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Once the biggest ever group of murderers in this game, I had a ''lot'' of fun with these guys when we were shooting people <s>and each other</s> (I genuinely didn't expect to get shot by my own team quite so much, but it always made me laugh). Probably our most impressive stuff was when 10-30 of us would show up at once and kill everyone we could see, but my particularly favourite bits were the stupid things we did, like our Tea Party in the Blackmore Building. We combat revived the RRF holding the place, barricaded it up and then, when people started turning up proclaiming it was back in survivor hands, we shot them too. Hurray!
Once the biggest ever group of murderers in this game, I had a ''lot'' of fun with these guys when we were shooting people <s>and each other</s> (I genuinely didn't expect to get shot by my own team quite so much, but it always made me laugh). Probably our most impressive stuff was when 10-30 of us would show up at once and kill everyone we could see, but my particularly favourite bits were the stupid things we did, like our Tea Party in the Blackmore Building. We combat revived the RRF holding the place, barricaded it up and then, when people started turning up proclaiming it was back in survivor hands, we shot them too. Hurray!



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The nomination of any group that succeedes voting of historical status should be moved from Category talk:Historical Groups to here.

Red Rum

Once the biggest ever group of murderers in this game, I had a lot of fun with these guys when we were shooting people and each other (I genuinely didn't expect to get shot by my own team quite so much, but it always made me laugh). Probably our most impressive stuff was when 10-30 of us would show up at once and kill everyone we could see, but my particularly favourite bits were the stupid things we did, like our Tea Party in the Blackmore Building. We combat revived the RRF holding the place, barricaded it up and then, when people started turning up proclaiming it was back in survivor hands, we shot them too. Hurray!

Here's some of the stuff we did below, but there was also a lot of cool stuff with other groups, whether we helped organise it (like the St. Valentine's Cherubs) or just turned up to have some fun (too many PKA events to list!). Thanks for all the good times! --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:18, 6 April 2012 (BST)

Cool Events: Tommy Gun | Creedystock | The Great Military Biscuit War | Battle Royale | Siege of Jerusalem | Dia De Los Muertos | Red Ranch | Hunting Season | Big Red Vasectomy Tour

Spinoff Stuff: Flat Earth Society | ¯\(°_o)/¯ | The Daily Ruminations | PANCAKE | Scour the Earth |
Lord Curton's Gentlemen's Hunting Club

Yes

  1. Y'arrr - cheers to Beardo, Strata, DevilAsh, Revenant, Dancing Banana, Suburban Ed, GioV, Cypher, Goribus, Amber, Vis, binlaggin, Vandr, phozil, dipcup, shad, Genie, bluefish, turk and no doubt a whole load more people I've forgotten for all the awesome times! :D --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:24, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  2. While their impact on the game as a whole may be perhaps up for discussion, they seemed to be a successful PK group back in the day. Well known by the public at large, while maintaining a style of their own that set them apart from the pack. Decent enough, so a yes. -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:47, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  3. my first Pker group. ah the wanderers. this makes me sad.--User:Sexualharrison13:53, 6 April 2012
  4. Absolutely. I thank all of the guys that contributed (you know who you are) and disagree inherently with Thad, but don't want to poke too much fun out of him in case he bans me again. Much love to everyone, I have really enjoyed rolling with the biggest PKing group in UD for the past seven or eight (good lord, that long?) years. --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 14:09, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  5. makeitsomakeitsomakeitso Nothing to be done! 14:11, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  6. What the hell? I go inactive for a few months and you guys go dead? Not cool. But your group was cool. And DEFINITELY historical. Aichon 14:52, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  7. :( Karl forgot me--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 16:22, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  8. Red Rum was for a very long time the very biggest PKer group - and that continuously, while most PKer groups tend to fade away as fast as they rise. If you even consider to vote "no", your perception is seriously weird. -- Spiderzed 16:29, 6 April 2012 (BST)
    :D --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:05, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  9. $50 says Skynet shows up to vote no on this. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:45, 6 April 2012 (BST)
    It seems you're still as active as ever.. A bit plan hindering on my hunt for a certain imposter masquarading around as me, but you can make it up to me if you leave this Death Cultist here with an infection next time. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 07:25, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  10. YES! Asheets 16:59, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  11. Piling in. These guys were before my time, but it's obvious they made a major contribution to the art of PKing. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ talk 20:00, 6 April 2012 (BST)
  12. --RadicalWhig 03:18, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  13. Assuming that this is not another of their 'pranks', they should be passed into history without question. One of the game's defining groups. --Papa Moloch 04:01, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  14. Uhm, yeah. Even if they are still active I think that predating this one then adding it when they're gone is appropriate. There's only about 4 or 5 groups I'd say that for too. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 11:41, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  15. --Mallrat The Spanish Inquisition TSI The Kilt Store TKS Clubbed to Death CTD 11:43, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  16. This pack of lunatics unleashed a species of tongue-in-cheek madness that endlessly delighted everyone with a sense of humor and an appreciation for fine wine, and endlessly pissed off everyone who took the game too seriously. They are one of the few reasons this category exists. Bravo, Karl and company. Come visit me, or I shall cry. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 18:20, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  17. The single most infamous PKer group in all of Malton. I don't care who you are or how new you are to the meta-game, you have heard of Red Rum. And most of you at some point have either joined us or been shot by us. Oh and Axe, I've been false flagging for awhile. I'm in Ed's Peasant Militia, I just didn't want to spoil the surprise for you lot. I've also been tagging up as 'Wanderer' for revives. I told the Militia I wasn't going to tag up until Red Rum it was put up for Historical. Go ahead and check my profile again. -- Goribus 19:19, 7 April 2012 (BST)
  18. Helped set the gold standard of murderous malefactors. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 7 April 2012
  19. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:32, 8 April 2012 (BST)
  20. Really goes without saying. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 04:49, 9 April 2012 (BST)
  21. Aww, it's a shame Red Rum is disbanding. Thanks Karl and the gang for all the laughs. -- --Kooks 10:56, 9 April 2012 (BST)
  22. They'll be back. Maybe not as Red Rum but still. No one quits UD for good. Everyone returns :P        16:31, 9 April 2012 (BST)
  23. Yes, yes and yes again. Red Rum was always fun to hunt and it was always a pleasure to be killed by them. Sorry to see you disband. --Raven Corvus 19:56, 9 April 2012 (BST)
  24. Most notable PK group i've run into.--~ MDD Logo.png Zach016 D.H.H.S. 17:45, 10 April 2012 (BST)
  25. We're going to miss you guys. As everyone above. --Private Mark 04:15, 11 April 2012 (BST)
  26. Allah's work is done, thank you for the faithful jihad, Yes allahahalalala --Binlaggin 09:13, 13 April 2012 (BST)
  27. Of course - Without a doubt, this group should be inducted into historical groups. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 20:57, 13 April 2012 (BST)
    Nay - Criteria states: "1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game." I assume you guys are still together in game? Do you still want to edit the Red Rum page? If so, then you'll have to wait to get included as a Historical Group. Recall that The Dead had to make a new page, rather than reopen the old one. Now, if Red Rum basically says: "Yeah, we're done." Then I will be willing to change my vote. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:03, 6 April 2012 (BST)
    Nah, we're done. We had a vote on it on the forums and everything. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:14, 7 April 2012 (BST)
    How long ago was it? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:10, 7 April 2012 (BST)
    The thread to wind up Red Rum started in December 2011 - it's definitely not a snap decision! --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 10:35, 7 April 2012 (BST)
    Yep, Red Rum has been planning this since December. The official announcement was on April 1st actually. Which everyone seems to have taken as a prank. Justasplanned.png -- Goribus 19:08, 7 April 2012 (BST)
    Sorry to hear that. You guys were great. It'll be sad to see you go. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 20:57, 13 April 2012 (BST)
  28. Who? Never heard of… all, right, yes, the jig is up. Red Rum brought a whole new side of the game to life for me, probably the side that'll live with me the longest. We had some wacky antics, never took things too seriously, and had policies that had me in stitches (like the friendly fire policy which drove Grim s to distraction with our mathematical proof.) I'm particularly proud of killing my way through most of the leadership, including managing to stalk our illustrious founder Zaruthustra over the course of a week, and of keeping the group going for a while there when I accidentally fell into a leadership position, a fact that I am also proud of concealing for as long as possible, to the point where after I'd handed over the reigns there were still people who didn't know I was in the group. While we're here, let's give it up for Blue Bourbon, Green Gin, Amber Ale, Alliterative Alcoholics, Ryker & Emil: Demolishing Unsafe Masonry, Red Elves Delivering Roses Under Moonlight, Friends of the Featherstone Library and all the other wonderful cover groups that had us shooting anyone wearing "Red Rum" tags as "clear impostors".

