User talk:WanYao/Archive
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[edit] Warning
Please do not vandalize pages on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked.--– Nubis 03:23, 24 August 2008 (BST)[edit] Come irc
we have much to discuss!--J3D 10:57, 23 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Protected A/SD
Speedydelete has been protected, but the queue is an inclusion of the monthly archive page. Can you edit the individual sections to add a new SD request? If not I'll unprotect it (and A/VB) -- boxy talk • i 13:18 20 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Regarding the Dulston wiki page
Why ya' changing it around and stuff? I think it was a lot better the way it was... is there some new policy I'm unaware of or something? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 02:48, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- No new policies... Just implementing some very old, very well-established ones, i.e. to keep the community wiki pages neutral. I'm sorry, but the Dulston Suburb page was basically one big Dulston Alliance propaganda page. This is being fixed. As it happens, no one has apparently gone in edited the Dulston Suburb wiki before now... This happens a lot, and suburb pages will get fixed when someone who notices and has the motivation to do so goes and does it. Now, you will notice that I am not deleting ANY information -- only moving it to a more appropriate location. In doing so, I am following a very standardised set of conventions that are widely used on Suburb pages. These conventions are flexible, but one thing about them is pretty consistent: non-NPOV stuff does not belong in NPOV sections which are meant for the entire community. This is what I am attempting to fix. Thanks for you time. --WanYao 02:57, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- So you'll be doing the same thing to the rest of the suburbs, then? And seriously now there's no policy against that. It's just pointing out the location of a pro-survivor resource, perhaps even discouraging NPOV news in the NPOV section. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:08, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- Also, whats with the new NPOV schtuff? I don't see that on any other suburb pages, and it takes up a shitload of space. Really need it..? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:11, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- I do it on an ad hoc basis... When I happen to see a suburb that needs work, and I have the time and energy, I work on it. I happen to be operating in Dulston at the moment, and poked around the wiki page.... And saw it needed fixing up. So... I went to work. And, nope, I do not plan on doing EVERY fucking Suburb page... That's not one man's job... As I said, I do them on an ad hoc, as-I-come-across-them basis... And I have done other suburbs, though as I explained, I'm not responsible for doing them all... The wiki is a community after all... However, if you'd like to help out going through a few suburb pages yourself, and fixing them up to conform to NPOV and formatting conventions -- that'd be fantastic, we'd really appreciate your assistance! --WanYao 03:17, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- So if it's not a policy, and you're not going to do it on other pages... you won't mind if I move things back to where they were? I'm not seeing why you had to move everything around... If you could point out what you find to be POV, I'd be more than happy to straighten that out with you, but all you've done is moved stuff... how'd you fix all the "propaganda"? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:28, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- I am following standard wiki conventions... Go look at other Suburb pages... Go read the policies on NPOV and arby cases regarding this kind of thing. I'm going to pull no punches now: the Dulston Suburb wiki belongs to the community -- not just to the Dulston Alliance, and not just to pro-survivors in Dulston. And if you revert my edits, then it's straight to Arby... You wanna work with me? Fine. Work with me... and with the policies and conventions of the wiki. Capiche? --WanYao 03:36, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- Again, all you've done is moved stuff. Tell me whats Dulston Alliance POV, please, and I'll help to remedy that... or I'm just going to change it back. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:50, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- I am following standard wiki conventions... Go look at other Suburb pages... Go read the policies on NPOV and arby cases regarding this kind of thing. I'm going to pull no punches now: the Dulston Suburb wiki belongs to the community -- not just to the Dulston Alliance, and not just to pro-survivors in Dulston. And if you revert my edits, then it's straight to Arby... You wanna work with me? Fine. Work with me... and with the policies and conventions of the wiki. Capiche? --WanYao 03:36, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- So if it's not a policy, and you're not going to do it on other pages... you won't mind if I move things back to where they were? I'm not seeing why you had to move everything around... If you could point out what you find to be POV, I'd be more than happy to straighten that out with you, but all you've done is moved stuff... how'd you fix all the "propaganda"? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:28, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- Please stop edit conflicting me on my own Talk page, thanks, grrrh... :P In answer to that last question, if you're referring to the News blurb... It originally appeared on the Pitneybank page and has been added in several other suburbs as well. Yagoton and Williamsville, I believe, being a couple that come to mind immediately. As explained above, fixing stuff is an ongoing, community project... it taakes time and is the result of many people's efforts. Wanna help? --WanYao 03:17, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- While it does seem like a good idea, it does take up a lot of space, wouldn't you agree? It's not like there's an astounding amount of whatever-POV statements being made in the news (and, pertaining to the ones you've "corrected", they aren't extreme at any rate). --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:28, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- It's clearly needed, as evidenced by the plethora of blatantly non-NPOV News posts. Many made by you yourself. --WanYao 03:37, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- O rly? Where aboots? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:50, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- It's clearly needed, as evidenced by the plethora of blatantly non-NPOV News posts. Many made by you yourself. --WanYao 03:37, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- While it does seem like a good idea, it does take up a lot of space, wouldn't you agree? It's not like there's an astounding amount of whatever-POV statements being made in the news (and, pertaining to the ones you've "corrected", they aren't extreme at any rate). --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:28, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- I do it on an ad hoc basis... When I happen to see a suburb that needs work, and I have the time and energy, I work on it. I happen to be operating in Dulston at the moment, and poked around the wiki page.... And saw it needed fixing up. So... I went to work. And, nope, I do not plan on doing EVERY fucking Suburb page... That's not one man's job... As I said, I do them on an ad hoc, as-I-come-across-them basis... And I have done other suburbs, though as I explained, I'm not responsible for doing them all... The wiki is a community after all... However, if you'd like to help out going through a few suburb pages yourself, and fixing them up to conform to NPOV and formatting conventions -- that'd be fantastic, we'd really appreciate your assistance! --WanYao 03:17, 19 August 2008 (BST)
I'm busy now. And... yes... I merely moved stuff... Because I don't just delete stuff.... But there are correct places for POV stuff... And incorrect places. Learn them. Learn and understand how most of the wiki outside of Dulston works... and work with the community to make the Dulston page fit in with the way it's done elsewhere. Don't just revert my edits, because my edits FIXED the page. Thanks. Ciao, now. --WanYao 03:55, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- Can't really learn them If I don't know where they are, now can I? ;D Mind linking me to the policie(s) in question? I do know that several (5 or 6) burbs around Dulston follow the same format. I find it rather hard to believe they've been wrong for the last two years or so and no one's noticed... Also, what POV stuff are you talking about? I'm almost positive anything said about the Alliance (and it's not like there's whole paragraphs about us) was NPOV. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:10, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- NPOV - you asked, enjoy the light reading. Also despite the lack of official policy several arby cases say that there news posts should be npov but as long as you aren't blatantly praising your own group you can get away with saying pretty much anything. Wan is a NPOV hardliner so i wouldn't worry too much :P --J3D 04:15, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- Aye, I'm aware of what NPOV is, and it's not the news posts I'm complaining about, it's the stuff that Wan moved for no apparent reason. There doesn't seem to be a policy about why he moved the stuff around. Considering that the page has been the way it was as far as edit history goes back I'm a little intreigued as to what was the cause of this rather out of the blue change. Besides, I liked it the way it was. I'm willing to help correct any POV he seems to have found, but if this ended up just him being anal because we're putting up a fight for Trood ;D, then Ima change it back. BTW Wan, which wan (LOL PUN) are you? And did you know we have rather confounding evidence that the swarm zergs? Hope you're not working with them... ;) --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:27, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- NPOV - you asked, enjoy the light reading. Also despite the lack of official policy several arby cases say that there news posts should be npov but as long as you aren't blatantly praising your own group you can get away with saying pretty much anything. Wan is a NPOV hardliner so i wouldn't worry too much :P --J3D 04:15, 19 August 2008 (BST)
There is policy and/or precedent regarding what I did. The first parts of a Suburb page are supposed to be neutral, NPOV suburb descriptions. There is plenty of scope for creativity, but it should not include stuff about groups, unless those groups have a long and very influential history in the post-outbreak suburb. Similarly, post-outbreak "history" is generally to be kept off this initial section...
