User talk:Zombiegeorge

Allow me to return fire

As to your objection to your placement on our database, I apologize if you take offense, but I would like to justify why you are there. It is not because you infect people in the RP; this is a standard griefer tactic and I have come to expect it: particularly of you and ZombieCharlie. Nor have you been placed here for singling out my group. I expect that local zombies hate us and I admit you have good reason. Not only are we “filthy harmanz,” we are “filthy combat revivers” and you are one of the many in that area who lacks the commitment to your cause to succumb to brainrot.

For clarification, you are not mentioned as a PKer on this list, you are mentioned as an associate of PKers. I recognize and respect that, though you have had the opportunity to PK me and my group on many occasions, you have not: instead reverting to zombie form and biting us as science intended. Nor do I suggest a connection between the FU and the Heathers as I am well aware that the FU is a loosely organized bunch of free-thinking zombahz. I suggest that there is a connection between CERTAIN MEMBERS of the FU (of which I believe you are one) and the Heathers.

Now to the reason you are on this list. On several occasions you were observed strike buildings in Whittenside as part of coordinated attacks with Heather Manslaves. You were present in almost all of these attacks and often one of the first through the door. The timing and frequency of these attacks suggests that the probability of coincidental cooperation is very low. You in specific were singled out for an incident in the Allsop building a few months ago when we had sealed ourselves inside. With the barricades set at EHB and no freerunning path, the building was altogether inaccessible. You were in human form at the time, and through a fortuitous screen refresh by one of our members, we were able to observe you reduce the barricades to VSB and come inside. You left immediately, reducing the barricades no further in an attempt to let in zombies, and a heather Manslave arrived within 5 minutes to kill us. Others followed shortly thereafter to finish the job. Though I had suspected a connection, this clenched the argument and you were added to this list.

If you are unaware of this connection, I apologize for bringing it to your attention in this way. It is possible that some other person with whom you share information is in direct contact with the Heathers. It is also possible that you are in contact with them, and it is further possible that you have a Heather ALT. I make no assumptions in this regard because in effect, it does not matter. The fact remains that, for whatever reason, it seems that they know what you know. You are therefore connected.

As to our “spamming of the wiki” I further admit that this may be irksome. Upon request, I have taken things down in all sections of the wiki with the exception of Colglough. I would like to stress though that the additions that have our name on them are few compared to the edits that do not. In our time in Whittenside, we have attempted to add flavor to the community through such additions. They have included information geared towards Ferals, organized zombies, military survivors, scientists, and others. We have even made some edits to benefit PKers. The vast majority of these, including the bit on the fort that Spiderzed and I wrote, do not in any way reference me or my group. I will not take down material in Colglough unless an admin requests it because colglough is a scientific facility, we are scientists, we wish to use it, and no previous or subsequent attempt has been made on the wiki to dedicate it to any other purpose. Had there been such when I arrived while Whittenside was a ghost town, I would have moved into another building.

Rest assured, I do take your actions personally because they are personal, but I understand them and bear you only a little malice for them. I hope that you will extend me the same courtesy when I next combat revive you and dump you to the street. In the interim, please tell Priapus that this “filthy Harman” sends his regards: I do not doubt but that at some point he may find himself on this list.

Yours in science,

-- Albert Schwan  22:00, 16 July 2010 (BST)

Re-retort

you are one of the many in that area who lacks the commitment to your cause to succumb to brainrot.

--Brain rot is not a commitment, but a lifestyle choice. I choose to play a more flexible game that includes parachuting and vandalism as the mood strikes me. That is my choice. It's not yours to decide what is or isn't barhah for me.

I suggest that there is a connection between CERTAIN MEMBERS of the FU (of which I believe you are one) and the Heathers.

--I am very much a member of FU. There may be a connection(s) between Heathers and FU. Some of use play harman alts. I know of a few that even play dedicated survivor alts, which I think is a little perverse, but that's just me.

