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Important Stuff

Mainly for announcements and messages from moderators or arbitrators. Serious stuff goes under this heading.
Old "Important Stuff" messages may be found here.

Your Wiki Sockpuppet Policy?

Haven't seen much in the way of a revivsion: Did you make the link for your own eventual alterations, or are you waiting for others to contribute? Just curious, since it seemed like a good idea that needs a bit of work. --MorthBabid 01:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Forum Vandal

Some guy has been updating the danger level inaccurately, spreading mis-information, and changing other user's posts for ammusement... guy's name is FullSpectrum... please look into this, he changed the Dangerlevel of Dunell, and West Becktown to high above what it should be, stated the my precinct was destroyed, when we have at least half of it secure, and witch blades quote to "gang bang", i don't know exactly what else's he's done, but i don't think it's his first time vandalizing... thank you for your time. --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 19:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


Reetoric is a sockpuppet of Maxwell Hammer, although he's covering his tracks pretty good he slipped and made a few edits to a couple of pages. have a look at Nailing Down Dangerous Hotheaded Pseudo Dictators and see if that violates the spirit if not the law of Mia's arbitration hearing. I'm getting kinda tired of this crap you know? Conndrakamod T CFT 07:41, 26 October 2006 (BST)

If you report him for that and have IP data showing he is an alt, then I will declare that an arbitration violation.--Gage 07:47, 26 October 2006 (BST)
The remarks made here by whoever had access to the wiki account entitled Conndraka are libellous and need to be removed immediately. --ReeToric 09:22, 27 October 2006 (BST)

E-Mail sent your way Xoid... Check out the file History for image:DHPD. Conndrakamod T CFT 12:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you vote on First Aid Station Suggestion?

She's real close to making it into Peer Reviwed but not quite at 66% voting. It's under previous day's suggestions I think she's on her last day of voting.. I'd like a Keep, but no worries. So many of them go to Undecided lol, even It's Fisting Time! ended up in undecided, lol. Funt Solo has been kicking ass on suggestions, he has a new sniper rifle one, check it out! MrAushvitz Canadianflag-sm.jpg 21:12, 18 October 2006 (BST)

Tap on the shoulder

Hey, would you mind looking at this and updating the suggestions intro as described? The rules that are struck out are obviously no longer valid because of the template change and we wouldn't want people actually trying to enforce them. Thanks. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 02:11, 16 October 2006 (BST)


Wanna talk? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:37, 10 October 2006 (BST)

*cough* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:55, 13 October 2006 (BST)

From Conndraka

We've got a vandal which is setting up the Mods.. I've had to take care of both my page and BobHammero's in the last 30 minutes...Conndrakamod T CFT 03:40, 2 October 2006 (BST)

Have we imported the IP addy Ban list from Wikiperdia yet? Let me know because I want to do a bomb of Known proxies. I have a couple of lists that it would only take a few minutes to ban. Conndrakamod T CFT 06:31, 5 October 2006 (BST)

I've Started the Blocking... I got all of these and these will be moving on to these before I move on to my lists which are these and these respectfully. Once I have most of those logged I'll start searching for other open/zom-slave/anom proxies and drop the hammer on them as well. Conndrakamod T CFT 20:57, 9 October 2006 (BST)

Vandal reporting

Cisisero vandalized the predatorstalk page. he/she edited it just to harrass us, as it wasnt even broken down diplomacy. --Mayor Fitting 00:09, 7 October 2006 (BST)

whats the m/vb? --Mayor Fitting 00:48, 7 October 2006 (BST)

From assassins guild assassin

i did not vandlise the wiki. the wiki is by its nature a bunch of varous info put to gether by various people. when the info is incorrect people change it till it is. i saw the info on there page was wrong and changed it. i will not delete the entire page like i have done in the past but i will change any and all pages to show the correct infomation. --ag 18:52, 3 October 2006 (BST)

hey xoid just wondering im pretty sure theres no rules on this but i wanted to make sure lest i be banned again. i want to make a new group called "Philosophe Knights " problem being that the group name is already taken. now theres no rules saying i cant make a group(and i plan on mantaining the page) but what happens when two groups have the same name? do we share the page? or is there a rule stateing exactly that first come first serve? --ag 18:52, 3 October 2006 (BST)
Ha! No, you do not get rights to edit their page. I wouldn't advise making a page of a similiar name in an attempt to impersonate them either lest they bring an arbitration case down on your head. –Xoid MTFU! 09:19, 3 October 2006 (BST)
Hey.. It would be possible to create a page called "Penis Formation Masses" or something like that and then change PFM to disambiguation page. Right? Most PFM links are there, because they were too lazy to write their whole name. I'm not saying that I WOULD do it. I'm saying that it would be possible. *wink* *wink*... --Niilomaan GRR!M! 10:41, 3 October 2006 (BST)
That would also be vandalism. Changing the PFM redirect into a {{disambig}} page instead wouldn't be. –Xoid MTFU! 11:57, 3 October 2006 (BST)
What would be vandalism? To create a group with dirty name? --Niilomaan GRR!M! 12:47, 3 October 2006 (BST)
Modifying the redirect to point there, and most likely the name too, for that matter. –Xoid MTFU! 12:48, 3 October 2006 (BST)
so then how do i make a new group page for my new group called the "Philosophe Knights" ? im not gonna try to impersonate them it will be similur but different.--ag 18:52, 3 October 2006 (BST)
You don't. –Xoid MTFU! 05:18, 4 October 2006 (BST)
is there a rule saying i cant?--ag 21:00, 4 October 2006 (BST)
No, there isn't but if you really want an arbitration case lodged against you, then feel free. Believe me, it will come. –Xoid MTFU! 07:21, 5 October 2006 (BST)
how can a case be logged againest me if i havent broken any rules?--ag 18:13, 5 October 2006 (BST)
since you havent replied to my meesage im gonna asume that a case wont be logged against me if i start up a group called "Philosophe Knights" and start adding to my new groups page.....unless we can have two pages of the same name?--ag 07:37, 8 October 2006 (BST)
Because arbitration isn't about punishing people for breaking rules, it's about stopping people from doing things that other people don't like. What are the odds the Philosophe Knights are going to enjoy your lil' ploy? Nada. So I'd expect an arbitration case from them the moment you do make a page with the same name as them (or close enough to cause confusion) — it wouldn't be surprising in the least knowing your history with them. –Xoid MTFU! 10:52, 8 October 2006 (BST)
So your saying i could log a case againest you for swearing at me? you did so earlyer in an e-mail, which i still have. i dont like swearing and if i follow your logic i could log a case againest you for it.--ag 19:29, 8 October 2006 (BST)
Please don't start a case againest xoid, because if you start your case againest him, he'll be permabanned and we need him. Please don't think againest the children.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 19:47, 8 October 2006 (BST)
I don't like the fact your making fun of my spelling. does that mean i can bring a case up on you?--ag 01:53, 9 October 2006 (BST)
I don't like your presence here on the wiki. Does that mean I can bring a case against you? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 10:34, 9 October 2006 (BST)
Thats exactly my point. if we allow arbiration cases, just for the fact that you dont like something someone has done, everyone would be at each others throats. so what are the rules for logging an arbirtion case? because "stopping people from doing things that other people don't like" is way too broad a statment.--ag 02:20, 10 October 2006 (BST)
Arby's cases are (well, are supposed to be) a last resort. It's not anyone's fault but your own if you abuse them. Besides, if a case is plainly frivolous, the Arbitrator is able to warn whoever started it. It pretty much manages itself. Jjames and Amazing are perhaps the only two people who've made abusing the system a habit. So it's not as bad as you make it out to be, really. Usually, Arby's cases are pretty rare. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:14, 10 October 2006 (BST)
But are there any set rules to how/why a case can be brought up?--ag 23:32, 10 October 2006 (BST)
No, as you cannot plan for every single situation. Don't bother trying to come up with any; they'll be shot down. Seriously. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:14, 11 October 2006 (BST)

Odd's Demotion

Hey Xoid, it's Odd here. I'm not intending to hang around long, do you mind serving my Demotion request ASAP? Thanks in advance. -- Odd Starter T M W! 06:25, 24 September 2006 (BST)


If you're there, please get on. We need to discuss some things. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 06:53, 19 September 2006 (BST)

Yup. Back on. I need to show you something. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:50, 19 September 2006 (BST)

Please, get on? Please? --CaptainM 04:50, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Grrr. The big notice at the top of my talk page isn't just for show, idiot. There is also the fact that there is already a heading for this sort of request. To answer your question? No. I'm at TAFE. No MSN. –Xoid MTFU! 04:55, 26 September 2006 (BST)
Awww, you shouldn't be studying or something?--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 04:59, 26 September 2006 (BST)
Sorry Xoid, I didn't see the MSN header, and I figured it wasn't really important... --CaptainM 05:01, 26 September 2006 (BST)
The MSN subject, not the header itself :P --CaptainM 05:02, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Can you get on? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 05:00, 26 September 2006 (BST)

You fuckin' blind? I'm at TAFE, you dickhead. –Xoid MTFU! 05:04, 26 September 2006 (BST)
Heh. I know you're at TAFE. I just wanted to rile you up ^_^ --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 05:05, 26 September 2006 (BST)

How about now? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 05:27, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Something I shall tell you

I've gone and told Bob Hammero this as well. Anyway because of this policy, I've put my foot in the shit because of a few comments I've made that I don't really wish to follow through with. I've decided one of two things, I can either get the "you're all clear" from you and Bob Hammero and I'll be fine and not do anything, or I can just commit this act of "vandalism" that I said thus the intent is gone because it's already done. I'm hoping I can get the "you're all clear" otherwise I'll have to vandalise so I don't get kicked off the wiki and demodded. Well what do you think about this? Oh and Cyberbob, don't comment on this, your comments arn't needed and it doesn't involve you. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 14:19, 18 September 2006 (BST)

I thought it was OK to butt in on other people's conversations! Pardon me for thinking that applied to everyone. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 18:12, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Just pointing this out for you. I'ld like it if you could take care of this ASAP. - JedazST ?D 06:49, 19 September 2006 (BST)

Quick question

Hey, I was wondering what rules and policys there are in relation to signatures and peoples name spaces. I wanted to do some reading up on it and since policy discussion doesn't help for older policys and I have no real clue where to look. If you could point me in the right direction or to some actual policys it'ld be a big help. Thanks. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 09:17, 15 September 2006 (BST)

The Fifth Horseman vs Akule Arbitration ruling clarification request

So, how do we get this rephrased in order to add that neither one of us shall be allowed to edit each other's pages? I'd also like to include my journal in the list of pages that he is not allowed to touch. --Akule 19:57, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Brizth commented on my talk page. He stated that he felt it appropriate that you make the changes. --Akule 00:11, 19 September 2006 (BST)


The Bureaucrat bids have ended. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 06:41, 10 September 2006 (BST)


You going to get them or what? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 06:36, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Sure. I am having a friendly conversation with our adversary at the moment, though. –Xoid MTFU! 06:40, 10 September 2006 (BST)
You know, Xoid if you want to talk you can always find me on I go by my favorite user name The Devil there (Amazing and The General know who I am there and I don't vandalise there anymore). --Moot 06:49, 10 September 2006 (BST)
But I am logging off now so maybe tomorrow. Moot 06:51, 10 September 2006 (BST)
Amazing's playground? No thank you. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. –Xoid MTFU! 06:58, 10 September 2006 (BST)

The Fifth Horseman

You really need to watch him, as according to his user page, he has quit the game, yet he vandalizes pages on here two week later. The arbitration was his idea to begin with and now that he is done with the game, it seems he is done with the arbitration. --Ahote 01:25, 10 September 2006 (BST)

My Policy

It passed, no surprise. The page with the rules of the suggestion page is protected however, so I will need a mod's help. Can you make the needed changes? Thanks in advance.--Gage 05:18, 8 September 2006 (BST)


Check M/M in about, oh, two minutes. I'll have a little surprise for you. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 02:33, 30 August 2006 (BST)

I love you BobHammero. Risk 02:40, 30 August 2006 (BST)
What are you talking about Bob? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:49, 31 August 2006 (BST)


Okay, refering to the recruitment page, Im a noob and dont know much about the wiki. I was trying to fix sumthing, I asked cyberbob240 for help, and he helped, end of story. Sorry for the confusion. Best of Wishes--User:amc


Which post were you talking about? I don't remember doing anything malicious recently. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tyler Whitney0 (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.


You the man, Hope you'll do the job for longer then I did.--Vista 00:50, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Nice one, Xoid. You've been doing some really awesome work around the place. You deserve this. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 01:15, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Big ups, y'all. Couldn't have gone to anyone better. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 05:44, 19 August 2006 (BST)

As everyone else, hurray for you!--Thari T/C/TJ! 05:50, 19 August 2006 (BST)

You did it?! Congrats man. I didn't think you'd get that sex change but I guess I was wrong. The right man...err it. Remind me to send you a welcome message. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 05:53, 19 August 2006 (BST)

It's a little late, but congratulations on promotion Xoid. --Gold Blade 15:07, 21 August 2006 (BST)


When did I vandalize the wiki? I know I did it once awhile ago; but I haven't since then. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bangadesh (talkcontribs) .


In the Bob H v. God arb case, I'm wondering if an idea that I'm considering attaching to my ruling would be kosher. Do you think there would be issues with me rendering a verdict, but with a provision that the case is revisited in one month to how well interaction is proceeding? --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 18:10, 14 August 2006 (BST)

Seems OK to me. –Xoid MTFU! 04:18, 15 August 2006 (BST)

Sonny promotion bid

I think I indentified 3, if there are more out of the 14 people who voted against you know about I think that would help.--Vista 19:07, 11 August 2006 (BST)


Greetings, my son. The Lord forsees a retraction of your warning, as the action fits no definition of vandalism. A public inquisition would undoubtably overturn this. The Lord God looks forward to correction of this and thanks you in advance. -- (GOD) 04:46, 9 August 2006 (BST)

The Lord requests your presence on his dance team, "The Groove Crusade". Practice will be underway very soon. Bless you. -- (GOD) 06:19, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Since you arent' dancing... perhaps you'll judge? --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 19:14, 10 August 2006 (BST)
No. Not unless there is some serious femme-fatale tit-flesh jiggling in my face am I likely to take notice. –Xoid MTFU! 19:18, 10 August 2006 (BST)
Good enough... It doesn't look like Kiki is competeing. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 19:19, 10 August 2006 (BST)
Heh. I forgot about "her". "She" is most certainly not femme-fatale. –Xoid MTFU! 19:25, 10 August 2006 (BST)
Eh - it met the other criteria. I am proud of earning the best abuse of the VB page thing though. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 19:29, 10 August 2006 (BST)
You'll need to pry it out of Grim s' cold dead hands. (Or at least I think that is what it'll take. I imagine he's fond of the pie.) –Xoid MTFU! 19:33, 10 August 2006 (BST)
The pie was funny - but it didn't go nearly this far. But I'll give him a poisoned cookie or something. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 20:37, 10 August 2006 (BST)


I am viewing this as an independent individual. You are one of the people who has been posting on the page asking for them to get an archive. I have have reached my decision, I believe it is a fair one, and it stands as it is I'm afraid. -- Krazy Monkey W! 16:12, 8 August 2006 (BST)

No duh. You said that if someone had something to say about the ruling then do so on your talk page. I have. –Xoid MTFU! 16:16, 8 August 2006 (BST)

IRC Well... MSN really.

