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RE:News Pages

You're doing it right. There's really no procedure. You just copy and paste the old news into the archive. That's pretty much all there is to it. As for time frames of archival, I suppose the best time would be once a month. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:05, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

None taken

I did say I was siding with you less, not completely siding with harrison. I guess you have to earn your place here a bit. I suppose it's because on a big, professional wiki like wikipedia, people come and go. On this wiki, people kinda build up relationships because of the small player base and drama that happens around here. At least, that's what I think. Anyway, if you have any more questions (or opinions), I'd be happy to hear them. The sysops are open to questions, too, as you can see from axe hack above. Think of this as my apology, explanation, welcome, and tips, all rolled into one. Have a nice stay on this wiki! -- †  talk ? f.u. 17:02, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

My comment was more aimed towards Sexual, because he seemed really actively angry about it. I totally get where you were coming from. :) Here's hoping that we can work together to make this a fun and helpful site.--Shortround 17:11, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
not angry, just annoyed. Tongue :P-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 19:05, 18 January 2012 (bst)


Of your question. --Rosslessness 17:13, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Anything like that, just shout. There's a lot of lazy sops around. --Rosslessness 18:23, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Yo, hey

Since you seem to be so intent on helping out, you could help with UDWiki:Projects/Very Funny...or Not. It's not getting as much traffic as it should (along with a lot of other pages on this wiki, anyway). I've taken the project over for now, but it's not going anywhere without votes. There's also a link in my sig. -- †  talk ? f.u. 14:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a look today when I get home from work. :) --Shortround 10:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Admin Page Cycling

Hey sorry about the revert. I didn't realize immediately what you were up to. Thought you were just removing the vote since it had closed. We have a newish admin page cycle method which is outlined here. This method does preclude users without "teh buttons" from cycling things, however.

See some discussion here for the thought process behind going with this method. I'm glad to see someone taking the initiative, though. You're the only person, sysop or otherwise, besides myself and Axe hack that has shown any interest in it for more than a year now.

Since you've already done most of the work, we can just go with what you've done today for this month's archives. Thanks for the help. ~Vsig.png 23:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I looked at the archived pages from December and tried to see what had happened with them so that I could do the same for January. :P --Shortround 10:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

spambit hunting

hey when you replace the content of a spam page. use {{BP}} or {{spambot}} to replace the content with. makes it easier to spot. also have you checked out this page? -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 15:21, 2 February 2012 (bst)

Nospam.gif Spambit Hunter
This user hunts spambits for fun and profit.
Thanks! Didn't know there was a template. And yeah, I saw the page, but I'm not really that competitive a guy, and I wouldn't dare to challenge your monopoly. :D --Shortround 16:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
we all stopped counting ages ago. it just adds to the fun a little is all.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 17:06, 2 February 2012 (bst)
=) --Shortround 17:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


I have good reason. --Krazyxman 19:57, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

My name is Short round. You killed my red link. Prepare to die.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 11:16, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
u can ask for it to be deleted again or just use <span style="color:Red">Shortround</span> which gives you Shortround -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 12:16, 25 February 2012 (bst)
No, I'm working on a badass userpage to spite the world for making me come in to work at 9 in the morning. DEAR GOD THE DIVS...--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage... ingeniusly awesome. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 12:44, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

<3 --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:44, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
just so ya'know, my "friendship" does not come cheap. just ask axe.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 15:02, 25 February 2012 (bst)
It comes with a lot of death threats involving tossing me in front of the 7 train on the NYC's subway line. >_> --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:03, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this is very clever too! --  AHLGTG 16:23, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I have returned!... to say that I agree with these idiots. And that makes me another idiot. Seriously, I couldn't resist. -- †  talk ? f.u. 16:25, 20 April 2012 (BST)

Thanks! :D --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:35, 21 April 2012 (BST)