    I'll miss this group, but really, after infiltrating every other group in the game, what other goals did we have left?

    I suppose we could do a big reveal of all our lifetime members, just to see who's shocked?… no mention of the group is complete without Sirens Discord, a very polarising figure for anyone who knew him/her, and who kept the forums going for the group for years after leaving active play. Also, IneptOne, our stealth reviver (who may or may not have pioneered the concept)… Dux Ducis, a fun guy who got eaten by RL and I'm sure is a successful executive somewhere now… Jennifer Thrush for being one scary and wonderful lady, our Muse in all things… Gunner92 for IRC hilarity… OK, now I think I'm just rambling. I'll miss you, Red Rum.

    Of course, I can think of no more fitting epitaph than "that strange couplet from the book of Al'hazred, the Mad Arab: “That is not dead which can eternal lie / And with strange aeons, even death may die.”"

    Now, Karl, where'd you put the damn Biscuit Tin? I could use a Jaffa cake!
    His Imperial & Royal Highness, the Archduke d’Œuvre 
    Uh-huh... http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/199/896/2jfg08h.gif --Papa Moloch 10:41, 16 April 2012 (BST)
  29. YES, YES, and YES again. This group has been amazingly memorable, for so long, and the perfect day to close its doors. Absolutely gets my vote for Historical, and apparently everyone else's (despite my continued refusal to acknowledge that the group no longer exists). Karloooooooth! *shakes his fist vehemently* --Visible One 14:16, 16 April 2012 (BST)
  30. YES. Red Rum was always a fun group to deal with for the Dulston Alliance, and an absolutely hilarious bunch of folks who left their mark on Malton. They deserve this status. -- Ottari DA PDA NW Read the Dispatch! 07:48, 17 April 2012 (BST)
  31. The PKer group. Infamous, effective, irreverent, creative, mischievous, and personally, inspirational. Well and truly deserving of this status. --BOSCH 10:28, 17 April 2012 (BST)
  32. They already seemed at least semi-historical back when I joined. -- †  talk ? f.u. 16:14, 20 April 2012 (BST)

No

  1. look one no better than none ---Moosebomb
    where to begin? 1st. voting has closed, second learn proper formatting, and finally learn to sign properly.--User:Sexualharrison23:00, 23 April 2012

With voting closed, it's readily apparent that the community views Red Rum as a historical group (and with good reason!). This bid is a success. Aichon 23:28, 23 April 2012 (BST)

Channel 4 News Team

I'm still a little confused as to why I'm the one to do this, having Mr. Burgundy or another iconic member come back to do it would have been a fitting end for the group. But anyway, reports from one of its older members confirm that the group has been without activity for quite some time. According to forum and wiki activity the group has been inactive for many months, well past the 4 month waiting period for historical group nominations.

