User talk:Xoid/Archive

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Contents 1 Important Stuff 1.1 Private Discussion 1.2 Voting Deadline 1.3 Promotion 1.4 Re: Talking about irritating users... 1.5 Recruitment Page 1.6 Moderatorship 1.7 Re: Vandalism 1.8 Forgot to sign 1.9 Re: Speedy Deletion? 1.10 Attempt to find resolution and common ground 2 Editing the Wiki 2.1 A better way to strike 2.2 Rhodenbank Locations 2.3 Suggestion page 2.4 Archives 2.5 If you'd like to know why... 2.6 Question 2.7 Darth Sensitive's Signature 2.8 My Template 2.9 Deleted things 2.10 Resource Building grids 2.11 You, sir, deserve a medal as well 2.12 NPOV 2.13 Hey just to let you know... 2.14 Did I Even Look 2.15 Searching Explanation 2.16 Re: Boo 2.17 Because "display: inline" makes me happy 2.18 Project Welcome 2.19 You know you wanna 2.20 Speedy Deletion Archive 2.21 Redirects? 2.22 Insert A Title 2.23 Proof that Our Time Is Here 2.24 Template 2.25 Abstain section 2.26 Resurrecting Deleted Pages 2.27 Fist Inclusion 2.28 Thanks for the date 2.29 Meh? 2.30 Question about the deleting on Stanbury Village 2.31 Helping on the suggestion's page 2.32 ULC Wiki Page 2.33 Template problems 2.34 New Groupbox template 2.35 Insertion exploit doesn't seem to work from default namespace 2.36 Vandalism? 2.37 Locationblock/Suburbblock Links 2.38 Thanks for Reverting 2.39 Deleted my suggestion 2.40 Stanbury Village 2.41 Started adding maps 2.42 Suburb block 2.43 Location headings in grouped pages 2.44 Re: Bad Boy 2.45 Talk page 2.46 Short tempered people 2.47 Wacky JG Templates 2.48 Page edit 2.49 I Get The Picture 2.50 Fire Stations and Police Departments 2.51 Shrek 2.52 Buggers 2.53 Oakes Arms 2.54 Archiving 2.55 Re: Template 2.56 Help 2.57 Unknown rule 2.58 Peer Rejected Suggestions 2.59 Suggestions editing 2.60 Wish I could fix it 2.61 Adbot score 2.62 From the RK 2.63 Locationblock template 2.64 Typo 2.65 Speedy deletions 2.66 Policy thingy 2.67 Adbot blocking? 2.68 Blinkage 2.69 New guide (possibly) 2.70 About an edit of yours... 2.71 User page 2.72 Major overhaul 2.73 Re: Disambiguations 2.74 Locations List 2.75 General Edit Question 2.76 Cinema Images 2.77 Re: Huff, Destroy, and Annihilate 2.78 Re: Starr Building 2.79 Re: Various Help Pages 2.80 My Navigation Bar 2.81 Grim's Page 2.82 Re: I weep for the space! 2.83 Speedy Deletions 2.84 Re: Your signature 2.85 Re: Speedy Deletion Round 2 2.86 Groupbox 2.87 Deleting // bad Page names 2.88 B.L.A.D.E 2.89 Re: Your User Page 2.90 Re: From Xoid 2.91 Re: Redirects 2.92 Tables 2.93 Wiki Timeline 2.94 Edit Summaries 2.95 Re: XHTML vs HTML 2.96 Howdy Cat 2.97 My Signature 3 Criticism 3.1 From Amazing 3.2 From Love Duke 3.3 Dog Deever 3.4 A thing 3.5 Sniping 3.6 Rip purr 3.7 Revivification Points 3.8 The Corleone Family 4 Praise 4.1 From Jedaz 4.2 From Conndraka 4.3 From Dog Deever 4.4 From Bob8914 4.5 From Undeadinator 4.6 From Wifey 4.7 From Cyberbob 4.8 From RWXSM 4.9 From Mia 4.10 From Bob8914 4.11 From Brizth 5 Pointless Chatter 5.1 Whats the point... 5.2 Botfixing 5.3 PKer Alliance 5.4 I know 5.5 Re: I noticed… 5.6 Yes, yes you can 5.7 Glad You Can Take A Joke 5.8 DHPD 5.9 Category:Templates 5.10 I have to tell you... 5.11 Deal 5.12 Will the Real Conndraka Please Stand Up 5.13 Re: Suggestions thing 5.14 It's at the top. Happy? 5.15 Fuck you. 5.16 Duck and cover 5.17 Puns 5.18 I hate thinking up titles 5.19 New template 5.20 Something going on? 5.21 I wonder what'll happen (nothing?) 5.22 Vigour Mortis vs. Lurching Gait 5.23 I gibbed him, senor! 5.24 Boring 5.25 Abstaining 5.26 You Broke My Talk Page Bob 5.27 The Corleone Family 5.28 Checking another rule 5.29 Wow 5.30 Email 5.31 With regards to this vote: 5.32 Your email 5.33 Re: SHIT! 5.34 Lexicon 5.35 Honours vs. Honors 5.36 Re: Your Vote 5.37 Membership 5.38 Opinion 5.39 Checking a Rule(Possibly) 5.40 Thanks 5.41 Unhappy 5.42 Channel 4 News Team 5.43 Recruitment Ads 5.44 Firefox 5.45 Suggestion 5.46 The Forum 5.47 A prince, sir! 5.48 More Help? 5.49 The blatant, willful ignorance that Labine50 exemplifies 5.50 Malton Postal Service 5.51 Re: Criterion 9 5.52 Sig Help 5.53 Wouldn't it be great 5.54 "Rape his corpse"??? 5.55 Deletions 5.56 Sorry 5.57 Wheels 5.58 Delete 5.59 Mattiator 5.60 Re: Huh? 5.61 Amazing 5.62 Project Wiki Patrol 5.63 Danke! Wiki has a God. 5.64 Policy idea 5.65 Cool signature 5.66 In case you care 5.67 Who are you, and what have you done with Xoid? 5.68 Yes, I'm working on another project 5.69 You're Important to me, why? 5.70 No Problem 5.71 BME Brent? 5.72 Confused 5.73 Rejoining the MPD 5.74 n00b 5.75 Re: Not Wiki Gate2? 5.76 Template:Manbagz 5.77 Template: N00b hater 5.78 My suggestion 5.79 Stupidity template 5.80 Mattiator 5.81 MPD Member 5.82 Signature 5.83 Re: Why the blanking... 5.84 Freddie, Dog turds and Deletions 5.85 Total side-note 5.86 5th of November 5.87 Don D Crummitt 5.88 Re: Feedback 5.89 Mod Bid 5.90 Re: Excuse Me, But... 5.91 Rage Against the Machine 5.92 Re: Sweet Zombie Jesus! 5.93 Re: Vote you for mod?