:D-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 16:08, 6 March 2012

<3--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 16:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Emot-hurr.gif -- boxy 02:00, 7 March 2012 (BST)

status unknown

If updating Mall statuses or other building statuses as unknown after a period of time, you can always give Template:Un a go. Just do {{Un|Safe|15/03/2012}} if {{{1}}} is the last status and {{{2}}} is the date it was made. Not mandatory obviously. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I had a look and it seems a lot less "personal" as it were. I think having a message to update if possible is really important, but I'll probably try to work this in on future attempts. Something like the message followed by a message to update or something. Or I could be lazy and not change my terrible ways.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 13:43, 31 March 2012 (BST)

Good thing

...that someone has finally caught ye olde Misanthropy A/RE. Now if someone would do the same with ye olde promotion bids...

Speaking of which, sometimes between next week and in a month you will have reached the couple of months mark since your most recent bid. I still think you need to turn a bit more visible on the opinion pages to have a chance. A/RE and A/D are a good start, but most people are going to be most interested into your opinion on A/VB cases before they give you the power to rule there. Especially contested cases like Generaloberst (2) and (3) are good for talk page commenting. -- Spiderzed 15:25, 30 April 2012 (BST)

Thanks! I'll make sure to comment on those talk pages when controversial cases come up, but as I said before I don't really see a purpose when I don't have anything interesting or unique to contribute and those were pretty straightforward cases where I agreed with the majority rule. :P I'll think critically of cases as they come up.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 15:27, 30 April 2012 (BST)
Oh wait, Oberst 2 was the really weird one wasn't it? Don't know how I feel about it. We have pretty clear case law against racism and it's TOS, so would have made sense for that to be vandalism. Commenting on a closed case after Karek told him not to is probably only soft warning territory.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 15:32, 30 April 2012 (BST)
Case #2 might not be as clear and shut as you might think. Racism has been handled quite inconsistent in the past, as has been the handling of the TOS. We had escalations like this, this or this, but also soft warnings like this, and even unpunished moves like that.
As for A/VB commenting in general, it is generally expected that sys-op candidates show their stance towards and knowledge of the more sensitive wiki rules that might get users escalated - it is the power that needs to be executed most responsibly, and the one power most users are wary of before they grant the buttons to anyone. Vandal Banning and Misconduct commenting are just the best way to do that. -- Spiderzed 15:53, 30 April 2012 (BST)
When it comes to the cases you cited as going against the precedent: (1) The Misanthropy Case: There's a fairly large distinction between the two (although personally the Mis case kind of looks like vandalism). (2) The Cornholioo case was closed by Boxy with the following ruling: "I've given him a soft warning, any more of this on admin pages, and it's warning/ban time". Oberst 2 is the clear continuation of that behaviour (even if he wasn't Cornholioo he's made clear he was intimately familiar with Cornholioo's VB history. The two cases you cited make it clear that persistent behaviour is what gets punished and Oberst had done it consistently without a doubt.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 16:00, 30 April 2012 (BST)
hate quoting the prick.. but give him the gas?-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 16:07, 30 April 2012
Precisely, lol.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 16:51, 30 April 2012 (BST)
The proxy debate in May looks promising too. Speaking of May, there is still the monthly cycling of admin pages, with the added challenge of users having created May cases in the April version. I'll wait till the end of the day with cycling to give you a chance to tackle them. -- Spiderzed 13:15, 1 May 2012 (BST)
Funny you should mention "cycling". First class of the day is canceled, and here I am, sitting in the campus's computer lab, just about to cycle everything. Of course, if Shortround wishes to tackle it, he's got 20 minutes to start. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:33, 1 May 2012 (BST)
Time's up. Everything has been cycled. Time to run off to my next class. See ya! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:12, 1 May 2012 (BST)
I was going to do it earlier but last time I tried it resulted in me being unable to do the vast majority and needing a sysop anyway. I thought it would be easier for a sysop to just do the whole thing. :P I'll have a go next time maybe.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:31, 1 May 2012 (BST)
You don't really need a SysOps. Just use the old school copy and paste method. That's what we used before this...Page Move method, which I still find quite complicated... >_> --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:38, 1 May 2012 (BST)
Its really not that complicated, Axe. Its so easy I did it from my phone once. You just got to get past the initial "omgbuttons" road block in your head. Once you do it twice, you'll be happy you did. ~Vsig.png 02:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

