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Archived on 01:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

External Image Links

Thanks for your help:

"To link to an image you just use this format Image:Name of Image. - Vantar 06:04, 26 August 2007 (BST)"

Thing is, that doesn't seem to work. It works fine for internal links, but not for external ones. I always ends up looking exactly like what you see up there: a link, but the image doesn't load. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but I just can't seem to find any help that tells me how to do correctly. I'll continue digging and maybe I can "reverse engineer" some code somewhere... Cheers... --WanYao 21:19, 26 August 2007 (BST)

Aaaaaaah... Gotchya... I just didn't want to waste server space on it, so I figured I'd host it in my PhotoBucket. Thanks. --WanYao 23:31, 26 August 2007 (BST)

Moving Pages

Don't know if I should respond here or not. I wrote The Pescodside Incident with an alt of mine, I thought I was signed in as my alt but I guess not. Sorry about that.

- Thubin

No worries, I'm glad to know that someone actually checks that stuff out! :-D -Thubin

Mar 25, 2007 - Thanks for fixing that! - Alice Cuinn

no problem Vantar 19:18, 25 March 2007 (BST)

Think about the children

go ahead. Since this article is in the main namespace and not part of my user pages, the entire community can edit it now and move anywhere they think it would fit best. I would really appreciate some grammar there, since my english is not as great as i wish it to be :( --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 16:21, 29 April 2007 (BST)

Hartford Wrecking Crew deletion

Mar 25, 2007 - Hartford Wrecking Crew was speedy deleted and is still active. Is it possible to get the last update put back in place or do we have to start over? Thank you for your time. - Danno5 0

EN Rant page

Thank you for adding my bitching and moaning to the EN category. I meant to do it, but I suppose it slipped my mind. --Adrian Jeshua 21:42, 4 April 2007 (BST)

No problem, thanks for creating a category for your group, it makes what I do here so much easier. Vantar 21:47, 4 April 2007 (BST)


Thanks for pointing me to the UD Leaderboard, its what ive been trying to find. oh well ill kind of keep going with this and try to build on it. Me101 12:15, 16 April 2007 (BST)


When you add or modify building pages that begins with "The" or "Club", it'd be helpful if you set up the categories so they come up properly on the category pages like Museum Category Page and the suburbs pages. The Hibbert Museum is an example. Thanks for fleshing out the wiki! --Tekka Maki 16:26, 2 May 2007 (BST)

I saw your change to The Ive Museum and the category info was still not quite right. If you put the "The" at the beginning, it will show up under "T" instead of "I". You can look at my change to see what I mean. --Tekka Maki 18:45, 3 May 2007 (BST)
Yeah sorry about that, I had been dropping the sort key in categorizes such as Museums and Buildings for awhile, mostly because all the pages in those categories start with "The" so they will all be in alphabetical order anyway just all in the T section of the Category. As for the Ive museum, simple copy paste error I overlooked thanks for catching it, just out of curiosity why are you adding ",the" at the end of the category labels with the way that the buildings are all named you don't really need it. - Vantar 20:36, 3 May 2007 (BST)
I don't think it matters for the building pages but on the suburb pages, there could be a The Something Building and Club Something, and then it would be useful. It's not a big thing either way but it doesn't hurt to put in the extra characters. --Tekka Maki 19:45, 4 May 2007 (BST)

Zombies Unlimited

Thanks for categorizing the locations I did in relation to that group. Is there any reason I couldn;t also add other categories relating to the locations use? --Seb_Wiers VeM 20:44, 3 May 2007 (BST)

No problem, add as many categorizes as you want along they apply to that location.


Why are you creating pages, adding the templates, and leaving them? Aren't you supposed to finish them?--User:Axe27/Sig 20:38, 6 May 2007 (BST)

Right now I'm going thought the uncreated pages on List of Museums, I'm adding the location block and category information, a number of the people who collect the museum data have a tendency of leaving that stuff out when they are putting in the information about the museum type and until something major happens at these locations there is not much more to add about them - Vantar 20:49, 6 May 2007 (BST)
Alright,Thanks. --User:Axe27/Sig 20:56, 6 May 2007 (BST)

Fethed Computer

It's probably your power supply or your motherboard. Power supplies are cheap but tricky to put it, sorta, while you have to be very careful about replacing your motherboard. You should get the exact same model, hard with a 7 year old computer, or make sure all your stuff, especially your processor, will work with a new model you find. Also, replacing one is time-consuming and complicated. Of course, I only know this because of my power problems. Otherwise I wouldn't give a feth and thus know nothing. Stupid computers.--Lachryma 07:00, 13 May 2007 (BST)

Going only on the fact that it was been over 3 hours since my computer's last hissy fit I think I've fixed it, turns out it was a corrupt copy of Rainbow Six that was causing the shutdowns. If it happens again I'll look into power supplies. Thanks for your help, and grammartization of the safehouse supporter template. - Vantar 08:45, 13 May 2007 (BST)
Damn Tom Clancy, he must be in with the Commies to allow such a thing to happen....aaaaagh, "grammartization" isn't anywhere near a word! Anyway, glad to not help you! I hope I can continue my lack of service in the future!--Lachryma 08:49, 13 May 2007 (BST)

Chasing Tortoise?

Heh, is that you in Chasing Tortoise? It looks like you are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place =P - JedazΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 08:15, 13 May 2007 (GMT)

Yeah I just started, looks like I'm surrounded already - Vantar 09:21, 13 May 2007 (BST)
Yeah, well theres going to be a map re-set soon (hopefuly) so you'll have a better chance against other players (Like me and Maple =P). Just so you know Grey and Twik are inactive, so you don't have to worry about them attacking you. Anyway if you could make your way to the forums and leave your impressions of the game, what it could do with, or without, then I'm sure that the creator would be happy to get some new input. He's always looking for different view points on the game, and at the moment it's only really two people giving him ideas. Of course you don't have to, but it would be nice to at least consider. - JedazΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 08:34, 13 May 2007 (GMT)
Once I've played longer I'll hit up the forums and leave my imput. The game does look interesting. - Vantar 10:03, 13 May 2007 (BST)


Thank you for your help, appreciated it.