Now. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 04:58, 29 July 2006 (BST)

MSN, instead. Chaos on the western front means my IRC insn't configured anymore. –Xoid MTFU! 05:04, 29 July 2006 (BST)

MSN, please. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:29, 31 July 2006 (BST)

MSN again? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 04:34, 5 August 2006 (BST)

Aaaand again, please. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:20, 13 August 2006 (BST)

*nudge* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:24, 13 August 2006 (BST)

*coughs* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:42, 16 August 2006 (BST)

Poke. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:54, 17 August 2006 (BST)

Nudge. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:03, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Flick. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 05:46, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Indian burn. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 04:54, 20 August 2006 (BST)

Dude. Just get x-chat and go on ZIRC. If you do then we can have sooper kool convos. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 04:56, 20 August 2006 (BST)

I've got it, and so does Xoid, but I don't think he can use it. Some config setting or something. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 04:58, 20 August 2006 (BST)

Debilitating punch. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:40, 22 August 2006 (BST)

A single blow that manages to kill you, resurrect you and then knock you out in one go. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 12:30, 24 August 2006 (BST)

Guess that means I won't be able to go on MSN then, huh? :-P –Xoid MTFU! 12:32, 24 August 2006 (BST)
Did I mention that that blow also shocked you into consciousness? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 12:34, 24 August 2006 (BST)

A repeat of that blow. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:59, 25 August 2006 (BST)

*yawns* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 13:54, 26 August 2006 (BST)

Why haven't you come back on? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 15:09, 26 August 2006 (BST)

On, please. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 04:03, 29 August 2006 (BST)

Where'd you go? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 18:05, 29 August 2006 (BST)

To bed. G'night. –Xoid MTFU! 18:16, 29 August 2006 (BST)

Thanks. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 07:12, 30 August 2006 (BST)

Not gonna happen. No MSN from 22:00–01:00 (GMT) Tuesday 'n' Thursday. –Xoid MTFU! 01:44, 31 August 2006 (BST)

Can you come on? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 13:19, 3 September 2006 (BST)

A talk

Certainly. You can contact me by PM on the forum, or if your lucky catch me on YIM/AIM/ICQ. I'll either handle things or pass the discussion to the apropriate officer, depending on the topic. --Gilant talk|DEM 15:14, 24 July 2006 (BST)


Looks like one of the speedy deletes you made fucked up all location pages. Please check. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 04:58, 19 July 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

Thanks for solving it, they're all good now (or at least it looks so). Sorry for the late response but I was AFK. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 05:34, 19 July 2006 (BST)
Next message may be found here.
Oh, sorry, that sucks. Happened to any (normal) family. Anyways, feel free to reply to me on your own talk page if you want, if that saves you the trouble of putting a link on every message. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 05:41, 19 July 2006 (BST)
"Happend to any (normal) family." — I don't follow you. –Xoid MTFU! 05:52, 19 July 2006 (BST)
I mean a pet's death: It happens to any family. Nevermind. And about the links: they will die as soon as I start to archive my talk page =S. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 05:58, 19 July 2006 (BST)

Vandal banning

Mind checking over two things for me? As a new mod, I'm unsure enough to worry about being bitten in the ass. The two things I'm talking about are this and this (annoyingly long bitching on my user page provides more information). –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 02:30, 14 July 2006 (BST)


I need you to check your email, please. It's important. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:27, 4 July 2006 (BST)

Again. Sorry. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 11:19, 4 July 2006 (BST)


   That was for fucking with Amazing's "Amazingiswatching" page. –Xoid

I didn't blank or really deface that page, I added the "nowiki" tags to break what it was doing. According to an arbitration ruling that template was being used improperly to put text outside the user area on the Crossman Defense Force page. I understand this wiki has rules meant to protect users from vandals, but it doesn't really seem like vandalism to me, and Amazing no longer needs his legal team(The General) as he can no longer contribute. -- Rueful 18:43, 30 June 2006 (BST)

I guess it was stupid of me to assume that a banned user would no longer own a wiki page. Case closed. -- Rueful 18:54, 30 June 2006 (BST)
The ruling in hagnat vs. Amazing was:
  • "Only usable on pages owned by the user himself.
  • only 25 characters of plain text, no pictures, no links, no line breaks. no changing of font size, no nothing. the only thing allowed is standard roman characters. the only deviations are capital letters, italics and bolding. changing font color is also allowed.
  • all other normal editing limitations apply."
Since Amazing still owns his user page, banned or not; the title (if I recall correctly) followed the formatting conventions; and it didn't break any other editing limitations, it was allowed. Thus, vandalism. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:27, 30 June 2006 (BST)

The vandalism I was reffering to was when you blanked the entire page, I left the latest lot because it was bold text which could be interpritated as a violation of the arbitration ruling. I've removed the bold tags.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:31, 30 June 2006 (BST)

That, however, was allowed. "the only deviations are capital letters, italics and bolding. changing font color is also allowed." –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:34, 30 June 2006 (BST)
Thanks, missed that. That means that he has now vandalised twice. Once adding the noninclude tags to Amazing's page, and again in removing the bold tags on my page.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:40, 30 June 2006 (BST)

No, the one week grace period is on user pages, not community pages. -- Rueful 14:51, 21 July 2006 (BST)

/hug -- Rueful 15:48, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Dear Xoid

I was unsure where to put this, so I thought i'd check up with you beforehand. I have met a particular person with my zombie alt who lives in south Blyville named Duplicity. The zombie account has attacked and been attacked by Duplicity 3 4 5 and 6. All in south blyville. It seems obvious this person is a zerger, but I thought i'd check things up with you first.--Brendoshi 17:53, 23 June 2006 (BST)

You said in my talk page

Sign Your Comments

Signing includes a timestamp. –Xoid MTFU! 12:30, 25 June 2006 (BST)

It has been noted, oh and by the way check the M/D page, I look forward to a civil discussion to ya. :) (A Wikipedian Romer) --Akimbomidget 12:55, 25 June 2006 (BST)


Go on it. Now. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:46, 15 June 2006 (BST)

Again, please. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:20, 16 June 2006 (BST)

*cough* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 10:45, 17 June 2006 (BST)

*nudge* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 05:39, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Why did you go offline? Come back on please. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 14:26, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Because you two dickheads were pissing me off. –Xoid MTFU! 14:27, 20 June 2006 (BST)
Two? (Aw, come on. I have a serious question for you) --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 14:29, 20 June 2006 (BST)
Then stop annoying me, and I might not go offline and ignore you next time. –Xoid MTFU! 14:30, 20 June 2006 (BST)
OK! OK! I'll stop annoying you! But can you seriously go on? I need to ask you something. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 14:33, 20 June 2006 (BST)

OK, that's enough now. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 16:43, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Are you there? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 06:18, 26 June 2006 (BST)

*nudge* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:47, 27 June 2006 (BST)

*poke* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 13:06, 29 June 2006 (BST)

*flick* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 06:35, 2 July 2006 (BST)

*nosebreaking punch* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 16:12, 6 July 2006 (BST)

Why did you go offline? Back on, please. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 17:40, 6 July 2006 (BST)

*elbow* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 16:38, 7 July 2006 (BST)

*shoots* Oops, my bad, wrong website. Sorry, don't mind me...--Paradox244 03:05, 3 August 2006 (BST)

*viciously murders Paradox for interrupting* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:02, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Can you come on? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 13:19, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Amazing's alt?

I know it's a bit obvious, but could this user be Amazing's alt? Personally I think he's an alt of the 3pagevandle... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 10:35, 13 June 2006 (BST)

No. Don't be idiotic. That was the moron who has a hardon for Amazing; the same one who loved to get into edit wars with Amazing over Amazing's user page. The edit summaries from one day looked a little bit like:
Stop editing my page you fag! - Amazing

Stop editing my page you fag! - Amaz'ing

Xoid MTFU! 10:41, 13 June 2006 (BST)
Hey. No need for that. I missed all that drama. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 11:03, 13 June 2006 (BST)
I did bring that up during the misconduct case. I thought something that we argued in depth over would've stuck in your memory. Hell, Amaz'ing was the guy I perma banned, starting the misconduct case for fuck's sake! You got a really short memory, or have you been headshot a little too often of late? Could also be that it's time to update the "Sobriety" template on your user page… –Xoid MTFU! 11:16, 13 June 2006 (BST)
I'll take the short memory option. There's been a lot of drama involving me since then (not the least of which just gone); I have had to concentrate on things as they come. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 11:21, 13 June 2006 (BST)
At least you're not hittin' the booze. That's Mia's job. :P –Xoid MTFU! 11:24, 13 June 2006 (BST)


What should be done about "Despicably Offensive Wiki Drama" (see the Deletions page - the bottom one in the queue)? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 17:25, 12 June 2006 (BST)

Ask Odd. I've got no idea, it's sort of unprecedented after all. –Xoid MTFU! 17:34, 12 June 2006 (BST)

The Fifth Horseman

Can you deal with him for a bit? He's demanding the specific line of the specific rule for his specific edit type. Which I'm to tired to produce. Please? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 11:10, 9 June 2006 (BST)

I've been looking. I know that there is a rule somewhere, I think he's being an ass (no, I ain't going American on you, he's literally acting like a donkey.) –Xoid MTFU! 11:12, 9 June 2006 (BST)
I know... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 11:15, 9 June 2006 (BST)
Seriously Xoid, say something to get him to focus his attention on you. I'm sick of having to deal with bullshit like this by myself. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 11:57, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Eye Em

Do you have a IM account? There is something important that I want talk one to one with you about. –Xoid MTFU! 14:22, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Actually I'm at work right now so it wil have to wait a couple of hours. Also I don't actually have IM. will MSN do? my Hotmail account is ErnstvdBosch. I'll be on msn 4 and a half hours from my timestamp. 18.00 (GMT) server time. 19.00 (BST) sigtime. or you can go to the RRF IRC channel and we can get a private conversation there at the same time. Sorry for the inconvenience--Vista 14:36, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Damn. I'll be long asleep by that time. (By the way: IM means Instant Messenger, MSN Messenger is an IM, so is AIM, ICQ, etc.) Don't sweat it, if it's still important tomorrow, I'll bug you again. –Xoid MTFU! 14:44, 6 June 2006 (BST)
thought you ment AIM. I fear that tomorrow we'll have the same problem...--Vista 14:51, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Can you give some GMT times you are aviable on a IM? Your imput might be helpful to something I'm thinking about.--Vista 21:27, 13 June 2006 (BST)

I would if I could, but I'm at work. And don't have excess to IM. If 17 GMT is too late you could try to e-mail me. (I know it is hardly ideal but unless we get a better internet those timezones will always be a bitch)--Vista 14:01, 26 June 2006 (BST)

I'm on msn right now.--Vista 17:33, 26 June 2006 (BST)
Huh? No you're not. –Xoid MTFU! 17:36, 26 June 2006 (BST)


According to Kevan, this wiki is hosted by Poundhost. So it looks like this is the TOS we want. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 07:00, 6 June 2006 (BST)

1(a) in there seems to fit this particular situation to a tee. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 07:11, 6 June 2006 (BST)
"1a: Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene (illegal pornography), libellous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable. Please note public IRC services may not be run on our network. Contact us for clarification where needed."
"1c: Impersonate any person or entity or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity. Forge headers or spoof or monitor/sniff IP packets."
Should be enough. I did think that the registrar's TOS for the domain name itself would take precedence though. –Xoid MTFU! 07:16, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Really? I thought it would be the host. Not that it really matters -- they both basically say the same thing: don't do this shit.Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 07:42, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Found It

At least, I think so: here. Looks like a policy document. What do you think? How set in stone is this? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:02, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Fuck. Seems concrete to me. –Xoid MTFU! 10:08, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Thanks for your help. I responded to Kevan. Remember though, this is a Wiki, so things aren't set in stone, and Kevan isn't defending Amazing. Things obviously need to change. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:14, 5 June 2006 (BST)
It's a policy document. It has been contested before IIRC, and failed miserably. We couldn't get that "no swearing" thing through, I mean fuck, I voted against it. (I hate censorship. This is different though, this is clearly slander, as it's not even stated to be his opinion but instead as fact. Might also be libel.) –Xoid MTFU! 10:18, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Might even be illegal. Joking or not, his talking about selling photos of that nature is not only disgusting, unspeakably tasteless and rude, and just (I'm not quite sure how to put it, fucking really bad, OK?), but also possibly against the law. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:20, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Hey! Can I be involved? What can I do? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:23, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Don't know. I responded to Kevan, so we'll see what he says. (And I know Amazing's just flinging shit around, but really, the kind of stuff he's pretending to sell? ... Pulling the "legal" string is a stretch, but anything to get that taken down.) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:28, 5 June 2006 (BST)
What are the TOS for this host? Fuckity. I might have just violated them. Fuckity. If so, getting rid of Amazing might be amazingly easy. Fuckity. –Xoid MTFU! 10:31, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Assuming that I found the right one (someone want to double check the whois for me?), the TOS look huge. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:33, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Eh? What the hell are you on about? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:33, 5 June 2006 (BST)
TOS = Terms of Service. WHOIS = WHOIS. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:37, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Yup, UD is with 123. Their TOS are the ones to use. –Xoid MTFU! 10:42, 5 June 2006 (BST)
"5.1.2 not use the Services, Ancillary Systems and/or Client System or allow them to be used for any unlawful purpose or for the publication, linking to, issue or display of any unlawful material (including any pirated software or any material which is obscene, pornographic, threatening, malicious, harmful, abusive, defamatory or which breaches the rights including Intellectual Property Rights of any third party or which is or encourages criminal acts or contains any virus, worm, trojan horse or other harmful code) whether under English law or regulation, the laws or regulations of the Client's country or any other place where the results of such purpose or the material in question can be accessed;" –Xoid MTFU! 10:47, 5 June 2006 (BST)
So the question is, since (I assume) Amazing is full of shit on this, how far do we want to push it? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:49, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Maybe just the threat of taking it all the way would be enough. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:50, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Or maybe we should bring this to Kevan's attention? I don't want to piss him off though. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:52, 5 June 2006 (BST)
"5.1.4 not use the Services, Ancillary Systems and/or Client System or allow them to be used in breach of good Netiquette practices;" Whoops, looks like I can perma-ban anyone blanking their talk page from now on. >:E
Kevan now not only has the power, but the legal obligation to remove it. If Amazing dares to do it again, kthxbaibaihaetu!… GONESKIES! –Xoid MTFU! 10:54, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Xoid, I would like you to do the honors of informing our benevolent leader that he is required to remove the dark lord from the wiki. Because when I run for mod, I want to stand a chance of being accepted. ;-) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:56, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Still, I think we should give Amazing the chance to remove the offending content from his page (and let's not forget Scinfaxi's comments about his beard on Scinfaxi's talk page). --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:56, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I disagree. I think the content should disappear into the night for Amazing, and he can wake up to a nice fat warning about violating the TOS of the web host. As far as Scinfaxi goes, yes, he's in poor taste, but not even approaching as bad as Amazing. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:59, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I don't care if I can, it is someone else's duty to deal with them. I am too embroiled in this bull as it is, and am recusing myself from any use of moderator powers in regards to clearing this up. –Xoid MTFU! 11:02, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Still, would you mind leaving Kevan a little "hey check this out" link? Maybe just send him to this discussion and let him decide? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 11:04, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Same here. There's just too much potential of fucking up bigtime for mine. However, if Kevan were to do it... assuming, that is, if we can persuade him to. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:05, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Never said I wouldn't nudge him in the right direction, just that if push comes to shove; someone else gets the pleasure of banning him. –Xoid MTFU! 11:09, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Maybe Kevan will be nice and let you me ban him... *goes off into a daydream* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:10, 5 June 2006 (BST)

It might work. But this should be done by kevan not us, as it'll open a wasps' nest of trouble if we did it. I don't want to go and interpetate the service contract in ways to benefit us in our task. If kevan doesn't act on it lets concentrate upon oddstarters policy proposal. that would solve our troubles and although it wouldn't be perfect it is a better solution then us using a particular interpretation of the service contract.--Vista 17:42, 5 June 2006 (BST)

I personally think that all of the hateful, vindictive bullshit on this wiki needs to go (as, ironically, Amazing claims he does as well). I just think that Amazing is going about things in the entirely wrong way, assuming that he's being honest about his intentions. In any regard, something needs to change, whether by TOS or wiki policy. If I weren't a somewhat seasoned user of this wiki, I would be long gone from the kind of crap I've seen thrown around here lately. (I just hope that all of this isn't considered more involvement in the drama, since I intend to run again for mod.) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 20:07, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Sacred User Pages

Where exactly is it said that user pages are so protected? I need to respond to Kevan. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 09:22, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Buried. Deep. Probably in one of the archives somewhere. (Sorry I can't help, it ain't easy to remember something you saw a couple of times about 2 months back.) –Xoid MTFU! 09:25, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Any clues on where to look, or what kind of decision it was (actual policy or arbitrator opinion)? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 09:26, 5 June 2006 (BST)
It was older than wikigate, I remember that much. I think it might have been an old policy. You check policies, I'll check <wikigate arb cases. –Xoid MTFU! 09:27, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I obviously haven't read everything in full, but I've checked M/PD, M/PD/Group Pages, M/PD/Offensive Language, M/PD/archive, M/Locational Language/Interaction, M/PD/Amazing, and M/PD/Archive. Anything I missed? The closest it came was this section, but it doesn't talk about user/talk pages, just group pages. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 09:38, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I'll start looking in Arbitration now too. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 09:39, 5 June 2006 (BST)
One possibility here in point two. Pretty vague though, and part of wikigate. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 09:45, 5 June 2006 (BST)
Hm… maybe there is hope. –Xoid MTFU! 09:51, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I'm having a lot of trouble finding anything else. For something people shout about so much, it's sure hidden, isn't it? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 09:53, 5 June 2006 (BST)

I've thrown it up anyway, because even if this current situation is resolved, it would be useful to figure out what, exactly, the policy is, so we can make simpler decisions in future. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 11:23, 5 June 2006 (BST)

See the next section up. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 11:24, 5 June 2006 (BST)


Hi Xoid, I was just on a bit of a revival patrol when i found this guy (in zombie form): When i clicked on Mr Addictedtopain's realname link, my browser (firefox) went insane and started throwing new windows everywhere and for a disturbingly long time would not even respond to the 3-Fingered-Salute. The link his realname "JIM BOWEN" connects to is: DON'T CLICK THERE! (unless you maybe disable some kind of scripts or something, I dunno but it was pretty awful for me I can tell ya!)