Sections listing groups and post-outbreak "history" and various other things like flavour text... this is stuff that doesn't have to be NPOV... and almost always placed below the Resource Buildings table, and commonly after the Suburb News. I followed this convention in re-ordering the sections of the Dulston page. As I've said, if you look at ohter suburb pages, you will see this is a standardised format. Not universal, because as I have explained, the wiki is an ongoing project.
But furthermore... And I'm going to be totally blunt here... Pretty much everything that was written on the Dulston page was pro-survivor biased, practically a Dulston Alliance propaganda page. Which makes it even less appropriate in these sections. These are community pages, and as such ought to be of use to -- and not alienating to -- all players. Which means no one group or POV should totally dominate it, I don't care how dominant you may be in game.
My changes were appropriate and followed standard wiki conventions, precedents and policies. Now, there is a lot of scope for flexibility, and stuff can be rearranged end edited etc. to make it more "user friendly". My edits simply served to fix the most glaring problems and to get things ordered in the standard ways, and the POV stuff out of the NPOV sections.
And I have already explained that just because no one has addressed these issues before doesn't make them non-issues. For whatever reason, no one could be arsed before. Now, however, someone is being arsed... And, if you're going to connect my attempting to fix NPOV issues to matters in-game... Maybe that's how you think and operate... But I am lot more mature than that... I've already explained my methodologies for editing suburb pages, and how and why I decided to work on the Dulston one. If you didn't read that, or didn't understand it, that's not my problem... I'm not repeating myself. Again...
Anyway... As I've said, if you wanna work with me to improve the page -- fantastic! But if you wanna work against me... well... I'll just say this... Seeya in Arbies...
Have a nice day. --WanYao 09:23, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- You're still not showing me what was pro-survivor POV or "Dulston Alliance Propaganda". And where is the policy you've just referenced? And what precedent are you citing? Just the fact that other pages are like it? Well 5-6 suburbs around Dulston have the same format, and have been since 06'. I'd say thats decent precedent too. So link me a policy and point out the POV nao, plz. kthxbai. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 16:50, 19 August 2008 (BST)
It's not my responsbility to educate you on every little detail of how the wiki functions... It's your responsibility to learn how the wiki works... And, seeing as I have tried to explain these things, but you chosen to be completely non-constructive and are solely interested in making stupid little quips and generally being an asshat... I do not want you posting to my Talk page again, Kikashie. That is all. --WanYao 18:59, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- So what you're saying is you can't site precedent or show me what was pro-survivor POV? Why not? If you can't show me precedent or policy, I'm just going to revert it to the way it has been for two years, and then, if you would like to pursue it further, I'll remove or move whatever you feel is pro-survivor POV/Alliance propaganda. Whats so hard about that? I would assume any major overhaul of a community page, without precedent or policy to back it up, should be first discussed on the talk page, correct? You're avoiding the questions, Wan. Why? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 21:19, 19 August 2008 (BST)
- No. What he's saying is that sometimes if you can't figure it out right away you won't figure it out at all. If you honestly, with all your heart, cannot figure out what is POV and what is NPOV then you will never figure it out...evar. Now, because the wiki Gods feel bad for those that cannot learn common sense they created something called Arby's, a place where if you can't figure out the rules you can get them changed. Right now Arby's has a 5 for $5.95 deal so I'd get going and start 5 cases, even if you don't really need them. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 21:31, 19 August 2008 (BST)
See: UDWiki:Suburb Style Guide for a start... Yes, these are only suggestions,... guidelines... However, there is solid history of precedent in Arby, etc. supporting the kinds of edits I have made. I have been tidying up the page... according to fairly standard practices, and following the general consensus regarding neutrality, ease of access to information / readibility, etc. And, seeing as you do not own the Dulston Suburb page as "personal property", there is no need for me "to go through you" to make edits... Especially seeing as I have deleted nothing of sustance from the page, only reordered things... Redordered according to the style guides, and according to established NPOV protocols and precedents. If you feel I am doing the wiki wrong, please feel free to take it to Arby. --WanYao 21:33, 19 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Constructive work and commentary on the Dulston page can go here
More mostly minor edits made...
For the record... IMO, the "Dulston, more than just a toursist attraction" section is probably fine as its own section, right below the NPOV section but before the resource building tables. This is a common practice and is widely accepted. However, most of the "blurbs" (in general) are very lengthy and this detracts from the ease of navigation... Suburb pages are intended to be informational pages for the whole community... People go to them for info on TRPs and News, as well as to look up important info like active groups and RPs, etc. It should be easy to find this stuff, and it ought not to be buried in ramblings... Basically, if these sections are made fairly concise and non-rambling, they're fine... But as it was, this wasn't the case before I started working on the page, so I moved them to a less intrusive place... Pending further edits for conciseness and readability etc... The whole point has been to try to make the page easy to read and to navigate for important information -- while being both entertaining and relatively neutral and non-alienating to the various "factions" that play UD, overall. It's my hope that the various stakeholders in Dulston will work together towards this end... rather than create drama by name-calling, bizarre (and irrelevant) allegations of bias and in-game cheating, etc. etc. --WanYao 20:33, 19 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Your funney
;)--J3D 01:25, 19 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Sorry
but i had pretty ones and couldnt be fucked integrating. add em back up :) --J3D 09:29, 18 August 2008 (BST)
- read the page rules!!! --J3D 09:40, 18 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] re: re: News and building status reports
I apologize if my post was too biased, I was just trying to add some dramatic flair to an otherwise average report. I did however did try to represent the facts that the RRF attempted using X:00 tatics break into the Ackland mall and were thrown out by Axes High/Crimson Clan/zom/AMS after many casualties albeit with a lot of dramatization. I admit I have been reading Ron Burgundy's userpage a bit too much. --Karec 21:01, 13 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Thanks for the Yagoton Suburb Updates!