No problem - Vantar 11:26, 15 May 2007 (BST)


I totally forgot, sorry! Yes, I'll get back to it ASAP.--Labine50 MHG|MEMS|DHPD 21:06, 3 June 2007 (BST)

It's ok I was only trying to figure out if the lexicon is still alive, judging by your response I would say it has at least one active member right now - Vantar 21:23, 3 June 2007 (BST)
Make that two. I don't update often, but I do update. In fact, I wrote this a couple of nights ago. And I have a feeling that, just like last time, I'll end up finishing (I have one article left), then coming back to fill in the remaining missing articles. And just like last time, I'll be the one to tie everything together. X1M43 07:08, 4 June 2007 (BST)

D'oh! I totally zoned!! I'll get back on it! -- Nicks 17:33, 18 August 2007 (BST)

Page edit

Hi. El7Ham edited your page. He uses a type of that name, what serial vandalists use... -- /// goebiTalkHelp/LFS/SR/NT/MWP /// 11:39, 6 June 2007 (BST)

yeah I noticed but his edit seams to be in good faith so im not going to do anything about it.- Vantar
curious, He removes the + on pages and then messes with the links or blanks the page.-- Vista  +1  17:13, 7 June 2007 (BST)

Location Blocks

It's not pretty, but I hope it helps. If you notice a "***FILL IN***" let me know at what location that it occured at so I can fix it up. There are *alot* of variation on street titles (Grove, Plaza ect) and so I don't know if I got them all. Of course you may need to fill in the data yourself around special buildings, but for the most part it should make your life easier. Also let me know if there is anything that needs to be corrected (eg a School labled as a Street =P) - If Jedaz = 12:19, 18 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

WOW! This this rocks! You easily have saved my a few months of work with that thing. No major problems that I've found so far, but it dosen't seam to like generic locations like Factory 16,3. It enters it [[a factory(16,3)]] instead of [[Factory 16,3|a factory]] but even with that I can make a fully usable location block in under 30 seconds now.- Vantar 13:16, 18 July 2007 (BST)
Ah, thats easily fixable, that issue mainly came about because of my lack of knowledge about how the location blocks were done. Anyway before it was reporting a factory as just [[a factory]] which was less helpful. I'm glad that it helps so much. I'll let you know when I fix that, but for now, I'm going to sleep. - If Jedaz = 13:26, 18 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3
Farn excellent. A few minor tune ups needed (Dept => Department and St => St. for eg), but too easy! We'll get finished with the location blocks yet! -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 14:06, 18 July 2007 (BST)
Small bug with the categories, It adds an extra S to Arms to created the Category Armss and Categories that end in y get misspelled (Factorys instead of Factories), but still I just did half a suburb in 15 minutes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vantar (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.
Ah, ok then, well thats solved now. What are the generic locations anyway? At the moment I've got Carpark, Factory, Junkyard, Wasteland, and Cemetery, are there any others that I missed? If you notice any more abbreviations let me know so I can fix it up. - If Jedaz = 03:44, 19 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3
Warehouses too. Cathedrals gives a ***FILL THIS*** message in the color section, I think it should be substituted for "church" -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 04:26, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Alrighty, I've got those as well. Let me know if I missed anything else. By the way do we want to categorise the pages by suburb and building type as well eg [[Category:Dakerstown Warehouses]]? - If Jedaz = 06:46, 19 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3
That's a no to Dakerstown Warehouses Jed. The Category:Police Depts still needs to be changed to Category:Police Departments. Can we get some headers put in too, something like this (although take out the barricade policy and perhaps the current status, as it's not needed for empty blocks) -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 07:18, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Alright. I must have missed about the category of Police Departments, but thats fixed now. The headers are there now as well. Let me know if it needs changing. - If Jedaz = 07:28, 19 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3
Coolio. I'd put a subst: in on the PAGENAME, and make it a second level (rather than 4th level) header. Then it's pretty much a straight cut'n'paste anyone can do! Bravo :) -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 07:32, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Alright, done. I don't know how I accidently got a level 4 header, but I did =P Anyway I'm just putting in a function so that it has the other two headers (Barricade Policy and Current Status) for buildings and not streets, carparks, ect. - If Jedaz = 07:41, 19 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

Yer a legend Jedaz :) Not a single red link in the Police Department category now thanks to this! -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 07:45, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Heh, thats good to hear. Anyway I just updated it again so that it recognize buildings (aka, the locations that can be barricaded) and give them the additional headers. - If Jedaz = 07:51, 19 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3


Awesome! Thanks for the move. Hey is it alright if I leave it up on my userspace for a while or is there like a timelimit before it's deleted again? I'm just amazed that it was still somewhere around in the wiki's archives. Thanks again. Riktar 07:42, 31 July 2007 (BST)

West Boundwood

Well catalogued, mate! Crabappleslegalteam 02:58, 19 August 2007 (BST)

Thanks - Vantar 21:27, 19 August 2007 (BST)


Hey, thanks for categorizing those pages for me! I thought about it, at some point while I was reorganizing the template for the Search Odds sub-pages, but then by the time I actually got to making the pages, it totally slipped my mind. I'll try not to let it happen again... --Morgan Blair 15:05, 20 August 2007 (BST) No problem - Vantar 15:07, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Thank you =)

Thanks for you help Vantar... i think i've got it now! Do let me know if i've messed it up! Couldn't have done it without your help; i didn't even know about group categories. I know... *hangs head in shame*. Anyway, thank you so much! - Crystal C-Kids

Your welcome! Glad you found my advice helpful, don't worry about not know about the group category about 20 groups a week create pages with out any categories - Vantar 19:21, 21 August 2007 (BST)

"The" Problem

You're spamming the wiki with tons of incorrectly indexed pages. All the "The" buildings shouldn't be alphabetized by the "The" in the building-type category. It makes the category useless. --Tekka Maki 05:16, 25 August 2007 (BST)

Re: Zack

Thanks for the info :-) -- Pavluk 09:27, 25 August 2007 (BST)

I Want...