[edit] Important Stuff

Mainly for announcements and messages from moderators or arbitrators. Serious stuff goes under this heading.

[edit] Private Discussion

Go to http://modofmod.proboards99.com/index.cgi for Mod Discussions Conndraka^{mod T W!} 19:19, 4 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Voting Deadline

Sorry, I was being stupid. It will never happen again. --Changchad ^{WTF•W!•SGP} 22:20, 29 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Promotion

Congratulations on the promotion, and welcome to the Moderation team. Please make sure to go through Moderation/Guidelines, so you know the general guidelines, and make sure to re-read instructions on each of the Moderation pages, so you know the specifics of each. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 15:17, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Thank you. And yes, I will read the guidelines. I'd have to be a numbnut to not read 'em after all my bitching about others not doing the same. (That probably didn't come out the way I meant it.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:20, 28 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Re: Talking about irritating users...

Previous message may be found here.

Nominate it under criteria 11 of speedy delete. --Vista ^W! 15:45, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Talking about irritating users… one of them just got promoted. Go get the adbots you dirty bugger. --Vista 12:57, 28 May 2006 (BST)

It's still gonna be hard to catch up in the score, many a time has an adbot been banned within minutes of it doing something. It leads to rather amusing block logs though. Not as funny as the time where I think about 5 or 6 different mods banned the one vandal on Uncyclopedia within seconds of each other though. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:00, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Minutes? Seconds I would say :D Anyway, congrats! --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 13:11, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Thank you. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:26, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Hey Xoid! We're promotion batch buddies! :D --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 13:29, 28 May 2006 (BST)