I appreciate seeing them, espcially since you seem to try make sure your posts are impartial and apply to the NPOV! --MorthBabid 09:59, 11 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Suggestions Page
I'm trying to get more involved and learn how to do things. I figured I'd ask you about this, doesn't firedancers Throwing Items count as being spammed? He provided 3 links himself, and they were voted as duped by about 6 people. Can it be cycled? And how precisely do I do that? - Tylerisfat 05:01, 8 August 2008 (BST)
- Alright, thanks. I'm just sort of trying to find an area I can be of help with. It took me about 5 seconds to do the mall status updates on the job queue, and it was the only thing I could figure out. :) - Tylerisfat 05:22, 8 August 2008 (BST)
- And I found a few places. Since you'll probably be the one to notice any suckiness, could you check out the format revision that I've done for the suggestion page? SuggestionsTemplate - tylerisfat 19:40, 8 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Apology
some of the users who got flamed recently on Talk:Suggestions stood back from it all and realised where the people who were attacking were coming from, because for the most part there was a context for the flames...
I just wanted to say, that now that I've spent some more time on the wiki and the suggestions page, and seen some of the suggestions that come through there, I'm one of the ones who understands where you are coming from. My suggestion was pretty bad, and I deserved to get flamed. So I'm apologizing for the bad suggestion, and for deleting that section on your talk page about it.
And I also want to say, I'm still not a member of SA :) --JaredTalk Aces C-Kids 03:46, 7 August 2008 (BST)
- You're apologizing for him trolling you? What is wrong with this kid...WanYao is a professional troll. Don't let him wear ye down. Ioncannon11 03:49, 7 August 2008 (BST)
- And yet it is you who is banned from most IRC channels because you run in and start spamming "FUCK" and calling people names without provocation. What do you say to that, hmm? --The Grimch U! E! 04:18, 7 August 2008 (BST)
- LOOOL... you're a funny guy, ioncannon. Actually... No. You're not. That's the REALLY sad thing about it. --WanYao 04:35, 7 August 2008 (BST)
- ...As he trolls your talk page... - Tylerisfat 05:23, 8 August 2008 (BST)
- I trolled his, though. Big time. With giant sized emo hearts. :P But, he's the one got himself a month long ban, with a possible perma for sockpuppeting. Now quit trolling my talk page and go flame my beer and wine stains suggestion. --WanYao 05:26, 8 August 2008 (BST)
- And yet it is you who is banned from most IRC channels because you run in and start spamming "FUCK" and calling people names without provocation. What do you say to that, hmm? --The Grimch U! E! 04:18, 7 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Suggestions Fun!
"Actually, this vote was leaning more towards a response to Grim's statement here: Yet another example of clear bias affecting a decent suggestion negatively. than anything else. You can kinda say it popped a nerve, considering that I can count on one hand many times when he himself didn't vote on the merit of a suggestion, nor many of the rest of us here. But I won't get any further into that. My apologies if it seemed directed at you." Wasn't sure if you received this message from me or not. Incidentally, you were right in pointing out that I may have gone a little overboard with the rant about, ironically, drama in the suggestions side of the wiki, and for that I apologize. --Private Mark 03:57, 6 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Sigh
Don't tell me about spamming the news page and then you go post a comment to a user, something frowned on by the community. So, why the sudden hypocritisy. :D--Jakezing 15:28, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- Yeah, I stretched the rules somewhat... However, while I'm a firm supporter NPOV, I also am cool with some "stretching" of the rules. Always have been, still am. However... My post contained useful and relevant information. Which yours did not. And... when I need to remove a news post -- especially one that contains relevant and important information -- I usually move it to the Talk page. Which you did not do... Talk about hypocrisy etc etc blah blah... Smarten up, Darkmagic. Leik, fer REALZ. --WanYao 17:13, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- Problem fixed the way it admittedly should have been in the first place. You mention that people frown upon direct comments to other users in the News, eh? Well... Fair enough. But then you wholesale deleted a News post that contained -- admittedly along with NPOV direct commentary to a user -- useful and important information. This is also frowned upon, very strongly, sir. Standard procedure is to move such posts to the Talk page. --WanYao 17:33, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- Oh yeah.. install a fucking spell-checker, you cretin. Sorry... had to get that out... ;P --WanYao 17:34, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- This is the only reason i like wikipedia over user made wikis.--Jakezing 19:35, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- What are you on about??? Anyway, Darkmagic, I may be being jerkish about it... okay... But I am also providing legitimate critiques that it would probably be in your best interest to follow. Specifically regarding the news. You efforts to help out and contribute are noted and appreciated -- but why not try to do it properly, so the efforts aren't wasted?? Also, people who don't have a grasp of basic spelling and grammar are rarely taken seriously. You really ought to work on these things: Firefox has an add-on that underlines mistakes, consider using it... It might help in you not getting jumped on so much... --WanYao 19:43, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- This is the only reason i like wikipedia over user made wikis.--Jakezing 19:35, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- Oh yeah.. install a fucking spell-checker, you cretin. Sorry... had to get that out... ;P --WanYao 17:34, 5 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Protections
Sorry, kinda disappeared on you. Anything interesting happened? I see the same old Grim misconduct and vandal drama, nuttin' much. -- AHLGTH 02:43, 3 August 2008 (BST)
- I guess, yeah ... ;) --WanYao 09:04, 3 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Okay whatever
You're a douchebag. Ioncannon11 12:17, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- You just conceded: I've got a bigger douchebag than you! I win!!! Nyah nyah nyah nyah!!! However, you're a fucking idiot... So I win on TWICE! Nyah nyah NYAH NYAH NYAH!!! lol. --WanYao 12:21, 5 August 2008 (BST)
- Now... I've had some fun mocking you... But I have no intention of going back to your Talk page... And I want YOU off MY Talk page, from now on. Capiche? Good. --WanYao 12:22, 5 August 2008 (BST)
[edit] Talk:Suggestions Page
Is there a reason you removed that template I placed on the page warning users that people would troll them on there? Is there an even better reason for your snarky comment in the summary line? I'm just curious why you decided that didn't belong there and was vandalism. What have you been doing to maintain that page again (other than your venomous trolling)? --– Nubis 16:42, 30 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] SA
You mentioned SA on the Talk:Suggestions page. What are they? A wiki search redirects to the Soviet Army. (By the way, I am not a member, whatever they are.) --JaredTalk SPA CK 18:23, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- LOOOL. Do you even play UD??? It doesn't seem like it from that suggestion... Ever left the green suburbs long enough to have heard of the Dead? Something Awful and the Goons? Look it up. --WanYao 18:26, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- Ok, thanks, bye. I don't intend to give you any more opportunities to insult me (baselessly, I might add.) --JaredTalk SPA CK 18:33, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- Sorry but anyone who'd actually suggest making Brain Rot toggle-switchable certainly deserves abuse and mockery. Sheeesh. --WanYao 18:39, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- Bahaha, and this whole time I thought SA meant "Something Arbitrary" how foolish of me.[/sarcasm] --Safetyinnumbers 18:44, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- Sorry but anyone who'd actually suggest making Brain Rot toggle-switchable certainly deserves abuse and mockery. Sheeesh. --WanYao 18:39, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- Ok, thanks, bye. I don't intend to give you any more opportunities to insult me (baselessly, I might add.) --JaredTalk SPA CK 18:33, 26 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Suggestions page and the like
Sorry to sound like a pissy trencher or something. I don't want to stretch this out longer, but I want to be understood. I honestly didn't think i was responding to criticism defensively, I was honestly trying to get people specific opinions. Swiers was pointing out tactical reasons why it wouldn't work. I didn't know those tactics, so I questioned it. This is an idea I thought about, not for days, but for long enough that i knew i wasn't finding what was wrong with it, so i put it on the discussion page. I didn't suggest it, i'm not going to suggest it. I get that it doesn't work now that i get other perspectives, but I didn't think the things that are flawed with it would come into play, because my way of play hasn't had me deal with a situation where this change would cause a problem. I don't think i reacted in some crazy way to peoples criticisms, i just got pissed at the people using rationality that made no sense. I get that its a broken idea, i just don't appreciate the comments on intelligence that really have no base.Tylerisfat 08:56, 26 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Spamination
Cannot take place before the suggestion has been up for six hours. This applies even to the really retarded ones. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 18:45, 25 July 2008 (BST)
- Meeeeeeeeeeh ... I didn't even look at the timestamp ... --WanYao 00:31, 26 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Divas la Revolution
They're up for historical voting. Hope my preamble does them justice. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 18:59, 24 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] IRC
Your absence from IRC is as a blast of icy wind against my unsheilded nether regions. While this problem would be easily solved with pants, i have little interest in finding them. --The Grimch U! E! 14:32, 24 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Arbies
Dude, I fully agree with you that the wiki is broken as regards many things, however I believe the strategy you propose on the A/A page is wrong and will only lead to further breakage.