So I dunno whether this character should get deleted or what, but i thought their linkthingy sucked. Kind Regards, Sassie 12:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Editing the Wiki

If what you want to talk about does not make sense under the other headings — Important Stuff, harsh Criticism, Praise, or Pointless Chatter — then it belongs under this heading.
Old "Editing the Wiki" messages may be found here.

Image Deletion Request

I uploaded an image for use in one of my templates, but have since found a different image already on the wiki that would better suit the task. Since I know nothing about deleting stuff (heck, I don't even think average users can), could you delete image:Killer.gif for me? --Reaper with no name 20:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Image Size?

I thank you for your help. However, I am a mite confused. You say the image was amazingly big, and yet I see no difference in physical size, unless it's the bytes that's changed. In any case, thank you for your help. Torec T-CC 12:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, then thank you. I've always just preferred PNGs because I was under the impression that they would have the best quality compared to the other file formats out there. However, I cannot really tell any difference between the two. Good day then, and good playing. Torec T-CC 13:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Linking inside the page

You know MediaWiki, right? Is it possible to link to a text inside the page without using those headline things? <a> doesn't seem to work, so am I out of luck? --Niilomaan GRR!M! 09:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


Sure thing, I'd be willing to change it to CertifiedInsane, as that's what some forums forced me to use... As long as changing it doesn't screw up tons of links/templates/other stuff. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 21:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, that'd be great. What is it with the wiki and special characters anyhow? -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 02:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

wiik ediitng lawl

Would you please resize the flag on my sig? It's too damn big. Can you make it 14x14? And if you are on the mood, add [[UDWiki:Moderation/Promotions#Thari|Or Else]].--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 15:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

May I make a request?

Good evening. I am hopelessly clueless on issues of formatting and whatnot, my only vain attempts coming after I can essentially copy the formatting used by others. Currently I am trying to make a template for the Malton Herald & Sun. If you would be kind enough to send me a sample template code (preferably in red and black) that I can use as the basis for building a template, I would greatly appreciate it. Just post it on my talk page. Thank you for your time. -- Murray Jay Suskind -- 26 October 2006, 7:20 EDT

Thanks for getting back to me. I was thinking that the Masthead would be the main part of the template (hence the asking for black and red). As for text... "This user or group supports the Malton Herald & Sun, the official mouthpiece of the RRF." I'm not shooting for anything too complex (at least, I hope I'm not). So if you're able to help, again, I'd appreciate it.

Revive Point

Hello lean mean deletion machine. Just a small question or request if you will. I was wondering if you could look over my idea for revive points. It's located here and I was just wondering if you know of any reason I could start to use the ideas on there and apply my new list to the page.

I did create the page to gage the opinion of the community although it has been ignored by most I did get a good enough response to start looking at the changes and also the DEM seem to be able to chage their revive tool to match it. Just let me know. Cheers. Pillsy FT 14:22, 20 October 2006 (BST)

Central Malton

Hey, Xoid, since you know more about templates than I do, I figured I'd direct this to you. There's something wrong with the template on the Central Malton wiki page. The "important buildings and events" section doesn't show up. I've got no idea what the problem is, so if you could help me fix it, I'd be grateful! Stay Classy! --Ron Burgundy 21:33, 14 October 2006 (BST)

Jeeze, how'd I miss that? I must have spent half an hour looking for what was missing... even digging through the history section got me nothing. Man, sometimes you need to hit me twice! Thanks a bunch! --Ron Burgundy 00:52, 16 October 2006 (BST)


I would like to thankyou for un-banning me. I realize I said some stupid things and that I probably won't be trusted around here for a long while. But I'ld like to think that maybe some time in the not too distant future that maybe we can trust eachother once again. Well I'll give you my word as an editor on all wikis that I will not, ever, make a single bad faith edit to the Urban Dead Wiki no matter how tempting it may get sometimes. Take it however you like, but thats my promise. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 07:56, 10 October 2006 (BST)

Strange, I was actually going to apologise to you. Someone let it slip that you're curious about why I did it [the unbanning], and I'll explain now that I came to the decision purely on my own. I wasn't prompted by Kevan, I'll never give into blackmail, and even now I contend that all but one of those who defended you had irredeemably flawed arguments. In a case where everyone's arguments were flawed to some degree or another, mine was the one with a subtle, fatal flaw. No one noticed it, not even me, until the debate was well under way. I'm sorry for having wasted your time. –Xoid MTFU! 08:38, 10 October 2006 (BST)
Hey, don't worry about it. One of my qualitys is that I'm a very forgiving person, I just can't keep a grudge for long in most cases (there are some exceptions). It's quite interesting though, people gave me way to much credit for what I know, Mia and Karlsbad both thought I was using a proxy, but no one bothered to ban my IP in the first place so I didn't even need to attempt to try and use one. Well I'm glad that you came to your own decision on the issue. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 08:58, 10 October 2006 (BST)
I'm not sure about your IP not being banned, I think Gage unbanned not long before you posted. Gimme a sec and I can confirm. –Xoid MTFU! 09:09, 10 October 2006 (BST) Edit: Yeah, he did. Seems I missed a few things when I unbanned you last night. –Xoid MTFU! 09:11, 10 October 2006 (BST)
Thats because when Cyberbob banned my account Jeda he also banned my IP. Oh well, doesn't matter it's behind us now. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 09:17, 10 October 2006 (BST)

Pillsy Sig

Thanks man but I have put the navigation template on it and messed it up. Can you just remove the navigation template for me please? Cheers. Pillsy FUCT 16:11, 4 October 2006 (BST)

I've fixed it. --Brizth M T 16:16, 4 October 2006 (BST)
As you can see Brizth fixed it, you mods are so speedy sometimes. Cheers. Pillsy FUCT 16:17, 4 October 2006 (BST)


Who did I impersonate? And if it's the Duce Nauks entry on my talk page, I'm not gonna tolerate his bullshit there. Besides, I put in italic what I wrote. -Certified=InsaneUG 16:27, 1 October 2006 (BST)

If you find it necessary to remove the whole comment instead of simply the bullshit in it, very well, it shall be done. -Certified=InsaneUG 16:34, 1 October 2006 (BST)


Err.. thought I should Confirm that Marcus Reaves and I, Private Hama are one in the same. I didn't know what I should've done, Sooo.. I put it here. --Private Hama 02:33AM, Sept 30/06 (PST)

Okay, I use THIS account more often than the Marcus Reaves one, and yes, I realise Having alts and such may lead to that, but rest assured, I hope to do nothing that would get me banned and have to resort to such a thing. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused you. --Private Hama 02:46AM, Sept 30/06 (PST)
OK, that's fine. In order to make things easier on people, you may wish to move the Marcus Reaves talk page to your own, and make Marcus Reaves redirect to Private Hama, so if you inadvertantly use the other one, people will figure out that it's just your alt and use the right talk page. –Xoid MTFU! 10:49, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Aushvitz? Use a new heading next time

Hey Xoid, could you be a sweetie and check "it's fisting time" under undecided suggestions. It had like 13/17 keeps on it, it should be in peer reviewed but I think someone screwed up (or not, lol) and put it there. I'd do it myself but I'm not 100% sure on the history and moving of things to peer reviewed, don't wanna get in shit. --MrAushvitz 04:51, 30 September 2006 (BST)


You have scared the shit out of me. From where did this come out? --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 11:45, 26 September 2006 (BST)

I have my connections. –Xoid MTFU! 03:40, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Like... Google ;) --Brizth M T 15:10, 27 September 2006 (BST)

My Cookie

It's poisoned, isn't it? --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 15:13, 24 September 2006 (BST)

I wouldn't eat it, if that is what you are asking.--Gage 23:14, 24 September 2006 (BST)
Wise advice. You can't bite bytes. –Xoid MTFU! 03:41, 27 September 2006 (BST)

New Utility Template

{{vndl}} you can praise me via MSN or my talk page.--Gage 06:45, 24 September 2006 (BST)

I also made {{c}} amd {{size}} - I hope you can put those to use, I am already using {{c}} on Previous Days Suggestions.--Gage 06:37, 26 September 2006 (BST)
and now {{h}}--Gage 22:58, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Navigation template

'Demotions' needs adding to this under 'Moderation services' :) Jonny12 Talk | W! | Hunt! 13:54, 23 September 2006 (BST)

It goes beyond mere vandalism...

I'll apologise to anyone who got deleted due to AMC's nightmare edit, but I could only do what I could with the information in front of me. Conndrakamod T CFT 15:52, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Page deleted

I set up a page for a group called 'the league of bastards' the page has been taken down or something. I don't know why this would have happened. I had edited it in months but i hadn't edited another page i set up as well.So i was hoping you might be able to help me find out what the deal is. I haven't been on the wiki in a while so i apologize now any fuck ups i'm making. Thanks Love Duke 12:28, 17 September 2006 (BST)

The page was deleted because it was a non-historical group page which hadn't been edited for over a month (since May, actually). You can request undeletion on the M/U page.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 13:05, 17 September 2006 (BST)


Sorry, something just got broken and I was trying to figure out what it was. I think I've got it now, though. Ron Burgundy 07:09, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Page deletion request

'Cause I'm not sure how one deletes pages on this wiki. I accidentally made the page Usertalk:Faerin. If you would be so kind as to remove it, that'd be great. -- Faerin 02:33, 14 September 2006 (BST)


I added the Historic Groups template to their page. Just wanted to let you know. --Paradox244 W! TJ! 20:57, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Archiving M/VB

Do you think we should start to archive M/VB? The purging might have been a good reason back in February, but now it's just a burden to search the history. Lots of precedents are set on that page.

Oh and I only noticed this today. Damn I laughed hard. --Brizth M T 20:08, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Archiving would be nice, it's getting pretty big. --Rueful 19:38, 12 September 2006 (BST)
Previously, it was just deleted, what Brizth is saying "instead of deleting crap when it gets too big, why not archive it so we can find older cases?". –Xoid MTFU! 09:17, 13 September 2006 (BST)
Yes, it'd be an idea. I never really saw why it wasn't the case before. Lazy mods? –Xoid MTFU! 09:17, 13 September 2006 (BST)
Sounds good, I'll take this conversation to the Vandal Banning Talk Page so it's a bit more public and has more input on how it should all be done ect. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 14:57, 17 September 2006 (BST)


They replied to you already. Their forum like the page has not been active since april. --Max Grivas JG,T,Max4Mod,F! 16:04, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Character Template

With your permission, I'd like to 'steal' your template and alter it for my own use. I'll credit you, though! ^^ Thanks in advance. Robin Robinson 00:27, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Locations Creations

I saw on your userpage that you've helped with fixing locations and making others. I've done some myself, with locationblock and blockmerge, but it's quite tedious. Is there a quicker way to do it outside of plugging variables into the templates and having to alt tab to a suburb map and alt tab back to the location I'm editing? I suppose I'm asking if someone has created a php script or something similar to the automated "defense plan" creations I've seen that make a colored table marking "VSB" etc. that can be found here.

If you know of any better way of making locations, or know someone else who might be able to help with tips or tricks, let me know. - Bango Skank 22:51, 30 August 2006 (BST)

Voting Eligibility

Ah yes, I see your point. I'm glad one of us is thinking properly at the moment. - Jedaz 10:17, 29 August 2006 (BST)

It only came to me after reading through Centerfire's arguments and extrapolating from them. I would've missed it were it not for his other insightful points getting the cogs turning. –Xoid MTFU! 10:19, 29 August 2006 (BST)

St. D's page

The double St D's entries came about when someone created a page with a smart quote apostrophe. Check out the "What the hell?" section on the discussion page of the St D's Bar & Grill page. As you can see, we've had a ton of problems keeping that part of the wiki straight. Thanks for undoing the deletion. --Cartoonlad 22:26, 26 August 2006 (BST)

Uploading pictures

How are you supposed to upload them? I click on it and it says I can't. --Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS DORIS Hunt! 05:22, 26 August 2006 (BST)

Hell yes

I love the new template abilities. Specifically, you can breathe a sigh of relief: the days of trying to teach n00bs how to make templates are over. Just send them to {{UserTemplate}}. You can thank me later. –Bob Hammero ModTACB! 21:15, 25 August 2006 (BST)

And you can use them inside other templates. Suggestion page, here I come! --Darth Sensitive CTW! 14:44, 27 August 2006 (BST)
Isn't it awesome? You can create atrocities like this with ease:
Dead.gif Insane Template
I'm going crazy!
Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 01:27, 28 August 2006 (BST)

Re: Research suggestion

You voted: Spam - This is a completely ridiculous suggestion with no merit whatsoever, what the fuck are you complaining about?

My response: It has ridiculous elements, yes. However, there are some good concepts mixed in with the crap. As such, the suggestion is only incompletely ridiculous, and thus unworthy of Spamination. Also, most of the Spam voters appear to be voting Spam merely because MrAushvitz made the suggestion. I'd wager that if anyone else had suggested it, most of thse Spams would be Kills instead.

--Sgt. John TaggartUNIT 9/5 NEVAR FORGET WCDZ 15:11, 23 August 2006 (BST)

No, they'd be Spam anyway. Regardless of who made that abomination, it requires a complete rewrite from the ground up. That isn't Kill worthy, that is Spam worthy. –Xoid MTFU! 15:16, 23 August 2006 (BST)

Re: Wouldn't he still be affected?

I... don't know. Maybe. No. Yes. Only The Devil can tell us :-) --Brizth M T 17:37, 22 August 2006 (BST)

Nope, as you can see by my last 3 days of posting :-) The Devil 21:21, 25 August 2006 (BST)

Re: Withdrawn

True, there obviously were differences, but I think the main reason for posting the new one was the supposed rejection of the first one. But by all means, return it back if you think that's a proper way of doing it. Though it might need to be renamed to something else, like "Changing historical group policy". --Brizth M T 16:34, 22 August 2006 (BST)

My Wiki Idea

Check Bob Hammero's page under "Idea" in his other managment issues heading to see an idea I have, please respond on my talk page.--Canuhearmenow 16:10, 22 August 2006 (BST)

So, you willing to make a page for Mentoring? Just give me the page and I will send the idea to the senior members of the Wiki.--Canuhearmenow 16:21, 22 August 2006 (BST)
Xoid. It seems that people are willing for the mentor thing. All we have to do now is come up with a name for the "Mentor Club" as Sonny put it...Any suggestions?--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 16:47, 23 August 2006 (BST)

Celebration time

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Bob Hammero has given Xoid a cookie for banning Godmazing.

Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 08:08, 20 August 2006 (BST)

Yet Another question from Vulnavia:

Dearest Mr. Xoid, I'm a rather curious girl by nature and I just found out about the firefox-graphical-mini-map (The one with the cute little pictures of all the buildings) and I'm absolutely dying to find out what Club Vaughan looks like on it! I don't have access to the mini-map and I'm wondering if either you or any of the tons of people you know do have it? I'm getting kinda anticipate-y and I'm pretty close to offering some kind of reward to ANYBODY who will give me a screen-shot of Club Vaughan! (I guess it's my somewhat perfectionistic side showing itself: I don't want my descriptions of Club-V to clash with the only actual depicted image of it (that I know of anyway...))So hopefully you know of someone? (Or someone else reading this knows of someone?) Please? Anxiously Awaiting Your Answer, Vulnavia 22:21, 18 August 2006 (BST)

P.S. Anyone else reading this who can snag me a screen-shot, PLeAsE(!) Either email the NL or leave a msg on either my or its talk-page! Vulnavia 22:21, 18 August 2006 (BST)
P.P.S. Argh. I forgot to say this: I want to put the firefox-mini-map pic of Club Vaughan on the splendiferous Club Vaughan wiki-page. Is that allowed? I noticed no-one else has ever done that...Vulnavia 23:18, 18 August 2006 (BST)
Disappointing yet interesting. Before you replied, I was just thinking that if all the buildings had individual images it must have been hard to make that mini-map: (I don't have really good math skills) but that would be upwards of one thousand graphics that someone had drawn by hand! About the pic being wonky and all: I don't have any experience with firefox, and I don't know if this would actually work with it, but I was thinking of pressing "alt" & "print-screen" to capture a screen-shot of the map while it's on-screen and then pasting the rough screen-shot into either "irfanview" or plain-old-"paint" (or whatever) and then cropping out the unwanted parts and then saving just the shot of the mini-map as a gif (or whatever) and then putting the gif-ified image on the wiki-page. Would that work any better? Or is it still a no-no? (I'd actually be content just to see what the "club" pic looks like (but I think that's just my semi-perfectionistic anal-retentive inner-voice-demon nagging me again: "Seek perfection! Seeeeeek!") Anyway! Hoping for a metheod that works, Vulnavia 22:04, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Can't open pages

Well I'm not sure why or HOW but least God and Vandal Banning are currently off limits for me. Only thing in common was that both had last edit from unknown fellas, that didn't have any edits before that. I can't tell what edits those might be, because opening the page is impossible. Can you fix this or are we screwed? --Niilomaan GRR! 08:27, 16 August 2006 (BST)

This looks like some kind of h4x to me. And happens to me too.--Thari T/C/TJ! 08:30, 16 August 2006 (BST)
Oh yeah... You could just revert it like that, but what I REALLY wanted to know, was how it was done. --Niilomaan GRR! 08:34, 16 August 2006 (BST)
Actualy that was me reverting them. And they did it by having about 400KB of blank text. I'll be perma-baning them in just a second. - Jedaz 08:37, 16 August 2006 (BST)
I noticed it was you. And I also managed to get one. Muah! --Niilomaan GRR! 08:39, 16 August 2006 (BST)
Nice job, let a moderator know if you spot any more so we can perma-ban the users who do this. Although they are just throwaway accounts by the looks of things. - Jedaz 08:46, 16 August 2006 (BST)
How did you get the pages to load? I kept getting timeouts. –Xoid MTFU! 09:38, 16 August 2006 (BST)
I never actualy loaded them, I just used the HTML address of "", it just makes life so much easier when reverting vandalism of that sort. - Jedaz 13:53, 16 August 2006 (BST)
I would have done that, had I known that they were vandalised. I've never come across this sort of thing before. How'd you figure it out? –Xoid MTFU! 13:55, 16 August 2006 (BST)
That they were vandalized in that way? You notice it when the rest of the wiki loads fine bit that one page doesn't, it kinda gives it away. I've seen it once or twice before on this wiki, it's a pain but easily fixed. - Jedaz 13:59, 16 August 2006 (BST)
Very strange. I'll bear that in mind. This should also be written up as a "special case workaround", and added to the docs. I'll get to it. –Xoid MTFU! 14:04, 16 August 2006 (BST)
Yeah, I'll have a play around with it in my sandbox so we can give people actual examples of what it's like (well mainly that I just want to play around with it...). I'll link it when I've got a good working example. - Jedaz 14:07, 16 August 2006 (BST)
There you go here is some of this evil text. Just if you want to "view" what it looks like here is the edit link for ease. I took this strait from the history of the vandalism page. - Jedaz 14:25, 16 August 2006 (BST)


Well we know it's our friend, I got it from copying the blank lines, but the thing that really amazed me is that windows doesn't display the text correctly even though it was coppied and pasted. It only was displayed in small parts, odd... but thats microsoft for you. - Jedaz 14:31, 16 August 2006 (BST)
Spawn of hell! How dare you place that on my talk page?! Uh, yeah. I can't even get the edit that page thing to work properly. It just doesn't load. –Xoid MTFU! 14:49, 16 August 2006 (BST)
I appoligize for my defilement of your wonderful talk page, lol. And damn that must suck not being able to even load up the edit page. That text must be really evil... - Jedaz 14:56, 16 August 2006 (BST)
N00b l0l! Even this ol' 750 MHz K7 loads that. Tho it is really slow.. --Niilomaan GRR! 15:07, 16 August 2006 (BST)

Message from Lo Meng re: Zoo Enclosures

Hi asked me why I created a new page just for the Reptile House. I'm on the Board of Directors with The Malton Zookeepers and I'm the director of communications. One of my tasks was to clean up and generally improve our representation on the wiki. I made a separate page for each of the enclosures and intend to flesh out the description for each, as well as maintain those pages. I hope that makes things clearer. If it's really horribly objectionable to you, then let me know, but I do intend to maintain the pages to whatever degree that maintenance is required. --Lo Meng 06:30, 13 August 2006 (BST)

Message received. I understand your concern. I already made the proper links from the City Zoo main page to the different pages for each of the enclosures, and am slowly but surely adding content to each enclosure's page (Reptile House and Aquarium are already finished). As of right now reports on the status of the enclosures are managed at the Zookeepers forum, which is open to the public and available here but if it becomes necessary to ask people to move specific reports to specific pages, I'll take care of it. I'll also be accountable for re-merging the pages into one if that's what ultimately needs to be done. Thanks for noticing the zoo. --Lo Meng 06:40, 13 August 2006 (BST)

I'm sorry if this sounds dense. From what I can tell, the changes you made are to the templates that create the maps on each page, and those won't have to be made again, right? I am sorry those were done incorrectly and thanks for fixing them. Is there any other issue with the pages I made that could be a problem as I update them? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lo Meng (talkcontribs) .

Heh. Well thank you for your help. I'm honestly not sure I would have done the locationblock thing right even if I had read the whole LSG beforehand.


Actually they might implement some Javascript hack to do anchor redirects. This bugzilla report deals with the problem. I hadn't checked that one for a while and last time it was WONTFIX, now it's Low priority Enhancement. But considering the somewhat slow upgrading pace Kevan has for the wiki I don't see us ever getting the fix. --Brizth M T 13:01, 11 August 2006 (BST)


You messed up the warning link of Charlie Marrow. And I can't fix it. Just FYI. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 20:39, 10 August 2006 (BST)

Is it that obvious that it's 05:41? Anyway. It's going to be a real shitstorm with that arb. case. –Xoid MTFU! 20:42, 10 August 2006 (BST)
Well if you can get the guy who posted the original topic to agree to it's removal now, I would be more than happy for mine to be removed - CharlieMarrow 20:44, 10 August 2006 (BST)
It will be, but it needs to be cleared up. Even if it does play hell with any eventual SysOp bid I make, this is a bit more important. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 20:46, 10 August 2006 (BST)
LMFAO. Convince Scinfaxi to stop this? No, it ain't gonna happen. Scinfaxi does this for sport. It's a miracle that he hasn't been banned from the wiki entirely. But we can't. Apparently, "moderators" aren't supposed to have any actual power. Real wise decision there, Odd. Oh don't mind be, I'm rambling. –Xoid MTFU! 20:49, 10 August 2006 (BST)

Removed by author

That makes it nicer. I assume that that makes it so you just put that in and it comes up with the authors name? What do you think of the whole idea overall? --Gold Blade 18:23, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Brainstorming and shit

A lot of things are added to our tentative of policy changing. Check here. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 03:47, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Can you delete my accounts?

Can you delete these accounts, because I have got one account what I use, and these are unused. These two: Somebody and this tessutit. --Chewie 09:19, 8 August 2006 (BST)

Re: Second Warning

(hope this is in the right spot) I'm more than a little confused. I was sick of seeing 'cheaters' painted inside of morrish every other day prob and made the grave error of using a strike through on the history page on the UNSIGNED zed entry, no matter how 'evidence free' the accusations of barricade bots and cheating are. However, there is no reason for the repeated deletion of my recent entry :

August 6th, 2006 MORRISH NT becomes the symbol for conspiracy theories, sore losers and whiners everywhere as the burb goes green for the first time in a month. Still plagued by Stallone's, and PKr's, survivors start a building by building search for remaining targets in the neighborhood, while enjoying copious amounts of free beer. --Samual Clemons

-this entry is neither in bad faith, nor is it untrue. Can you please explain to me why it's OK for a zed to accuse everyone in Pitneybank of cheating in Pitneybanks history repeatedly, but it's not ok for a survivor to note that this is the behavior of sore losers? That's just nonesense! If the Aug 6th entry is NOT ok, then neither are entries that accuse Pitneybank of cheating sans hard (or any) evidence. SC has now retreacted some more of the heresay evidence in the discussion page for Pitneybank. Please reinstate this entry, or remove ALL entries from the history that show any bias. Thanks! --Samual Clemons 02:42, 8 August 2006 (BST)

I'll be entering this matter for arbitration, thanks for your time.--Samual Clemons 02:42, 8 August 2006 (BST)


Are things allowed to be put up for deletion for being fucking retarded --Tethran 17:58, 7 August 2006 (BST)

In this case, nominate it for speedy. It falls under criterion 1. –Xoid MTFU! 17:59, 7 August 2006 (BST)

Just how offensive would a white pride rally be?

I'd like to keep it EXTREMELY tolerant and non-offensive. A tolerant white pride rally isn't grounds for a bad faith edit if I create an event page for it, is it? We'd like to keep the whole affair as clean as a white white snowflake. You know, for the children. Scinfaxi 07:30, 7 August 2006 (BST) Xoid, the machinery is turning and I can't stop it. I appreciate your advice, but I'm also very susceptible to peer pressure. We've decided to begin planning Operation White Storm. If you could look it over and spot ANY violations of wiki rules that would be appreciated. Scinfaxi 21:14, 7 August 2006 (BST)

Orphaned Rat-bastards!

Hello, Mr. Xoid, it's me again. I didn't want to pester you with my some-what pedantic questions so I went in search of the great wiki-guru's secret-fortress-of-wisdom (Grumble. I tried to be all semi-wiki-literate and insert a link here for you but nooooo! It don't like my link! anyway found here: talk:wiki questions (thank sweet baby-zombie-jezuz for "show preview" or I would've broke the wiki again!)) but apparently the wiki-guru is sleeping...or has gone on vacation...or something. No replies to my questions at this point-in-time. drat. Anyway, can I instead ask you a few wiki-questions about how to do stuff? Please, O pretty please? I am sorry to bother you, you seem quite busy...Vulnavia 03:47, 5 August 2006 (BST)

Eeeeheee! Mr. Xoid! I learned how to make a table! All by myself! And I put it on my user-page! And I finally learned how to do make a link to a user-psge! See: Vulnavia EEEEEE! I'm so proud of myself! I couldn't make any sense of the table instructions and then finally I said ah fuckit! I can't bug Mr. Xoid all the time! and I learnt how to make a table! Wheehee! Now I need to think of a really fun way to celebrate...Vulnavia 21:49, 9 August 2006 (BST)


I was trying to add links to this page, i suppose i should code them into the links instead of making redirects :P --DJSMITH CDF 18:04, 4 August 2006 (BST)


I fixed it. Was it acting wierd by turning on and off randomly? I also have a question. Is there a way to have a user pic? --Gold Blade 03:17, 4 August 2006 (BST)

Would you please

Take a look at M/SD, M/D, M/VB. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 01:59, 3 August 2006 (BST)

Now with 10% more cleaning power

{{JustSayNo}} (see my user page) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 23:32, 2 August 2006 (BST)

Picture Answer

Before, you said that my user spam picture was acting very strange. I thinkhis might be something similar. Is it? --Gold Blade 02:32, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Group Pages

I've searched a bit, but everything I found was old. Anyhow, this is concerning the group page rules. I see many pages who have 1, and sometimes 0, members (and are not historical), not to mention alot with 2. Aren't they required to have atleast 2 members...? -Certified=InsaneUG 00:09, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Sub-Page move?

Another moderator moved Heathers to FedCom/Heathers because it was thought to have a heavy bias, but they moved it into an association with my group, which is undesireable. Can you move this page somewhere more suitable, like Info/Heathers. FedCom just does not want to be associated with our enemies. Thanks. --Terminator 484 FedCom | DEM 17:53, 9 October 2006 (BST)


The complaints department. Serious grievances with me go under this heading. Due to people using this section for what it was not intended, I feel the need to remind people that this section is for serious stuff, not trifling disagreements.
Old "Criticism" messages may be found here.

Re: Blah Blah Blah...

  1. No, and I don't see how that analogy applies.
  2. I said no such thing. I said that simply because you're in the majority doesn't always mean you're right on fact-based issues, which the discussion revolved around during the early stages of you using that argument.
  3. I'm not. In addition, you've used this argument several times and have yet to rationalize it. This isn't a review so much as it is the ban. As for your cops analogy, the temporary, mod-imposed ban represents the arrest, the voting is the trial, and the appeals can be through e-mail, as you've said.
  4. Yes, I know. I'm not suggesting it because I think it'll be faster or more efficient, I'm suggesting it because, as I've said, I like democracy and think the inconvenience is worth it.

--J Muller 01:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

We aren't allowed to disagree? I don't think it would work. What are you going to do about it?--Gage 01:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Where did you get the idea that I said that?--J Muller 03:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
You have been shoving the idea down our throats since the beginning...--Gage 04:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
You have yet to actually rationalize/give an example of that. I'm not shoving anything anywhere, if you want to disagree, go ahead. Until you actually explain this claim, it's no more a valid statement than if I said I single-handedly controlled the United States with the remote control for my DVD player.--J Muller 04:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Mods already have to wade through enough bureaucracy as it is. Don't attack me with the red tape! It is simply too much work for me to be bothered with. I recognize that you think that democracy is better, but I think our elected aristocracy is much more simple (and therefore better). You will not convince us, and you obviously are extremely stuborn. Drop it. Now.--Gage 04:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

3.00? Re: our Order of Posts vs thy Order of Contents

but Xoid, dear fellow, your beautiful Contents Listy Thing, with the quicky-clicky access to the topic in question, runs top-to-bottom and so no-one wants to post at the top of the lists because it would be out of sequence, and un-numberable (unless, like me, you flog the number n-point-00...) so, er, um, how do you want this done, or will the Wiki wikimatically renumber every item in the list later? We fears to makes work for thee! Sassie 15:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki automatically renumbers entries in the TOC when a new heading is added/inserted. As long as a third level heading is used for new messages, there's no problems with numbering. Most recent at the top, oldest at the bottom. The less scrolling that needs to be done, the better. I could always try Grim s' way of doing things; but that tends to require more scrolling, in my experience, and is less intuitive than my style. Matter of preference when it comes down to it. –Xoid MTFU! 01:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Permabanning

  1. If he wants to get himself permabanned, I say let him go ahead
  2. It's been pointed out that there is an entirely respectable possiblity that it's the same person anyway. I'm helping fight the original permaban.

I've only been around here for a few months, so I don't know any of them. It says in the post that Amazing will continue to post under an adjective-based username, and Rueful is an adjective. And if he's so committed to greifing Amazing, why does he want him back? --J Muller 06:55, 21 October 2006 (BST)

I suggest you look through the history tab of the GANKBUS page. Also, look through the Arbitration archive, specifically at the "Wikigate" case. Rueful wants Amazing back so his buddies can have fun tormenting him again. -- Alan Watson T·RPM 23:54, 21 October 2006 (BST)

From CaptainM

Thank's for being the biggest backstabber I have ever had the "joy" of meeting in my life. Thank you so much Xoid, you've probably fucked me over as royally as you possibly could have, without physically inserting your penis, into my Anus. Your a fucking douche, and you should be exxpecting some major payback soon.

Make him pay the price, gut him all you want, he deserves worse.

You deserve even worse, you backstabbing piece of shit. --CaptainM 05:39, 5 October 2006 (BST)

You gave your word. You broke it. You feel betrayed? Don't make me laugh. You knew what the consequences would be, I take cheating seriously; you deserve all you get and worse. –Xoid MTFU! 06:57, 5 October 2006 (BST)
It was the most literal sense of an utter accident. I was on my way to Darvall heights, see someone with a D name for the Alphabet game, and kill him, then move on. I didn't look at the building I was in, or even the suburb. It took Gage showing me that image on my talk page to realize what Ihad done. I'm not trying to condone it, as theres no way to prove that it was an accident, if I had realized that this was some hardcore zergin at the time, I obviously wouldn't have done it, but it's kindof hard when you kill someone, then go back to your safehouse and on the way through with the other character, fail to realize you were just there. --CaptainM 07:03, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Four seconds passed between those kills. You simply cannot log out and log back in, and kill someone in that short a time. It's an impossibility. –Xoid MTFU! 07:09, 5 October 2006 (BST)
My bad, four minutes. Regardless, call me skeptical if I have a hard time believing that you managed to forget comitting a PK in a mere four minutes. –Xoid MTFU! 07:19, 5 October 2006 (BST)
It's not so much that I forgot, I was making kills for the Alphabet Game, and I saw somebody with an E name, so I attacked, then later with SM was on my way to Caiger, saw a D name, killed him too. I can't expect anyone really to believe that it was a complete accident, because as Gage said it's a 1/10,000 chance to accidentally make 2 PKs in the same building, and I most certainly wouldn't believe me if I were someone else observing this... --CaptainM 07:33, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Also, you are kind of a shitty person.Jjames 07:43, 5 October 2006 (BST)
You could cut the hypocrisy in that statement with a butter knife.--Gage 07:46, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Man butter. --CaptainM 07:53, 5 October 2006 (BST)

Can someone explain this to me? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 07:55, 5 October 2006 (BST)

My Talk, My stripping of membership, And Xoid reporting me to Rezzens. --CaptainM 08:00, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Ah. You're a zerger. What were you doing with both of those characters in the same place so soon after the other? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:05, 5 October 2006 (BST)
"It's not so much that I forgot, I was making kills for the Alphabet Game, and I saw somebody with an E name, so I attacked, then later with SM was on my way to Caiger, saw a D name, killed him too. I can't expect anyone really to believe that it was a complete accident, because as Gage said it's a 1/10,000 chance to accidentally make 2 PKs in the same building, and I most certainly wouldn't believe me if I were someone else observing this..." --CaptainM 08:33, 5 October 2006 (BST)
If you understand about Xoid not believing you, why are you pissed at him? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:38, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Because of what he said on Rezzens, Make him pay the price, gut him all you want, he deserves worse, it was a really backstabby move. --CaptainM 08:46, 5 October 2006 (BST)
I'm supposed to, what, stand by you when you cheat? Give me a break. –Xoid MTFU! 09:04, 5 October 2006 (BST)