On monday you will have reached the 2 months mark since initializing your first bid. Do you think that you would be good to go by then? -- Spiderzed 18:20, 8 May 2012 (BST)

Meh. Give it a while. I'll do it when people feel that I'm ready.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 18:33, 8 May 2012 (BST)
Up to you. Most users just put more trust into nominations by existing sys-ops, then into self-nominations. -- Spiderzed 23:29, 8 May 2012 (BST)
I'm not too bothered. I have faith that the bureaucrats will judge me on my merit and won't weigh too heavily any opinions of "he wasn't proposed by a sysop".--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 00:52, 9 May 2012 (BST)
D'you know, after having cleared 2 days of spambot backlog and cycling deletions that have been overdue since friday, I have decided that the time to do something is now. Now go and accept your nomination. -- Spiderzed 18:21, 13 May 2012 (BST)
OK. Made some new spambot requests for you in the meantime.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 06:53, 14 May 2012 (BST)


for fixing my recruit ad! Jesus Sante CFT 04:03, 1 May 2012 (BST)

I just do the categories. :P --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 10:51, 1 May 2012 (BST)

How's PKing?

You still at it? Once you reach level 10 or so, stop by the FOD forum if you're interested in joining a group. There's pai. ~Vsig.png 00:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

There's cake over at Organization XIII. I'm serious, there really is cake. One of our members is named Agent Cake. She's actually very sweet tasting. So as you can see, the cake is not a lie, as others would have you believe it is. Plus, we welcome anyone of any levels. In fact, through acts of selflessness, we offer to give any kills made to any member in need of XP. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:11, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Sure if hand holding and kumbaya are you're thing. Or you could earn your place in infamy, like the terror inducing Killer Scarecrow who earned his bloody reputaion 1/2 XP at a time, or Rob "fat fingers" Oppenheimer, Destroyer of Words, who scoff at the idea of pity kills. Your call, though. ~Vsig.png 01:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Now now, everybody knows that nobody is perfect. Organization XIII members are Nobodies, therefore, we're perfect. :P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:32, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Columbine Kids and cobra are where the cool kids hang out-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 11:22, 3 May 2012
Maybe I should hold some kind of talent contest to determine who I join? ;) But seriously, I'm only level 8 or so at the moment and I'm still getting together some of the important skills, so we'll see as soon as I'm in shape.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:28, 3 May 2012 (BST)
I will also stand behind the Cobra motion. Of course, there is always freelance stuff... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:38, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Our wall of victims speaks volumes. 1000 in under 7 months. And speaking from some experience, manhunting is a decidely survivor oriented sport for which the sun has already set. Events such as Red October must now evolve. We may be on the threshhold of a new dawn for PKers in Urban Dead. And the revolution will be televised. ~Vsig.png 15:03, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
A wall of victims is meaningness. Not everything is about quantity. It's quality that counts, and you can't get better quality than a group that is doing the game right by keeping the player base balanced, and thus, the game more fun. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:42, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Which of these groups is more organised?--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 17:29, 3 May 2012 (BST)
I think that's a bit of an equal matchup there. 'Cause every group listed above have numerous players in the PK Meta. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:41, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Well I'm lazy so whichever group involves me logging on and killing some arbitrary people is what I'll go for.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 18:26, 3 May 2012 (BST)
That's pretty much every group. If you're lazy, Organization XIII is the group best suited for you. It's a stationary group, unlike FoD, Cobra, and CK, so no hassle of rushing to a new suburb. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:39, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Can't speak for the other groups but FOD is very organized. Arbitrary kills are welcome but our things is stomping on the more deserving survivor groups or individuals of Malton. And there are many.if you're lazy, then it may not be for you because we like dedicated members. You don't really strike me as a lazy person, though which is why I asked. ~Vsig.png 19:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
When I'm playing a game, I play it casually for fun, when I'm working I obviously work hard. You've seen the "work hard" side of me, but in game I generally just kill random people and do whatever because the purpose of a game is to relax and have fun. :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 20:02, 3 May 2012 (BST)
O13's MO is to make the game more fun. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:09, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Pking may not be for you after all, then. Casual PKers are dead PKers. Same can be said for stationary PKers. We all start somewhere, though. ~Vsig.png 21:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Stationary is a plus with Organization XIII. We are, after all, what one would call a quadruple nature group. It's another plus that O13 is dedicating itself to make one specific area of Malton a constant back-and-forth warzone. One small highly contested area means more people drawn to the area, which means more chaos, and ultimately, more fun. 'Cause lets face it. What UD needs is a smaller playing area. More contest in one designated area means we've already succeeded. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:14, 3 May 2012 (BST)
Oh lordy. The art of PK'ing sure ain't what it used to be when the three stooges here are the ones giving advice on the subject. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 18:03, 3 May 2012 (BST)
It really is a sad time for PKing, isn't it. BHing ain't much better off, though. Tongue :P. ~Vsig.png 19:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Ah hell, don't get me started on that lot. You can count the only good ones left on Abu Hamza's right hand. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 20:49, 3 May 2012 (BST)
What the fuck is the world coming to when me and Kempy agree on something? One of the signs of impending Misconbitragnarok, ain't it? ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 19:23, 4 May 2012 (BST)

