User talk:The Goth Store Owner

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Welcome!

Hi The Goth Store Owner! I saw you recently joined UDWiki and wanted to welcome you on behalf of Project Welcome! If you have any questions or need any help, don't hesitate to contact me at my talk page. Have a great day! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:56, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Bob. Looking forward to it. Now just have to do a minor eidt for someone making false claims. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Goth Store Owner (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Sure! One other note: Make sure, when you leave a message on a talk page, to leave your full signature including timestamp. This is easy to do — just type four tildes (~~~~) or click the Sign.png button above the edit pane. Thanks! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:33, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Will do! Listen, I have an issue. I've been running the Goth Store in Ackland since I created this toon because there was nobody else minding the store. Has it was empty for awhile before that, which is why I mae the character. And I was surprised it was available ingame as well as on here! Anyone the person tagged to this page from a very long time ago hadn't been around at all> he only came back when I updated the page and now is trying to push me out.

It's a public page. I have just as much right to claim ownership as he does. Or maybe its a she I dunno. Anyway, he has been pking me with his goth store toon and had alt Eugene Leonhardt even continue to do it daily hopinhg to get rid of me. It wont work and I want equal representation on the Goth Store page. I thought about it and I dont have a right to erase he-she from existnece so maybe someone can put us both on there and list the ownership as contested. Im hesitant to fiddle with it too much yet until Im sure Ill get it right. I have no desire to ruin the page.

Also I suspect the RealSiege22 is a alt account. Seems to know way too much for a new account on here. The Goth Store Owner (talk) 00:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I had another thought too. If Goth Store Owner is female and it seems so then we can be the male and female co owners. just a good idea i think. thx The Goth Store Owner (talk) 00:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

A couple of notes:
  • I'm not a sysop at the moment so I'm trying not to intervene in this, just offer general advice.
  • The Goth Store page is technically the page of a group, not a location. Therefore, whoever founded the original group is generally considered to control the page. Your best bet to resolve the conflict is to declare a new group, maybe with a name like "The New Goth Store", and leave the old page to the old group.
  • People are technically allowed to make multiple wiki accounts, and occasionally do for roleplay purposes — the exceptions are using multiple accounts to vote or comment on things (sockpuppetry), and that vandalism by one account will cause repercussions for all accounts.
  • In-game zerging, or accusations thereof, are specifically not dealt with by the wiki staff, so any issues around it aren't that pertinent to the page ownership. If you have an issue with zerging, your best bet is to contact in-game groups to help you.
Thanks. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. However the person claiming to be the goth store owner is not the page creator, so he has no more right than i do to claim it. His name is RealSiege22 sounds alot like an in game pker of me called The Real Spad. Both are ZHU on my contact lists. Just too coincidental. The Goth Store Owner (talk) 01:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC) So if I cannot have my name then neither can he right? I mean he's talkijng like he is speaking for goth store owner 3rd person on his user page so he has even less right to claim or modify my edit. I can prove I am The Goth Store OWner. I ll meet someone anywhere in game to prove it. Seems like this guy is pretneding not to be goth storre owner because i think he zerg cheats so if he isnt the goth store owner then the goth store owner has to come fight the claim themself right? sorry forgot to tag The Goth Store Owner (talk) 01:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

"He has no more right than I do to claim it" — correct, he has no right, and you have no right. Please do not mess with a page for a group that has been inactive since 2009. The page has been repeatedly reverted (by RealSiege, boxy & Aichon) to its last version, exactly as it was before you edited it. Like I said above, if you want to claim to run the goth store, make a new group page, or simply put it on your personal userpage. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Official warning and proxy addresses banned

As per this case, I have banned the proxy IP addresses you were editing from. Users are not allowed to edit from proxy IPs on this wiki, and while the act of doing so is not in and of itself considered vandalism, we do ban proxies as we see them, and we do treat the use of proxies as an indication that the person has something to hide. If we later discover that you've been using them to hide your real identity and that you've been warned against such behavior in the past, we will not hesitate to treat your actions as vandalism, since we would no longer have a basis for believing that you're a newbie acting in good faith.

Stop using proxies and leave pages alone if they are owned by others (as the one in question is). Consider this an official (soft) warning. Aichon 16:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi I didn't know I wasn't blocked use the pho.e. you blocked my dad's laptop and don't know what a proxy is. He lets me use his laptop to play but he has to log in first so maybe that's what you were talking about. I dunno. Anyway my brother and I share this phone so he uses it to play UD. I thought we had to use our separate devices to log in here like in the game. And we made those characters fair n square. He is new goth store owner and I am the goth store ownerwe made the new copies of characters and the are our alts. We don't impersonate so we want the user accounts unblocked to do character bios. I can provide the bio id's of you want to look at their descriptions. We are the bpells, bills, and others and made a name now les originals . We are them when somebody attacks us for no reason and then expose them around. My cousin plays with us too. And we make sure to let ppl know we aren't them. Why would we want to be. They're junk. We are clones, robots, future versions, and dopplegangers which like in d&d. So pls unlock our accounts. I have to go work on homework. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Goth Store Owner (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

If you are using your father's computer, it means he accesses the internet using a proxy, which is disallowed on the wiki. If you wish to use that device, please tell him not to use a proxy so that you can access this site.
Regarding the other accounts, those accounts are clearly impersonating wiki users who are already registered, and were reported by one of the impersonated users. If you want to make wiki accounts, please do so using new, original usernames & identities. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:43, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Settling issues on the Wiki

A few of your grievances with the Kilt Store page and with Real Siege can't be settled through the likes of Misconduct and probably not Vandal Banning, since this is a matter of opinions and in-game circumstances than wiki guidelines. I would suggest you prepare a case and try for Arbitration. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:31, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what that is and I have to go do homework now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Goth Store Owner (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

If you have a disagreement with a specific other user, Arbitration is a mechanism by which that disagreement can be resolved. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:45, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
I want to arbitrate this case if when it happens. --KCLZA 21:56, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism Policy & Cluttering Admin Pages

Hey Goth Store Owner, I'm gonna try one more time. Three things:

  • If you check out Vandalism Policy, you can see that "impersonating another user" is explicitly listed as vandalism, and creating user accounts with names clearly intended to be indistinguishable from existing users is considered impersonation.
  • No one is trying to "manipulate the game". The members of the wiki have zero control over your in-game accounts, only over your on-wiki accounts. Honestly, none of the administrators care about whether you (or anyone else) zergs in-game or not.
  • If you continue to clutter up A/VB and other administrative pages with flaming, rather than constructive edits, yet another such case may be brought against you. Cluttering administrative pages has been judged as vandalism before.

And please, keep further responses here, or if they have to go on A/VB keep them short and well-formatted. Remember to sign (just type ~~~~) at the end of your posts, and if you respond to someone's statement, add a colon (:) before each of your paragraphs to indent it. Thanks! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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