Again, I really don't know what to say about C4NT because I assume that if you're anyone who's anyone you already know what there is to know. They were led by the hilarious Ron Burgundy till 2008, probably one of the only real legendary survivors of UD, and have had a huge influence and impact in UD's earlier history, most famously the Battle of Blackmore, and also the first, second and third sieges of Caiger Mall. As a new ~2007 user, my bedtime lullabies were stories of Ron Burgundy and his quests for Glorious Battle, something I'm sure many of today's users can relate to. I only joined C4NT for a short period of time but in that small amount I had a ball, they were great players and funny roleplayers.

So here is the nomination I guess. Again, not really sure if I should add anything, since I'm assuming anyone who's been here for more than a few months will recognise them as historical in a splitsecond, but if you have more to add just add it below here I guess, or in your vote. I really liked C4NT and it's sad to see it go but It'll also be really fitting to finally see them go into Historical Groups (hopefully).

Note: I'm also aware that C4NT are still on the stats page too, with about 10 members. I think these may be stragglers similar to those who still had the group tag despite inactivity from the core group members, like when say The Dead's voting went forth. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:34, 24 June 2011 (BST)

Yes

  1. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:30, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  2. I HAVE PERFECT FUCKING HAIR AND CLASSY FUCKING SUITS!--User:Sexualharrison03:51, 24 June 2011 (bst)
  3. BY ODIN'S RAVEN! – Textbook historical group. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:00, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  4. 1 lemon 2 lemon 3 melon. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:27, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  5. As Revenant.--Penguinpyro 05:28, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  6. I once met Ron Burgundy. My god, his hair... I still weep to remember it. Mordred 07:25, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  7. Essential --Papa Moloch 09:39, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  8. Mmm, I just burnt my tongue. --Rosslessness 10:11, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  9. Pretty much the essential survivor experience. I do miss eating them though. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 10:25, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  10. Speedy Delete Crit 1. -- Spiderzed 12:20, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  11. Duh, I really can't believe we're having to ask whether or not this group deserves historical status or not. --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 12:35, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  12. Who? --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:17, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  13. Vouch Promote the CUNTs. ~Vsig.png 16:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
  14. I will miss the fashion news. --QBee 16:47, 24 June 2011 (BST)
    Only historical because of their gross abuse of copyright violations.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 17:22, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  15. I shot at Ron Burgundy once, but he was protected by bears --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 18:41, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  16. Big fat yes -DonTickles 18:57, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  17. Voting from a glass cage of emotion. Nothing to be done! 19:27, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  18. Hell yes Asheets 20:30, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  19. Yes--Mrite 22:28, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  20. Vouch as yonnua :D --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 23:14, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  21. Yes - They aren't already? Well get them in there! Aichon 23:18, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  22. Aye-- Skoll Die 01:18, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  23. Yes - Hibernaculum 02:11, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  24. Yes - in memory of Baxt... wait, he still alive ? That's a miracle !!! --hagnat 03:39, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  25. YES - Many great memories with this group. Stay classy, C4NT. --Zod Rhombus 06:02, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  26. Yes Classy chaps. Smyg 14:40, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  27. Like they even need my vote. --AORDMOPRI ! T 14:50, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  28. Guess what, yes. I know that one day C4NT and I are gonna to get married on top of a mountain, and there's going to be flutes playing and trombones and flowers and garlands of fresh herbs. And we will dance till the sun rises. And then our children will form a family band. And we will tour the countryside and you won't be invited. --Mallrat The Spanish Inquisition TSI The Kilt Store TKS Clubbed to Death CTD 17:12, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  29. Too bad they were active before my time here, but looking at their page it looks these guys were legends. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ talk 17:16, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  30. Yeah. -MHSstaff 20:40, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  31. Obviously yes.--FT 22:05, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  32. Duh. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 23:52, 27 June 2011 (BST)
  33. YAR Sad to see them gone, only because the new groups will never get a chance to have the C4NT do a report on them or their exploits. --Josh Clark 06:48, 28 June 2011 (BST)
  34. I remember when my alt DJSpinbad joined. It was during the Battle of Blackmore and I ran into Ron. I personally asked him to join the team, although I'm pretty sure my eyes were awestruck by his awesome hair that the words asking to join were just blurted out. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:09, 28 June 2011 (BST)
  35. Yup Malton seems so much emptier without them. Barbecue Barbecue 08:59, 29 June 2011 (BST)
  36. Yessuh Better to go to law school than fade away --Arthur Dent BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 18:43, 29 June 2011 (BST)
  37. Yes This old Malton Ranger misses his allies in C4NT. Alas, all things must pass. Marcel Swann 00:27, 30 June 2011 (BST)
  38. Damn Skippy. As a Ranger there was little better then charging a horde with C4NT cameras beside you. Well, maybe Burchell Arms bathtub whiskey. Or warm apple pie. Hmm, now that I think about it, there was that RRF streetwalker in Ridleybank back in '09...*cough, but, what I'm tryin to say is besides cheap whiskey and zombah hookers, ya can't beat C4NT! Det Briscoe 03:36, 30 June 2011 (BST)
  39. I was thinkin about her, thinkin about me. Thinking about us, what we gonna be? Open my eyes, yeah; it was only just a dream. So I travel back, down that road. Who she come back? No one knows. I realize, yeah, it was only just a dream. I was at the top and I was like I’m at the basement. Number one spot and now she found her a replacement. I swear now I can't take it, knowing somebody's got my baby. And now you ain't around, baby I can't think. Shoulda put it down. Shoulda got that ring. Cuz I can still feel it in the air. See her pretty face run my fingers through her hair. My lover, my life. My shorty, my wife. She left me, I'm tied. Cuz I knew that it just ain't right. I was thinkin about her, thinkin about me. Thinking about us, what we gonna be? Open my eyes, yeah; it was only just a dream. So I travel back, down that road. Who she come back? No one knows. I realize, yeah, it was only just a dream. When I be ridin man I swear I see her face at every turn. Tryin to get my usher over, I can let it burn. And I just hope she notice she the only one I yearn for. Oh I miss her when will I learn? Didn't give her all my love, I guess now I got my payback. Now I'm in the club thinkin all about my baby. Hey, she was so easy to love. But wait, I guess that love wasn't enough. I'm goin through it every time that I'm alone. And now i'm missin, wishin she'd pick up the phone. But she made a decision that she wanted to move one. Cuz I was wrong. And I was thinkin about her, thinkin about me. Thinking about us, what we gonna be? Open my eyes, yeah; it was only just a dream. So I travel back, down that road. Who she come back? No one knows. I realize, yeah, it was only just a dream. If you ever loved somebody put your hands up. If you ever loved somebody put your hands up. And now they're gone and you wish you could give them everything. I said, if you ever loved somebody put your hands up. If you ever loved somebody put your hands up. And now they're gone and you wish you could give them everything. I was thinkin about her, thinkin about me. Thinking about us, what we gonna be? Open my eyes, yeah; it was only just a dream. So I travel back, down that road. Who she come back? No one knows. I realize, yeah, it was only just a dream. And I was thinkin about her, thinkin about me. Thinking about us, what we gonna be? Open my eyes, yeah; it was only just a dream. So I travel back, down that road. Who she come back? No one knows. I realize, yeah, it was only just a dream. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 06:46, 30 June 2011 (BST)
  40. Duh. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:26, 1 July 2011 (BST)
  41. Yes. Ah-.. To see one of best groups go inactive is heart-breaking. --Suff-TMS- <-- Killin' zombies! 22:25, 4 July 2011 (BST)
  42. By the irritable bowels of Zeus! Today, while studying for the Texas bar exam, I received an email saying that the Channel 4 News Team is up for a historical vote. It's been a few years and a lifetime since I wandered off, but I still think about the News Team and laugh. Hopefully you all had as much fun reading about it as I had writing it. If any of you wash ashore in Galveston, Texas over the summer, come find me and I'll buy you all a scotch. --Ron Burgundy 23:58, 4 July 2011 (BST)
    basically. Fuck Off San Diego!--User:Sexualharrison09:06, 5 July 2011 (bst)
  43. ẁ҉͢ò͝͡͡͡r̕͡t̸̸̢͜h̷̨̧̡y͟͡.̸̧̕͘--jorm 05:13, 5 July 2011 (BST)