I see you didn't forget Karlsbad. Funny I got promoted before you though. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:44, 28 May 2006 (BST)

I'm sure it was just a mistake :P --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 13:47, 28 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Recruitment Page

Thanks for the letting me know and for the revert. I will be checking the history for any updates which may have been lost in it. --John Rove 02:42, 21 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Moderatorship

I'd like to point out that you've been nominated for modship. --Sirens^{T RR} 18:46, 13 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Re: Vandalism

link — Impersonation or changing comments made by other users is considered vandalism, as there are migating circumstances you're not getting a warning but don't do it again.--Vista ^W! 11:35, 10 May 2006 (BST)

I fail to see how either of the alterations to his text can be considered impersonation. Provocation? Yeah he provoked me, but I still did nothing wrong. I did not twist his signed comment's meaning in any way, shape or form.

And if this is about that bolded text up top…

That could not be taken as impersonation by any rational human. The only logical conclusion that could be drawn was:

• This "Xoid" who disagreed with Rip purr left Rip purr nasty message up above.

How does making myself look like an arsehole do him any ill, on the contrary it hurts my reputation more. Am I getting threatened with a vandal report for doing something that goes against my interests? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:25, 10 May 2006 (BST)

I know it can't be taken as impersonation by anybody rational, it's just the term we use for altering the tone and/or meaning of a conversational text entered by somebody else. (text formatting/spell-checking doesn't count as long as it's clearly to improve the legibility of the text, without altering the wording.) Now it was clear that your changes were not a big deal for the reasons you gave and some others. Now I was annoyed at him for being a obnoxious little tit and I was at rear end of my luchbreak at work, so my text to you to explain this rule was rushed and not of the tone I'd like it to be. It was more to alert you that that rule exists, (I doubt it is practised in this form in many places.) just like blanking of your own talk pages is allowed here, just extremely bad form. (Certainly in the Codename V case.) And because it was on the talk page that has way too many flame fests I didn't give him the talking to he richly deserves. But that is remedied now. --Vista ^W! 18:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Forgot to sign

UDWiki:Moderation/Deletions#Yosemite Sam. Nuff said. Well, and your talk page is confusing. I just put this here since I couldn't think of a better place. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 10:52, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Come to think of it, it is a lil' ambiguous. Ok, so I've signed, and I'm in the process of rectifying the confusing state of this page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:56, 10 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Re: Speedy Deletion?

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here. COPYEDITED — This part of the discussion has been checked for grammatical, spelling and coding errors that the linked version still contains.
Speedy Deletion? Under speedy deletions served, for "And These" you said Done. The redirect - The RFM Expeditionary Team is still there. Did you miss it, or did it not meet the criterion? –Xoid S•T•FU! 13:58, 2 May 2006 (BST)

Sorry, my mistake. Rectified. --'STER-Talk-Mod 19:34, 2 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Attempt to find resolution and common ground

Because of the near perfect split on the discussion of Language an Offensive Users I created a page where maybe we can find an acceptable solution. If not, well at least I tried. Page can be found Moderation/Locational Language/Interaction I took on the mantle of responsible party so that even the MODs can state thier ideas and opinions. Conndraka 19:06, 22 April 2006 (BST)

[edit] Editing the Wiki

If what you want to talk about does not make sense under the other headings — Important Stuff, harsh Criticism, Praise, or Pointless Chatter — then it belongs under this heading.

[edit] A better way to strike

Just letting you know that I've created a new template, {{Strike}}, that should allow us to strike comments and other things in a superior way to how we normally strike things. Once the wiki is updated and we can use templates inside of other templates, this will be even handier (e.g., we can use it on the suggestions page). Here's an example of it in action: while right now we strike things, it's even better to strike them in style. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 21:04, 29 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Rhodenbank Locations

First off thanks for the link to the style guide and fixing up the mistakes I made. Anyway I've got a question to ask you, should the Necrotech buildings for Rhodenbank have a single page each (1 2 for example) or be combined like the factories because the info they've got is more or less duplicated? Foxalpha1 03:33, 29 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Suggestion page

speaking of 'speling' and grammer, do you think it would be okay if I corrected mistakes in my suggestion text without changing the suggestion itself? I don't want to edit it if I'm not allowed to now that peopple are voting, but I also don't want it to go to accepted or rejected with a ton of mistakes in retrospect. -- John Teabags 06:59, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Correcting spelling and grammar mistakes is specifically permitted, so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to. Just don't change the actual content of it or someone will remove it very quickly. Also: please note the notice at the top of my talk page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:04, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks for being the self-proclaimed "grammer nazi" that you are. I'm constantly having a go at my mates for spelling crud, then i go and do something as dumb as that. heh, whoops. -- RWXSM 01:05, 15 August 2006 (BST)