I want to reduce your workload.--Jorm 06:37, 30 August 2007 (BST)

I need some input

And I'll gladly accept yours: User:Matthewfarenheit/Sandbox/Civility. Use the page's talk page for discussion. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:48, 3 September 2007 (BST)

A new bureaucrat round has started

And you are a candidate. good luck.-- Vista  +1  23:08, 3 September 2007 (BST)

International Copyright

I figure that this should explain some of the questions that people have about international copyrights. --Akule School's in session. 01:43, 21 September 2007 (BST)


You might want want to look at this entry. Apparently there is an unofficial policy and a statement to new users about how the UDwiki is not a commercial page. --Akule School's in session. 23:14, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Ackland Defense Plan vote

Nay, Vantar, my comment had to do with the page in question itself. Not you at all -- you're one of the good guys in my book. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 01:44, 3 October 2007 (BST)

Copyrights Update 1 policy

According to the page guidelines, that should have been put to a vote weeks ago. Could you either put it to a vote or dump it in the withdrawn policies archive, please? Just get the ball rolling on it. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 21:24, 5 October 2007 (BST)

Wow, I totally forgot about that thing, I'll go take care of it. - Vantar 23:05, 5 October 2007 (BST)

thank you

thank you for your suggestions

--Kirk15 18:53, 19 October 2007 (BST)Kirk15

Deleting Pages on the Wiki

Hi, I thought I'd come here to continue the discussion on my page without clogging up the deletions page, and I didn't really know where else might be a good place to discuss this. I really just have two questions: first, how did my page end up on the "Special:Uncategorizedpages" page? Is that some kind of spider or bot that goes around and collects pages with only 1 link to them or something? Just wondering, since I obviously never linked it there. And second: why does this really matter? I mean, why is it important that a page be properly filed and categorized and not just "shoved into a filling cabinet," as you say? To me a wiki is like the net itself: tons and tons of uncategorized random stuff that just needs a good search engine to get around in. I mean, it seems like it would take dozens of people hours a day to monitor and remove all the garbage that gets spewed into a wiki, and it'd be a pretty thankless, never-ending job. Why not just ignore it and make your wiki smart enough to handle it? Like my page, for instance. What could it possibly be hurting, just sitting out there by itself? I mean, sure the name of the page would be taken if anyone else wanted to use it, but how many other people are honestly going to want to grab that namespace? What else does it possibly damage? Is this just organization for the sake of being organized? Don't get me wrong; I'm not trying to defend a position - just honestly asking a question here. And as for the page in question, I'll still be happy to move it - just let me know when and I'll go ahead and do it (especially since now I know better how to do things like that than when I originally made the page). Or if I need to leave it and let someone else move it, I can do that, too. Just let me know. --evilbob 19:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The Specialpages are lists that the wiki automatically compiles. Special:Uncategorizedpages is made up of all the pages without a category. In order to be useful to users the wiki can not just be random uncategorized stuff for two reason. First the search function sucks and second the wiki is meant to serve as a guidebook to the game so if you know what type of information you are looking for you know where to look with out needing the search function.
As for having the wiki categorize itself, it can't be done be done to the same level of accuracy as a human. On the average day 5-7 new page are created without categorizes and I categorizes 10+ pages and it is as you said a pretty thankless, never-ending job (thats why I only do 10 a day, 7 months ago I was doing a 100 a day). Left alone without a category you page would not cause the wiki to explode or do any other damage but the problem is it won't be left alone, it will be joined by lots of other uncategorized pages and after awhile those pages cause problems (such as masking spam pages, page duplication, and the odd name space disputes). This isn't really "organization for the sake of being organized" but more of "organization because it works slightly better than disorganization".
The page will either be moved or deleted in around 12 days, judging by the current votes it has I would say it will be moved and not deleted. There is a special way of moving pages that leave the page history intact that can only be done by Sysops, so you can just leave it alone and it will be moved for you - Vantar 04:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

That note...

...about you being less active. Shouldn't you remove it? You seem quite active to me.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

yeah most likely - Vantar 02:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


I responded to it. Look at my talk page.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  00:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


I can link you to some good resources if you need it- but long story short, KJV is the ONLY true English translation of the Bible. All others have satanic implications; for instance, NIV refers to Jesus as god's "SERVANT", not His "SON" in several locations. One moment and I'll ahve those resources.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Here, here, and here. See this for a good library.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
You are seriously using chick publications as a credible source? Bunch of nut jobs who are both extremely amusing and horrifying at the same time. Get thyself to before you get brainrot. - Pardus 16:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Don't attack the validity of the source- that's the BIGGEST flashing indicator of a weak mind- refute the points.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  00:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok nutjob, go join your friends causing misery on earth waiting for the rapture to slaughter us evil heathens/heretics. You ever wonder why suicide bombers do what they do? LOOK IN THE MIRROR, YOU ARE THE SAME. - Pardus 23:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually sometimes attacking the validity of the source is the best course of action to take, especially when it's, say, Fox News, for example. But it really doesn't help that the source you use contains examples of exactly what you are criticizing him for. Even then,comparing the Catholic church to Stalin and Hitler, and the inquisition to the holocaust kinda destroys claims of sanity, especially when they encourage the prosecution of not only other religions but transgendered people. When you talk about religion it should be because you believe, not because you want to use it as a sword to insult and mock other's beliefs.--Karekmaps?! 01:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
The KJV is flawed. One reason is because it retains the Apocrypha. --Pavluk A! E! 18:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
No, it keeps them... IN THE MIDDLE.... AS HISTORICAL REFERENCE, clearly marking them as apocrypha.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  00:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I used NIV because it was the default bible on the bible search tool I was using, the pros and cons of the KJV are about the same as any other translation (anything coming from Aramaic to English by way of Greek will have translation errors -fact of life) so from now on if I need to use any scripture references I'm using Wyclif version and thats final- Vantar 19:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
KJV is the only valid translation in english. I have yet to hear you refute any of the points raised on that page.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  00:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The webite also makes the assertation that the KJV in English is the only inspired Word of God available today. I honestly find it ridiculous. Do you believe in a God that would oppose the translation of his book into languages other than English? That'd be a pretty xenophobic God. --Pavluk A! E! 20:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The whole virgin birth thing was one doozy of a translation error that came by way of greek. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 19:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Jesus IS God incarnate, he was born of a virgin birth, but the Virgin Mary ISN'T holy, nor did she remain a virgin. And I say to you three things, that will happen before it's all over. I pray that you repent when you hear of them coming to pass in the future.
1. Damascus shall be destroyed It shall either be completely leveled, or so much of its population devastated that no one shall call it a city ever again.
2. The Jewish Temple shall be rebuilt I called it. Trust me, it will happen.
3. An army of 200 million men shall attack Israel Never been an army that large in the history of history, but there will be one- and it will attack israel.
And that's the last I'll comment.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  00:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