Now to the reason you are on this list. On several occasions you were observed strike buildings in Whittenside as part of coordinated attacks with Heather Manslaves. You were present in almost all of these attacks and often one of the first through the door.

--Yer high, Muriel. I have NEVER coordinated any FU attack with any harmans -- ever. Yeah, I am usually the one the first in the door. In any attacks I organize, I usually take out the barricades and step in to infect or meat-shield for other zombies. If the Heathers entered the building during an FU dinner party, we'd have eaten them too.

You in specific were singled out for an incident in the Allsop building a few months ago when we had sealed ourselves inside. With the barricades set at EHB and no freerunning path, the building was altogether inaccessible. You were in human form at the time, and through a fortuitous screen refresh by one of our members, we were able to observe you reduce the barricades to VSB and come inside. You left immediately, reducing the barricades no further in an attempt to let in zombies, and a heather Manslave arrived within 5 minutes to kill us. Others followed shortly thereafter to finish the job. Though I had suspected a connection, this clenched the argument and you were added to this list.

--That's pretty funny. I have no recollection of that, but I might have done that out of curiosity to see who was hiding in there. Yeah, I would have left if I was short of AP and was unable to do anything more with the barricades. I certainly wouldn't have hit you with the ax -- that wouldn't be very sporting. I may left to jump off a building or vandalize some buildings. I like spray paint.

If you are unaware of this connection, I apologize for bringing it to your attention in this way. It is possible that some other person with whom you share information is in direct contact with the Heathers.

--That point is very easy to explain, Albert (if I may call you Albert). There is a fair chance that, in that instance, I would have posted your whereabouts on our forum -- which is publicly accessible -- so others might come and eat you. I know that The Fortress and other harman groups come by our forums to see what we are up to, so I see no reason why Heathers would be any different in that regard. That might explain why you would see Heathers show up after an Feral picnic. You and any other survivors would be listed in the post. :shrugs:

As to our “spamming of the wiki” I further admit that this may be irksome.

--Indeed. It certainly got my attention. Priapus nearly blew a gasket. Never the less, we have a very long history with Whittensdie and consider it our little club house and will resist any attempts by harmanz to come and clean up the place. We like nice it and trashed.

--Please take me off your Heathers/PKer list. I do not help them and I take your slanderous suggestion that I'd help or work for harmanz as being tantamount to calling me a traitor and a collaborator. You are food. One does not befriend food.

-ZG Zombiegeorge 02:54, 17 July 2010 (BST)

The correction will be made

George (I hope I may call you this as we are now on familiar terms),

I appreciate the response that you have given and find it admirable that you did so in an organized and logical way. I ascribe to the belief that conversation is more fruitful than pent up rage; your willingness to converse in this matter has resulted in the removal of your name from my list. Reviewing my evidence you must, however, admit that it was fairly damning; not so damning as that which we have obtained on Father Guido Sarducci, but damning. Incidentally, this was during what I can only assume was a death-culting phase for you, as I was able to observe by my contacts list that you stayed alive for quite some time after we combat revived you (I must admit I found this curious).

Upon reviewing your explanation of events and experiencing your single-minded hatred for harmanz (the Yer High Muriel comment aside) , I am satisfied that it is quite possible that the Heathers were piggybacking your attacks even though they arranged to strike first, killing many before you entered the building. As a proud zombie, I should think this fact (combined with the crass graffiti all over the suburb and the large number of bounty hunters they have brought to the area) would trouble you, but as you say, who am I to decide what is or isn't barhah for you. I suppose you must ask yourself, is your barhah about Bra!nz or Baragaz? Yet I digress; we were discussing the database not the suburb.

I will replace the entry with a note to the effect that any member of the FU active in meta-game communication may be considered a de facto link to the Heathers as the link between the two groups is very strong. Though this statement may still gall you, you must agree that it is correct. Your members work with their members (or their members work with your members if you prefer). They have historically singled out groups that have become troublesome to members of the FU (in fact I strongly suspect my disagreement with Priapus may be the reason they came). You (by which I mean segments of your group not you specifically) share membership, collaborate with, or at the very least have been infiltrated by them. Finally, at least one of your members (Sarducci) appears to actually be working FOR them. In all respects, I think you can see that the use of the term “a strong connection” is warented.