No

  1. NO but only because they deserve to be in a category of their own..."LEGENDARY" --Honestmistake 08:06, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  2. No - I feel like a jerk going against such a clear bandwagon, but I've only heard mentions of them, and it doesn't seem like they held significant military weight. --VVV RPGMBCWS 07:48, 25 June 2011 (BST)
    Probably because they weren't military.. they were reporters.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 07:57, 25 June 2011 (BST)
    They were heavily involved in almost every historical event in the game's history before they vanished. You should take a jaunt through Category:Historical Events--Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:06, 25 June 2011 (BST)
    Or indeed the current featured article on the main page. --Rosslessness 10:51, 25 June 2011 (BST)
    and Military Might has nothing to do with being historical. See QSG on Tour--User:Sexualharrison11:26, 25 June 2011 (bst)
    'Military weight'? Are you serious?! It's nothing to do with military power or bandwagons. They were involved in all the big events, often as key members/ringleaders and were led by one of the most famous players ever to hit Malton. The only group in the game who are more deserving of historical status than C4NT are the Ridleybank Resistance Front.--Papa Moloch 14:30, 25 June 2011 (BST)
  3. Who? - Haw.gif --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:05, 28 June 2011 (BST)
  4. As Akule--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 22:45, 4 July 2011 (BST)


I didn't even bother to checkuser and calculate, because it is crystal-clear that the community wants C4NT to be historical. And so they were massively successful. -- Spiderzed 12:07, 9 July 2011 (BST)

(To The) Four Winds

The group has officially disbanded after losing its fight against dwindling numbers and the shock and void left by the death of the well-loved and highly active player behind Brother Angst. (To The) Four Winds was created in September 2006 as an entirely, totally, 100% mobile revive group, with no home suburb whatsoever. As far as I am aware, it was an entirely new concept at the time and we believe we were the first pro-survivor group to run from suburb to suburb managing revive points and helping local groups rebuild their homes. We somewhat set a model, with groups following suit later, such as the Dribbling Beavers detaching the mobile Bouncing Beavers during the Second Big Bash. We started by following the Big Bash step by step. At our best in late 2006, we were able to attend requests in 2 hours maximum time, despite being only 29. During the Second Big Bash, even with numbers no higher than 12 (and usually much less than that), we were quick, good and respected enough to feature, with others, in Uncle Zeddie’s “Radio Survivor” episode 31 (http://radiosurvivor.blogspot.com, “Darth Zeddie” episode, around min 2:10; March 31st 2008). We have now gone, but we think we set a premiere in a way of playing the game and we also changed the survivor’s mentality from deeply suburb rooted to more mobile minded; thus, for what I believe to be these main contributions to the game, I nominate the group for Historical status.