From jjamesfaxi

You have not done enough to protect my reputation Xoid. I was previously known as a kind, fair headed contributor who caused little or no problems. No look at this SHIT, I am being accused of agitation and destruction. I can't even walk down the wiki street without being criticised or accused of being a vandal. It haunts me. You need to fix this. Right now. --Scinfaxi 09:57, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Also, can I take jjames to vandal banning for bringing the heat down on me? Or would I get banned again? --Scinfaxi 09:58, 27 September 2006 (BST)
You wouldn't get banned, but I don't see there being any chance of your case against him succeeding. So, it'd be pointless. Mainly because it's not actually an act of vandalism. –Xoid MTFU! 12:45, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Did you ever notice how gay the entire wiki is? I mean really, lets stop and think about this. It's a wiki for a game you can play for maybe ten minutes a day. I think trolling and annoying people has got to be the best use of this medium. Really I do. Scinfaxi 00:47, 16 October 2006 (BST)

From Cheezymadman/Blue Command Vic

I have two characters, but I'm not using the first very much anymore. I moved my User page to match the name of the character I'm using exclusively from now on. It was nominated for speedy deletion by you. I checked the speedy delete page, and it was not listed. I removed the speedydelete tag, and expect it to stay gone. Thank you. Cheezymadman 22:43, 31 August 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

From Captain Douchebag

Go fuck yourself and your arrogance you insignificant little self-important prick. You sad little man. J4m3z 22:21, 11 August 2006 (BST)


As a mod, you are aware our page violates no rules. Why then drag us to arbitration? This only further inflames tensions and makes it more difficult to hold reasoned debate. I'm not sure what you think of my motivations or intentions, but know this. I am 100% committed to preserving free speech and an exchange of ideas on the wiki. I feel like I'm fighting for your rights too, xoid. I do have a possible solution though. If we can get Operation Black Storm to focus on black pride and not putting down another race, why not hold both rallys side by side peacefully? What better way to challenge the racist stereotpyes of violent black men and ecil oppressive whites? We can stand in pride together like MLK and Lincoln would have wanted to. --Jjames 04:36, 11 August 2006 (BST)

Can you spell "hypocrite!"? You try to censor Karlsbad, and yet complain to me about the same thing? You try to jam through a new rule in arbitration because of his apt description of you as a "troll lawyer", yet criticise me for using arbitration to jam through a new rule on your idiocy? H. Y. P. O. C. R. I. T. E. –Xoid MTFU! 10:12, 12 August 2006 (BST)
I'm not trying to censor Karlsbad or create a new rule. Karlsbad made a bad faith edit when he said I was Scinfaxi's alt. He can't prove this, so he isn't allowed to state it as fact. Similar to zerging claims have resulted in arbitration before. I have already said I'd be satisfied with him clarifying that he can't prove his opinion and not making a statement of fact about it. The only reason I mentioned he called me a "troll lawyer' was to show his attitude towards me. the rule he broke was posting untrue information about me. You may not like me, xoid, but the least you could do is show the same respect i show you and refrain from calling me names. Ad hominem attacls don't solve anything. And two wrongs don't make a right. This event is no more off topic than Mc Zeds, pk day, or a million others. You don't like the idea behind it, that's all. If you create this precedent, you will only hurt the wiki.Jjames 22:41, 12 August 2006 (BST)


I thought bothering the BME was my gig? What's this ASS wikistroying them business? Do I have to say those three little letters in all caps I've been laughing about all night? Do I? You thundar thieves!!-That's Why I did your Wife 03:42, 22 July 2006 (BST)

Nev-err.</snooty french accent, ala "Monty Python" > I'm just waiting until I'm suddenly M Tek, Denzel Washington, Wyndallin, Stroth, Little Lisa, Banana Bear4, and about twelve other people. Good stuff. –Xoid MTFU! 03:50, 22 July 2006 (BST)

A lovely conversation continued

This will be the last i'll say about this, if you want to respond feel free, I'll read it and take it as advice. But I'm finished with this.

Part one I was utterly incredulous that Karlsbad made the choice to drop it at first as this was a clear cut case of vandalism to me. And it wasn't. Doesn’t that tell you something? Karlsbad left that possibility open, I left that possibility open. You didn't and you were wrong.

You said that the warning that Karlsbad gave was justified. The warning that Karlsbad decided on giving, after I questioned him deciding to retract it. Then you say that I don't know what I'm talking about? No you seemed to think that I was calling the warning incorrect, I wanted to make sure that you knew that I had not made any comment about what the punishment should be, as that was up to Karlsbad. I said that you didn't know what you were talking about not because I disagreed with the outcome of your intervention but because that both karlsbad original ruling and the one he made in response to you were in spirit of the rules and you put your comment in a way that left no doubt that a warning was the only possible outcome of that report to your belief.

You see I think that you not only lack tact or subtlety but also clear judgement in some cases. No mater how moderate you try to be by following the rules to the best of your ability and judge each case on a case-by-case basis I think both your tendency to be to quick to assume the worst and your temperament makes that your behaviour and judgement is not up to the role you take up as moderator in my opinion. If you know that you lack certain qualities why do you vandal duties that are so heavily dependant on them? You're work outside vandal banning is incredible. Your work in vandal banning I've got big problems with. Especially as you tag-team a lot with cyberbob whose work as a Behavioural Mod I would qualify as abysmal.

You lack common sense — he vandalised a user page, and Bonefiver has been around long enough to know better. I'm frankly sick and fucking tired of your "go soft on them, even when they have deliberately done something wrong" approach. and if you had wanted to set the record straight you missed out on this comment.

You see not only did he not vandalise that page (minor point, but important) and I don't have a “go soft on them, even when they have deliberately done something wrong" approach. I have "use a minimum amount of force to get maximum result" kind of approach. It's my job to keep this wiki function as best as it can. And by simply asking not only do I get the same result as warning them 9 times out of 10 I also do it in a way that doesn't piss a lot of users off like your way does. And for 1 out of 10 that doesn't respond to simply asking him to quit his actions? I warn and ban them just as quick anybody. I've probably banned at least as many people as anybody here, but because I don't use theatrics and go WHAT. THE. FUCK. or BANNED HAMER THIS FUCKER! Nobody notices. And I like it that way. Minimum amount of drama, maximum amount of result.

Part two ‘‘Or are you forgetting the two-and-a-half fucking hour circular logic fest you subjected me to at 3 in the morning?

Thank you of reminding me of that fricking disaster, you know I like it very much to go on MSN. Especially if I have a stomach flue, had slept 3 hour the previous evening because of that and have to break a deadline at work to do so. But hé I was asked to do so. Never mind the fact that if the timing wasn't to your liking I had given you an alternative.

Then instead of the one-on-one conversation I thought you wanted you wanted to bring cyberbob in. I had rather you didn't but I thought that he would have something useful to say. His contribution was of such high quality that for the first time in about a year of UD and a half year of editing on the wiki I got angry with somebody for real. Perhaps that wouldn't have happened if his conversation had consisted of something else then FUCK THAT REF, :WALL:, you'RE STUPID and xoid I wonder why I never say things as wonderful as you do. I've only heard one worthwhile contribution from him and that turned out to be wrong. I still wonder why the hell he was there. And seeing what a wonderful time he had I wonder why he just didn't but out because it was very apparent that he didn't have to stay on my account.

Now after listening to a long whine fest how much you both were mistreated on a forum that has 10 members were you didn't even get your facts straight, I dared to say something that neither you or cyberbob liked I got flamed to hell. Whoop ti doo. What joy. now if you and your little me too had just chilled out you both would have noticed the first time round that what I said was just a description of how forums normally set up AND IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN FIVE MINUTES INSTEAD OF HOURS instead I got 2 hours of YOU ARE TEH STUPID, NO IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, :WALL: :WALL: I would have been able to progress beyond that point to make my case. So what do I get after that idiotic 2 hours: You saying, Well yeah of course that work normally works that way, SO? So if you just said that 2 hours earlier instead starting to flame me every time I said that I could have told you the SO Now I don't want you to think I'm neglecting my role here. I should have kept the conversation between us two as it was only you who requested the conversation. I shouldn't have reacted cyberbob's childish spamming. And most of all when I noticed that you both weren't listening I should've stopped the conversation. But most of all I should never have had that conversation as I should have know that you weren't interested in a conversation but merely wanted to vent. I shouldn't have let me get used for that. But seeing that I didn't I can only say: I'm sorry that I didn't do that, I could have done a lot to make sure that it didn't derail into that ugly conversation. But if you're laying the fault only at my feet and not yours’ as well, you can go fuck yourself.

Yours, -- Vista 02:15, 29 June 2006 (BST)

Man, that is the most awesome thing I have ever read on this wiki. --Zod Rhombus 06:37, 29 June 2006 (BST)
Did you have anything even mildly important to add, or are you too busy fawning over Vista? –Xoid MTFU! 06:51, 29 June 2006 (BST)


Part I

"This will be the last i'll say about this, if you want to respond feel free, "…I'll read it and take it as advice. But I'm finished with this."

I was more than willing to let it drop, I had half of that reply written and nearly thought better of it until you moved your irrelevant crap back. I was even then, going to let it slide, until I read your edit summary. Relevant to the case? No, it was no more relevant than what came after it.
I ask you this: were we supposed to wait until he showed back up? As I said to Crossbow, the possibility existed that he could well have been hit by a bus. What's a reasonable delay here? One second? One minute? One hour? One day? One month? Where do you want to draw the line, and who else would've received one of your "informative" messages were they to act even a moment before you felt that a reasonable delay had passed?

"I disagreed with the outcome of your intervention but because that both karlsbad original ruling and the one he made in response to you were in spirit of the rules and you put your comment in a way that left no doubt that a warning was the only possible outcome of that report to your belief."

Yet another case of you thinking you are making yourself clear, when you have done anything but. The second clause of the sentence makes sense, the first is painfully fractured English. Fractured to the point where, if not for the second clause, your meaning would not have got across at all.
You assume too much. Vandalism = warning. Therefore by inferrence: Not vandalism = no warning. If Crossbow came back, even three months later, and said "not vandalism", the warning should be retracted.

"…and if you had wanted to set the record straight you missed out on this comment."

Then the nuances must've been lost on you, then. See, I can be condescending as well.

"…because I don't use theatrics and go WHAT. THE. FUCK. or BANNED HAMER THIS FUCKER! Nobody notices. And I like it that way. Minimum amount of drama, maximum amount of result…"

You could have said it all with three words: "Xoid, be civil." Instead you started out with an erroneous assumption and compounded upon it by giving unneeded and unwanted "advice".
I know I said I wouldn't continue this, but what the hay. You were right. I was still pissed about that IM conversations I was to hasty and in error. Looking back it was also a sign that I was turning sour from all the pressure IRL and should have taken a long break sooner. I find it unfortunate that it happend. O well, spoiled milk, etc. But anyway, now the bureaucrat position might come open again, I think you should go for it. Good luck.--Vista 22:02, 27 July 2006 (BST)
Part II

Retracted part two, pending a re-write. –Xoid MTFU! 09:47, 29 June 2006 (BST)

Since I'm having the rug pulled out here, I want to say this. Xoid, you were laughing at my responses. Laughing. Not rebuking me. And I did tone it down towards the end, you idiot. God... how has this turned from an argument into a let's-fuck-Bob-up-a-thon? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:10, 29 June 2006 (BST)
I laughed at the funnier responses. I know you toned it down towards the end, but it was too little, too late. Edit: you also know that near the end I told you to STOP IT, after you continually ignored my requests in the main window. –Xoid MTFU! 09:17, 29 June 2006 (BST)
Xoid, Australia had just been knocked out of the World Cup on the shittiest decision I've ever seen. Now, I know you may not care about soccer, but I. Was. Pissed. And had to vent. OK? You know all about venting, don't you Xoid? (Oh, and I stopped, just like you asked.) --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 09:21, 29 June 2006 (BST)


Using templates to diss users on pages you visit in an official capacity is not giving a good example and totally unnecessary. I've removed them from the pages itself. I'd rather you not do it at all. But limit them to a talk page at least. We're the moderation staff, not drama queens. --Vista 17:59, 20 June 2006 (BST)

I wasn't going to respond to this, but your recent habit of butting in with irrelvant and ill thought out criticism has me on knife's edge. The templates are there to be used as a flashy trump card. I could quite easily have said the same thing as the template has within it, and there is suddenly no issue? Of course not, and you know it. Either criticise what was said, instead of how it was said, or go away. –Xoid MTFU! 06:55, 29 June 2006 (BST)

From Darth Sensitive

On the spamination of the "Grappling Hook" suggestion from June 16. Do you really believe that it's appropriate to note the hatred for Labine50. I know that he does a poor job of adding worthwhile comments to the page, but I do believe that your comment afterwards was over the top. Other than that, the reason for spamination seemed good, but I think you've contributed to the uncivility of the suggestions page. --Darth Sensitive talkW! 04:58, 17 June 2006 (BST)

From Odd Starter

Xoid, is it really necessary to change Melee Weapons to the archaic spelling form that pretty much noone in the english language uses anymore, and is in fact the French spelling of the term, and thus has no place in Modern English, and is impractical for the average, regular English typer to type, and (most likely) causes a ton of broken redirects?

Seriously, Melee is the correct spelling of the term. It's really not necessary. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 11:52, 16 June 2006 (BST)

Oh fine. I'll undo it then. –Xoid MTFU! 11:59, 16 June 2006 (BST)

From Conndraka

Consider me shot... Feel free to take over any and all of my Wiki projects. The number of pages you deleted was unnecessary to delete. Once the pages were created there wasn't any harm in leaving them. i.e. there was no need to delete them. You want to make it your wiki? Have fun. And no, I do everything by hand.. no bots. Conndrakamod T W! 02:29, 16 June 2006 (BST)

WHINE ABOUT IT! --SirensT RR 03:09, 16 June 2006 (BST)
The number of pages you created, breaking criterion 11 was unnecessary. Everyone else can make a members list. I mean, hell, you already have one. Is it that hard to request members make their name link to their user page if they have one? Creating shit loads of no content pages only frustrates people who are looking for something to read. You have been warned about this before by Novelty. You should know better. –Xoid MTFU! 08:06, 16 June 2006 (BST)

From Grim s

While i appreciate your trying to fix my spelling when i left someone a message, your edit conflict prevented me from doing so myself and adding another section of the comment i had accidentally deleted. Please back off and wait more than 40 seconds to let other people fix their typos. Thank you. --Grim s-Mod 11:46, 9 June 2006 (BST)

'k. –Xoid MTFU! 11:48, 9 June 2006 (BST)

From Zizanie13

"This suggestion has been deemed humorous. It has been moved here. Before removal it had 3 Spam votes, 7 total votes. –Xoid MTFU! 02:41, 6 June 2006 (BST)"

Just curious as to why mine was deleted outright, and this one was thoughtfully moved over? I'm seriously not trying to bust your balls, I'm just still trying to figure out how the rules are enforced. - Zizanie13 15:51, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Read what this section is for: serious issues, not this. This is trifling. As already stated, ask 'STER. It is highly likely that it was an honest mistake, but we'll never know unless you ask. –Xoid MTFU! 01:29, 7 June 2006 (BST)

From Inkypaws

Saying things like...
"You say it spoils the game. I say you are full of shit"
"Wanker. All you're doing is spouting the same bullshit every Anti-PK uses"
"You don't like our line of reasoning. Fine. But fuck off"
(Source here: being rude. It was uncalled for and unnecessary. In case you thought it was funny, or comic, it isn't. It is offensive, and very dissapointing to hear, coming from a moderator. It would be nice if you could express your thoughts in a more polite manner. --Inkypaws 10:21, 6 June 2006 (BST)

