP needed. Generaloberst 20:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I deleted your multiple post I hope you don't mind. I assumed you knew everything above. However, the tactics page is created specifically for others to read, not just for the creator to show how brilliant he is. You posted incorrect information on the page, (The 55ap figure for example) and I corrected it. --Rosslessness 20:19, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Reverted your edit for you. If you want to delete your post feel fine. No need to delete my comment at the same time. --Rosslessness 20:22, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Well you make it seem like I invented a tactic that is useless, which it is not. The 55AP figure is correct when using a crowbar. EHB+4 to VSB+2 are 11 steps with a 20% chance of making a hit. 5*11=55. Sorry about the delete, I tried to delete the multipost as well but you were faster or something. I already reverted it myself. Generaloberst 20:23, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
No problem. Well my issues were, the 22ap figure, the status that a crowbar was the most effective way of decading, and the fact you used absolute figures when you meant "on average", plus your decision to ignore the fact that the defenders would be more easily removed with a single needle. Oh, and if an area is "Quiet", why would you use this tactic? Its surely best employed in an area where survivors are actively tring to retake the building. Otherwise you've got two players using No ap over a number of days to block access to a building people aren't trying to get into anyway. --Rosslessness 20:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Didn't use absolute figures. I constantly used the word "about", which indicates an average. Shotgun against bodybuilding + flakjacket was an example, which is why the sentence started with "if". Of course I had given it a thought to use a needle as example, but then figured to leave it since needle isn't always the fastest kill.
The tactic isn't best in an environment where survivors actively try to retake the building. With Sitzkrieg you can recade only a few times a day. Blitzkrieg works best in "busy" environments. Sitzkrieg is better if the cades don't get collapsed more than the times of recading*10 (EHB+4 to HB) each day. You're right about a "quiet" environment though. Basically it puts 2 people 'stuck' inside a building. We've done it only once now so we're not sure how it works in practice but I just hoped you wouldn't make the page so that it looks like the tactic is a piece of trash. Generaloberst 21:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm standing inside the one you have done. It's been repaired for awhile now. --Kirsty Org XIII Alts 21:22, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm aware you're inside the Tebbett building. Corn has done that one though, not me. Generaloberst 21:25, March 2012 (UTC)
Retaken by Corn. :) Generaloberst 11:52, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

"Shitskrieg is an NPOV page you can all edit it. oh wait no i'll hound anyone who fixes how shit it is sorry" = oberst DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:34, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

It's not shit. You are just jealous that you couldn't invent it yourself. All you do on this wiki is mocking around how dumb other people are. I'm pretty sure my IQ is higher than yours. Just go do something useful with your life, kid. Though I'm pretty sure I'll get some kind of ironic response again now. Generaloberst 11:31, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Don't tell other people to do something with their lives when it's obvious the only thing you do with your life revolves around a text-based game. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 12:02, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Haha. I think I have achieved more in my life than most of you here. Generaloberst 13:01, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Keep telling yourself that. Icon rolleyes.gif --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:59, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Such as? -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 18:50, 19 March 2012
jealous that i'm not an emotionally backward butthurt neo nazi that encourages cheating in the only game he plays, nice one DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 22:43, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I do enjoy you randoms on my page. to respond to the original point, I've rewritten the section again, in order to clear up some of the issues raised. --Rosslessness 16:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

'Think this is pretty good. Blitzkrieg takes less AP to maintain. Takes more AP to set up most of the time too, though. Generaloberst 06:21, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

It makes sense now... :O

(diff | hist) . . User talk:Rosslessness‎; 20:32 . . (+666) . . Rosslessness (Talk | contribs | block) (→Sitzkrieg: )

Ross is the devil. :O --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm the guy who goes into the 7-11 to get him a pack of cigarettes. --Rosslessness 21:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Beezlbublessness? ~Vsig.png 04:52, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Teh Prom Page

The general... um... no.

Shorty. A good sort, but I have problems with his (lack of) contributions. To few telling us what he wants the wiki to be, and many just following teh rules -- boxy 14:40, 29 March 2012 (BST)

Did I not email you? I'm more in support of shortround but can agree with the decision, as for general, I think you've covered everything that needs to be said. Frankly the less attention the better. --Rosslessness 17:58, 29 March 2012 (BST)
Sorry, it's a busy time of year, and I've been away from the keypad for about a week. Yeah, you emailed me, but I didn't check that account Icon rolleyes.gif. Replied now -- boxy 13:04, 5 April 2012 (BST)