OK, let's cut this short. Shortround, here's what you'll get from each group. FoD, CK, and Cobra, despite their differences, are more interested in their kill counts. O13, sure they're counting their kills as well, but as Malton's only side swapping group, their current theme is utilizing the side swapping methods to create confusion amongst survivor groups, a bit of "who's side are you really on?" thing. Completely different than AZDC in which they have a different theme each week. The Organization plays both sides for fools at the same time. Heck, AZDC technically bastardized the Organization's theme. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:14, 3 May 2012 (BST)

How is it a bastardization if it is completely different? AZDC is about embracing every aspect of the game and because we're selfish and want to play the game our own way. It couldn't be any more different from Org13. ~Vsig.png 19:43, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
It kinda is. Sure, AZDC is more random, but take away AZDC's randomness, and O13's ratio based style, the theme is not different. They're two groups sharing a theme (and in a few irc chat logs on my phone, Meeso did state they drew some inspiration from the concept of O13's ratio based play, so yes. AZDC is a basterdized O13). --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:50, 3 May 2012 (BST)
I see your fuzzy logic, and raise you a good kick in the nuts.~Vsig.png 21:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Groups with shifting playing-style - older than dirt. In other news, I recommend Cobra (the one that has actually any players left), but that should hardly surprise Tongue :P -- Spiderzed 21:27, 3 May 2012 (BST)
O13 has 13 members, 11 are active, and only 9 are using the tag. If we cut outthe impostors impersonating my Cobra alt, it will technically make Organization XIII the third biggest PKer group, right behind the PK and FoD. Join now, Shortround, or you might miss out on what might become the next big thing. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:36, 3 May 2012 (BST)
But if I joined then there wouldn't be 13 members of Organisation 13 any more! We wouldn't want that, would we?--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 02:13, 4 May 2012 (BST)
WARNING!!! NERD ALERT!!! In the Kingdom Hearts series, there was 14 members in Organization 13, although the 14th member was a replica, or a clone, and thus wasn't actually counted. Also, the original Organization XIII was defeated in Kingdom Hearts 2, however, a new Organization XIII rises to power in Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance, which only has 3 of the original members. Therefore, counting the uncounted 14th member, Organization XIII has a total of 24 members, not 13. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:28, 4 May 2012 (BST)
Hack, if you thought so little of the FOD, why did you try to join us? Regardless, I don't see what all the fuss here is over a level 8 player. If he reaches level 10 and wants to roll with the FOD, he can go through the process and earn his place on the 'roster' like everyone else. If that's too much, ORGXIII will gladly take him as has been made abundantly clear. Nothing personal Shortround. I just don't see what all the fuss is about. --Hibernaculum 04:11, 4 May 2012 (BST)