[edit] Archives

Did Maul make Amazing start archiving CDF stuff via arbitration? I was thinking about another group that doesn't archive..and want to PWN again.-That's Why I did your Wife 06:00, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Go for it. They've made blatantly false accusations in the past, and are constantly deleting your proof. Just dig up every example of that, and Legend X can pull out the KY. He's gonna be sore when arbitration is through fucking him over for his constant bullshit. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:03, 28 July 2006 (BST)

I just worry that I spam up arby with this sort of thing too much, not that it stops anything. I'm basically becoming bizarro amazing. troll lawyer FTW-That's Why I did your Wife 06:05, 28 July 2006 (BST)

This sort of thing is what Arbitration is for: to overrule thick-headed fucks who twist the rules far beyond their spirit to get their way, or for serious disagreements about the content of a page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:13, 28 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] If you'd like to know why...

See here. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 19:25, 27 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Question

What loophole are you talking about? As far as I know there is no loophole to spamminate the Spam Vote Value petition. --Karlsbad 04:49, 27 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Darth Sensitive's Signature

he is using Darth Sensitive ^{Sith Lord•C•T•W!} as his signature. He needs to die, please back me up in telling him so. The conversation is on his talk page. We may have to start a petition to make him change it. If we cannot do that a policy vote on images in signatures may be in order. --Gage^CFT 01:48, 27 July 2006 (BST)

I'm just letting you know that you make PacMan cry. He will no longer be able to save you or the wiki from Blinky, Pinky, Inky, and Clyde. But as a token of good will, he'll live on on your talk page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/6/6b/Pacman.PNG --Darth Sensitive ^{Sith Lord•C•T•W!} 04:42, 27 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] My Template

	Hell
	This user is going to Hell.

put it on your user page already--Gage^CFT 22:06, 26 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Deleted things

Are you talking about the redirects to moderation pages? If so, what's the problem?--Toejam 12:30, 26 July 2006 (BST)

*bashes head against wall* --Cyberbob ^{Sys U!} 12:33, 26 July 2006 (BST)

*Bashes Toejam's head against the wall*--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 12:35, 26 July 2006 (BST)

What? Enlighten me. Oh, and sorry for putting this at the bottom of the section, I didn't see the notice. --Toejam 12:42, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Read here, they were deleted once, doesn't that give you a hint that recreating them is unwanted?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 12:48, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the link General, though I still don't really understand. Why fix hundreds of red links when a single redirect would suffice? Is there something bad about redirecting into a different namespace?--Toejam 13:07, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Any idea of exactly how much room that red link takes up, in it's long form, repeated over and over? Why not get off your arse and use the shortcuts kindly provided at the top of each moderation page, start fixing the links using those shortcuts, and start lowering the bandwidth requirement of the wiki? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:11, 26 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Resource Building grids

Hi Xoid - you asked "Any particular reason you are wasting your time with those grids? There is a map of the suburb below, complete with links to every location in it." - true, for most suburbs, but when all you want is a snapshot of the resource buildings, why poke through the entire map?

I didn't invent this Resource Building grid - I think I first noticed on the Pescodside page - but I think it's a great counterpart to the suburb information templates and the full maps. I don't think I'm wasting my time at all. Madpilot 10:27, 26 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] You, sir, deserve a medal as well

	Xoid's Bob Award
	For bitchslapping the wiki into shape, one shitty page, n00b, and edit conflict at a time.

–Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:33, 25 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] NPOV

Figured this would make most sense here. Yeah. The rules are poorly written. But in my experiance even things that have quite a bit of proof are often removed from the NPOV section - in most cases the NPOV section is bullshit and doesn't give nearly as complete a view of the group as it should simply because it seems that only positive things about the group are 'NPOV'. That's sounds reaaal unbiassed (as you can probably tell... I've had a few run ins with this problem >_<)

There are a few exceptions to this but most of these seem to be groups that people have abandoned. --Tethran 21:18, 24 July 2006 (BST)

Klaatu Barada BM*Coughingfit* There, I said it. well, most of it. On a more grown up note, maybe looking back at the original policy discussion about how to handle group page control would help clear this issue up.-That's Why I did your Wife 21:21, 24 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Hey just to let you know...

On the main wiki page it says 'There is one Policy Discussion under vote. All users are asked to vote.' But when you click there is nothing which is currently being voted on :). Want to do if your not busy my moderator friend?--Brendoshi 21:02, 24 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Did I Even Look

Yeah, I did. I forgot my FauxTML [/sarcasm] tag at the end. Could I get away with sticking them in? --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 15:28, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Yes, actually. I can't think of what it is off the top of my head, but your comment seemed too light-hearted to be sarcasm. Forgive me if I'm not as quick on the uptake as usual, it's late, my eyes feel like they're bleeding, and I've got a throbbing headache. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:32, 23 July 2006 (BST)

It's cool. And they're now there. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 15:39, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Can I ask though, what the "T" stands for in FauxTML? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:41, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Nothing, really. I just don't think that "FauxML" does as well as "FauxTML" at evoking the thought of HTML. Or, I could use </sarcasm> and have it be fake wiki markup. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 15:55, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Why bother trying to evoke the thought of HTML? There is SGML, XML, HTML, notice the pattern here? Markup Language is quite common, where as the other is not. I myself refer to wiki markup as WikiML. Meh. A pointless debate, but what do you expect from an insomniac like myself? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:58, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Eh. Because HTML is the only one I'm even mildly proficient in. And I know what you mean about insomnia. Some nights I'll just troll here and Wikipedia, following the pretty blue links. Hmm... what would fauXML tags look like? --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 16:01, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Like, WTF? If anything you're too pleasant. You don't troll. You might trawl through them, but that's a different word entirely. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:04, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Hmm - #2 on that page is closest to my meaning. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 16:08, 23 July 2006 (BST)

What d'you know? You learn something new every day. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:14, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Indeed. I haven't yet learned my "one thing" yet. I do wonder what it will be. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 16:16, 23 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Searching Explanation

on the talk page of UDWiki:Searching back in may you said you would do something within the week. I'm not entirely sure what you intended, but you asked to be messaged if you forgot, so I am. --Ybbor 23:17, 22 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Re: Boo

Hey Xoid. Ok 2 quick questions, I seem to have figured out the journal, Is there a way to edit the name? Mine says Journal: John Blast, I'd like it to be Journal:John Blast like everyone elses. If not, it's cool I can just leave it. Next I see that you left me a message on the journals talk page, except I didn't see it on the discussion page for the journal. Was it automaticaly created? if so, how do I get to it? Thanks. --John Blast 05:59, 22 July 2006 (BST)

First off thanks for the help so far, second what did you mean by use the preview button more often? Did I make a mistake somewhere? --John Blast 22:49, 22 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Because "display: inline" makes me happy

Who doesn't like a little sometimes? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:22, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Because that's what <code> is for. The {{code}} template was primarily added since it looks similiar to what a leading space would do, but isn't as harsh on the eyes. I mean, Uncyclopedia uses it for it's intended purpose, but I certainly haven't. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:25, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Correct, but if you haven't noticed, people have been using {{code}} when really they should be using <code> — because it sets things off nicely — but suddenly having a block-level element inline with a bunch of text looks like shit. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:30, 20 July 2006 (BST)