You know, moderators are just like every other user in non-mod stuff discussions. Grim s is just as offensive... sometimes more so. Grow a thick skin. plzdiekthxbai. (Don't worry Xoid; I've got ya covered :D) --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:50, 6 June 2006 (BST)
I'm still writing something to hammer it through this numbnut's thick skull. Pffft. "Unnecessary Rudeness". So what the fuck is "Necessary Rudness" then? –Xoid MTFU! 10:55, 6 June 2006 (BST)
I'd say it's when you're dealing with n00bs like Mattiator :D --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:56, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Or self righteous arseholes who take it upon themselves to stop me from having fun — through their ignoring the naming convention I clearly have for headings under this section, and posting a load of crap. Oh yeah, also for filling up the "Kills List" sub-section with Anti-PK propaganda INSTEAD OF KILLS. Was it that hard to make a new heading, or do you lack opposable thumbs, Inkypaws? –Xoid MTFU! 11:01, 6 June 2006 (BST)
It's a Wiki, it has code everywhere, I made a mistake, I didn't screw up the layout on purpose. If it bugs you so much, reformat the page, or ask me to do it. But being rude and abusive is the wrong way to go about it. Please be more polite.--Inkypaws 11:11, 6 June 2006 (BST)
It has code everywhere? WTF? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:17, 6 June 2006 (BST)
You're just like a Jehovah's Witness… insufferably irritating self-righteous twit — NO ONE asked you to come along and try to convert us. We don't want to be and yet you continually waste our time with your unwanted and illogical crap. Leave us alone and I'll stop flaming you. Got it? –Xoid MTFU! 11:40, 6 June 2006 (BST)
What sort of a threat is that? Stop posting arguments against our position and we stop being rude? As in, stop animal testing and we'll stop burning your laboratories? This is NOT about PK-ing, it is a complaint about your incivility. It is not unreasonable to ask you to be polite when disagreeing with someone.--Inkypaws 11:55, 6 June 2006 (BST)
It was an offer, not a threat, dumbfuck. I have NO obligation to be polite to you. If you want me to be polite then kindly fuck off with your unwanted evangelical attempts at conversion. –Xoid MTFU! 12:04, 6 June 2006 (BST)
To be honest Inkypaws, it wasn't particularly civil of you to call the page lame and accuse the people contributing to that page griefers. It is not a good way to start a discussion. By doing that you can expect that people will react more negative to you and your points, than had you started with a rational and non inflammatory remark. Civility is a two way street.--Vista 12:11, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Swfjmq.jpg Oh Snap!
Someone just got served!
:D --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:12, 6 June 2006 (BST)
It's one thing to call a page lame - it's another to address a specific user as a "dumbfuck". Yes, I called it griefing, because to the people being PKed, that's what it is. If it's your opinion that I was uncivil, then it also must be that Xoid is far more guilty of that than I am. (The intention was not to be inflammatory - it was more that I was amazed at that people were being encouraged to spoil the game experience for others).--Inkypaws 12:22, 6 June 2006 (BST)
If it wasn't intended to be inflammatory, why did you continue with it after it was plain that, in fact, it was inflammatory? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:23, 6 June 2006 (BST)
You set the tone for the arguement by calling the page lame, and everyone who supports PKing griefers. You don't insult something that people have put effort into and expect a civil response unless you are really thick. Oh yeah, and ending your insult with an ad hominem attack was really going to impress us, wasn't it? No wait, it didn't. –Xoid MTFU! 12:41, 6 June 2006 (BST)
A single inflammatory sentence (which I have already explained, and I am sorry for) does not excuse your incivility. Calling a page "lame" or a group of players "griefers" is not a personal attack, calling me a "dumbfuck" is. Plus, I continued from that with reasoned argument, and did not respond to your abuse with abuse.--Inkypaws 13:01, 6 June 2006 (BST)
No, you're right, it wasn't a personal attack, it was an attack on all of us. Here's an award. Now go preach somewhere else. –Xoid MTFU! 13:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)
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Inkypaws and has no reedeming value.
Note - Inkypaws, if you post in this discussion after Xoid asked you to go away, you can be reported for Vandalism (Xoid, that is an AWESOME template! I'm so using it). --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 13:10, 6 June 2006 (BST)

How is that constructive? It would just push the complaint back into the PK-day talk page, where it does not belong. As far as vandalism goes, this isn't profanity, page blanking, or abusive content - under what guideline is me complaining in a civil manner about rudeness "vandalism"?--Inkypaws 13:31, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Obviously you didn't read my comment. *sigh* Now I'll go report you. Have fun! --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 13:32, 6 June 2006 (BST)
At this point in time, the rules say that I have full carte blanche over what happens within my talk page. If I no longer wish to be subjected to your inane banter, then that means when I say 'go away and bother someone else, preachy', that you go away. You have already made your complaint. I don't have the time, or the patientence to beat you in a duel of "lets keep refuting the annoying moron who never stops throwing rebuttals my way, despite the fact that each one is more ludicrous than the last". Now fuck off. Get lost. Play hide and go fuck yourself. Spontaneously combust. I. DON'T. CARE. Just deposit your persistant idiocy elsewhere. –Xoid MTFU! 14:00, 6 June 2006 (BST)

From Zizanie13

Previous message may be found here.

Bahhh! Wasn't meant as vandalism, though I won't do it again. Incedentally, someone completely erased my "Collective Consciousness" suggestion yesterday, not even leaving the title up. Why don't you go hunt them down for not following the rules? Aren't you supposed to at least leave the heading up? Zizanie13 17:54, 4 June 2006 (BST)

You should have read the rules, sport. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:55, 4 June 2006 (BST) PS: I tracked down that person that deleted your suggestion. IT was 'STER, here. This could actually be vandalism. What do you think, Xoid? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:59, 4 June 2006 (BST)
I never bothered hunting someone down, it was reported to vandal banning and was acted on accordingly. It clearly says in the rules that it is to be treated as vandalism. You have a problem with that, then read the rules first. It's not like they were posted there for decoration, y'know. –Xoid MTFU! 18:02, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Did you even read my PS? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 18:03, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Moderators can remove crap if it is >50% spam voted and has at least 3 Spam votes. 'STER still should've left the heading (and transferred it to peer rejected. If it appears there, then it cannot be judged as bad faith. Otherwise, it's up to whatever you think. I've never seen 'STER do something like that before and he keeps his nose clean. I'd say: honest mistake.) As to the PS, I had already written that when an edit conflicted occured. So, no I didn't have a chance to read it just yet. –Xoid MTFU! 18:10, 4 June 2006 (BST)
It's not in Peer Rejected... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 18:12, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Well the, Zizanie13 can make his claim, if he wants to. Knowing 'STER's record, I doubt he'll get punished though. –Xoid MTFU! 19:22, 4 June 2006 (BST)
I'm not interested in getting this guy in trouble if he made an honest mistake, though it would be nice if he told me that he took it off. - Zizanie13 15:42, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I'm not even sure he knew he did it. You may want to ask him about it. Just be polite, and you shouldn't have any troubles from him. He's a nicer bloke than most of us. –Xoid MTFU! 15:50, 5 June 2006 (BST)
In my experience, most rules are suggestion. Besides, like I said, I won't do it again. So are you going to spank the mean man who erased my sorry suggestion? - Zizanie13 18:07, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Most rules are suggestions? What kind of crazy world do you live in? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 18:09, 4 June 2006 (BST)
The one where red lights are occsionally run at 3am and coffee mugs get refilled without paying the extra quarter. - Zizanie13 15:42, 5 June 2006 (BST)
I know what you mean. Who the hell ever goes 60k/h in a 60k/h zone. Doesn't mean it's right though. Just a tip mate, don't reference American money around us true blue Aussies — we might send a dingo after your baby. –Xoid MTFU! 15:50, 5 June 2006 (BST)
What makes it an American quarter? I could have said I didn't want to pay the extra Looney. Not to mislead you, I am an American, but of Canadian extraction. So long live the commonwealths and all that rot. ;) - Zizanie13 23:27, 5 June 2006 (BST)

From Scinfaxi

See Xoid, wouldn't the world be a better place if we all simply ignored Amazing's pleas for help. Anyways, sorry you got banned. I've never filed a misconduct case, mainly because I'm not that much of a faggot. I really doubt you were banning me for my own good or to get me to come to my senses (I'm already sensible and polite damnit). I think this entire situation serves as a lesson for all of us. Let Scinfaxi do whatever he wants on his talk pages and ignore whiney little bitches who can't afford a razer. Scinfaxi 17:32, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I can only hope that Amazing doesn't see that comment, Scinfaxi. The resulting catastrophic detonation of his DramaBombTM would engulf the entire wiki in flames (in both senses of the word). --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:36, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Oh I really doubt that bob. I mean really, I edit like four fucking pages on the wiki (and not even on a regular basis). Am I REALLY that important? Scinfaxi 17:38, 4 June 2006 (BST)
The ban actually was for that purpose; if he can stop being such a cock and go back to actually contributing to the wiki there wouldn't be any drama — and I didn't want to see anyone getting banned for a week/month/whatever just because he was shit-stirring again. (At the very least, this incident has kept him busy with someone else.) –Xoid MTFU! 17:42, 4 June 2006 (BST)


If you want to tell me what I've done that impresses you, place it under this heading...
Old "Praise" messages may be found here.
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Ablesentinel has given Xoid a cookie for for being so cool and helping so many idiot NooBs including me!.

-Ablesentinel 17:27, 26 October 2006 (BST)

The Suggestions Diff

Xoid. Thanks for the Diff. Much appreciated. The other mods need to learn to be a little more noob helpful.--SporeSore 13:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip

Sorry that I should discuss before put my suggestion into vote. Thanks. --Smore 05:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)]


You have earned it.

Muffin.jpg A FREE MUFFIN
Thari has given Xoid a free muffin for removing two tumors from the wiki.

--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 13:18, 4 October 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the tip

Thanks for the tip on my mall gameplay idea. I'll keep that in mind.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 19:20, 2 October 2006 (BST)


Thanks for the help with the signature. I'll instant message you on AIM when I get the chance.

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A1C Jerry has given Xoid a cookie for helping him with his signature. And that he has always wanted to hand out a cookie.

--A1C JerryASSPKASAT08:16, 23 August 2006 (BST)

From JakeWeber

Thanks for that xoid, much appreciated. Don't worry I wont do anything similar again, honestly didn't realise it would be a problem. JakeWeber 16:55 22 August 2006 (BST)

From DarkStar2374383 (aka Thank God)

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DarkStar2374383 has given Xoid a cookie for cleaning up the idiocy

--DarkStar2374383 Talk | LDY | LOE 14:21, 20 August 2006 (BST


Xoid, I really appreciate all the help you've given me so far, especially considering I am new to the wiki. The fact that you took the time to answer a response to a question almost a month old. Thanks again. --John Blast 16:25, 16 August 2006 (BST)


Thanks for pointing out the template and the ICB Disambiguation page --DJSMITH CDF 14:14, 16 August 2006 (BST)

Thank you

I completely forgot I did that. Thank you for reverting it and informing me. It will definately not happen again. Bangadesh 04:53, 16 August 2006 (BST)

Nigerian Bankers

Nice one! New Wiki meme! Lets try to run it into the ground as fast as possible! There will be so many dead business men! -That's Why I did your Wife 03:39, 9 August 2006 (BST)

I am a Nigerian banker and a wealthy foreign businessman died recently leaving no heir. In order to claim this large sum of money, please post more praise on Xoid's talk page. –Xoid MTFU! 03:41, 9 August 2006 (BST)
Praise. Praise. Praise. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 03:43, 9 August 2006 (BST)
Consider the wiki vandalized. And dude, you're awesome. Now put the gold in the basket. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 04:02, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Thank you

It is always nice to be welcomed to somewhere. --Neraka Knight 16:37, 4 August 2006 (BST)


For taking down the 3 page wiki vandal by yourself. I now award you this cookie.

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Darth Sensitive has given Xoid a cookie for for defeating the 3pwv by himself.

--Darth Sensitive Talk W! 06:28, 1 August 2006 (BST)

*Blinks* A template I was unaware of? Shame on me. Thanks for the cookie Darth, I'll add it to my collection. –Xoid MTFU! 06:31, 1 August 2006 (BST)

Whipped Cream and Gratitude

Dear Mr. Xoid, I hope this message doesn't break your talk-page or anything, but I really wanted to say how much I appreciate your fixing my user-page for me when I was all lost and confuzzled. I left you a reply message to your message on my talk page expressing my supremely heart-felt gratitude but I realized you might not know the message was there, and I didn't want you to think that I didn't appreciate your help! Anyway, I have to get back to fixing the Necrophiliac Lounge's wikity-page, but thank you soooo much for helping me! You're such a lovely Yummy man. Whipped Cream, nibbles, and gratitude from Vulnavia 22:24, 31 July 2006 (BST)

My work

You done done it for me. Thanks you big pimp. I'm gonna go to arbitration now instead of tomorrow. Peow! Peow! Commence laser dodging!!-That's Why I did your Wife 06:20, 31 July 2006 (BST)

From Paradox244

Heck, you're cool. And funny, and good with the suggestions. So keep in touch, okay? --Paradox244 02:56, 14 July 2006 (BST)

Re: your user page

You're doing a good job, and you're a nice bloke, and it's fucking rude of you to just disappear. Now my watchlist is just boring. :P –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 05:29, 9 July 2006 (BST)


Hey bro, thanks for keepin' me posted on the continuing saga of Legend X. We make team up haha? -Banana Bear 05:45, 5 July 2006 (BST)

Oh Snap I put it at the bottom! sorry. Sorry. My bad. -Banana Bear 06:09, 5 July 2006 (BST)
You saved the day once more! hahah. Who knew three tildes was not five? Not me-Banana Bear 06:13, 5 July 2006 (BST)

Discussion page edit

Just wanted to thank you for correcting my incorrect signature. I'm relatively new to wiki so I usually would mimick others format if I didn't know what the standard was for the page. Since all the names had { instead of [ around them I thought it called for a different format. I've got it down now, or at least that part of it. EMAG TRESNI 15:03, 4 July 2006 (BST)


Thanks for the reformat on the template. Still on the learning curve and the edits make sense when I compaired the differences. --Rabbi Bob 13:57, 4 July 2006 (BST)

Returned to put this at the top and it was're too fast. --Rabbi Bob 13:59, 4 July 2006 (BST)
I'm Quick Draw McGraw, I am! --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 14:03, 4 July 2006 (BST)

Dunell Hills Monuments

Big thanks for fixing the monuments page for Dunell Hills. I will get the rest of the location pages up to par. --Darth Sensitive talkW! 02:59, 2 July 2006 (BST)

My user page

Thanks a bunch for fixing that formatting up. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 18:01, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the Advice

You've been a huge help to me so far, and thanks for the advice. I posted a followup comment/question for you on my talk page, but had to drop a message into the catagory to say that the V for Vendetta rules, and people who like that movie also rule, so by simple deduction, you rule. "Remember remember the 5th of November- the gunpowder treason and plot".--ErynSMA 08:44, 26 June 2006 (BST)

From Codename V

I thank you for your dubious, yet never the less apparent support for this campaign that shall reach its fulcrum on the 5th of November. I make it my policy to personally thank all those who leave their name on the wiki, and thus I believe with your support and the support of your undead bretheren, this battle shall be large and bloody, just as we like it. --Codename V 02:58, 23 June 2006 (BST)

From the Loose Cannons

Thanks for giving us a warning that our recruitment page was going to expire! --Koppie 18:22, 14 June 2006 (BST)

From CaptainM

I would like to GREATLY thank you for your tolerance and understanding with helping a newb with the ways of the wiki. --CaptainM 08:20, 10 June 2006 (BST)

No problem. As long as people are wiling to learn, I'm much less of a bastard. (Hell, in some cases I can even be nice. Shock! Horror! er…) –Xoid MTFU! 08:26, 10 June 2006 (BST)

From Mia

Thanks for pointing out the bad link on the Red Rum site. It's been fixed. --SirensT RR 04:41, 8 June 2006 (BST)

...Now register your PKer, darn you :P --SirensT RR 17:05, 11 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks again ^^ --SirensT RR 14:36, 13 June 2006 (BST)

N/P. I had a feeling you'd prefer a blue link. (At the moment there is a redirect there; no idea how long that will last for. Depends on what The General's answer to my question is.) –Xoid MTFU! 14:43, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Pointless Chatter

Should speak for itself. This heading is for non-serious stuff that is not directly related to editing the wiki.
Old "Pointless Chatter" messages may be found here.

Thanks for trying to clear that up

But maybe I'm slow, how many times is a person allowed to keep doing that before you guys say its time to go? Irons was back maybe 15 seconds and got banned again for using the same proxy. --Jeff Oneil 02:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

re: FAQ Edit on Headshots

Hey, man; I was just trying to keep it up to date. If you want it to read like a discussion board, maybe you should state so clearly. Otherwise, don't be such a baby when people try to update your half-hearted attempt to answer a question. I seriously considered revamping half the drek on that FAQ. Keep your "U!" for those who are truly n00bs. In fact, if you want to be that unwelcoming, you'd better make damn sure that what you have to say is accurate and well-written! -Phoenixshade 10:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


Feel like talking? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 11:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, only I don't know which service of Trillian you mean...! Faerin 02:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hrm? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Well? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 04:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh. I thought you were inquiring with Faerin the first time you asked, his comment did seem pretty "Hrm?" worthy. –Xoid MTFU! 04:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, what did ya know...

Just so I can prove it to you, that is, that my edit of the promotions page was not in bad faith and that it was supported by respected members of the community, here it is (although it is a bit late). Just so you remember here was your comment. And here was the discussion which I acted upon. I know that it's too late and that it doesn't matter either way any more. But I was serious in what I said about wanting for both of us to be able to trust eachother again, and I feel that this is a step for that happening. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 11:15, 28 October 2006 (BST)

Because of all the Policys and Otherwise

Smiley.jpg Isn't this Amazing?
This user thinks that it is SO wonderful that SO many new users are SO concerned with Ancient Wiki History.