Axe, I'll concede that AZ/DC was partially inspired by Org13, as well as countless other dual-nature groups. But I would also like to point out that the only thing our two groups have in common is changing allegiances sometimes (sometimes AZ/DC doesn't help either side), so please don't call us a bastardization. I concur with hibernaculum. Shortround, you should go ahead and join Axe's group. He wants you real bad. He wants your lithe, supple Asian body snuggling deep inside of his tight, round little group. Don't be afraid, Axe is great with kids :) --RadicalWhig 05:07, 4 May 2012 (BST)

Asian?--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 11:58, 4 May 2012 (BST)

This looks fun. -- †  talk ? f.u. 06:00, 4 May 2012 (BST)

So guys, basically I reckon I'm going to remain groupless for the time being. All these groups seem fun, but they seem like they'll be a lot of effort and I'd rather put that effort in to killing people and improving the wiki. So I'm going to do those things instead. :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 11:58, 4 May 2012 (BST)

This was the worst thing I took the time to read half of. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:09, 4 May 2012 (BST)

@hib: I don't think little of FoD, but it's quite obvious FoD is more focused on the quantity of it's kills (as is Cobra and CK, although Cobra, unlike CK and FoD, is a bit more casual, according to Kirsty Cotton, which is kinda true). Yea, sure, you've got a great theme and all, succeeding groups of old such as ASS, and sure, you've got achievements (although most groups have those as well), but it's not always about quantity. Quality counts too (one of your members PKing someone when they were lower than Lv10 seems a bit poor quality there, even if they did sport Fallen Saints tags. Of course then again, I trampled on that quality part a few times myself, but usually only when they were in the way towards something a bit bigger). I honestly don't care which group Shortround joins, but if we're gonna fight over him for recruitment purposes, of course I'll join in the fight. Ultimately, it's his choice. If he wants to take on large scale group strikes, he should join CK or FoD. If he doesn't want to travel, OrgXIII. If he just wants to casually kill for the hell of it, Cobra or Phobia. If he wants to fight for knowledge, Philosophe Knights. If he wants to party, Red Rum (or whatever the hell they're going by these days now that the RR tag is historical). The choices are almost endless. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:51, 4 May 2012 (BST)

Give it a rest, Axe. We aren't pandering to shortround. If he wants to join FOD, he can wait until he's a few levels higher and try out like everyone else. If he's any good, he'll have a better chance than you. Now tuck that peen back in and wave it somewhere else before I decide to castrate you and make you teabag yourself. Why you hitting yourself? Why you hitting yourself? Why you hitting yourself? ~Vsig.png 15:33, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Guys maybe you could discuss this somewhere else rather than on my talk page. I genuinely just wanted to know the pros and cons of some of the groups and the only result of this now is that I don't want to join any of your groups.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 16:04, 4 May 2012 (BST)
So,you have taste. I approve. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 19:24, 4 May 2012 (BST)
Thank fuck you came to the rescue with a decent punchline Rev cos this joke was going nowhere. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 20:16, 4 May 2012 (BST)

And to think, I invited you to join my group Tongue :P. Actually, looking back at this conversation, I'm glad you declined. Wow, did I actually tell Axe I'd make him teabag himself? I really shouldn't have stopped smoking pot all those years ago. ~Vsig.png 03:12, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


why to edit conflict me just as I'm doing it! grrrr -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 02:22, 3 May 2012