People are too dumb to use HTML and WikiML at the same time. Why am I not surprised. Hopefully Kevan will update MediaWiki. If he does, we can use {{CodeInline}} inside other templates. And I could finally sign by using

~~~~

on the suggestions page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:34, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Oh, that would be a glorious day. And it's coming. In fewer than two weeks. See Kevan's talk page. :) –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:39, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Oh I know that it was pending, but he might still might get run over by a bus in the meantime. :-p –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:41, 20 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Project Welcome

Hi! As I check Special:Recentchanges a lot when searching for newbies, I found out that you are one of the very few that actually spends some time sparing tips for the masses. I don't know why you didn't want to join the project, and it's ok for me, but you may want to check out this template. If you want to improve on it, you're welcome to do it. And yes, I copied that signature button tip out of one of your own tips =D --Matthew Fahrenheit ^{YRC | T | W!} 19:09, 18 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] You know you wanna

Brainstorm FTW. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:39, 18 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Speedy Deletion Archive

I had a look at the history. Interesting diffs by Cyberbob... [1] [2] and [3].

I pulled the missing stuff from the history and placed it into archive. Diff here. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 20:14, 11 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Redirects?

I notice that your turning "#Redirect [''insert page name'']" into "#REDIRECT [''insert page name'']". You do realize that there's no difference, don't you?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:42, 11 July 2006 (BST)

I had basically opened up every tab with the ones that needed to be changed, and it was only after I finished saving that I noticed that a few of them had already been gotten to in the mean time. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:44, 11 July 2006 (BST)

Ok. I'm surprised you didn't get an edit conflict?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:45, 11 July 2006 (BST)

MediaWiki seems to have taken a perverse disliking to me lately: I have been getting edit conflicts when nothing has changed, and not been getting them when something has, as well as everything inbetween. Extremely frustrating. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:47, 11 July 2006 (BST)

I can imagine......--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:49, 11 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Insert A Title

I think I just killed the suggestions page, very sorry, I have the page (before I touched it) cached, can someone help me fix it, my name is cockbeard I am a fool, I fully expect flaming but I'd rather fix the wiki first and take the abuse after, can someone please help me easier to use messenger cause I don't understand this wiki-stuff ben.usaf@ntlworld.com Cockbeard 10:37, 10 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Proof that Our Time Is Here

{{SecretShadowGroup}} –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:26, 10 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Template

Man, you have just up and disappeared. What happened? Oh, and: {{GoodOldDays}}. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 00:28, 9 July 2006 (BST)

Good ole days? I ain't an old timer. While I may know of what happened, it wasn't because I was there, it's merely because I've been quite fastidious in my studies. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:29, 10 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Abstain section

Why did you add a section for abstain votes to the policy discussion? The rules for that page say that "Only for and against votes are valid," so I assumed that abstain wouldn't be valid. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 17:39, 7 July 2006 (BST)

Damnit. CNR. Odd Starter included one for his policy, so I thought they were legit. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:50, 7 July 2006 (BST)

I'm always careful to ask instead of accuse in cases like this, because you know how this wiki is so great at keeping its policy pages accurate. ;) On a different note, have you noticed a sudden drop in activity on here lately? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 17:52, 7 July 2006 (BST)

Definitely. I can log in once per two days and nothing has fallen apart. ;-) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:11, 7 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Resurrecting Deleted Pages

Is it possible to retrieve pages that have been deleted, if I know the name of them? For example Shackleville Buildings. --Boxy 13:22, 6 July 2006 (BST)

Received and understood Boxy 00:03, 7 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Fist Inclusion

Seeking to engage in discussion on Template talk:AllAvailableItems on whether fist should be included as an available item. Ybbor 20:04, 2 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Thanks for the date

Thanks for the date for Template:Timeline, :)

and at the same breath, oh dear History so so screwed...

(This is an implied last ditch you know what):( --Akimbomidget 14:54, 1 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Meh?

For the Template:Timeline Template page which is used in History and hopefully other pages, i have a one question.

What was the exact date that this "Amazing" guy got banned?

The exact quote so far for this section i need to change is...

(cite date) Wiki Liberation Day (Amazing Got Banned)

