User talk:ZombieJuice
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RE: Joining WDC
Thanks for your support.
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--Pvt De 02:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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I knew you would not like it, sigh... I won't get into an edit war with you or anything over it. But here is my understanding of the news section... it is for News and major developments. Now the status of TRPs is major, IMO, so is reporting on, say, the destruction or reclaimation of a whole section of the suburb or the presence or significant actions of a group, zombies or survivors. But posting a detailed list of building statuses like you did I do not consider appropriate. You are essentially providing TACTICAL information to facilitate group organisation, whether it helps zombies or survivors is irrelevent, tactical information is best left to other places... like forums or group pages. Now I admit this is a grey area, and perhaps I am wrong... Which is why I will not re-revert any edits you make. But perhaps the opinion of a sysop might be in order for this? --WanYao 06:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- WanYao is correct, the pages are not for group coordination, but for actual news. If shit hits the fan, say so, but do so as succinctly as possible. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 10:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- I understand that you are not technically posting group coordination information, but the effect is functionally identical to doing so. Which is why I deleted it. I mean, the Big Bash does exactly what you did -- but they do it on their forums, not in the News. Hope this all makes sense. Thanks. --WanYao 10:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- I understand how you feel when stuff your is deleted. It has happened to me, as well. In similar circumstances. But in regards to: "Never delete someone else's edits, comments, responses, etc. off of community pages"... there are exceptions, as I learned. Among them are spam, and NPOV News articles -- which can and should be deleted immediately upon sight. Another example is lists of PKers... Even if a major PK event takes place. Something like the Dia de los Muertos murders, or one group targetting and killing a large number of peopel throughout the suburn. You can't use the News to list the names of the PKers, though you can mention the event and link more detailed information, say an Iwitness or to a group page or forum. Anyway... I considered the "detailed tactical reports" to be NPOV News entries, and so I deleted them... And I did explain my reasoning in my comment to the edit... Honestly, I applaud your efforts to improve tactical communications, especially among survivors -- it is much needed IMO for survivors to oranise better. It's just that the news is not the place to for the details of that organisation to take place. --WanYao 22:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- The wiki's rules and regulations can seem pretty byzantine... But honestly once you get experience and start to see WHY they are in place, they begin to make sense... And nne of this was personal... Cheers! WanYao 14:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I understand how you feel when stuff your is deleted. It has happened to me, as well. In similar circumstances. But in regards to: "Never delete someone else's edits, comments, responses, etc. off of community pages"... there are exceptions, as I learned. Among them are spam, and NPOV News articles -- which can and should be deleted immediately upon sight. Another example is lists of PKers... Even if a major PK event takes place. Something like the Dia de los Muertos murders, or one group targetting and killing a large number of peopel throughout the suburn. You can't use the News to list the names of the PKers, though you can mention the event and link more detailed information, say an Iwitness or to a group page or forum. Anyway... I considered the "detailed tactical reports" to be NPOV News entries, and so I deleted them... And I did explain my reasoning in my comment to the edit... Honestly, I applaud your efforts to improve tactical communications, especially among survivors -- it is much needed IMO for survivors to oranise better. It's just that the news is not the place to for the details of that organisation to take place. --WanYao 22:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- I understand that you are not technically posting group coordination information, but the effect is functionally identical to doing so. Which is why I deleted it. I mean, the Big Bash does exactly what you did -- but they do it on their forums, not in the News. Hope this all makes sense. Thanks. --WanYao 10:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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