=D:D=D:D --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:31, 3 May 2012 (BST)

Nice edit comment

Now for the love of all that is good and holy, DO A BARREL ROLL!!! Yoyo0 20:10, 4 May 2012 (BST)


Just saying..... --Rosslessness 17:24, 31 May 2012 (BST)

Aichon already did it... :P --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 17:24, 31 May 2012 (BST)
Excellent. In that case, question. As a new sysop, do you need a misconduct archive? --Rosslessness 17:28, 31 May 2012 (BST)
Not until somebody makes a misconduct case against me as I understand it?--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 17:29, 31 May 2012 (BST)
Wow. You are good. --Rosslessness 17:34, 31 May 2012 (BST)
Is that an invitation? :P Aichon 17:37, 31 May 2012 (BST)
Totally --Rosslessness 17:56, 31 May 2012 (BST)

Congrats. If you're interested in doing admin pages cycling and need some help, give me a toot. There's some instructions floating around somewhere. ~Vsig.png 17:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, you should hop on IRC and go to #udwiki. It's usually a quick and easy way to get in touch with another sysop (Revenant and Axe Hack are regulars), or else for people to get in touch with you in cases of vandalism that needs immediate attention. Aichon 17:53, 31 May 2012 (BST)
And also strangely, somewhere I've never been. Although you should go. --Rosslessness 17:55, 31 May 2012 (BST)
You've done a lot to ensure that the things you do are in the public eye. Not making yourself available on IRC is part of that, and there's a certain value in it. There's also a value in being accessible, particularly if time is sensitive or the person isn't a wiki user. Aichon 18:00, 31 May 2012 (BST)
I cannot disagree with any of that. Head over shorty, and pick the brains of the guys there. Also, Im pretty sure Aichon has some excellent reading material for you. --Rosslessness 18:04, 31 May 2012 (BST)
I do? The only thing I've got is my So you want to be a sysop? guide. The end of it has a lot of valuable stuff that continues to apply after a person is a sysop, of course. Otherwise, I'd suggest he hit up your NOT so secret diary of a sysop, Ross. Aichon 18:36, 31 May 2012 (BST)
I might turn up in irc. I'm not much of an irc person and I only really come online for brief periods a lot of the time so we'll see. :) I'll definitely read through the guides though.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 13:15, 1 June 2012 (BST)

Additional generic SysOps "Welcome to the team" message, Shortround. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:19, 31 May 2012 (BST)

<3-- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 20:02, 1 June 2012 (BST)

=) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 23:26, 1 June 2012 (BST)

You are disturbingly good. Want some more jobs? --Rosslessness 13:06, 3 June 2012 (BST)

Sure go ahead. Work isn't too bad at the moment so I'll be popping on a bit more and I'll deal with things as I have time.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:08, 3 June 2012 (BST)

Belated congratulations from me as well. Now I know that things will be in good hands while I'm indisposed. -- Spiderzed 19:30, 3 June 2012 (BST)


Hi there Short. I was looking for an Executive Boating Safety Director for NecroTechnicolor. No need to produce an alt or anything, it's actually completely pointless. So, your thoughts? --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 04:23, 16 June 2012 (BST)

You definitely want in, Shortround. This is an opportunity you shouldn't pass up! Aichon 04:25, 16 June 2012 (BST)
Ya. You even get a paycheck from Kirsty. It's mostly Monopoly money. :P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 04:37, 16 June 2012 (BST)
What would it entail? What are the perks? I'm just busy at work for a couple of days, then I'll be able to take your silly offer seriously. --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 07:42, 16 June 2012 (BST)
Practically no obligation on your part. You would gain an executive parking spot and would officially be made of chocolate henceforth. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 14:23, 16 June 2012 (BST)
Don't forget the paycheck of $750000 a month. In Monopoly money. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:14, 16 June 2012 (BST)
Sure, just so long as I'm allowed to eat myself! :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 00:33, 17 June 2012 (BST)
Thanks and unlike some previous associates, I won't completely erase your existence between movies. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 05:02, 17 June 2012 (BST)

stay the hell outta miltown.