Just my thoughts though. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 22:46, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- That's exactly the point. Expose the holes. Tear them WIDE OPEN. And storm inside. And make a big fucking mess. GRAAAAAAAAGH! --WanYao 22:50, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- I tried that, especially on the Vandalism page. Doesn't work, cause them to cement the breaks with "Sysops may ignore policy when acting in good faith for the wiki". Admittedly the biggest proponent of that is gone, but I think the way to go is to work with individuals in the system. I actually hold out great hope for Grim's tenure as Bureaucrat. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 22:55, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- the Admin team, taken collectively, is like those survivors who stand and die in malls and who walk into unransacked buildings and shoot zombies but can't be arsed to heal or barricade or anything. There seems to be no talking to sense to them, they don't seem to learn... So, it all about exacerbating the crisis, and pushing it to the edge Lev Trotsky style... And with J3D and Grim as our "entryist candidates"? ;P Actually, truth be told, I can't be arsed to wage a big war, but I will be there, groaning and biting... --WanYao 22:59, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- Groaning and biting is fun. Also I like to consider Karek on the side of reason as well. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 23:08, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- And isn't it ironic that our resident SA sysop going all ban-hammery and authoritarian-like versus someone making some jokes and "protesting" the fucked-up-ed-ness of the wiki? And accusing me of looking like a 2-year-old brat! Interesting... teh ironing, oh teh ironing... :P --WanYao 01:08, 23 July 2008 (BST)
- Groaning and biting is fun. Also I like to consider Karek on the side of reason as well. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 23:08, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- the Admin team, taken collectively, is like those survivors who stand and die in malls and who walk into unransacked buildings and shoot zombies but can't be arsed to heal or barricade or anything. There seems to be no talking to sense to them, they don't seem to learn... So, it all about exacerbating the crisis, and pushing it to the edge Lev Trotsky style... And with J3D and Grim as our "entryist candidates"? ;P Actually, truth be told, I can't be arsed to wage a big war, but I will be there, groaning and biting... --WanYao 22:59, 22 July 2008 (BST)
- I tried that, especially on the Vandalism page. Doesn't work, cause them to cement the breaks with "Sysops may ignore policy when acting in good faith for the wiki". Admittedly the biggest proponent of that is gone, but I think the way to go is to work with individuals in the system. I actually hold out great hope for Grim's tenure as Bureaucrat. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 22:55, 22 July 2008 (BST)
A/PT#Dunell_Hills_Barricade_Plan -- AHLGTH 23:23, 23 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] I can read instructions!
Really, I can. ;D See? (Am just very used to the [+] button, by the way, hence the misfile last time.)
Anyway! Just wanted to let you know that I have finally fallen prey to XIII. That didn't take long at all! XD Well done, folks.
Peter E Jarry said "You say pinkgothic? Well... we approve of your fashion sense. But you serve wrong master! Serve La Mort! Or learn to fear and tremble before XIII!" (38 seconds ago)
*giggles and shambles to revive point* <3 -pinkgothic 23:00, 18 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Question
Is IRC down for you as well? I cant get into anything of Jorm's at the moment and wonder if anyone else is having the same problem. --The Grimch U! E! 13:18, 18 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] SIM
i iz beta den you :)--J3D 03:35, 18 July 2008 (BST)
- oh also - since a/pm is getting a tad crowded i'll respond to your response here. i know groups can and do get deleted however provided you make the effort to make a 'group' seem legitimate and edit it on more than one occasion basically it can stay forever. --J3D 03:44, 18 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Whoops
Hey, thanks for the head's up. I didn't realise that's considered POV here. :) -pinkgothic 18:42, 13 July 2008 (BST)
- Haha, awesome. Well, you can always chew on me for a snack or put some bullets into me, I'm perfectly happy-go-lucky about that. XD Death cultism is fun. I'd probably be going that way if I had the time to roleplay Urban Dead, but alas... :) *tips hat to* I commend you for an excellent choice of colours! ;D -pinkgothic 19:40, 13 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Ideas
Thanks for your re: I agree with you, not going to the talk page was probably a dumb idea on my part & a thick skin is heavily required. I was more confused about the spams than kills, but maybe thats my misinterpretation of the spam "word usage," i mean a get it but then again maybe not. I still disagree with you that my idea is bad - perhaps my implementation is poor and needs revising, since there are glaring errors in AP/XP retribution or maybe they were things that I thought would happen, but I left them in my head - rather than on the page, as I thought they would be ass-u-me-d. With me? Anywho, I will port over that topic to talk and hopefully you can continue to help me develop it and we can hash it out a bit more there. Thanks!--Ashcorvin1 17:38, 11 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] WUB!
I WUB JOU LAWNG TIEM!!! <3 <3 <3 --/~Rakuen~\Talk
03:00, 8 July 2008 (BST)
- Well, I'm very flattered. And underneath that crusty and cynical exterior I can tell you're really very sweet. However, I'm really only looking to date local girls; the long distance thing is a no-go. I'm very sorry. I'm sure you'll find someone who's right for you. --WanYao 05:33, 8 July 2008 (BST)
- I've tried... But GioV isn't good for long term, and Anime hates me... and lastly, Grim ignored me!!! D: --/~Rakuen~\Talk
03:54, 9 July 2008 (BST)
- I've tried... But GioV isn't good for long term, and Anime hates me... and lastly, Grim ignored me!!! D: --/~Rakuen~\Talk
[edit] Zambah Gurls is EZ
heading that way now... watch out for Ben, just make sure you are not "non-discript" Those guys spook Ben and make him think he is surrounded by zombies! --Honestmistake 00:50, 5 July 2008 (BST)
- Ben Jammin is my Trenchie semi-death cultist. Nice chap, unless he finds hiself surrounded by the none discript!