Responded on A/VB  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  00:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I saw, I'm looking at other evidence and double checking some guidelines to see what my allowed actions - Vantar 00:46, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


have spotted the mistakes that i made in my edit. thanks for fixing them up for me - just started to learn how to use this wikimadigey thing Sanpedro 12:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Archived on 18:59, 25 March 2007 (BST)

Hey, you moved a page but I think we need to move it back. Jed Case isn't my character, he's a seperate person, I was helping him out making his page to start with and he logged into his wiki account and did more work to it. His wiki id is Jed Case. So, he needs to be set up under his own self. - Alice Cuinn

Cool page. Who'd ya steal it from? --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 09:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I got everything I used on it from here Vantar 10:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Odd, I tried that too. Then I saw MatthewFarenheit's page, and the rest is history. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 10:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

You are going around slapping 'speedydelete' templates on locations. I'm telling you now that no one's going to delete location pages, thought they might blank the page and start over again. Just deleting them is lame though. Just FYI.--Lachryma 19:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

the pages I just marked as speedy deletion are all the same, someone made 50 copies of the same page mostly for areas that do not require an article or if they would the would be covered by a page similar to Roftwood StreetsVantar 19:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Ha, I just glanced at one, saw some random propaganda and figured you were looking at various lame location pages. My bad. Anyway, make what they are very clear on the speedy deletions page and it should be fine.--Lachryma 20:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Just clarified this on the speedy deletion page, I looked at the recent changes and yeah that massive block of speedydeletions looks more than a little fishy. Thanks for the heads up anyway

Ok i got your message loud and clear Vantar! Just so the other members of STU Radio get the picture too i have added a little note section with some strict rules and the outcomes if you dont follow them! feel free to check it out. STU Radio 23:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yea the page is for a group! STU Radio 00:44, 22 January 2007

Sign Your Posts

... on pages such as M/SD.--Gage 22:56, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Did I forget to sign? Sorry about that. Vantar 23:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
... and please place Criterion 12 pages in the criterion 12 queue.--Gage 02:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


For the dramaless work on the wiki. Users like you make my work on the wiki easier.--Gage 04:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem, just glad to lend a hand Vantar 04:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


Did I cut back on your to do list much?--Gage 04:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

450+ pages categorized in two edits, at this rate I'll run out of work Vantar 04:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
:D--Gage 05:02, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Deletions

Could you please use a heading when you add pages to the queue? It helps to keep things organised. --Hubrid Nox Mod WTF U! B! 15:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

sure no problem Vantar 22:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you

Well, my archive for old talk was moved and i saw you asked for that. I think the mistake i made was not using the ":" betwen "user" and "che13". if I made any others please tell me to avoid making those again, and also, I left a comment about it here becouse i really think users should know one of their pages has been moved, to fix the links he has to that page, and to understand why it was moved to avoid future errors when creating pages. -- Che -T GC X 09:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, it's good to see people who cares about the wiki, and the wiki users-- Che -T GC X 04:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Malton Forensics Unit/Membership

Hi Vantar. Yes, I believe this page would fit better in Cat:DEM. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 04:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


I'm loving your category work. --Hubrid Nox Mod WTF U! B! 10:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!Vantar 10:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Ooooh, you're getting so close! -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 02:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep it up

And that would be pretty much it. --Niilomaan GRR!M! 22:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Will try but I'm hoping to run of of uncategorized pages after awhile. Vantar 22:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


Thank you for adding categories to Ghetto Cow's pages! I wish you luck in your categorizing quest!--Lachryma 00:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm glad you like your Category Vantar 00:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Re this

It is. Go for it.--Gage 04:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Well that solves that problem, thanks, Vantar 04:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

You are almost there, Vantar! Go for the gold!--Lachryma 04:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

thanks Vantar

Just fix the links on the group's page to the subpage when we move them, okay?--Gage 13:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure, no problem Vantar 18:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Be sure to make the slashes the right way. / instead of \--Gage 21:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that Vantar 21:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
s'okay <3. Great work with the wiki so far. Do you have an AIM or MSN account?--Gage 21:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
no sorry I use gtalk. Vantar 21:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


We are honoured to have a category all of our own! However, would it be possible to have it changed to 'Crabapples' or 'Crabapple family'? The singular was originally established as the main term by a group of communist ruffians. Would you mind? (Incidentally, I may be slow if you reply to this, for which I can only apologise in advance!) --St. Ethelbert Crabapple 14:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou very much! Very accomodating of you sir! --St. Ethelbert Crabapple 17:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for catagorising the various OctoLegion pages. --Nuabreed 17:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem, since there is a good number of pages on your group now do you guys want a category of your own? Vantar 21:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

That would be nice, if possible.--Nuabreed 11:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

How about Category:Legion of the Octopope Vantar 23:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Excellent. That'll do nicely.--Nuabreed 17:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for adding Lebende Tote to the zombie group catagory. I completely forgot to do that....thanks for watching my back.--Balistic 15:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome Vantar 21:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for fixing the redirect from the GS page, I was about to do it ^_^ just figured out how

Edit: Oh and thanks for adding my group to the Human Page ^_^ Really helping out around the wiki, eh?

Your welcome, good luck with your group Vantar 03:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


Hey Vantar, I have nominated you for promotion to sysops, I hope you accept the nomination -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 08:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Boxy, I have gladly accepted your nomination. Vantar 14:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I really hope you get promoted, Vantar. You're one of the best workers (and people) I've known in a long time. --Hubrid Nox Sys WTF U! B! 04:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you Vantar 23:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Wanted pages

Just to say, i've decided to give you a hand. As i'm bored and I need a project to work on.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks this my not cure your boredom but it will give you something to do Vantar


Nice of you to put us in groups pages. --Iggy13 22:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC) No problem Vantar 22:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


thanks for adding a catagory to the FU archive, i totaly spaced on that. XP -Bullgod 07:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Glad I could helpVantar 01:30, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