Cheers. --Akimbomidget 12:29, 1 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Question about the deleting on Stanbury Village

I just noticed you deleted my entry concerning Stanbury Village, (and I do realize I am new here)...umm why? If you don't believe I will have screen shots taken of the interior and exterior of each section of the suburb. I am sorry but I can't see why this suburb would be considered remotely dangerous at this point. CYossarain 19:48, 1 July 2006 (GMT)

50+ zombies. That's all that matters. Sonny Corleone ^WTF 20:55, 1 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] Helping on the suggestion's page

Hey, i have voluntereed to help Bob on the suggestion's page here, but as stated there, we considered it wise to ask a moderator before i should be given right to strike out votes and such. So, here, with my promise to do my best to help and not be part of the trouble, and try to don't overstep my bounds, I offer my help in such affairs as i check the suggestions page quite often (almost all not quickly spammed suggestions have my votes lately). Tell me what you think. --Matthew Fahrenheit 07:46, 1 July 2006 (BST)

As long as you avoid the trolling votes, which the rules (idiotic as they are) prevent regular users from touching, you have no problems from me, and unlikely to have any from the other moderators. The less work we have to do, ;) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:31, 1 July 2006 (BST)

[edit] ULC Wiki Page

Hi Xoid, just in response to your message on the ULC discussion page. I can't seem to find how to make pages subpages. Can you point me in the right direction or tell me how to do it just so it all keeps it nice and tidy.

Cheers. Pillsy 16:20, 30 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Template problems

If you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate it if you would take a look at this and weigh in. Thank you! –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 03:26, 29 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] New Groupbox template

I've always found the {{Groupbox}} template a bit ugly, so I sat down and created a prettier, more XHTML/CSS-y version. Let me know what you think, and how I'd go about proposing a vote on whether or not my version should take over (since so many pages use the template, I think it's fair that the community should have a say in this kind of change). –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 18:26, 28 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Insertion exploit doesn't seem to work from default namespace

I initially tried placing our recruitment template on the non-talk page but using the expression {{Josephine's Generals/Recruitment|dt=whhenever}} causes the engine to search for the page in the Template: namespace. The form {{Talk:Josephine's Generals/Recruitment}} works in much the same way {{User:Xoid/sig}} does. ??? I didn't understand why but plunking the Talk: in there worked like a charm. See Josephine's Generals/Rec as used here Template:Josephine's Generals/Rec. I didn't particularly like the Talk: form either as it reeks of confusion. Thus the patter on the page about not posting discussion on the talk side... --Max Grivas ^JG,T,P! 10:20, 28 June 2006 (BST)

Hey, that colon thing is sweet! Thanks for the clue. I'll switch it around and put the others up for a speedy. --Max Grivas ^JG,T,P! 10:31, 28 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Vandalism?

If you've ever wanted to report Labine50 for vandalism, I think this might be your chance. I'm not willing to risk it myself, with my current bid for moderator, but take a look at his comment. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 23:13, 27 June 2006 (BST)

Other gems in other suggestions as well. Idiot. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 23:18, 27 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Locationblock/Suburbblock Links

I've been working extensively with Bob's {{Suburbblock}} and wanted to get some feedback on matters of style. If you have time, take a look at Barrville#Suburb_Map or Wykewood#Suburb_Map. I have been producing the maps so that blocks which often have there names altered as per the Style Guide display the name as they would be seen in the game yet link to the page as directed in the guide. Wanker Building would be 'the Wanker Building' when viewing the map but the click through would carry you to 'The Wanker Building' and similarly for St Whoever. There seems to be a great deal of inconsistency in how these presented and linked on many 9 block maps currently in place. Do you have any specific thoughts on how these should appear? --Max Grivas ^JG|T 07:29, 27 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Thanks for Reverting

Thanks for reverting the suggestions page; I didn't know where I made a mistake, but it made the page below that spot not appear. Thanks again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qhiiyr (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Deleted my suggestion

I noticed that you deleted my suggestion for static on radios when they are destroyed at suggestions. Was that an error, or did you mean to? And if you did, why did you? I noticed that a few paragraphs above my suggestion were deleted as well (and it broke midway into another suggestion), so it could have been an accident. Please let me know so I can restore it if it needs to be restored (or you can if you feel like it). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qhiiyr (talk • contribs) .

Note - this is the edit Qhiiyr is referring to. --Cyberbob ^{Sys U!} 10:23, 25 June 2006 (BST)