- "Smartly dressed in all black clothing he has more guns than any one person should be allowed! Ben has tasted death and has no intention of feasting on brains ever again... The non-descript should be wary of him!"
As I say... mostly harmless (except on wednesday's) --Honestmistake 01:23, 5 July 2008 (BST) Well I got to St Joachims... sadly i got ate in the bank 2 blocks North so am stood on the doorstep looking stoopid :( How far away are you and do you have a spare needle? --Honestmistake 09:58, 7 July 2008 (BST)
Don't get me wrong; i don't mind being a zambah... it just makes it hard to say hello ;)--Honestmistake 00:46, 8 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Canada
I watched this video yesterday for some canadian beer that was just going on about canada. made me think of you :) Apparently they got bought by a us beer and had to stop running the ad...lol. Also, you've probably been asked this 1000 times but why isn't it called canadia?--J3D 01:21, 5 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] Sandbox Revolution
dont take it too seriously, its just a joke counter group. --Scotw 20:12, 3 July 2008 (BST)
- I know... But I am adamant about stuff like "colour" not "color" and "defence" not "defense" :)
[edit] Dunell Hills
I wasn't taking a shot at COMBAT REVIVE. Just pointing out that the closest thing to a survivor victory this year in Dunell Hills wasn't from the DHPD. And I'm not whining about anyone being out to get me. We're out to get each other. Humans call for other humans, I groan for other zombies, you shoot, we eat. That's the game. If you think I've got the facts wrong on any of this, my ears are open. Mahalo. -
#XX - Jack Sparta TMG 18:16, 30 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Invitation
I share your sentiments man, I wish it would stop too... but for every inch we give them they take a mile. They tried breaking into our forum and attacking us personally and even did vandalism on user and group pages. We've been picking our battles and I'm really glad there's a voice of reason around, Thanks man. But seriously, It'd be cool to have you visit our forums... --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 22:26, 27 June 2008 (BST)
- WanYao, I'm registering with beerhah, so we can better work together on whatever your boys got cookin in the DMZ.
If you could come to the DHPD forum so we can better correspond, I would appreciate it. Also, we can give you the proper hazin- err... I mean welcome... *whistles innocently* --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 22:20, 1 July 2008 (BST)
[edit] The Most Dangerous Zombie
Even though the credit for ransacking and killing survivors go to other zombies in Pimbank, I was the one who lured them all in. I destroyed the already weakened barricades to the Nuttall Museum and then went in and began to moan and kill. It seems to have worked very well, too. Evidently this is probably my first victory in conquering Malton. And also, please don't punch the stuffed monkey in the corner. --Arcology 19:13, 27 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] La la la
Mmm, shattering hopes and dreams. Nyet, I'm not coming back, though I suppose I could stop by this wiki filled with dusty memories and zealous users occasionally. And what's this about you stealing rat jokes? Huh?!--Lachryma☭ 19:33, 26 June 2008 (BST)
- So you are standing on the shoulders of giants? Fascinating. So anything earth-shattering happen in Malton lately, or has it been the same old zombie song and dance?--Lachryma☭ 20:22, 27 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] DORIS
Nice to know that you finally found the truth... :D --/~Rakuen~\Talk
19:15, 26 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] George Carlin Template
Keep this is you want - I made it after you told me about George Carlin's "passing away" from a "terminal episode." At least he didn't die. --Tselita 18:18, 26 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] You can take our lives, but you can never take OUR TEMPLATES!
| | Play on Names |
|---|---|
| This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? I, WanYao. I Want You. Not in -that- way. The Uncle Sam Military way. |
Congratulations WanYao. I was bored. So you benefit from my boredom by getting a Play on Names template. Enjoy. --Tselita 01:34, 26 June 2008 (BST)
- O_O !!! that doesn't translate off IRC, but oh well...
Please go to http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Deletions and vote Keep so that the Grimch doesn't try to delete the template I made for you (and others). Thank you. --Tselita 13:12, 27 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Curious about your abitration case.
I'd understand if you declined to answer. But I'm just curious about your case. I noticed that the barricade plan seemed to have stabilized in a zombie plan, official plan, and locked down plan even before the protection. So my question is, is that unacceptable? If so, what makes it so? It's obviously tongue in cheek, but the last version seems "neutral" enough. Again, this is just for my own personal edification/curiosity. If you consider it any kind of imposition, please delete this and think nothing more of it. Thanks.--Jack's Cold Sweat 05:35, 24 June 2008 (BST)
- The current version says something about the DHPD plan being of "historical interest" only... This is a backhanded attempt by the Dead to slight the DHPD and to propagandise themselves and is thus not NPOV. Meanwhile, there was nothing wrong with my previous edit which was something I literally swiped right off the Ridleybank wiki and changed the names involved. I made every effort to create a neutral page. Which Capt Schwartz edit-warred quite blatantly with me over. All said and done, Capt Schwartz appears to have made only a token gesture towards pseudo-NPOV and in reality just wants to take passive-aggressive shots at his group's declared enemy in Dunnel Hills. And, if you read the full history, you'll see Capt. Schwartz' blatantly offensive edits to the page... which he removed... but which IMO further demonstrate that his intent is passive aggressively disruptive, not constructive. And I have no problem with your question, in fact -- I thank you, you've helped me formulate my arguments for the Arby case. ;P --WanYao 06:18, 24 June 2008 (BST)
- Actually, mea culpa on one point: it seems CS may have removed the DHPD ARE BIG FAGGOTS comment rather than have written it? Can't really tell one way or another, though, whether that was some kind of underhanded edit, or an actual revert. --WanYao 06:41, 24 June 2008 (BST)
- Ah, well cheers then, glad to be of service. And thank you. :)--Jack's Cold Sweat 06:51, 24 June 2008 (BST)
- Actually, mea culpa on one point: it seems CS may have removed the DHPD ARE BIG FAGGOTS comment rather than have written it? Can't really tell one way or another, though, whether that was some kind of underhanded edit, or an actual revert. --WanYao 06:41, 24 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Open Door comments
Just making sure I read something correctly, you feel (and apparnetly Boxy feels as well) that the repair part of the suggestion should probably be removed, and just keep the Open doors making body dumping possible should be implemented? --Tselita 16:54, 23 June 2008 (BST)
- i think so ... i haven't looked at that since i flamed grim, cuz i haven't wanted to get into the drama again....