The Brennand Building

Just stopped by to ask if I can remove the locations stub template from the bottom of This page. I feel it's completed for the current moment. --Kamden 01:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --Kamden 01:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The only reason why I put it there was because the page was using the locationblockmerge template instead of the locationblock template, I made the change and replaced locations stub with Category:Locations very nice page by the way Vantar 01:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. I do believe it's as done as it'll get. --Kamden 01:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


You got yourself a very nice user page! That's awesome!--Lachryma 21:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, also thanks for catching my typo on the SandboxUser Template Vantar 21:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
No big deal, I just can't stand typos. Hey, you could be mod one day, huh?--Lachryma 21:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Yup assuming all goes well at UDWiki:Administration/Promotions Vantar 21:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
So, whatcha gonna do then? Wield your banhammer like a madman?--Lachryma 21:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll probably end up wielding my "move page screwdriver" and "clear the speedy deletion queue hacksaw" more than my banhammerVantar 21:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget you have it, though! Well, I'll leave you alone now. I'm sure you're very busy.--Lachryma 21:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


Sysop. has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?--Vista 12:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to the cool guys club. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 13:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
We still don't have any girls? why did I reactivate?!--Vista 13:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I prefer psyops meself ;P Just take it easy on the groups, eh, just take out the truly useless ones -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 13:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Goodie! New meat! Welcome, and may your banhammer be swift and strong. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 21:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everybody, I'll try and keep these new powers from going to my head ;) Vantar 01:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Archived on 23:44, 21 April 2011 (BST)

Something I thought you should see

This, which seems pretty close to vandalism actually considering it's a stones throw away from him making accounts under different IPs and voting for himself. --Karekmaps?! 20:29, 18 April 2008 (BST)

I'm serious, Karek. If you want, I can provide a screenshot of the IM. Or do you want his screenname also? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:31, 18 April 2008 (BST)
haha the goons must be loving this. look, its apparently the same thing DCC did with all her goon pals. "Hey goonies, go vote against this doofus" or whatever. Just look at the last votes for him. Axe, just let them ride. Most of the sysops seem smart enough to figure out those last few bunches of "against" votes don't mean a damn thing. --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 20:38, 18 April 2008 (BST)
Just in case, I'll just provide this as proof that I did convince a friend. I'm sorry for all the highlighting, but he's writing in white, which is annoying since Meebo doesn't show background colors... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:41, 18 April 2008 (BST)

Heh Heh....

Thanks man. Sorry bout that, I've got a rep to- wait, no I don't. Let's go with I was high. Yeah, that.....--Officer 123satsitx 18:58, 12 April 2008 (BST)


HAHAHA omg that was quick. IS this your life? Do you sit here all day and night just watching these pages? LOL. I love you. You make me feel good about myself. hahahaha. HAVE FUN DELETING MY PAGE. --Scurley7 13:18, 4 April 2008 (BST)

LOL durlet dyou drunk. srttle down ou driunk fuck. im syspop hyou die biw.--Nallan (Talk) 13:25, 4 April 2008 (BST)
I thikn the zobies win urandam dead.ddddddddddddddddddddd aaaaaaaaah.gjafwon urban dead

--Nallan (Talk) 13:27, 4 April 2008 (BST)

RE: A message about talk pages

So then howcome The Grimch said editing someone's comments was impersonation? I ain't missing his point. Treviabot92 04:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Unused Images

Can you not delete those Whitmore Building charts please? -- boxytalk • 13:06 2 December 2007 (BST)

Sure an particular reason? - Vantar 13:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll make a page for them. It just seems like a waste of effort to just loose the data. You can rip into the NT scan screenshots though, I guess -- boxytalk • 13:10 2 December 2007 (BST)

Heh, we seem to have duplicated our efforts in this. I hate deleting unused images... far to lenient I am. I just hate deleting stuff permanently, unless it's of absolutely no interest whatsoever -- boxytalk • 13:24 2 December 2007 (BST)

Yeah thats part of the reason I'm sticking to the really old stuff, I figured I would trim down to around august 07. Doesn't undeletion work for images? because I'm pretty sure these aren't that permanently gone. - Vantar 13:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Unless Kevan has updated the wiki lately, I think they're gone for good -- boxytalk • 13:53 2 December 2007 (BST)
You right, i just tried it.You can restore the image description but not the image, that not really that helpful - Vantar 13:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Broken link

On your user page, under Special:Uncategorizedpages, near the very bottom. +1 --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes and I am very glad it broke, Im keeping it to serve as an example to all the other broken pages on Special:Uncategorizedpages that don't feel like being deletable - Vantar 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Archive O'Clock

Yay! Too bad I don't get that time zone in my area of the wiki :(--Karekmaps?! 02:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it's kinda of like daylight savings time some places just don't have it- Vantar 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for categorizing the CommandBios; I forgot <.<. /give Vantar cookie. <3 --dudemeister 23:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Move

I appreciate it. --Akule School's in session. 00:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

no problem. The page seems popular 3 votes and I haven't even updated the news box yet - Vantar 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Edit: nevermind you beat me to it :) - Vantar 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Yup! I wanted to get it out there and just see how many people are interested in it. --Akule School's in session. 00:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


I guess i am supposed to warn you that you are running for a Bureaucrat. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 00:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

A Deal?

Due to your kindness Inundantia will not harm anything within your kindgdom--Death Valley Driver 00:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very kind of you- Vantar 00:13, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Thats good, Inundantia scares the crap out of me!--James M. McGee 22:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

The worst location ever: Pridmore Way School

Erm, how should this be blocked? I'm thinking that making this into a disambiguation might work, but the content applies to both. Duplicate the content on both new locations or get rid of it? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of moving the page that is there to somewhere else and making Pridmore Way School into a disambig linking to Pridmore Way School 10,96 & Pridmore Way School 13,96 but that ran into the problem of where to move the current content to. Its too developed to warrant deletion and it is relevant enough and of high enough quality to be kept in the main name space.- Vantar 22:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Two location blocks? That template would have to be mangled to get a left and right alignment.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
No two separate pages, technical I should have label that diambigless instead of blockless - Vantar 22:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep the content on the disambig? Except almost no one will see it.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Been there. Done that. You, block them. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 22:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Done - Vantar 22:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