I will not hold this connection against you (by which I mean you personally) in future though I do believe that the fact that there is such a connection to your group is an ethical failing within the group as a whole. I realize that the loose structure makes it an unfortunately unavoidable evil and I have a few friends among the ferals myself (by which I mean actual friends not ALTs; I would not presume to intrude into your forum) but you must realize that association with a Pking, Zerging, wiki-trolling, forum-spying, Griefing group like the heathers weakens you integrity as group and I and many others will view you less respect because of it.

On a final note, I wish to address a point that you made in your original post about our presence in Colglough over the last 6 months. I appreciate that this was a jab but in the interest of fact checking, I thought you might be interested in a not-so -brief timeline that serves also to address the fact that, while your enmity is understood, your vilification of me is misguided. When first I moved to Whittenside and took up residence in Colglough in early January, I tried several times to establish good relations with the Ferals. I learned your language (something even many of you have not done), respected your boundaries, and even offered to cohabitate with you in Colglough. Had any of you asked me to move on I would have done so, though I realized this was not likely as most of you are working with a limited definition of zombie/human interaction and hordes do not ask. Many of the local zombies made light of my offer as they did not see what they stood to gain from friendly relations. Still, a few FU members took me up on this and visited frequently between the beginning of January and the end of March while I was constantly in residence. Before it fell in the spring Picnic, I had transformed Colglough into a center for communication and creativity and the home of my group. When we returned in April to retake Colglough, the more vocal members of the horde demanded respect while offering us none in return. While some of these zombies valued the struggle and the interaction, others (many others) just wanted to “win”: griefing survivors into leaving the suburb and salting the earth so that none would return. With little other option, we acquiesced to some of these demands for a time but the experience changed me. To this point, I had been Pro-Colglough but these actions by members of the FU caused me to become Pro-Survivor. I turned my attention to other survivor groups and began to see a survivor occupied Fort Perryn was essential to the balanced functionality of Whittenside. Towards this end, we helped survivor groups retake the fort and we retook Colglough, holding it from mid April into May, at which time we have reason to suspect, members of your group, frustrated by our actions, summoned the Heathers. In the time since, we have occupied Colglough for only days at a time and my pro-survivor stance has been cemented.

In whole, while you would be correct had you stated that you had been more at Colglough than I for the last two months, when speaking of the last six or seven, I have been more often in Colglough than out of it. A petty point I admit but one I felt I needed to make. I am glad we had this chance to talk and will set about correcting the database immediately. Until next we meet.

Yours in science,

-- Albert Schwan  05:18, 17 July 2010 (BST)

Re-re-retort

I will not hold this connection against you

-- Then please remove my name from that page altogether.

Gragh!

-ZG Zombiegeorge 07:41, 17 July 2010 (BST)

After dinner torte

My apologies, I did not realize you were on here twice. I have corrected the issue. As forewarning, I may be adding you to this database in another capacity. You have been the death of more of our generators than anyone else in Whittenside. This counts as irrational violence and is within the purview of this database. Should that happen, you will be in a different section of the database and free from untoward association with “filthy harmanz”.

Yours in science,

-- Albert Schwan  21:21, 17 July 2010 (BST)

Retort Reform

Are you suggesting that I am a notorious GKer? If so, it's a fair cop.

Gragh!

-ZG Zombiegeorge 22:48, 17 July 2010 (BST)

User:Misanthropy/The Barhah

The deadline for the contest has ended, you are now invited to choose your favourite entry and help determine the winner. 01:14, 26 July 2010 (BST)

You are yet to vote, so I'm bumping you.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:49, 27 July 2010 (BST)

Good to see you again.