Because doesn't it just make you feel something WONDERFUL? --Karlsbad 09:02, 24 October 2006 (BST)


May I ask where your characters play? I am in the Northern half of the city and I've noticed most Wiki Members hang out around this area.--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 16:58, 21 October 2006 (BST)

Did you read the friendly, blinking notice at the top of the page? Notice how it say's third level heading? There's a reason for that. As to where I play? I tend to roam somewhat. Try northwestern, northern, southwestern, central, southeastern or eastern Malton. I have a character in each of those locales, if you care. –Xoid MTFU! 17:10, 21 October 2006 (BST)


Did you happen to notice the timestamp on that "vandalous" edit you reported me for? It was made nearly 4 weeks ago, and you Just Reported it. --DJSMITHCDF 21:13, 19 October 2006 (BST)

Sorry about that, You posted the comment on my talk page one second after i posted this --DJSMITHCDF 21:15, 19 October 2006 (BST)

PKer Revive

Crack-pipe.jpg It seemed like a good Idea…
Conndraka has given Xoid a crackpipe as an example to others

A little something something to give intelegent people who make ignorant mistakes or any other reason you could think of... Conndrakamod T CFT 20:16, 19 October 2006 (BST)

Request for DHPD assistance

The DHpd would be happy to assist, as long as it falls within our oeprational guidelines listed on our Policy and procedures page. Please submit all requests in triplicate at the appropriate window, Thank you for your interests. Conndrakamod T CFT 08:01, 17 October 2006 (BST) actually I've been meaning to contact you all about an issue...


I guess I forgot to tell you I had an Archive before you protected my pages...... --Axe Hack 17:25, 15 October 2006 (BST)

Problem solved. Just give give a ring if you need it moved somewhere for some reason or another. –Xoid MTFU! 17:30, 15 October 2006 (BST)
Thanks. And something for you as a sign of my appreciation...
Money tree.jpg Money Tree
Money Really Does Grow On Trees!

--Axe Hack 17:57, 15 October 2006 (BST)

Thanks, I'll add it the moment I can remember to. (Can't even visit my own user page with the connection I'm using at the moment. Yeesh.) –Xoid MTFU! 18:21, 15 October 2006 (BST)

Per your request

Profile --Conndrakamod T CFT 14:19, 14 October 2006 (BST)

Thanks. I'll be sure to pay him a visit when we reach the North West again. –Xoid MTFU! 05:53, 15 October 2006 (BST)

Just because

Smiley.png Feel the Love
This user is a Mod, and is loved for their efforts towards fighting stupidity.

--Conndrakamod T CFT 14:32, 9 October 2006 (BST)

Shameless Begging ~ Re: Zombie Tagging Suggestion

I'd like to beg anyone who cares (including Xoid) to vote Keep on my zombie tagging suggestion.. I need the keeps! Please! God help me, it's a good one.. please.. they can't use radios or cellphones.. let them tag their own messages.. aieeeeee.... MrAushvitz 01:29, 7 October 2006 (BST)

RR? -From Grant-

What's RR? --Crabman 21:25, 6 October 2006 (BST)

RR? -From Grant Page- Mrk.2

Ooooooh, that old peach! Yeah, I've kinda decided to stop shooting people mindlessly, fun as it was. Give my apologies to Sirens... --Grant Page 21:33, 6 October 2006 (BST)

Re: Vote Question

I voted this way primarily because of speed with which Jedaz's attitude has changed and the length of the ban. I'm not trying to question the validity of your ruling--Jedaz has provided tools, however freely avaliable, to 3page and has said things which are unmistakable. I thought about it, and it seemed to me that a permanent ban on someone who's made so many positive contributions for such a recent change in attitude is overzealous. Certainly it deserves a lengthy ban, at the very least, as punishment. I don't expect your ruling to be overturned, given the nature of the offences, and I certainly won't contest it any further than this--you have the power to make decisions as you see fit, and I'll stand by that--but that's just where my two cents lies.

On a side note, I hope that this doesn't start us out on the wrong foot. I've lurked for quite a while, and now I've decided to start making minor maintenance edits to do my bit, questioning banning decisions isn't a really good way to start associating with people. Please take no offence by my vote: as I've said, you've been trusted with these powers, and I'll respect your decision. - Peter Moran 07:56, 6 October 2006 (BST)


That has to be, THE most shitty shit fuckinbg thing you could have possibly done. --CaptainM 05:30, 5 October 2006 (BST)

I see I'm not the only person who thinks this. Honorary mem 05:34, 5 October 2006 (BST)
I was reffering to something else, but meh... --CaptainM 06:08, 5 October 2006 (BST)
You think any efforts to stop your WikiTerrorism™ are "shitty". You want to open a dialogue? You could go through the proper channels, but instead you vandalise. Whatever slim chance you and your ilk had of getting a reprieve are long gone now. –Xoid MTFU! 06:27, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Reporting you for zerging? You break the rules, you get punished. Simple. –Xoid MTFU! 06:27, 5 October 2006 (BST)

A request

I do not believe that my being banned was just. I was in no way breaking any rules. I don't want you to take this the wrong way. Would you just be kind enough to strike this from my record?--Duce Nauks 19:27, 2 October 2006 (BST)

Yes, how so was this vandalism? He was writing a comment with malicious intent directly towards us. I made no such comment toward him or his group. Nor did I try to discredit him. I was just cleaning up a page of one made by another user. If anything, wouldn't this count as being a good wiki contributer?--Duce Nauks 19:37, 2 October 2006 (BST)

See but I'm Good at doing it. And I still argue that this was an unjust call. They have no presence in Dakerstown. Them having thier name there is supposed to mean they are in Dakerstown. If they can have thier name there, does that mean I'm allowed to throw my group's name on every single suburb page on the Wiki?--Duce Nauks 21:33, 2 October 2006 (BST)

Well, what say you?--Duce Nauks 21:52, 3 October 2006 (BST)

Please do not avoid my question. If they can have thier name there, does that mean I'm allowed to throw my group's name on every single suburb page on the Wiki?--Duce Nauks 19:59, 4 October 2006 (BST)

Oh Oh let me get this one...Conndrakamod T CFT 20:23, 4 October 2006 (BST)
I've moved this where it belongs.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 21:55, 4 October 2006 (BST)

This trick

You'll all have to be careful of this trick (but I didn't have to tell you that because I'm sure you knew that already), especialy after the fact that there are at 10^(the length of the persons user name) different combinations for each user. Meaning that someone can impersonate you at least 10,000 times. I wonder why they put so much redundancy into unicode, well you get that =P - Jeda?? 13:07, 3 October 2006 (BST)

Ah ok then. Well I know now. I seriously doubt that it's 10,000 per character, I don't think that Unicode would have that kind of redundancy in it, but I've been known to be wrong. I've only been able to find about 10 characters that are exactly the same as the ones commonly used, but then again I haven't been looking too hard for them. But yeah, you are right about there being more combinations for minor glyph differences, but most of them are fairly obvious. Hmm... oh well thats life for you. Hey, I have a question thats been bugging me for a while, if you and BobHammero felt that the "evil text" was so dangerous why didn't either one of you just ask me before if you's could get rid of it? I know why it was an issue and I would have been quite happy for it to go IF people had actually asked me before. The only reason that I was making a fuss about it was because I never was asked if it was ok to be removed from my user space. Stupid, I know. But still it's the principle of the matter. - Jeda?? 13:32, 3 October 2006 (BST)
Hmm... I see your point. Although the actual evil text page wasn't actually what I was thinking about, although the template calling was. I'll explain to you the plan and what I've done to counter it on the scroll wars wiki (and now indirectly the UD wiki). Basicaly as any edits to user pages cannot be counted as vandalism that means that you can do anything you want with them except impersonation according to this policy. Of course that includes the signitures so they cannot be counted as vandalism. In short the page is untouchable by the rules, so what anyone reverting that kind of vandalism would have to do is to revert all of the users comments. It would become a massive burden if the user was able to sign alot of pages. Well thats the theory anyway if you follow the rules. So in short what I've done is made a policy to allow a moderator to change back the users signiture. And now, the General has copied the policy word for word for the UD wiki. I'm not going to deny that I said those things, but you get that. If I was serious about vandalising the wiki I would have done it by now. - Jedaz - 19:44/9/08/2022 13:57, 3 October 2006 (BST)
I understand where you are coming from, but I have a feeling that that attitude is the kind of reason that all of those vandals are going to attack on the 30th. It should be interesting to see how it all goes, who knows what will happen. If they are smart they should be able to do some real dammage, but I pin most of them down as not being able to do anything really effective (found out who they were by looking at the user list on the board). Hmm... I think the SW wiki has slowed me down in my response times even more... oh well you get that. - Jeda?? 14:24, 3 October 2006 (BST)
Yes, you are right. It's the spirit of the rules that counts. But I have a feeling that if mods were able to warn/ban users for antagonising other users then some of the moderation team wouldn't be here today either. Oh well, I honestly don't mind too much how this wiki is run these days. I know that if most of the moderators had a chance they would ban me instantly so I'm going to be good so that doesn't happen. (Mind you though I'm sure that Cyberbob was after my blood at one stage and wouldn't hestiate at all to ban me) - Jeda?? 14:42, 3 October 2006 (BST)

How could you tell I'm not finnish?

I removed the template, And I'm back because NW gets boring after a month or so.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 05:58, 30 September 2006 (BST)

It's a confusing question, and we may never know the answear to it.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 06:12, 30 September 2006 (BST)


*nudge*--Gage 23:53, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Are you the one trying to get personal info, Xoid?

Because if you are. you're barking up the wrong tree. What kind of shit head tries to e stalk people anyway? --Jjames 03:52, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Denton, Texas, University thereof. What of it? –Xoid MTFU! 12:33, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Dude, can you take that down ASAP? It's not in line with the privacy policy. --Toejam 13:14, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Uh, no. It is in line with the privacy policy. I didn't even need to do a DNS lookup to find out where he lived, he posted it on that forum. Easily obtainable by a google search. –Xoid MTFU! 13:19, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Sorry, my mistake, I jumped to the wrong conclusion. I apologise. --Toejam 15:29, 5 October 2006 (BST)
No problem. –Xoid MTFU! 15:43, 5 October 2006 (BST)
What a fucking shit. You are going to e-stalk me now? That is clearly beyond the pale of pathetic. --Jjames 17:10, 5 October 2006 (BST)
Beyond the pale of pathetic? Says the guy who can't stand being Scinfaxi so much that he goes and outdoes Amazing in terms of the sheer number of frivulous M/VB and M/A cases. I mean, Jesus Christ, at least he had a good reason for nearly every second case. About e-stalking you? Have you ever tried using the wiki's search engine? It's like pulling teeth. I tend to use Google to search the wiki and I forgot to add "" to the query. –Xoid MTFU! 02:45, 6 October 2006 (BST)
Then you went to POE and asked for my user info. Then you searched posts for personal info to post here. What a total coward move. I'm suprised it's not against the rules, but I'm not suprised you'd sink so low. --Jjames 07:29, 6 October 2006 (BST)
Asked for your user info? I found it quite interesting when the first thing that came up was something about you making troll accounts, so I pursued that. You were accused of being involved in sockpuppetry at the time, remember? A quick search revealed that you made quite a lot of referrences to Denton, and you also made mention of being in a university. I just connected the dots. Doesn't take rocket science. –Xoid MTFU! 07:35, 6 October 2006 (BST)
You are saying it was another sad sack asking about me at POE? It doesn't matter if you are a stupid stalker, it's still creepy and sad to go look up people's personal info. I didn't post anything here, so you shouldn't have either. It's unethical and sad.Jjames 09:20, 6 October 2006 (BST)
You placed easily obtainable, personal information on the internet. So easy to find that I quite literally stumbled across it. Since it was pertinent to Karlsbad's accusations I brought it here. Then you tried to claim that you did not have a history of sockpuppets, despite everything matching up. So I went back and got proof that you were lying. Simple as that. –Xoid MTFU! 09:49, 6 October 2006 (BST)
Sorry to jump in like this, but what's the big deal Jjames? --Niilomaan GRR!M! 18:28, 6 October 2006 (BST)
I don't have a history of sockpuppets. Bubba is an alt. I was the one who revealed my troll account on POE all the other accusations there are incorrect. The fact that it was easy to find is pointless. I didn't post it here. You are a sad person. Creepy too. --Jjames 08:32, 7 October 2006 (BST)
The troll lawyer strikes again, but wrongo! It's not your actual account ? it's a sockpuppet. Needing to create troll accounts because you don't get enough negative attention as it is? Now that is sad. –Xoid MTFU! 10:31, 7 October 2006 (BST)
So every alt is a sock puppet? Even ones you openly admit to having? You aren't very bright.Jjames 17:11, 7 October 2006 (BST)
Um, yes, that is the idea- a Sockpuppet that you admit to have is just a public sockpuppet: Any account you have doing any speaking- even if it is in character- is a sockpuppet. That's all, carry on. --Karlsbad 18:20, 7 October 2006 (BST)
Eh, still creepy to follow me around. Don't you think? And look at the bright side, I didn't take him to misconduct for it.Jjames 07:21, 8 October 2006 (BST)
Because it's not misconduct, tool. –Xoid MTFU! 10:41, 8 October 2006 (BST)
I don't know... if you used CheckUser to get the IP, then searched for info about him, it might be. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 03:03, 9 October 2006 (BST)
I hate repeating myself. Pertinent replies highlighted. –Xoid MTFU! 13:55, 9 October 2006 (BST)
CNR - my bad. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 01:35, 10 October 2006 (BST)

Why'd you ban me from ASS forums?

I didn't do anything to ASS. --Jjames 22:55, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Maybe it was because you were an ass? --Gage 22:58, 26 September 2006 (BST)
Well if I'm not completely mistaken, ASS is all about taking out stupid/moronic/annoying people. You do the math... --Niilomaan GRR!M! 22:59, 26 September 2006 (BST)
*high fives Niilomaan* --Gage 23:01, 26 September 2006 (BST)
Hilarious. You got kicked from ASS forums and the organization for being dishonest, gage. *spits in your fat face* --Jjames 00:17, 27 September 2006 (BST)
How civil, Jjames- is this a joke playing on the fact on the opinion that you are a douche as well? --Karlsbad 01:28, 27 September 2006 (BST)
How dare you even talk about civilty? You've been acting like a prick towards me for far too long to pull that hypocritical bullshit. If treatment like yours is all my months of civilty earned me, why should I act nice anymore? --Jjames 01:56, 27 September 2006 (BST)
I never broke a promise of civility, and your word is mud. And you not being nice wouldn't change the ammount of cases you opened, would it? --Karlsbad 01:58, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Please post evidence of a promise of civilty.Jjames 03:35, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Niilomaan nailed it. You continue to act like Amazing, fuck that, that's insulting to Amazing. You've hit a new low, and are beneath contempt. Wikigate and the like are prime reasons why ASS targeted him, and you continue to act like you've got a bucketful of sand in your vagina. –Xoid MTFU! 03:31, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Fuck you Xoid. Amazing was a vandal. I've never vandalized anything.Jjames 03:35, 27 September 2006 (BST)
Do you really think I'm gonna swallow that tripe? You're as guilty as sin — posting dozens of frivulous cases because somebody hurt your feelings. People called Amazing a pedophile and worse. He at least had half an excuse to act childish. You do not. –Xoid MTFU! 12:38, 27 September 2006 (BST)

that rifle suggestion

maybe if it was unaffected or less affected by armour it would make a good weapon but I maintain that a shotgun blast to the chest is still gona do a hell of a lot moe than a rifle to the chest. maybe if it was like a 7 damage weapon that is unaffected by flak jackets? Blazefire 10:16, 17 September 2006 (BST)


Who is he? All I can google is a Wikipedia admin. He gets impersonated frequently? I wuold continue the chat on M/VB but, as you can guess by my choice of header, the conversation was becoming pointless. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:24, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Frequently? He has whole pages of accounts like "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CURPS FUCKS KIDDIES IN THE ASS WITH A SOLDERING IRON!" made in his "honour", if you will. Poor bastard. I think the last count was several hundred, or it might be several thousand. –Xoid MTFU! 06:27, 15 September 2006 (BST)
Ha! Too bad, the little I readed on his talk page made me feel that he is a good mod. And I hope you don't mind that I moved your comment to the proper header, because you added it below. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:32, 15 September 2006 (BST)
From what I can see, and what I've read, most of the whiners are idiots who have no idea exactly how much vandalism Wikipedia undergoes. You'd need a bare minimum of 20 or 30 thousand admins scanning the place at any one time to deal with it all if it wasn't for things like Curps' ban-bot. Do a couple of people get burned? Sure. It's a program, it doesn't know any better. It's not like it can be fixed or improved without their feedback, but most of it is usually along the lines of "OMFG U BAND MI!". Imbeciles without any consideration whatsoever. The least people could do is give a modicum of background and diff links so he can find out where the bot screwed up…
About the moving, no, I don't mind. Geeze, I can't believe I added it under "Strange". I must be going senile. –Xoid MTFU! 06:38, 15 September 2006 (BST)


Xoid. Why is it that whenever the Big Bash seiges a tough to break mall the server stops working but still works for it seems the zombies? --Canuhearmenow Hunt! 15:38, 9 September 2006 (BST)

The answer is: that doesn't happen, it stops working for everybody. (If the entire server crashed, that is) or it stops working for everyone but the select few who managed to log in first (when the server is overloaded, but no one else). –Xoid MTFU! 16:15, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Wiki Monkeys and Grilled Cheese

This is more regarding The Arbitration Ruling which I was totally fine with as I slipped up and talked at him without thinking. But then I saw TFH's Vandal Banning Case where he was just warned for altering pages, and breaking arb twice, where I just spoke at him during another arbitration and got banned for one day. I would have posted this under the vandal banning heading, but I didn't wanna get banned again. --The Godfather of ?esensitized, Anime Sucks Talk | CC CPFOAS DO?IS Judge LOE ZHU 12:06, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Question Regarding Peer Rejected Page

Here's one you may have to ask another mod or 2 to answer but I bet I'm not the only person who's wondering about this one. The new policy regarding suggestions clearly states that you have to remove the old suggestion prior to posting the edited version (duh, excellent to point out some stupid people actually would make the new one and forget to remove the old one, getting banned in the process, or forcing someone to remove their older version.. annoying anyways.) BUT... Does this mean you have to remove the "old" version if it's in Peer Rejected? Reason i ask is every now and again I do try some ideas I've tried before after discussing them with users and such, and bring them back a month or 2 later with better rules, wording, or pretty much completely different all together. Normally the "old" version only mattered for "dupes" if they are in peer accepted (waste of time making the same thing again.) But does that "extend" in that you have to get rid of all "old" versions. Sounds anal, but hey there's people a lot more anal than me here so maybe it's a good heads up. Talk with gage as to the intent, maybe.