  1. Yes - Nominator's vote. Besides, I think being the first truly mobile reviver group is historical. --Aureus 14:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  2. For - The group's name still pops up in conversations now despite being a force so long ago. I'm for it. Nothing to be done! 14:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yea ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 15:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Definitely. I considered putting a survivor character in with you guys, but never had the organisation. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yea - I've heard of you, you've been around a long time, and you have a legitimate claim to being historically significant. Good luck!--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 16:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yea --RahrahCome join the #party!16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  7. No-Axel27 16:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
    glad to see you're not bitter that your zergling infestation has been rejected. :D --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Explanation done by those before me.-- Adward  17:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yes - I love these guys. Getting behind the lines and dishing out needles while everyone else is pulling triggers and waving cocks? How dare you! --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 17:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yea - Nice to have some legitimate claims come through occasionally. Aichon 19:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  11. Yea - Historical for the new ideas it supplied. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  12. Aye - For the above, as well as an impressive track record of going beyond the game. --Private Mark 20:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  13. For - It's been a while since I heard the name, but as I remember it anyway means something. Good luck with the historical status, though I'm pretty sure you won't need it :P RinKou 21:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yea - As Karloth --Haliman - Talk 22:47, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Obviously. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  16. Yes - They deserve it. --LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 23:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  17. Yes - This group definitely meets Historical Group criteria. --ZiPbeep boopMH+LUE 23:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  18. Yea - -- The Rune Carver/ Hejsa 23:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Original, highly-skilled and contributors in major events. Good enough for my endorsement. --Papa Moloch 23:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  20. Yes --Paul Power 00:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  21. Yea -- 01:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  22. Yea --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 01:51, 12 December 2009 (BST)
  23. No - Sorry, not taking the claim that you created the mobile survivor group model seriously at all. Were you around these events? Yes, I vaguely remember you. Did you do anything in and of yourself to contribute, style or mould the game in a previously unknown way? Not that I can see. An old and well liked group you are, historical you are not. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 06:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  24. Yea I remember them. My non PKer alts have been revived by them numerous times. --Kelly_U RR talk 09:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  25. Yes Former member myself, I found there was no other group which implemented the reviving of the worst suburbs (in the fullest meaning of reviving, not only de-zombifying) better. We were known by many groups in many of the suburbs, we were there when it mattered. --Moran 12:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  26. Yes Another former member who joined after being helped a lot by this group. --Enniskillen 13:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  27. Yes these guys were the real deal. fun to play with and fun to kill.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 21:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
  28. YES I have seen your work. Cheers!--Roland 00:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  29. No -Hibernaculum 04:28, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  30. No never heard of them --Athur birling 23:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  31. No - I've never seen you in-game, and only heard of your group from the wiki. --ZsL 01:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  32. Yes - worked alongside you guys a couple of times years back. Great group Sanpedro 02:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  33. yes/whatever - --Truezombieboy 08:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  34. YES _ One of the most effective mobile revive groups. Loved working with you guys!--Jim Bim 11:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  35. Yes Any group that even tries to suggest that survivors do more than polish guns behind EHB cades is game changing in my book. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  36. Yes Worked with them as a Dribbling Beaver then joined up with them. --Primo Beer
  37. Yes My character enjoyed the necessary slaughter of these healers from time to time--C Whitty 15:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  38. No - They existed, sure. But they didn't do shit. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 18:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
  39. Yes --Hawke2019 03:49, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
  40. Yup --WanYao 07:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Voting Over. With 40 votes, of which 34 indicate approval and 6 indicate disapproval, (To The) Four Winds has achieved a percentage of 85% and has passed the vote to become a historical group. Aichon 21:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN ARCHIVED! --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 08:32, 3 June 2010 (BST)

Flowers of Disease

Flowers of Disease have disbanded and they have been a strong PKer presence in Malton for years. I have had the pleasure in battling them in the streets myself as a Bounty Hunter. Their Campaigns were often well organized against any who they deemed a target. You could always expect them to be part of any PKA organized attacks or get together. From Samhain Slaughter and Samhain Slaughter 2. The Malton Uprising, and Silent Night Slaughter at Fort Creedy. That is why I am nominating them for Historical Status.