Just thought I'd let you know, I think you made a mistake with adding a whole bunch of images to the category "screenshoots". I'm almost certain you meant "screenshots" but I'll leave it to you to fix it, haha. Yeah, I'm lazy.--Nick 04:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah crap...Yeah your right, though technically i didn't make the mistake I just spread it around more, i copy/pasted the category name straight from the Category Tree and didn't bother to proofread it first. Nice catch, I'm glad you got it before I did more- Vantar 04:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

So, is that image category stuff decided now? Meaning I can start categorizing images?--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I think so, but am not certain that's why I started with the lest complicated category first. - Vantar 04:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Hrm. If this is the current plan, it's overcomplicated.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Not really Location images could be handled a little better but thats about it - Vantar 04:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I suppose you're right. Location images should probably just be: Location images. Also, what if a character plays both "Outlaw" and "Zombie" equally? Do we incorporate both categories? Weapons and equipment should probably be combined to make: Items. Yes, no, maybe? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 05:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
No, Maybe, No. There will some day be ~10,000 images in Location images so if you are looking for a certain image some sub cats are a must, I just don't like weeding out TRps and non TRps. I have no clue what the outlaw category is to be used for, how do we tell a Pk character art from civilain art, its the zombie apocalypse everyone has guns and crazed look in their for equipment you find there are a lot of images of guns and weapons are most likely what people will be looking for so were are making if easy to browse- Vantar 05:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Mmkay. So keep it as is unless something turns up?--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
THat been my plan so far - Vantar 17:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm assuming that any art used solely for PKer groups would be considered to be in the outlaw category. I really like that category name too. It fits quite well. --Akule School's in session. 19:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration Discussion

Please stop by, It not only effects most users, it effects Sysops directly.--Karekmaps?! 17:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Image Categorisation

I think we're ready to start in on categorising the wiki's images, please read the instructions on that page, and then if there are any further questions, ask on the talk page (or my own page). We've got a big job ahead :) -- boxytalk • 01:19 2 December 2007 (BST)


Just wanted to give ya a crat congrat. I amuse myself too much! anywho, kudos--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 09:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Aw, I wanted to be the first person to congratulate you. Anyway, good luck with the new position! --Z. slay3r Talk  15:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC) Thanks both of you - Vantar 18:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I expect $$ for my vote. Congratz! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

MOAR $$ plz kthx. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, good luck. - Whitehouse 23:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your nomination. I'm glad my vote could help. I look forward to seeing your energy put forth around the wiki. --Akule School's in session. 00:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

High fives from me! --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 07:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I just deleted a "joke" page put up by redrum, regarding DK13, and used to spread nothing but complete rubbish and lies. There are also several instances of my own original artwork and photographs being used without permission. How come i get a warning? Thats some kind of joke right? --MK 00:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure this type of stuff isn't impersonation? It can make people look like complete retards and is also incredibly misleading. (Yes, I like using the same header).--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge pages?

I'm utterly confused, and Gnome said that you might know the answer to this one. Could you please stop by my talk page and take a look at the pothole I seem to have stepped into? --FrozenFlame 00:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting the ball rolling on updating the Location Style Guide. Since I'm still so new to this community, I'm just going to wait it out until it's updated. After that I'll get back to implementing whatever method is decided.--FrozenFlame 16:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Location pages

I've noticed how some locations have their own pages (like Freake Grove) and some are part of a grouped page, such as Gatley Drive. Should all related locations in a suburb (eg. streets) share a suburb block type page, or should they have their own individual page? I am just cleaning up some wiki pages in the NW area (Dakerstown, Jensentown...) and need to know what policy I should adhere to, especially since a lot of the links in the 3x3 map on location pages are broken (see: Seamour Crescent) due to the variation in styles from suburb to suburb. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.--Nick 01:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)--Nick 22:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


Feel free.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  14:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm posting this here just because it seems an appropiate heading for it to go under, I just wanted to say that I appreciated your ruleing on the Mobius Spam issue. I was glad to see I wasn't the only person out there that didn't think it was spam, but was actually relevant material that had been customized ffor each page. Again thank you for baing an Admin your work is appreciated.--Mr NoName001 02:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Kooks Promotion

He needs a sysop vouch before his bid can be moved; I didn't see one.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  02:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

And he only has one vouch from a user with over 200 contribs. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 02:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

First Ruining of Fort Creedy

Can you help me flesh it out, any info you can provide? Any tips for wording/balance?  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  02:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the wikification.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for adding my journal archive to the right category. I didn't even know there was a "journal archive" category. -- BackBraker 05:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


quick question. would this edit be condsidered vandalism?--'BPTmz 07:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes- Vantar 07:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thanks.--'BPTmz 07:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


Karek's bid for promotion is ready to deal with. I notice you haven't stated a position, so I will leave it up to you to review the submissions and make a decision if you're happy to. I've stated my thoughts on the bid already. If you want to discuss it further, feel free to leave a message on my talk page, or email me via the wiki -- boxy talki 13:45 20 January 2008 (BST)

Broken Link

You ended up breaking my link to my toe tags picture for the implemented suggestion of toe tags. Can we get it back, or should I re-upload? --Akule School's in session. 16:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, undeletion doesn't play well with images so reloading is your best bet. Since links images are mostly ignored by Special:Unusedimages you may want to include the image on a subpage to keep it from getting back on the scheduled deletion list - Vantar 17:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll just add it to my userpage. I'll have to find it again and re-upload. --Akule School's in session. 17:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandal Account/IP address block?

I recently got a message on the wiki warning me about "vandalism". On trying to access your page or edit my own, I got a message saying my IP was blocked because a user, "lesantdavida" used my IP as a vandal account. I usually use a public connection through my college dorm, and I would hate to have to walk to Starbucks just to use the wiki. Is there any remedy to this situation?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hardcore Rockabilly (talkcontribs) 19:07, 4 February 2008.