  • Main thing: are we allowed/required to delete our old suggestions from peer reviewed to comply with the current suggestion change? It will pop up in the future (some dumbass will not think of it, and so forth) and this may save some bitching and moaning.
  • 2nd Thing: Are we allowed to delete our own suggestions from peer reviewed? Reason why... i wouldn't mind deleting the "oldest" versions of the same suggestions, they are a waste of space, and serve no purpouse, the only ones I want there are the best "version". --MrAushvitz 03:32, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Main Thing
Old versions only count for those being voted upon. There's more than enough precedent backing that up, so don't worry about having to get crap removed from Peer Rejected/Reviewed before trying again.
2nd Thing
Unfortunately not. I do think that (if a newer version got a higher percentage of keeps than an older one), the "Notes" field for the older one would say "Hey! There's a better version of me here.". Or at the very least it should
Hope that helps. –Xoid MTFU! 04:32, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Re: Most Odd

BooBoobrian has killed a number of DHPD officers in the past, as well as broadcast anti-DHPD messages over the "Radio" and is thus Persona non-grata in the DMZ, and is also listed as a "shoot if you want to" on our UDTool listing. I don't care what he says he does as a Zerg hunter, until he apologises for past behaivor he can expect more of the same. If I'm not mistaken officers of the DHPD have killed him at least twice in the last week or so, and was also killed by a "civilian" in our area. Its got nothing to do with being on the side of Zergs (whom we also will target if someone Warrants them in the DMZ). --Conndraka mod T CFT 20:17, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Watchful Eye


I'm having to deal with a poser (User:Ken Irons aka the Predators)in West Becktown but I may be too close to the situation to deal with it fairly. Could you keep an eye on me and make sure that one, I dont overstep any boundries, and two that I don't do something stupid like slit my own wrists over this moron. I'd appreciate it. Conndrakamod T CFT 10:41, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Re: Hm?

I'm not sure. I went to reply to your Re: only to discover I had somehow deleted it --Gene Splicer 00:01, 3 September 2006 (BST)


Just so you know, I was about to apologize to him when you and Cyberbob came and made me remember exactly why i did that. Then I decided that he didn't really deserve it. I might think about it again later. --Gold Blade Hunt! 18:58, 2 September 2006 (BST)


If a survivors group has been caught PKing and they admit to it is it ok to add the PKer category to their page? --Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS DORIS Hunt! 23:01, 26 August 2006 (BST)

I was wondering...

Are you this user?--Thari S T F U 20:04, 25 August 2006 (BST)

Jesus Christ! Sassie broke my page!

It's worse than you thought ... i'm a Kiwi!

Dammit! I don't know how to make a wee blue "edit" appear in the top right corner of my stuff, nor how to insert comments in-between said wee blue "edit"s, and I was sufficiently intimidated by the whole Xoid-the-Brusque-Aussie aura that even though this is probably to do with editing the Wiki i still put this in "Pointless Chatter"...

1: Thanks for straightening up my talk page, nice work, i shall endeavour to figure out how you did it.

2: regarding the suggestions policy vote (ABCD on # suggestions and # revisions)

a - the policy itself - yeah, that got me in the end, didn't know how to or if to or when to revise. I kinda liked getting 24hours worth of feedback and then fleeing the scene of the crime.

b - the policy on revising policies - yike, it seems like a tiny handful of people get to have a hell of a lot of influence; on the one hand, if they're the only ones bothering to know the wiki well enough to know the vote is on, then hey, they're the ones to have the say, on the other hand, do we need a "suggestion" that Kevan add a window to the Logout page (?or somewhere?) saying "Oi yous! Go vote on some stuff" (hmm, that might just get us a lot of annoying stuff)

3: One of the biggest challenges facing game designers is "how do we make something that appeals to women?". So far all they've come up with is PacMan, Tetris, and The Sims, and all the other software sells mainly to guys. I got the impression that most of the kill/spam votes were about how this wouldn't add anything to the "kill-'em-all-and-let-God-sort-'em-out" style of play but that was exactly the point! We don't need another gun, there's how many weapons already? How about "keep-'em-all-and-let-Kevan-sort-'em-out"? If he's going to spend days-weeks-months implementing an idea, i can't see a problem with him spending 30 minutes reading a page of ideas, and further to that, the nitpicking about AP costs and point benefits is up to him too, he's the one with the game software! Urban Dead is a MMORPG - we've got the MMO and G, but we could use a little more RP, and it saddens me to see ideas relating to flavour (or "flavor", for any f**king yanks that can't spell) and role playing are getting squashed not for any fault of their own but because the voter doesn't think they'll use it themselves in their next cordite-hazed massacre. That's not to say Sassie doesn't enjoy a good massacre from time to time, but mostly she's the Florence Nightingale type (yeah, pity about the syphilis).

Oooh, this isn't my best work either.. >:O( Sassie 15:25, 24 August 2006 (BST)

Yeah, wankers kill or spam ideas that are flavouristic, but often times flavourtastic and flavouriffic suggestions get killed or spammed because they just plain suck. At the moment there is quite literally a cadre of old timers who will autospam any suggestion that gives the crucifix any meaningful use. I'm part of that.
In response to making games appealing to women, it's not a priority. It never has been, and I'm beginning to doubt it ever will be. Most women won't even touch a computer game, much less give feedback on it. Until that changes, why make the majority male population suffer a product they won't like on the off chance that it might attract some people of the female persuasion to play it? You'd risk alienating the majority for very little gain. In brief? If women want games that appeal to them, they can bloody well start speaking up, fucked if I know what a female wants out of a computer game. I doubt any male does. –Xoid MTFU! 15:38, 24 August 2006 (BST)

Urge to NOT be a nice guy... rising...

Sometimes... just sometimes even my patience is tested. So, some slimebag loser who I shall merely refer to henceforth as Dickwad repeatedly feeds me the taste of buckshot. Fair enough. So after the 4th time I suggested that he take his business elsewhere and offered him a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself with my fireaxe. Lo and behold, come the next day some self righteous avenger type on behalf of resensitized comes and shows me the good news for *unprovoked* PKing. I'm not there yet... but I am EVER so close to putting my revivification needles aside, picking up my shotgun and smile serenely as I gun down ever single one of these slimy weevils who so much as look at me wrong in the future. Then, I will sodomise them repeatedly with hardback copies of the 'Fair Tactics' handbook (soon to be released) until they can regurgitate the chapter on 'how not to ruin the game for McBlackjack, you stupid motherfucker'. Oh, and apologies all 'round for any offence caused. --McBlackjack 16:10, 23 August 2006 (BST)

J4m3z's edit

Is there a reason that you left it on your user page, or did you just miss it? It has been there for some time now... --Niilomaan GRR! 16:41, 16 August 2006 (BST)


Thanks for taking over and handling this gigantic piece of crap that I left some of y'all. --Squashua 20:25, 15 August 2006 (BST)


Hey there. I just wanted to come by and let you know that the DEM is forming a response to what you posted in Section 13 and we should have something up there in response soon. --Kristi of the Dead 09:55, 12 August 2006 (BST)


You're it! Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 03:41, 9 August 2006 (BST)


Have you got a list of BME members? I'm trying to PK them, but the cowards are... you know... cowards.--Thari T/C/TJ! 16:22, 8 August 2006 (BST)

Contact me via MSN, YIM or AIM. I'll put my other two IDs up on my user page in a moment. –Xoid MTFU! 16:23, 8 August 2006 (BST)
This is what Team Batman's Commissioner Gordon and I found on the subject a while back. User:Drake_Darringer#BME_Members:_Confirmed.2C_Suspected.2C_and_Sympathizers-That's Why I did your Wife 05:04, 9 August 2006 (BST)

AIM Without Infestation

You can use GAIM or Trillian and just sign for a AIM account. --Technerd CFT 05:30, 8 August 2006 (BST)

I already had Trillian. It was just me taking a dig at anything AOHELL related. (Even then, I feel postively icky having signed up for one.) –Xoid MTFU! 05:35, 8 August 2006 (BST)


Thanks for the 'unofficial' warning, had already had the error pointed out and apologised but it was definitly my (unintentional) bad.--Honestmistake 19:51, 7 August 2006 (BST)

Your turn

You're now on the CFT Assembly. Have fun. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:17, 6 August 2006 (BST)

Levels update

Hi! I'm sorry for answering so late to your help offer. I would appreciate if you would do it. Our levels, as our profiles, are not something secret. I'm also sorry for what Francis said to you. I've told him not to do it again. It doesn't matter from what group you are, as long as you want to help others. Thanks! --Abi79 AB 14:20, 4 August 2006 (BST)


Just to tell you, I DO care what this guy is doing. That's why I knew about 3pwv on the Scroll Wars Wiki... and to tell you the truth, his latest evil plan is freaking twisted: look here, he even has a special prize for the people that does that on OUR Wiki! I don't know if the rules against ads apply on this one, but... just make your own conclussions. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 07:21, 2 August 2006 (BST)

Yeah, it is twisted. Getting rewarded for it is disgraceful. There is nothing wrong with saying you do/don't like Scrollwars, but the reward is untennable. –Xoid MTFU! 07:33, 2 August 2006 (BST)
WTF? Is Urban Dead wiki the only gaming wiki able to exist? It's not like Scroll Wars is trying to get people to STOP playing UD. Quite the contrary. There are no negative connotaions in this. I have a zombie ring in the game and it helps identify other people who play UD, adding a bond during gameplay. It's not like the Cobert Report telling viewers to vandalize Wikipedia last weekend. It just shows 'Hey, I play Urban Dead and I play Scroll Wars.' No more, no less. --Zod Rhombus 20:32, 2 August 2006 (BST)
No, it would instead be like if The Colbert Report sent special prizes to everyone who inserted ads for the show on the Wikipedia. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 21:14, 2 August 2006 (BST)
Oh great... If there's one thing I HATE HATE HATE in web it's ads. So we are just gonne pretend it's not happening or..? --Niilomaan 22:16, 2 August 2006 (BST)
Man, you guys need another wiki protagonist. Amazing is gone and you still can't give up your love affair with him. --Zod Rhombus 22:50, 2 August 2006 (BST)
Looks like you got your wordies a little mixed up. You're thinking of "antagonist," not "protagonist," Amazod. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 22:53, 2 August 2006 (BST)
(Insert snide remark here) Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 22:59, 2 August 2006 (BST)
Noooo, I think you guys are 'antagonizing' enough. --Zod Rhombus 23:39, 2 August 2006 (BST)
LAWL YOU HAS PUNNED --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 23:54, 2 August 2006 (BST)
I luv Amazod. He is funay!!1 –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 00:02, 3 August 2006 (BST)
You think Xoid is going to get mad when he sees all the messages on his talk page? Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 00:15, 3 August 2006 (BST)
Haha. Yes! Especially this one! Because thats all its here for!-That's Why I did your Wife 00:19, 3 August 2006 (BST)


Leave you messages here... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 12:22, 1 August 2006 (BST)

Like this. I can keep this up as looong as it takes. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 12:35, 1 August 2006 (BST)

Have you thought about it? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:17, 2 August 2006 (BST)

Perhaps this can be worked out. Perhaps not. Know that I'm on a short tether, and my patientience has long since worn thin. –Xoid MTFU! 08:18, 2 August 2006 (BST)
I can see that. Leave a message on my talk page when you're ready to talk. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! B! 08:20, 2 August 2006 (BST)

So political now

Better to be sure not to hurt anybody's feelings.. Right? I know that you avoid all wiki drama that you can, but c'mon... --Niilomaan 12:20, 1 August 2006 (BST)

What is this about? –Xoid MTFU! 12:31, 1 August 2006 (BST)
Pretty much about removing the template and not voting about deleting it. I have rarely seen you taking part in any "touchy" subjects. --Niilomaan 12:34, 1 August 2006 (BST)
I'll flame people when I can be bothered to and not a moment before. –Xoid MTFU! 12:48, 1 August 2006 (BST)

New template

Hi, I just made this template. Thought you might be interested since you're the highest ranked user page! You can use it to gloat :P Jonny12 W! 20:33, 31 July 2006 (BST)

Hehe, no problem! Jonny12 W! 20:46, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Erm...I don't know - I don't know how to make them so I just copied another and changed everything to what I wanted. So, the colours and alignment and everything will just be the same as what I copied it from (which I think was Project Welcome... :S). About changing the parameters: yeah, whatever, that's ok! Jonny12 W! 12:19, 1 August 2006 (BST)

Template design

I need your help, how exactly do you upload a picture unto the wiki? give me step by step instructions please. Also, how do you change or alter pictures you find? please send response to my mainpage. Thanks!--Canuhearmenow 17:56, 31 July 2006 (BST)

Danger Levels

I'm not sure who you think you were addressing Xoid, but I found your tone in your response to me in Kiki's talk page inappropriate, not to mention completely wrong.

1) I never claimed 500+ people use DEMON (though 90+% of the DEM uses FireFox), but that our officers have access to the reports of 500-ish active charters. This is through DEMON, SitReps on our forum area and scouting reports on our Partners forums. Since I personally have high level clearances in the CDF, Paradox, STARS etc etc etc I myself actually could claim access to reports from probably closer to 750+ active characters.

2) "Regardless, it's utterly irrelevant if the hypothetical 500 people are in suburbs other than those you are claiming to have accurate intel on." ... WTF? What I was saying was, if we have daily reports on a suburb from 10+ people and decide to change the danger level of a suburb based on that live intel and within the published definitions, how does Sonny, or anyone else not present, have a right to change it to something completely inaccurate? I'm sorry I didn't make the my point in the transition between those two adjecent sentances clearer.

3) As for DEMONs confidentiality, I had hoped that the MFDs officers could be taken at their word. Given our long history in this game and on the wiki of civility and striving for fair play, I thought we would get the benefit of the doubt. But apparently that is reserved for the likes of Sonny. Maybe I should instruct my people to spend more time messing with the wiki and being rude to people to get equal consideration? ... Regardless, I had already authorized that access be provided to the ally version of our threat map to one or two mods not already involved in this discussion as independent collaboration. However as Sonny has withdrawn, at least for the moment, it appears the issue is settled.

--Gilant talk|DEM 15:43, 31 July 2006 (BST)

I know damn well whom I was addressing. Don't think for a second that I forgot who you are. I don't like you. You should know that. If you won't take my word when I say I play fair and am not lying, then I don't see how you can possibly expect me to give yours any more weight. Don't like it? Tough. The DEM, and you in particular lost my respect and my trust over that and will never get it back.
As for DEMON's confidentiality, perhaps you should instruct your officers to be more careful. More than once I've seen one of them let "DEMON" slip. More than once I've seen a screenshot inaccurately censored. If you can't keep your own secrets, then I see no reason to pussyfoot around and leave someone out of the loop over your faux "confidentiality".
Xoid MTFU! 16:03, 31 July 2006 (BST)


Hey, I was wondering if I was allowed to edit buildings for the sake of a group. A friend and I are making a group and I was going to edit a certain building for our cause.