Hey I'm not sure that this will influence your decision on shorty nor do I think it really should but I want to throw this out there. As you may have noticed, I'm about half way out the door right now. Soon it will likely come to a point where I won't really need the buttons any more and I'll request them to be taken away. Just a heads up to both you and box so there's no surprises later. I respect both your opinions and if you don't think its a good time to promote another sysop now, so be it. The rest of my opinion is there on the prom page and its talk page so no need for me to bring it up again. Cheers. ~Vsig.png 16:51, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, don't know if it's actually over or not but I would at this point change my objection since he's active and there's plenty of things for him to ban. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:18, 29 March 2012 (BST)
^^. but if you want vapor replaced just promote me, douchebags ;D DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:19, 30 March 2012 (BST)

Misanthropy and Vapor

Please demote them both. Mis is already over time and Vapor stated he wants to be demoted on the same day. Generaloberst 13:32, 8 April 2012 (BST)

Strangely enough, I've got to double check with the other Crat about Mis' demotion. Its this crazy process. --Rosslessness 13:42, 8 April 2012 (BST)
GO ROGUE We're coming to get you, Barbara 15:24, 8 April 2012 (BST)
I just love you too much, you semi Irish cunt. --Rosslessness 15:54, 8 April 2012 (BST)
(>")> We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:17, 8 April 2012 (BST)

Summoning the witnesses

So I've heard you have some proof at hands? Go ahead, this case needs facts. -- Spiderzed 17:36, 11 April 2012 (BST)


Hello again Ross. I have a somewhat loaded question for you regarding building types for suburbs in Unemplementia. In regards to types of locations on suburbs, are there any requirements or limits on what should and shouldn't be included? If that doesn't make sense, which it probably doesn't, here's a different approach to the question.

So currently, I'm redoing all of my custom suburbs and going with a different approach to it, BUT I dunno if I should refrain from placing buildings that aren't of real "use" in a zombie apocalypse. Like vet clinics for example. Who's gonna find time to take Fido to the vet to get his shots when zombies are around? Or coffee shops and cafes; who's going to find anything of use besides coffee for RP reasons in a coffee shop in a post-zombie-apocalypse? No one, but I'm trying to decide if I should only include buildings like book stores, police departments, hospitals, and the such, because if I do, it would seriously decrease the size of my town (which isn't a bad thing) and I don't want to infringe on creativity.

I guess what I'm trying to say is should I just go with it and create fully-fledged towns with locations that wouldn't be of real use, or just limit it to what's useful or am I just over-thinking this? Thoughts? --TheBardofOld 17:59, 13 April 2012 (BST)

Also, is there any chance of myself being able to revise your Mount Grim suburb? I'd like to incorporate a few things into my town...give it a bit of flavor, but it's not a problem if you decline. -- TheBardofOld 08:21, 28 April 2012 (BST)

We Need You

To rule on Oberst2 in A/VB. It's sitting at a draw and the General is mia. That leaves you, Axe, and Rev. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:59, 12 April 2012 (BST)

a/vb edit conflict

Not sure how that happened. We undid oberst's edit almost simultaneously and I somehome undid yours. I'll let you handle it. ~Vsig.png 17:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I hate saying this

But I told you so -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 13:00, 14 April 2012

I have to admit it, you Jews are the cleverest people out there. --Rosslessness 13:04, 14 April 2012 (BST)
i have to remove you from the pedestal I've placed you on. god is punishing me for worshiping false idols. also figures he pulls out just as i finally get an alt in the area to help out. typical. -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 13:07, 14 April 2012

Kill Stealer

I was just deleting Nazi Zombies when that red "already deleted" message popped up. I won't touch the sig and the user page for now, the former for breaking too much, the latter for posterity until active ops have chimed in on A/VB. Else, all pages created by Oberst have been killed, I have worked off his contribs and broswer-searched for new pages. -- Spiderzed 00:09, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Click on the what links here messages from the dead pages. We can remove the links as well. --Rosslessness 00:10, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Who's awesome?

You're awesome. You've always been a lot of help with page formatting and any questions I ever had about the wiki and I thank you for it. Keep rocking the wiki Ross! --TheBardofOld 01:05, 15 April 2012 (BST)


Just letting you know Karloth Vois's promotion bid has passed the two week discussion period and is due for bureaucrat review. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 12:04, 22 May 2012 (BST)

wow reminding other crats to be on time, that's rich and a half DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:37, 22 May 2012 (BST)
I do what I can, when I can! (And heck, I always appreciated the reminders.) ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 14:27, 22 May 2012 (BST)
Someone's got to throw a hissy fit every time there's some minor minor non-time precise requirement when Thad or you aren't around to do it. Otherwise the wiki might run .0001% less optimal. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 10:45, 23 May 2012 (BST)

Well done

Surprising how long its been since I wrote up the last update, and that no new players of note have found themselves in K-Bank. But it was a good write up, though not to be a grammar nazi, you should edit the clause: "as a result zombie break in happen almost daily". -- JD 04:23, 2 June 2012 (BST)


=D --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:27, 3 June 2012 (BST)

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