You have likely noticed, but I wanted to let you know that we are back in Whittenside. Since the Heathers wish to keep me dead and I can do little to prevent that, I have decided to use the opportunity to work out some of the elements I wish to include in my life-Culting guide. My goal is to prove that there is much more to it than spying and pointless ZKing. You will therefore no doubt see me wandering around and clawing at your group members. I write primarily to indicate that this is not meant in a vindictive or mean-spirited manner but rather to advance a scientific objective. I speak only for myself with this as my group is an autonomous collective and will, as usual, make their own decisions on matters of personal strategy. May I also mention that it is good to be back. I have grown quite fond of your little suburd and would have returned sooner had we not been needed elsewhere. It does pain me somewhat though to see that you have let the Heathers tag every square inch of it. However, I understand that zombified hands are not well equipped to hold a spray can. When living, I will do what I can to rectify this matter as a public service.

Yours in science,

-- Albert Schwan  23:35, 10 September 2010 (BST)

P.S. I have already congratulated Priapus on his Colglough edit and made some suggestions. It has, however, been brought to my attention by one of your own that you designed the graphic. If this is true, then I would complement you as well on the design and encourage you to continue to add flavor to the suburb. Also, should you post any portion of this to your forum, please give my love to the Heathers: I mean this ironically of course.

Going native, eh?

So, your planning on living the dead life? It's alluring, no doubt, sleeping under the stars, never worrying about finding a dingy hellhole to hide in, no having the tolerate a bunch of neo-fascist jack-offs who are pretending to be paramilitary tough guys, and best of all, you get to finger paint with blood of your enemies. Though probably best part for you would be that the Heathers won't be able to really grief you all that much. You're already dead.

Give up breathing, Albert! Forsake humanity! Join us!

Should you decide to take up the needle and return to a state of being food, feel free to drop by Colglough. I'll be there waiting. I'll have something for you and it won't be your father's lightsaber.

Lastly, if you have something to say to the Heathers, you should probably post it on their talk page. I doubt that they'd read mine, but you never know (shrugs).

My comment on the Heathers was not meant to offend; I was referring to the FU forum not your talk page. I think we both know by now that they read it more regularly than their own discussion page. Either way, it was meant facetiously.

I appreciate your invitation but I fear I cannot forsake breathing altogether. I have a zombie ALT in another suburb and, on the whole, find zombie life devoid of much of the complexity that makes Malton so interesting. That, and there are fascists on either side of the not so eternal divide. I will be working trans-mortally but still against you for the most part. After all, what discoveries can be made by following the path of least resistance? I have noticed you have taken up residence in Colglough once more and I will certainly drop by whenever I am infected or in need of the same. At the moment, my objectives are better met be remaining free from infection. Should I stop by, I will be sure to remember that all Colglough rendezvous are to be considered BYOPL (bring your own patrilineal lightsaber)

-- Albert Schwan  22:40, 13 September 2010 (BST)

Happy Thanksgiving

I left something for you and you people in Colglough. Happy Thanksgiving. Make of it what you will.

-- Albert Schwan  00:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

You are cluttering up your house.

Your latest "current event" at Colglough was not an event: it was a comment and a question directed at me. To mix a metaphor, while I understand your desire to build a statue in your own image on every level surface you find, you may wish to avoid airing your dirty laundry on something that was never designed to be a clothesline. Talk pages are the place for comments like that. Incidentally, we (my group and I) have spent a considerable amount of time in Whittenside over the last year. If you will recall I even dropped by to give you a zombie version of Turducken on Thanksgiving. Check scans and building logs if you like but we remain periodically active in Whittenside. Enough so to justify our group logo appearing there.

-- Albert Schwan  22:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Whittentrek 2: The Wrath of Schwan

Well George, it has been fun but I think I will be leaving the Whittenside area for a brief time. I must say, your crew did an admirable job of keeping those buildings ruined. I thought about repairing them one more time but decided on something else instead. It is a small gesture but I am happy with it. I will remain long enough to say goodbye.

-- Albert Schwan  05:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)