- When I take it to voting, I'll probably remove the repair part then. It seems to be where most of the contention is regarding the suggestion. --Tselita 01:33, 24 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Re
Ok, sure, you do what you think is best. I have to admit I didn't really read through it... ;-) I'll try to help out where I can --Nitro378 T JNL 08:36, 23 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] HIPS
Fucking hell. Your attitude stinks. We don't see eye to eye on a point in an article, and you immediately come onto my talk page swearing and threatening arby? Fuck you. People can work together on a page, you know, collaborate to make it better, but if you automatically revert anyone elses changes and swear at them, that isn't going to happen. Fine, it's not important. But your fucking attitude is shit. Keep the fuck off my talk page until you've got the ants out of your vagina. Garum 11:57, 22 June 2008 (BST)
- You unilaterally change the page. I revert it back. You change it AGAIN to your old edits. You justify your cocnerns and your edit. I make an edit that, I believed, addresses your concerns. Then you edit the page again. And you accuse me of having a bad attitude? Because I am pissed at your pedantry??? No. You get a grip. --WanYao 12:12, 22 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Good thing to reflect upon
Wan, I know we haven't frequently seen eye to eye, and I usually come off as trying to intentionally be contrary, but what you said on Nubis' page does make sense. Axe has told me the same thing - that I should just stop letting them get to me and stop responding to what they say. I know I let them -easily- goad me into arguments and I really should just ignore them - it tends to be hard for me to do so though when they persist, because I don't like it to look like I'm backing down. I'm going to try to ignore it when they taunt me more often though.
Okay, got that off my chest. Thank you for being the voice of reason there. I'm going to stop responding to what they say on their user pages about me - I guess the best way to let someone grief you is to let them see it's working and I've been falling for it repeatedly. --Tselita 00:05, 19 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Heh
Thanks for the reply. I love it how hard line rule following is far more important on this wiki then relevance. I mean the author could reply saying fuck you you shit head bitch and it'd stay, but a useful reply like that will probably get struck. We live in desperate times...and why aren't you irc?--J3D 10:07, 3 June 2008 (BST)
- Cuz I should be sleeping. Therefore I am hiding from IRC. Logical? Never said it was... ;P And, I moved the comment to the Talk page because, yeah, some prig would probably strike it... --WanYao 10:09, 3 June 2008 (BST)
- Yeah since i last archived i became pro-own talk page reply. It makes wiki-stalking people's conversations so much easier. the whole do unto others thing...--J3D 10:12, 3 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] I'm really srry
I wasn't trying to purposly kill ya alt in st. alex the other day. All i wanted to do was hit ya with a newspaper and tell ya to behave. My comp seemed to have stalled and stopped the menu. Reason why i dumped you was if ya rose ya'd have prob gotten killed again. Stand him up and i'll revive him and let ya kill me in return. The only people i try to PK are members of the LNTV Crue, a PK group that griefs us. Again srry for the killing. Drop a note on my talk page--Dragon fang 07:32, 3 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] Zombie XP Cost thing
In case you don't see it on the suggestion talk page, repeating it here. No WanYao, I wasn't referring to you as the person pushing buttons. I was referring to others. --Tselita 20:31, 27 May 2008 (BST)
- Wan Yao pushes only his own buttons!!! Oh... uhm... that didn't come out quite right... uuuuuhmm -- moi
[edit] My apologies..
to the fine zambahs of the MOB.. Omnus is one of our more...colourful members. We've tried every treatment imaginable with that one. Car Battery Shock Treatment, the Tube and Funnel of pilly fun, sock puppet shows, jingle keys, tying him up in the basement and leaving him in solid darkness for a few days on end.. and nothing seems to work. He's also a regular Houdini and flees our loving care facilities on an almost day-to-day basis. We'll try to right his wrongs in the future. xoxox ~ --Morgueasm 19:05, 27 May 2008 (BST)
- Sadly, his "good RP fun" bordered on text rape... -- moi
- That was far, far from text rape. I despise text rapists and am currently hunting one down repeatedly until he learns to stay far far away from Roftwood. That's typical smack talk. Infact it's mild compared to the things my PKer says. Maybe you're the one who takes this game too seriously.--Omegaomnus 06:37, 28 May 2008 (BST)
- I'd have to disagree on the text-rape thing as it's not like he gangbanged you with his banana, Wan. But I don't want to let this spoil any sort of zombie/food relationship we may have in the future. I liked the MOB enough to join 'em after I was eaten.. don't let what one person considers fun ruin the fun that could be had elsewhere. Just add him to your list and ignore him. *shrug* --Morgueasm 16:53, 29 May 2008 (BST)
- Ignore lists, yes, sure... But I do know I'm not the only one who felt his "trash talk" was over the top. And there is a big difference between using a humourous fruit allegory in a sexually suggestive manner versus explicitly describing sexual functions and content. The comments were not funny, they were not some kind of ironic RP "fun", and I don't care if that's how jocko macho assholes talk to each other in the locker room: in real life I avoid people who think that bullshit is "funny"... and call 'em on it, if I am exposed to it, as well, I'm funny that way, I guess... Anyway, ignore list, yeah, sure... Ciao... --WanYao 22:34, 29 May 2008 (BST)
- I'd have to disagree on the text-rape thing as it's not like he gangbanged you with his banana, Wan. But I don't want to let this spoil any sort of zombie/food relationship we may have in the future. I liked the MOB enough to join 'em after I was eaten.. don't let what one person considers fun ruin the fun that could be had elsewhere. Just add him to your list and ignore him. *shrug* --Morgueasm 16:53, 29 May 2008 (BST)
- That was far, far from text rape. I despise text rapists and am currently hunting one down repeatedly until he learns to stay far far away from Roftwood. That's typical smack talk. Infact it's mild compared to the things my PKer says. Maybe you're the one who takes this game too seriously.--Omegaomnus 06:37, 28 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Dear Mr. Wan Yao
As president of Umbrella it is not my job to make up lies or spread propaganda for the soul purpose of the corporations gain, because we have a whole cell responsible for that. In Ridleybank we had an operation, now we have had operatives down there for quite some time from one of our platoons and the U.B.C.S. For you and others to completely disregard our presence as merely trying to steal the spotlight is a complete fallacy. Just because we put our name and not the other survivor groups listed in people names does not make us crooks, I am sure you don't go around the suburb clicking every single persons name just to find out what group they are in and then click their forums to see how long they have been there. So you can blame me for not giving credit where credits due but I am not going to try and research for something like this. We had an operation and completed it, I didn't go out and say, "Only thanks to Umbrella this suburb is now safe." or something cloche like that, so stop attacking me like I did. Please edit your rudeness as this is obviously a misunderstanding. We want the support of Survivors not the image of an evil corporation, (even though we are) that is why we have so many allies because we seek them. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Sincerely, Umbrella Corporation President, --Jackson 22:48, 27 May 2008 (BST)
- All it takes is a perusal of the Ridley News, and a tiny bit of knowledge about recent Malton "history," to know who's been in Ridley since the start of the "reclamation". And... apparently I am far from the only one who took offence with what was widely seen as a usurpation of the credit for getting Ridleybank safe (Excusion III notwithstanding). And, furthermore... can't you fekkin' read? new comments at the top, please, sheeeeesh... --moi
- However... I was out of line. It's been removed.