  1. Yes - Nominator vote --Josh Clark 02:03, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes - Flowers=Win AU10Pantomime Mistress of Pain┌∩┐()┌∩┐03:41, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  3. Yes - For Democracy!-- SA 15:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  5. Yes --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 06:44, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  6. Yes Flotsam. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:23, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  7. Yes --Jimaine Dunwich 09:56, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  8. Yes Of bloody course! --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 10:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  9. Yes - I used to be in agroup that fought them, and I am proud to say that I have done that. Obvious yes! (Funny, the Blackhawk died before the Flowers did. T proves that God is a racist/hawkist son of a bitch.)--Dedling 02:01, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  10. Yes I LOVE PK GROUPS! Criminally Insane 10:22, 22 October 2009 (BST)\\
  11. Yes Yes but only cause they get me high ----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 11:08, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  12. Yes for obvious reasons ConndrakaTAZM CFT 11:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  13. Yes While a small group, they brought a lot of fun to the PKer community and had a lot of presence in game. --Papa Johnny 13:14, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  14. Yes Without a doubt, one of the most inventive, and brilliantly done groups out there. Original and always coming up with amazing events. Not to mention every member I have met in game is a stand up person. Matt Aries 14:30, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  15. Yes - Our allies, our friends. Massive driving force in the PKA, and great guys. They'll be missed. --Blanemcc 16:37, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  16. Yes --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:36, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  17. Yes - Johnny said it best, they did a lot for Pkers in game. -- Emot-argh.gif 18:08, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  18. Yes - They meet the criteria to me. But if this is some kind of trick to get historical status and they aren't really disbanded I'll be upset.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 19:26, 22 October 2009 (BST)
    We are disbanded, but for a celebration for the two years of Pking we will be attending the Samhain Slaughter 3 [not confirmed].--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 14:08, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  19. Yes - As Giles, however. Aichon 20:59, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  20. Yes - Pretty fun group in the past --Haliman - Talk 22:33, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  21. Yes - Excellent PKers and an awesome group. Also: Frighteningly effective. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 23:38, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  22. Yes - One of the best and will be missed --Gus ThomasSpartaZHU 01:40, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  23. Yes - I'm sad to see this awesome group go. --ZsL 02:09, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  24. No - Did nothing to change the game that I ever noticed. --WanYao 03:19, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  25. Yes - --Met Fan F 03:33, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  26. Sure why not - Never heard of them, but I like PKers Cookies and Cream 07:46, 23 October 2009 (BST)
    Wow... --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 21:39, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  27. No --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:54, 23 October 2009 (BST)
    Essentially, as Moloch. I don't think Flowers fit the greater picture of a historical group. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:51, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  28. Yes - Oh fuck yes. Nothing to be done! 16:38, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  29. No - I can't believe this is even being considered. These people had a flimsy gimmick and image. Their impact on the game as a whole was negligible outside of one or two internet forums, and most importantly: they haven't been around that long. --Dhavid Grohl 17:26, 23 October 2009 (BST)
    We love you to.--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:41, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  30. No- Historical on what grounds? Srs question... Sorry, I'll have to say no. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 21:39, 23 October 2009 (BST)
    Well it certainly wouldn't be based on our visits to your two groups Obi. --Hib
  31. No - I think this vote is a perfect example on how far you can get on the bandwagon. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 21:52, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  32. Yes - Cuz if there's all this butthurt over them they must have been doing their jobs right. - M arcusF ilby T 23:04, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  33. Yes - Without them, some of the biggest and best PKer strikes in Malton may never have happened. As a group they were phenomenal at racking up hundreds of kills in many different campaigns. --Toothdecay 23:34, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  34. No - I like the Flowers a lot, both as players and as people, but I don't see in what way they can genuinely be considered significant enough to be an historical group. They were all very good at what they did - probably the best 'griefing' team in the game - but to me that's not enough. Too often nowadays the historical tag is used simply to differentiate between good and bad groups, hence the number of middling groups who now bear the accolade (Ghetto Cow spring immediately to mind). Flowers of Disease were undoubtedly good, but for me an historical group needs to have made a difference to the game itself. Sadly I don't think that they achieved that, so my vote here has to be no. --Papa Moloch 00:21, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    At least you said no in a good way :D --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 00:26, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  35. Yes - The Flowers were famous for their group tactics and warfare strategy. I can't help but see anyone saying "no" as being butthurt by the fact that either A) they'll never be in a historical group they made or B) were stomped into the ground by the Flowers. If you need proof of why they deserve historical group status, well look up Samhain Slaughter and Silent Night Slaughter. Goribus 01:18, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    If you can't see 'no' votes in any other way than those that you outline then you have a truly risible understanding of both the voters concerned and of the game itself. --Papa Moloch 01:29, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Most of the 'no' votes come from TZH and other Pro Survivor groups that the Flowers have come in contact with. I'm also blunt, and don't give a fuck about pretending I know everything about a browser game on the internet. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I can't help but see most, if not all, of the 'no' votes as spite. However, do correct me if I'm wrong. That's always more helpful than snide comments. Goribus 01:50, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    That you have the audacity to make, yes, a snide remark about 'snide' remarks, having posted, yes again, a snide remark ('I can't help but see anyone saying "no" as being butthurt by the fact that either A) they'll never be in a historical group they made or B) were stomped into the ground by the Flowers.') only serves to demonstrate that you are not only a poor commentator, but also something of a fool. TZH are twats (no surprise to anyone there), but Wan Yao and DDR have been around a long time and do not vote in enmity. As for me, Hibernaculum and I have been meta-game friends for a couple of years. I voted no because for me they do not fit the tag 'Historical' as they lack lasting influence. But naturally, anyone who disagrees with you must be 'butthurt' and lack any other reason for their decision, right? --Papa Moloch 02:03, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Most =/= Moloch. I can't stress that enough. I'm sorry you decided to jump up and say "Fuck you! I'm not being spiteful" when it wasn't directed at you. It was directed at TZH, the Umbrella guy, and anyone else being spiteful. All you really had to do is say something along the lines of "I've known them for years, and I don't agree.", but no. You jump up and make a scene. And over what? You thinking some stranger on the internet thinks you're being a dick? *shrugs* Sorry man, but I think you need to calm down. You're taking shit that wasn't aimed at you personally. You know what? If you want to continue arguing let's do it on our talk pages or in PMs, or where ever. This ain't the place for it. Goribus 02:17, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    You don't have a clue about my voting motivation, so don't call me out for something you don't know about. I heard only once or twice from FOD, and I have never met any member of them. If you don't like my personal opinion then just stay away. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:30, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    I will say Moloch though I don't agree with you (and I think the disparity is in what we interpret is and isn't considered "historical"), I respect your opinion. At least your decision was made based on what you believe, not because you were crushed by the FOD and are still upset over it like the TZH chumps. Which is what Goribus took issue with. Lets leave it at this then and let the vote play out. My opinion is that we were not as historical as some already considered historical but more historical than others. Certainly as Pkers, I think we did enough during our time to warrant consideration. - HIB
    Everyone's interpretation of "lasting" or "Historical" is quite different from each other.I voted yes because the Flowers and Hib made a big difference to me personally as mentors.The Flowers were one group that affected my game play, and because of this, indirectly effected the game as a whole. One of the reasons LoD is growing strong as a Death Cult/PK group is because of how they played. A long time ago I watched from a distance as best as I could on how they conducted themselves. I read forum banter, watched them in game ect. to help me be a better leader. Now you could say, is this relevant or lasting? Why yes, it is to me. These votes are of a personal opinion and The Flowers of Disease made a lasting impression on me, which indirectly effected the game. In my opinion, this is well deserving of a yes vote. I am only but one voice. Freedom of opinion and an equal right to vote is Democracy. It's not perfect but it will be the ruling factor here.AU10Pantomime Mistress of Pain┌∩┐()┌∩┐03:33, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    As far as I can see the formal criteria for being a historical group no longer includes having a lasting influence on the game. Is that right? --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 18:10, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    +1, Mr. Dignam.-- SA 17:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  36. No I don't feel the Flowers impacted my gameplay or the others around me. Therefore, I do not think they are historical. Now don't get it wrong, they were pretty amazing, but not quite historical. --RahrahCome join the #party!09:47, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Thats because we never had to vist your groups.(Thats a good thing)--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 10:32, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    You know you sound like every other fucking trenchcoater with an over-inflated opinion of himself and his lame-assed group. Just thought I'd mentioned that....
    I never encountered your group. To me, you were nothing but a wiki page a tiny bit of hype (mostly created by your feud with fellow attention-whores, TZH). You never had any impact on the game that I play, you changed nothing and contributed nothing original to UD/Malton. So, no matter how awesome you may think your group was, they aren't historical. --WanYao 14:13, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Everyone is entiltled to their opnion. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:33, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Ahhhh, good to see we can still cause a ruckus amongst those who don't like us even when we've closed shop. Anyway, take a pill and settle down Wanny boy. Perhaps the concept of humour has escaped you but he was saying it tongue in cheek. lets get the historical definition straight since there seems to be some confusion. Here is the policy definition that is laid out on this page for obtaining historical status. Groups are added to historical groups if they have made an impact on the way the game is played or otherwise contributed to the history of Malton. So we never had any impact on the game you play? So you actually play then? And not just do your best impersonation of WOOT on Brianstock? Think on this. How many groups have actually made an impact on the way the game is played? If that's the only criteria, you better remove everyone but The DEAD. And maybe there is a place for the DEM when they are done and possibly the RRF. Thats it. The others all fall into the second category and that is otherwise contributed to the history of Malton. Now that contribution is up for debate which is what this vote is about. We earned the respect of our peers (as you can see from the votes), helped plan the 3 biggest Pker strikes in the game in the last two years, and had one of the highest, if not the highest kill count of any Pker group over that span. Basically, you really don't follow the game much if you think all we did was attack TZH. TZH was one campaign which lasted just over a month. And the hype was created by them, not us. We could care less about them but they still carry on as if it happened yesterday. I've seen your posts before at BS WAN. And it's always negative, pontificating...like the rest of us are all a bunch of dummies and your word is gospel. By your own admission, you never encountered us but yet to you we were just a wiki page and hype. Good to see you made your judgment based on the facts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. If you honestly think we aren't worthy of consideration, so be it. Vote NO. But it would be nice if the opinion would be based on some sort of fact or true belief and not just I've never encountered you but Your a lame assed group and you're just a wiki page and hype. I don't like you. Sorry Moloch. Goribus was right. Wanny's vote has as much merit as TZH's. Just another guy with an axe to grind. -- HIB
    '...possibly the RRF'? 0.o --Papa Moloch 16:37, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    I think you need to learn how to sign, before you puke out a wall of text like that.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:22, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    {SIGH}...Sorry Thadeous, is this better? But you are correct. That was excessive. Especially here. I'll say no more. --Hibernaculum 17:04, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Wow. I've voted against a LOT of whiney trenchcoater groups who yelled and screamed at every No voter who wasn't willing to acknowledge their obvious greatness -- but you guys really take the take. Really, really, really sorry if your in-game antics made no difference to my gameplay or impacted the culture of Malton as far as I am concerned. Also really, really, really sorry if the only place you seem to know me from is Brainstock -- a shyte board full of shyte trolls which I never took seriously. Maybe you were big and mighty there, but as I said, I considered Brainstock a joke and treated it as such. Maybe if you'd influenced some stuff over at Barhah.com... maybe if you'd made a difference to groups like COMBAT REVIVE / The Big Prick or 404: Barhah not found... Or to events like the Second Big Bash... Maybe then I'd have voted Yes. But, you didn't... So quit whining like such butthurt morons. Oh... and your idea of focusing on PKing lame and stupid survivor groups was most certainly not original or new. --WanYao 01:19, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