• Yep, that's the one. --Qhiiyr 10:25, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Ha! You can never be annoyed at me again when my browser does something like this, Xoid. 'Cause it looks like the same thing just happened to you. Cheers! --Cyberbob ^{Sys U!} 10:28, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Just got another conflict (ahem!) from posting this:Yeah, I know, different pages...I got a conflict while --Cyberbob ^{Sys U!} was posting. Understood, and thanks for restoring it. Haha, conflicts, conflicts. Thanks to both of you.--Qhiiyr 10:29, 25 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Stanbury Village

It doesn't go anywhere. It's in West Grayside already but that guy keeps putting it on Stanbury Village for some reason. Despite it not belonging there. Sonny Corleone ^WTF 16:28, 24 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Started adding maps

I've started adding suburb maps to all of the suburb pages (I'm just working my way across the map). I've developed a method that allows me to create the maps easily, so that's not a problem, but the generic buildings ("a warehouse," etc) are not linked automatically to their correct pages (e.g., "Warehouse xx,yy"). There may be other small errors too, but I haven't found any yet. Just to let you know, and if you're ever bored, feel free to pick your favorite suburb and tweak the map to bring everything up to par. I've done the first 10 suburbs so far. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 20:35, 23 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Suburb block

I've created a new template for the Locations project: {{Suburbblock}}. You can see it in action at the Darvall Heights page. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 22:10, 21 June 2006 (BST)

I had looked over that page before I made updates to it, and also looked over other fire station pages. I don't see what your point is. There's not much missing on that page, save for a map of the MFD District, which I personally thought was excessive. And while I do understand that my personal opinion doesn't matter, I looked at other FS pages and noticed that the District maps weren't present on a great many of them. If you could tell me exactly what -should- be added to the location Conolly Row Fire Station, then it would save us from more of this going back and forth. --Marked Grimes 21:27, 20 June 2006 (CST)

Hey hey, I think I got what you wanted changed, changed. Let me know if it needs anything else. --Marked Grimes 23:50, 20 June 2006 (CST)

[edit] Location headings in grouped pages

I may be wrong, but the last I checked, it doesn't work too well redirecting to a page with a third level heading. That is why I've been editing all location headings in a grouped page to have 2nd level headings so that #REDIRECT [[Yagoton Cinemas#Caseley Cinema]] would go directly to the appropriate section instead of the top of the page. --Nov ^{W!, M, T} 02:23, 21 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Re: Bad Boy

There is no such rule, actually. The only rule is that if request is moved from Speedy Deletions, then it will have to stay. Preventing authors moving wrongly placed deletion requests before any votes have been placed would be just stupid. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 11:04, 20 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Talk page

Thanks for reverting my talk page. I take it someone is trying to substitute it into some other page? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 18:25, 19 June 2006 (BST)

No idea… I tried looking afterwards if it had, but I know the ASS supporter template was using like 30 or 50 times. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:31, 19 June 2006 (BST)

[edit] Short tempered people

…has now been linked properly, methinks. I've also got "some idiot" working on making it more wiki-friendly. In other news, can you believe the hack job some idiot did on the Anstruther page? I swear.--Bulgakov 20:42, 17 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks man, it's been a treat hearing from you. As I noted on the sugg page, my problem is how people are flagged as zergers in the first place. F'rinstance, there were these 4 people, the 'onimoz family' who joined RCDC briefly back in the day. They all had similar names, and they operated together. I asked them if they were zerging. Their explanation was that they're a bunch of students in Mexico City who all share the same computer, which I though was cool, assuming it's true. Do they get flagged as zergers? I dunno. I wasn't really looking for your technical explanation, but I should have made that clearer. Whatever.

Re: this from your last post: "If you want to change that, "philosophy of uncaring" as I call it, then by all means speak up when these arguements start up, and help me make them see the average wiki-goer's veiw point. –Xoid M•T•U! 05:03, 18 June 2006 (BST)"

Well, I bet most average wiki-goers aren't encouraged by being called idiots when they screw up. Look, the guy that made the map will fix it when he gets the chance; I'll just PM him again now to hurry him along. We apologize for our transgression, and hope to have it remedied shortly. I think it looks cool. But I digress. I wouldn't really characterise the mods on this wiki as perpetuating a 'philosophy of uncaring;' but--as long as you're the one who suggested that--maybe you might ponder whether you're not also part of that problem. That's been my experience with you so far, anyway. Not a big deal. I'm aware of the amount of work you do for the UD community, and I respect that.--Bulgakov 07:58, 20 June 2006 (BST)

The map has been moved. I wasn't sure if I should delete it from the 'burb talk page as well. I did. I'm not as concerned about visual consistency as you are.

"When I said "philosophy of uncaring" I was talking mainly in regards to prevalent "There are people without 19" monitors? Who gives a shit!" attitude of more than a few."

Yes, that was clear. I submit that it might also apply to unnecessarily ca