[edit] Imperiuum Must Die
That is a community page so anyone can edit it, it must also be NOV. If he wanted to make a properganda page he should have done it in his groups namespace.--Thekooks 19:38, 17 May 2008 (BST)
- Arguing and edit-conflicting over the definition of "invasion" is wholly pedantic. Let it be, man... This is a fucking GAME already... And if GL wants to take it all waaaaaaaaay too seriously, well why not let him? And... for all intents and purposes it WAS an invasion: a bunch of outsiders came in and started killing locals... Okay, maybe it was a TERRORIST attack... But hey if such distinctions are over George Bush's head, they can be over the wiki's head... ;p In any event, the whole fucking page is a joke and IMNSHO can't be made NPOV. EVAR. It needs to be scrapped or as you said made into a group subpage. --WanYao 19:47, 17 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Open Discussion about Sysops
| WanYao said: |
| No - Cyberbob is a stupid prick... But he's right this one time. --WanYao 12:41, 15 May 2008 (BST) |
Huh? I'm confused. --ZsL 19:03, 15 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Grim's open discussion
It's just me or you just voted both sides on the Boxy header? --Starplatinum 14:41, 15 May 2008 (BST)
- Yup... I went in and did a bunch of voting, including changing a couple and fucked up. Thanks for catching it.
- Weird... Funt did the same on AHLG... ;P --WanYao 14:56, 15 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Shore Hills Barricade Plan
Hello, it seems the Barricade Plan for Shore Hills you recently published contains a small error: While Towning Street [35, 57] (not being a building) is marked EHB, the Carslake Towers [35, 58] below are not marked at all. The "EH" tag probably just ended up in the wrong block. Would be nice if you could fix that. Regards, G F J 18:20, 10 May 2008 (BST)
- not my work... i merely cleaned up the suburb's wiki page... --WanYao 19:17, 10 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] 300 worse than Waterworld?
WTF? Waterworld was way worse than 300. For one thing, it had Kevin Costner in it. If Kevin Costner was in 300 then maybe I'd agree with you --Barton 18:15, 9 May 2008 (BST)
Holy Nercomancy Batman ... In any event I vaguely remember saying this, but not where or in what context... bottom line is that 300 is garbage. Atrocious acting, worse dialogue... bizarre closeted homoeroticism, overt racism and pathetic (though typical, sigh...) Yankee imperialist jingoism... And totally erroneous history. Hell, even the fight scenes were like some teched-up wannabe Shogun Assassin movie set in ancient Greece... I'd rather the samurai splatter schtick originals, thank you... Anyway, Waterworld sucks, yup -- but I don't hear people screaming THIS IS WATERWORLD!!!!!!! everywhere...
And... Sparta institutionalised homosexuality in its army. This is a fact. I'm not homophobic at all... But I wonder about the legions of shreaking FOR SPARTA!!! freaks... How'd they'd feel knowing that half the reason these men fought so hard (no pun intended, but accepted) ) was because they were fighting alongside their lovers... Read Plato, he adopts the Spartan attitude towards homosexuality in the military... Or whether they "got" the all weeeeeird homoerotic imagery and visual suggestiveness in the movie... or got off on it, hmmmmnnnn?? --WanYao 19:13, 10 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Hey
Hey. I know we've gotten off on the wrong foot with each other in the past and I'd like to bury the hatchet (not literally). I'm sending stuff like this to a few people (not everyone I've been in an argument with, but ones who I think the arguments could have been avoided), because I don't think people should get so worked up over a wiki, and I'd like to be more sociable with you in the future. Thanks in advance. --Tselita 20:38, 8 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Thanks
Yo, thanks for making a NPOV version of my post. I tried to make it NPOV myself but as I was under alot of pressure IRL that proved to be a very daunting task. again, thanks. The man 19:22, 8 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/NPOV#Voting Section
! -- AHLGTH 01:12, 1 May 2008 (BST)
[edit] Your Great Fire Category deletion vote
Is ridiculous. You complain about category spam "delete - erm why should this category exist, and be tagged onto locations? down with category spam. period." yet for no apparent reason you've added your sandbox to the category. Was that purely to undermine the case so others would see how junk filled the category was? Or perhaps i'm being unfair and there is a legitimate explaination like the page used to have Great Fire stuff on it and you simply overlooked removing the category...--J3D 02:59, 16 April 2008 (BST)
- yeah fair enough...did seem awful dodgy to me though...--J3D 10:31, 19 April 2008 (BST)
- rolls eyes... and wonders why he's wasting valuable vacation time on wiki drama... hmmmnn... --WanYao 20:09, 21 April 2008 (BST)
- Oh come on! I flick through to see whats in the category and there's WanYao's sandbox! What was i s'pose to think? And enjoy the holiday, if you need to relax try ALiM ;) --J3D 05:13, 22 April 2008 (BST)
- It was an accident, an oversight, sheesh. I'll delete this silly thread later... :PP --WanYao 17:41, 24 April 2008 (BST)
- Oh come on! I flick through to see whats in the category and there's WanYao's sandbox! What was i s'pose to think? And enjoy the holiday, if you need to relax try ALiM ;) --J3D 05:13, 22 April 2008 (BST)
- rolls eyes... and wonders why he's wasting valuable vacation time on wiki drama... hmmmnn... --WanYao 20:09, 21 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] Re: POV in suburb news sections
I'm not exactly sure what to do when fixing this, and I thought I'd ask you, since your infamous for it. Do I remove the POV material from the news post and leave the facts as they are or do I just delete the whole post? Or move it to the talk page? Or do something I didn't think of? Thanks in advance. -Ornithopter (Talk | contribs) 04:38, 12 April 2008 (BST)
- editing someone else's post is impersonation, so don't do that. The best action to take (if you feel you must remove the news that is informing people and doing no one any harm) then always copy it to the talk page and delete it from the main page.--J3D 02:57, 16 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] Many apologies
Allow me to apologise for jumping off the handle at you. I obviously don't know who is in what groups, and I don't stalk you so I don't really know what you do (I had a quick glance through your contribs before voting). Thankyou for your courteous reply and explanation, and once again, sorry for the knee-jerk reaction. Jonny12 talk 23:31, 10 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] Dear Wan
I know we do not get along in this place, but I will swallow a little pride because I do want to enlighten you on a few of my positions within this wiki, just to clear a few things up, so that even if we disagree in the future, we can respect each others reasoning. I though I would take this initiative before throwing my weight into any more contests concerning the 2 Cool (edit: yes I am in the BBK with them, but they truly do have alter egos when it comes to Wiki editing) group. Look, I do not belong to the group, nor do I want to, they are a bit gay to be honest, but I must let you know that I do see what they are trying to do here. Their efforts are a little misguided, I will be the first to agree on that, and sometimes it feels that they are making pages for the sake of creating drama. Now, the reason I throw myself so heavily into these Arkham issues, is that I know both these users on a personal, real life basis. One is actually a very close friend of mine. When I hear about their bright ideas, it frustrates me to see people like Finis come along and post their pages for deletion just to cause drama. If Finis leaves these pages alone, they go unnoticed until they reach their final stages, or even a more constructed version of their current status. The first thing that gets me cut is that Finis scurries away to his lie-filled user page, feeling all content with what he has caused, while everyone else is left to debate over their possessions, so to speak. Of course they are going to defend their pages with everything they have, it's human nature. I step in here because I feel like they are already pigeonholed into this ideal that they are only out to cause trouble. This is totally not true, they constantly work with the ALiM page, working on it all the time. They have recently taken steps to make it seem more official as it has gained popularity and they want to show people they are not just idiots. I am just a protective person. It's in my nature, and when I see people I know getting bullied by big bad sysops, I really feel like I need to have my two cents worth. I know that this makes me become one of them, but I guess I am. I know we seem like little pricks, but really we are just here to have a little fun and our personalities lead us to detest the people who want to make this place so grey and dull when it has the full potential to be full of excitement and a great advertiser for the game.