RE: Vandalism Warning

Thanks for unblocking that IP. I'm part of the DEM, so I think messing with DEM pages would be kind of counter-productive, eh? Thanks for your help. --Hardcore Rockabilly 01:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


Gotcha! There's so many. I want to cry. :( -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 17:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Will do. I'll try and get a chunk of them done now. -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 17:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


This whole game is fiction. What makes one thing worthy of the category and one thing not? And is this whole game fiction? I mean its real in a sense. Btw i'm not disputing that the Great Fire article is fiction, just curious as to how the category is so empty...and why is the gnome in it?--xoxo 11:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm fiction. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Anything that happened either before the outbreak or involves events that clearly never happened get placed into Category:Fiction. There isn't that much back story on the wiki so the category is rather bare. Also the Category is rather new so a lot of older fiction was never added into to. As for the gnome, I guess there is no such thing.- Vantar 01:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

You could always hop through the UDWiki:Lexicon and mark up some of those.--Karekmaps?! 13:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


Could you look in on A/DM, specifically at Darths demotion request, please -- boxy talki 05:13 23 February 2008 (BST)


Krazy Monkey's promotion bid is ready for a ruling. I could go either way on this, on the one hand, he's very active, helpful, and seems impartial. On the other he hasn't shown much interest in policy discussions, and often makes a few basic editing mistakes (usually to do with linking). Whatever you decide is fine with me -- boxy talki 10:14 27 February 2008 (BST)

His work tends to be of the janitorial variety so I don't think his lack of policy discussion will that big of a problem. He seems to understand the queues and the community didn't mention any lack of trust in is janitoring so Ive added him to the op team. - Vantar 11:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you promote 73 while boxy is awol ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 06:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


Hey I just got back on the wiki after a year of absense and I saw your invitation to the lexicon, I was wondering how one could go about reviving the whole project, it seems indecent to leave it unfinished. --Slowwber 00:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey I'm trying to get the lexicon revival into the news on the main page, i put it on the wikinews page but I can't get it on to the news tablet. Thanks.--Slowwber 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

9 Block Maps

I added a 9 block map to Wicks Plaza I also attempted to remove the location stub requirements for Wicks Plaza and The Paviour Building. I think thats done correctly, if not could you please inform me?


This page has been updated more recently, Where is the Safehouse, exactly? If It's in Havercroft, I'll stop by. (I'm Zed', Got Syringes?) --Dr Cory Bjornson 03:09, 15 April 2008 (BST)


Since boxy isn't around, could you look into this request? Apparently this guy would like some sysop action getting those images taken down in a prompt manner. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:43, 15 April 2008 (BST)

If you read my post here you'll see that I found precedent for people to be vandal banned for harassment involving names. Jedaz says it best here. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:32, 16 April 2008 (BST)
You may have a case, it is not a perfect comparison to the current issue but it is close enough. If Marty takes his case to A/VB it will get heard (but boxy's talk page is not a/vb)- Vantar 00:42, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Oh, I know. He wanted to get help from boxy or another sysop. So I figured I'd let you talk to him since you are one and he's ignoring the discussion, thus making marty more desperate for help. I'll get the ball rolling if you would prefer to keep away from this with a ten foot pole. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:47, 16 April 2008 (BST)
It is not that I don't want to get involved it is that there is not much more I can tell him other then take it to arbys or A/VB and that has been said a few times now. The biggest problem is in terms of game flavor there would be insults flying between opposing sides so the case that would need to be made is what has been said/drawn crosses the line and I am not sure if it really has in this case or not (still digging though) - Vantar 00:55, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Oh, I figured that the whole thing would have to be investigated and if both sides (or just Marty) want to be left alone it would have to be A/Aed, but there is a point where a line is crossed where we have to say "This isn't a forum and this is a bad faith edit." I think those pictures probably cross that line, don't you? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:00, 16 April 2008 (BST)
I think a few may be crossing it and few aren't but figuring out which ones are will be a bitch of a precedent so I would not expect a quick ruling ( and I wouldn't bet against a A/M case getting started before it's all said and done) - Vantar 01:05, 16 April 2008 (BST)
To begin with, I'd look at the ones that are attributing fictional quotes to Marty, as those would fall under impersonation. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:16, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Impersonation would be a stretch (not inconceivable but a stretch) the big problem is you have to prove they are talking about Marty Banks (the user) and not Marty Banks (the fictional character). - Vantar 01:30, 16 April 2008 (BST)
I imagine they are since they are quoting him on their group talk page and posting them for public view here. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Not sure if I should be chiming in here, but a parody image with a word balloon is pretty clearly meant as an insult, rather than any sort of attempt at misdirection or impersonation. The Malton Globetrotters#31 - TastyNougat TMG 23:19, 18 April 2008 (BST)
Since the art work is derived from Marty's character art they would be impersonating the fictional character not the user, at least thats how I see it- Vantar 01:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)
True, but since Marty controls the character and the character's speech, wouldn't they in fact be pretending that he said it, thus impersonating him? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:52, 16 April 2008 (BST)
No, character likeness are not protected under the wiki's impersonations rules (and if this case ends up setting that precedent I call dibs on "a non-descript survivor") I know a few Malton chronicles stories that involved characters not controlled by the author, and this is more or less the same type of thing - Vantar 01:59, 16 April 2008 (BST)
I didn't realize that. So just the harassment then. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 02:03, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Yes but you have the same problem, are they harassing the User or the Character. The bar for Character harassment is much higher, I would look at some of the earlier Finis Valorum stuff for a precedent. Of course if at any point Marty just asked them to lay off a little and they ignored it you would have a decent bad faith case there. Them not respecting the legal threats on boxy's talk page is not a good example of this, you need him to ask them nicely and directly to have their ignoring it be considered bad faith - Vantar 02:21, 16 April 2008 (BST)
It's clearly harassing the player, and it looks like he wants it to stop. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 02:30, 16 April 2008 (BST)
If they do any more then yes thats almost unquestionably bad faith but since they have have been primarily making fun of the character you are going to have a hard time proofing that harassment of the user was indented, making fun a of a group or a character is allowed (think about all the anti-Big Bash stuff there has been) to prove harassment you need to be able to establish that they were continuing mocking him after they knew he was taking their tauts personally. Also since they are not responsible for tracking Marty every comment his complaints on boxy's and kevan's talk page doesn't count as letting them know he was offended until they commented on it and mocking his legal threats isn't harassment since he may not be in a position to make good on them, so you would need new material to emerge to get the harassment call. (of course Marty may have asked them to lay off earlier already, I haven't looked that far back yet,if he has then harassment would be relatively easy to prove) - Vantar 02:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the contribution

Yeah, forgot to add the category, thanks. --Sect46 00:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)

No problem, interesting angle to go with for a game guide, it's nice to see something different like that. - Vantar 00:43, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Akule's bid