leave that page be. you have 99 other suburbs to be a ninny about.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 04:09, 2 July 2012

derp. Sorry I forgot you like something on the page. Keep posting news and there won't be a problem I guess. ;) In all seriousness, I'll try to remember not to leave it blank in the future.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:20, 2 July 2012 (BST)


Why did you protect this page again? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:26, 7 July 2012 (BST)

Derp. Must have been protecting the archive and accidentally bulked the main page as well. Feel free to misconduct me.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 11:04, 7 July 2012 (BST)
If it were intentional, sure considering it was documented as an issue last time we tried to do something involving protection and subtemplate editing. If it were just a mistake during archival then nah. A/M is for judgement clause and SNOWBALL failures/misapplication. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 20:18, 8 July 2012 (BST)
I agree, which is why I didn't make a case myself. Just didn't want to demand that you didn't when I was technically in the wrong. :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 00:15, 9 July 2012 (BST)


Thought I might pointy out that the page you just added to the category "groups" might be misleading. I am pretty sure that "the band Styx" is a user page that corresponds to an in-game character of the same name who performs concerts throughout Malton. He is not a group ... though he plays one in UD. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Tuesday, 14 August 2012

yes but for the purpose of in game context he is a group - it's just a group with only one member role-playing a larger group. The category seems sound to me but change it if you disagree.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 17:54, 14 August 2012 (BST)
Oh, so I can recreate Revenant and slap Category:Groups on it and I'll be golden? Ta muchly! Tongue :P ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 09:32, 20 August 2012 (BST)
No.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:58, 20 August 2012 (BST)

music lol DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:27, 15 August 2012 (BST)


Man, your counting is terrible. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 22:45, 12 September 2012 (BST)

quiet you.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 11:18, 13 September 2012 (BST)
Also, there's a fairly simple reason why the category is empty. It's spelt wrong. Delete it. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 15:45, 20 September 2012 (BST)

Knock knock

--Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 19:25, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


IS ANYONE THERE? HEEEELLLLLLOOOOOO -- Spiderzed 19:35, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


i god damn knew it!-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 08:33, 24 November 2012

<3 --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:36, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for adding those categories to my images, I'll try and remember to add them myself from now on. PB&J 15:32, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

No problem. :D --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 15:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


I'd just like to say thanks for moving my Enemies list, I'd realised it was wrong but when I made it was wasn't quite so knowlageable. --Jerden 18:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

No problem. :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 00:28, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Implied Delete

The implication of deletion is based only on the fact that all the information is retained in the new merged location. You delete the house, because it's content has been moved to a new one. A page with 30 merge votes and no other votes for example, should be retained. --Rosslessness 17:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Like Move votes. You don't delete the old page until it's in the new location. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but the number of delete votes outnumbered the number of merge votes, as I made quite clear. Ah well, whatever, it isn't that important. --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 21:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
It kind of is, but I know what you mean. It's an interesting point of view and one I haven't considered. Merge votes are magic, because they aren't actually about whether the page is kept or not, which is what we're supposed to be voting on. --Rosslessness 21:59, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

i saw what you did.

so fuck you!-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 13:17, 11 January 2013

muhaha!--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 16:57, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