I know our past with Finis has meant that we are seen on his level, but you have to understand that we learnt a LONG time ago that he is never going to reach puberty, and will always sit behind his keyboard getting highs of the reactions he pulls from people. (Even there, it looks like im seriously pissed at him, but I am truly not) we have just learnt the only way to have fun with Finis is to rip on him, and watch his whole world fill with glee at the attention. The comments we make to him now, are totally in a jovial nature. 100% Jocular, as thats the only way to enjoy Finis. Sometimes we fly off the handle and he does get to us, but that is only because we cannot understand the motives of someone like this. Why does someone want to continually create drama for us... I hope that has cleared the whole Finis fiasco up.
As far as my intentions on this wiki go, I never want to be considered someone who does tireless effort for the betterment of this wonderful wiki. I want to enjoy it, because it is a great addition to my favourite game. It sucks because we have been predetermined into this silly role on the wiki, and nothing we now say is taken seriously. I hope you can step into our shoes and imagine what it is like to be a user on the bad side of the most active sysops. Once they hate you, theres only one way back, and some of us seasoned debaters (as I can tell you are) have a hard time swallowing pride to those of virtual authority, especially when they know their contributions would be seen in a different light considering the circumstances. Half the reason these battles escalate so far and become so personal is because they really feel personal. Like the case is being dealt with a certain way, different to how it usually would.
We all just want to have our contributions heard and understood. Wan, I respect what you do (sometimes..haha), and I hope that this ridiculously long message sheds some light and hopefully mends some bridges burnt in previous posts. Geez, Sucking up your pride is hard to do.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 17:52, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it, and I hope we can get along a bit more in the future.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP
14:14, 11 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] Nomination
UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#User:WanYao here I think you will make a good adition to the team, even if we dont see eye to eye on certain things, I do beleive you see the wiki as it should be. And its not like you don't already do a heck of a lot of what some Mods do anyway. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 18:16, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Following up... As a MOD you wouldn't be required to do anything more than you are doing now and would have a few more resources to do what would needed to be done. If you feel the need you can even avoid certain areas of MOD responsibility (Vandal Banning, for one can be a slippery slope). I woould look at the various policies (past and presently being discussed) however, and let people know where you would have stood on various issues. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 20:19, 9 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] My AP suggestion and zerging
| WanYao said: |
| Some of us... consider the last sentence something called multi-abuse. As I said... your suggestion encourages zerging... as, apparently, do you personally. Goooong! Next, please. |
WanYao, I'm curious why you consider that zerging. You have 2 characters, but they are at different, random locations, one character gets abandoned almost immediately, and they never attack the same target (they don't get the chance.) Have I overlooked something? In any case my suggestion (flawed as it may be) was intended to prevent this. --Explodey 11:55, 8 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] DHPD Deletions Stuff
Let me demonstrate what I wrote in another way:
- Yea Drive Police Department - Make it its own location page w/o the DHPD stuff.
- Broadbelt Grove Police Dept - Make it a redirect to Broadbelt Grove Police Department.
- Then create Broadbelt Grove Police Department, w/o the DHPD stuff.
- Cotty Street Police Dept - Make it a redirect to Cotty Street Police Department.
- Then create Cotty Street Police Department, w/o the DHPD stuff.
- Dunell_Hills_Police_Department - Make it a redirect to DHPD.
I agree with you on the points you made, and I think this illustration is a good solution. --ZsL 20:51, 4 April 2008 (BST)
Put my reply to your comment in the appropriate spot; but the reason I'm writing here is that I wished to apologize for misspelling your name. I've been trying not to typo on it, but I guess I missed one. My sincere apologies... --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 07:52, 9 April 2008 (BST)
[edit] Suggestions/radios
I responded to your concerns about walkie talkies, and look forward to you reply. Thanks--Airborne88T|Z.Quiz|PSS 01:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Dude, I am not "Mad or upset" w/you. You are entitled to your opinions. It is just a suggestion..--Airborne88
T|Z.Quiz|PSS 08:57, 30 March 2008 (BST)
[edit] Tactics
Well, since we've getting plenty of chances to learn by doing these days, it's not surprising we decided to share the good word. As we both know, it's all pretty obvious after you spend a lot of time in dead zones. The actual sense of zombie apocalypse makes the game more fun.
Oh, I always meant to thank you for your many suburb news updates, they're generally the most reliable. Cheers.--Nuabreed 00:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] A/VB
Watch where you're aiming the editing gun next time, okay? :D --The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85 Sheep to spam: Always ! 13:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't be sorry mate, I was just throwing a bit o' flak at ya'. :P --The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85 Sheep to spam: Always ! 18:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Arbitration
UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Thekooks vs WanYao.--Karekmaps?! 10:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] What on earth do you think taht you're doing?
Why did you delete all of the information for March 22nd 2008 on the Dulston wiki page? Most of it was in fact relevant to the situation, and in fact news. From what I can see from below, you appear to enjoy doing this and destroying the wiki. Yonnua Koponen 21:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Cross-posted for Clarity. Read this before complaining about News deletions.
People are posting blatant POV and tactical/planning information to the News. The News is supposed to be neutral reportage. It is not a place for either side to coordinate tactical responses. Or propagandise (emphasis added). That's for forums, in-game communications and/or the suburb talk pages. The posts I deleted were not appropriate NPOV News items, and if you disagree... well... take it to abry? --WanYao 22:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok... I'll move the POV stuff to the Talk pages... where it's fine... rather than deleting it. That, I am going to admit, is what I ought to have been doing... It is my hope that this compromise will work for you. --WanYao 22:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Much better, but taht stuff was gone when i looked at the page. Also, you say theres no promotion of yourself, have you read teh dulston wiki page since 2005? Its full of Caleb Usher And Dulston allaince propoganda.Yonnua Koponen 22:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! its wan vs the world!!--J3D 04:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Much better, but taht stuff was gone when i looked at the page. Also, you say theres no promotion of yourself, have you read teh dulston wiki page since 2005? Its full of Caleb Usher And Dulston allaince propoganda.Yonnua Koponen 22:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] North Blythville's Description
Hey WanYao, please don't remove the description for North Blythville! You might be thinking you are being righteous by taking a literal NPOV, but we all like our description the way it is! By all means you can add that the The Dead have trashed it if you want for a recent putrid flavour..--Jake T Weber 00:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)