Akule's promotion bid should have been closed four days ago. And axe appears to have declined his promotion bid. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 04:54, 19 April 2008 (BST)

Karek's Misconduct Complaint

Would you mind re-stating your vote following my addition of Hagnat to the complaint having discovered he was responsible for one of the strikings? --Grarr 19:46, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Dux Demotion

Demote me baby ;) --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 13:04, 6 May 2008 (BST)

Done - Vantar 13:16, 6 May 2008 (BST)

SA promotion

I don't know that he's got enough community support at this time, nor enough contributions lately -- boxy talki 13:14 15 May 2008 (BST)

Agreed - Vantar 16:12, 15 May 2008 (BST)
Oooo sooper sekrit bureaucrat discussion...--xoxo 13:35, 15 May 2008 (BST)


MU_Roster be moved to Malton_Underground/MU_Roster, Just for the hell of it? 20:58, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Done, however in the future UDWiki:Administration/Move Requests is a better place for this type of request - Vantar 21:02, 22 May 2008 (BST)
Ah. Thanks, I just remembered you moving my page.. 21:41, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Kill Vista

Vista has requested demotion, please review and do the biz -- boxy talki 01:33 23 May 2008 (BST)

misconduct voting

hi. could you vote on my misconduct case ? Vote for, vote against, just vote. I just want this thing to be over. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 02:57, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Sure - Vantar 03:45, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Thank you

For recognising when your time is up. I personally didn't have any issues with you aside from a few contentious rulings (and would have probably voted for you), but I appreciate your integrity in bowing out. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 01:37, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Umm...your welcome. I kinda always thought you had some issue with me (I think all of our past interaction have ended in personal attacks) so your gratitude honestly surprises me here. Thank you - Vantar 02:58, 7 June 2008 (BST)
Unlike some - and despite what many think - I am able to differentiate between someone who disagrees with me but honestly thinks they're doing the right thing and someone with an agenda. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 06:02, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Being a bureaucrat

If you don't mind me asking, what was it that you didn't like about the role? --Toejam 04:07, 7 June 2008 (BST)

There was a few things but the biggest thing was the "Spirit of the Rules vs. Wording of the Rules" fight that kept breaking out. For the first part of my term I was too busy with categories to really get involved with the wiki politics then the Grim A/VB happened. What the archive doesn't include is the 10 straight hours that me and Grim spent in IRC arguing our opposing view points. The entire case was ugly form the start and it never has really been resolved. When the issue resurfaced I tried to resolve the issue but Grim took my ruling as an attack on him instead of the request for compromise I meant it to be. In later misconduct cases things not much would change and around the same time there was an influx of promotion bids so, to me at least, it looked like certain users were trying to establish a controlling majority over misconduct rulings. That mixed with rather baseless accusations of being part of an "old boys club" made me lose all desire to remain a bureaucrat.- Vantar 08:46, 7 June 2008 (BST)
Thanks for the (well-considered) answer. There certainly is a lot of pointless conflict around this wiki. It's alright when it's just polite intellectual dissension (in fact that sort of conflict is probably healthy) but when it gets into people speaking to each other to antagonise them, that's horrible. Sometimes I think it would be nice if each time there was a disagreement, like exact wording vs spirit of rules, the wiki sub-divided into two and people went to whichever group they wanted. It'd be like that saying that people get the government they deserve, and if someone had ridiculous views they couldn't impose them on others. By the way, I'm a bit late but good work on the image categorisation project. --Toejam 02:06, 12 June 2008 (BST)
Thanks but the my contributions to image categorization were minimal at best. Boxy championed the idea and Nubis deserves a lot of the credit, he has categorized well beyond what I have done.- Vantar 02:19, 12 June 2008 (BST)
Thank you. Rosslessness and I worked very hard on that. I hope in the future that a sysop team eventually gets created that is more wiki oriented than policy directed. It's always a shame to see people that actually used to enjoy doing work and contributing leave. --– Nubis NWO 03:51, 12 June 2008 (BST)
Hey now, I'm still here. Does all my location blocking/fixing count for much? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:56, 12 June 2008 (BST)

Template on user page

Hey, could you replace the wiki coma template on my user page to the one that Hagnat just made? {{Gone}}

My page is protected, and I'd rather keep it that way. This should be the only change I make. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 14:07, 13 June 2008 (BST)

Sure no problem , sorry this took me so long to get to this something seems to have gone afoul with in my notification system - Vantar 12:56, 18 June 2008 (BST)
Nah, it's cool. I only logged in yesterday. Thanks. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 09:55, 22 June 2008 (BST)


You still around?-- Vista  T  00:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Not really, I lurk on occasion but mostly to borrow formatting for other wikis, all my characters have idled out in game, and I have lost interest in wiki politics and mass categorization so without a project I feel like working on I have more or less drifted away. - Vantar 05:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I thought so... to bad, I would've gone to your safe house again.-- Vista  T  05:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually last I heard the safe house was still up but that was a month ago- Vantar 07:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
It was up, then I got ransacked, then I died. 04:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Ouch sorry about that then - Vantar 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Last Merged Page

Vantar said:
These may have been the last locations page that needed to have location blocks made - Vantar 14:58, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Special:DoubleRedirects would like a word. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 15:04, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Yes, but as far as I know those are all just merged page, the location blocks are created, they just need to be broken down into individual pages, for some of the streets in Reganbank I had to actually fill out the location block template. - Vantar 15:09, 11 June 2010 (BST)
I stand corrected. Then again I could be an ass and mention Pullin Square in all it's locationblock lacking glory. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 15:18, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Well if you are going for ass points just mention the fact that 99% of Monroeville and Borehamwood are unblocked still :) - Vantar 15:27, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Thanks for the help!

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This user helped in the great demerging of location pages.

Thanks for your work demerging location pages. While the job was tedious, your assistance was invaluable in completing the task. As thanks for helping to improve this wiki, have template. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:20, 13 June 2010 (BST)

No problem, glad to help out, just as long as we don't change the preferred location style back to merged again - Vantar 01:30, 13 June 2010 (BST)


Does User:Murdoc have permission to do this?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:29, 27 June 2010 (BST)

Nope, but I'm pretty sure its an in game thing spilling into the wiki, If he does it again I'll take him to A/VB - Vantar 18:35, 27 June 2010 (BST)