For your information

I was encouraged to use this account to post any comments/testimony on my behalf. Check my talk page and the vandal/banning page if you don't believe me. I'm not going to stoop so low as to beg you to reconsider your vote, but I assure you my case is special, you're uninformed, and if I'm not mistaken I have no qualms with you and in fact do not even know you. So, with all due respect, wtf? Kitakaze 01:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I've never seen anyone that needs this more. --K 01:17, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
How not to dig yourself a massive fucking hole every time you approach the keyboard A ZOMBIE ANT 00:35, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Is your comment directed at me?--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 02:43, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Nup, Izumi. A ZOMBIE ANT 09:26, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Oh SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
That may have come across more harshly than I intended it to. But My point remains valid. I've never done anything to offend you, Shortround, unless I am forgetting something? Why would you vote to keep me banned, mister? Huh? Why? ='(
I'm not here to cause trouble, I was kind of a bitch a few years ago, I admit it, but I'm not anymore. I just want to have fun just like everyone else here. Let me have that chance, that's all I ask. Kitakaze 01:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Come on, don't be that way! =( How exactly is throwing me under the bus going to benefit you? It's not! You're just doing it to be mean. Please reconsider? Let's be friends! You know you wanna! Kitakaze 02:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

You're right. I come home from a hard day of work and log on to this wiki about a game. "Hmm, who shall I ban today?" Only then can I find satisfaction; in ruining the ability of others to post on a wiki about a text based game about zombies! Mwahaha, the marginal pains that I cause them shall never cease to please my ailing soul.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 04:37, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
is so much win ^^-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 13:25, 19 February 2013
What's even better is using sarcasm to say what he is actually doing, " ruining the ability of others to post on a wiki about a text based game about zombies." You go big man. --K 22:10, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
As someone who got along with and had many discussions with Grim I can endorse the fact that, should this statement be truthful(which I have no reason to doubt), that Shortround must be a Grim alt. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
no way. grim would never be friends with axe.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 13:29, 20 February 2013
Am I friends with axe? I don't think I'm around enough to be friends with anyone here.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 03:32, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

you fucking basterd.

good one! axe really could learn a thing or too from you.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 02:35, 7 March 2013

<3 --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 02:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I am so pleased you did this. You proved you're actually a funny person too, which was no easy feat (also pleased you stayed in some form, chucking a tantrum after the blatantly corrupt sysops case sucked) A ZOMBIE ANT 07:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Seriously. I was inactive during whatever happened then, and I regretted not being around whenever you disappeared. Finding out you were still around was a nice discovery. Aichon 07:45, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
=D I'm only getting demoted now so that my new account can get broken in as a sysop!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:04, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
True, can't be a proper Op if you haven't been demoted.--SA 14:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Also, totally not sure how I missed Kirsty's case on A/M.--SA 14:59, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

So, essentially, Shortround doesn't exist anymore as a unique person. That means Yon killed a unique person. Is anyone going to tolerate this? Or are we going to let this slide? Is that how it works? --  AHLGTG 20:26, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Untrue. An individual is only as much as they can conceive themselves to be and is therefore defined by their conceptions of themselves. Shortround, never having been independent of me, never had the ability to actualise his own sentience of being. It's impossible for him to have lost that sentience, as he never attained it in the first place. Shortround exists in much the same way as he always did, similar to a political concept or a can of bread.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:25, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
But from my perspective (conception), Shortround was a separate, unique individual. Other people had these conceptual Shortrounds in their heads too. This additive effect is much larger than simply your conception of the Yon-Shortround. You killed [the] Shortround[s] [in my head and everyone else's except yours]. I'm going to get you put away for a very long time for this. Murderer. --  AHLGTG 21:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Your head is full of people? Strange. Mine is filled with delicious caramilk...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:53, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
i just thought of something.. did you use both accounts on any single vote? i'm not accusing you of anything. just wondering.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 04:25, 12 March 2013
No, I wasn't editing with them at the same time. The last edit on this account was at 13:35, 24 November 2011 and my first edit on the Shortround account was at 00:13, 24 November 2011 to update a danger report. The second was after I stopped editing as Yonnua Koponen at 13:45, 24 November 2011. I didn't resume using the Yonnua Koponen account until the demotion request.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 04:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Can't say you didn't cut it fine... A ZOMBIE ANT 23:05, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
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