    Wan, someone made a silly joke. You came out of nowhere acting like an absolute asshole. Hib's mistake was responding to your trolling, not being "butthurt" about your vote. Nobody cares about your vote, or was interested in your description about what it would have taken to get it. You were insulting and got an unhappy response. Congratulations. If you feel the need to continue this, please do it in a manner other than a collection of insults designed to cause an internet pissing contest. --Allan Friedman 04:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
    You're obviously reading a completely different thread than me... I am far from alone in thinking that FoD are not worthy of historical status and neither am I alone in my reasons for considering the nomination unjustified. Meanwhile, several of FoD supporters have been saying that those voting "No" were either personally butthurt by the group or just ignorant for not having heard of them. News flash: most of us are neither. And, if I choose to defend myself vigorously in the face of such an comments... well... if that makes me a troll... Brave for me, where's my lumpy wooden club?
    Meanwhile, seeing as a significant minority of users -- many of whom know UD very well and have been part of the communtiy for a long time -- are in agreement with me... my opinion isn't as irrelevant as you'd like to make out. Anyhooo... I'll let you go back to being a pot calling a kettle black now. Cheers and thanks for your "valuable input"! --WanYao 12:48, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
    If you think you were defending your views, perhaps we are reading two different threads. Because in the one I'm reading, there had been exactly one negative comment made about the "no" voters when you jumped all over Michaelson. It wasn't made by him, or a member of any of his groups for that matter. So if your intent was to "defend yourself vigorously" I suggest that next time you aim your defense at somebody who has actually attacked you in some way. --Allan Friedman 18:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
    When I used the word "thread" I meant the entire conversation taking place here. If you'd been reading this page instead of making lame attempts to insult me, you'd know exactly what I was talking about, i.e. every No voter getting called "butthurt" or "stupid" because they don't agree that FoD merit historical status. You can pretend you don't know what I'm talking about... you can pretend that I had no justification in calling out yet another egoist trenchcoater whinging and crying over someone's No vote... but the facts will be against you. --WanYao 21:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    Christ, I knew what you meant by thread. I'll make this simple for you. On this page, this entire fucking page, there was exactly one negative generalization of the 'no' voters when you decided to attack Michaelson. That comment was not written by Michaelson. It wasn't written by a member of any of his groups. Now you have claimed repeatedly you were insulting him to defend against people lumping all the 'no' voters as butthurt. Do you seriously not see why that makes no sense?--Allan Friedman 23:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    Butthurt? Chumps? Ladies, get a fucking grip. You think TZH were butthurt by a bunch of shit mushrooms? FOD were failures. Thats the point. They failed to butthurt us. There was no pwnage, there was no fight. They weren't even fun. They killed a tiny number of our guys compared to those that we took down of theirs. It was fucking hilarious. I could fill pages with screenshots if I gave enough of the shit they gobble to do it. But I don't. Oops. The only one butthurt here are the fools that put time into this lame ass group. Historical? The pwnage I laid on the toilet this morning had more history. And every one of you chumps that jumped on the TZH hate wagon can get bent too, you're just as tired and lame ass as the FOD. Next thing you know you'll be beggin for historical status too, and once again I'll have to be the only one around here with eyes to see who will have to let you know just how insignificant you really are. Now lets hear the hate, DANCE puppets, dance. BALLS TO THE WHALLS! --Dhavid Grohl 04:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
  37. Yes - They always seemed a little above the game as far as PKers go. One of the classier groups. Really sad to see them go. Who'll take care of all the flotsam now? RinKou 17:55, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  38. Yes Hibernaculum took out a genny for me while my PKer slept, never had the chance to return the favor. I'm a lower working-class American, that's how I vote, yo. --Bobby the Hatchet 18:06, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  39. Yes - I respect Moloch's opinion and double-checked the definition of a historical group. "Historical groups if they have made an impact on the way the game is played or otherwise contributed to the history of Malton." (right from the policy discussion of Historical Groups) Now, I have not been playing long so I cannot comment with confidence on what kind of impact FOD has had, but I have read enough about various events to know that they have helped shape things. If we consider events like the Samhain Slaughter, etc to be events worthy of note, then I think FOD qualifies as a historical group. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 19:04, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  40. Yes - simply yes. --Sir WV 19:31, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  41. Yes - History should be recorded for anything... to lose the history of a grain of sand is a tragedy, to purposefully delete the history of entire group is an atrocity. -Devorac 22:05, 24 October 2009 (BST)
  42. No - Negatory. "Good group" and "classy players" and all that noise is totally irrelevant. This is about whether or not they're historical, and... I just don't see it. - Subotei's Crotch 22:13, 24 October 2009 (BST)
    Wow, this is a great read. It seems most of the no's are from folks who never really knew the FoD or, got there asses handed to them by the FoD.I can tell you that I started this game sometime in 2005 and wandered around doing the survivor thing long enough to get to level 41, and then got bored and subsequently stopped playing for quite a while. Then one day I was logged in and doing some research and found the FoD! Oh, what a glorious day that was. I went through the process of joining the group and it was balls to the walls for around 2 years! Great folks, great PK'ers (some of them, the BEST I have ever seen) and Great fun!
    They made me a far better player and most defiantly changed the game in my eye's.--Roland 00:02, 25 October 2009 (BST)
    Can you and the other punks stop crying every time someone fucking votes against? Fact: Butthurt players ALWAYS vote against in historical nominations. Deal with it. Fact: This nomination is going to pass despite their votes, so who cares? Fact: You idiots are behaving more butthurt by retaliating to EVERY no vote with such ferocity. Just shut the fuck up and let the voting progress, sheesh. You are going to pass, stop doing it so ungraciously. It's disgusting. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:06, 25 October 2009 (BST)
    Punk? I was just posting my opinions dude! That's it you are going on my list. hehe--Roland 01:14, 25 October 2009 (BST)
    And no one cares about them, least of all the people you are aiming them at. Why not focus on having the bid pass rather than engaging in text wars with the minimal opposition? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:20, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
    Sheesh dude, I was not really engaging anyone, just speaking my piece till your sorry ass showed up! Heheheh MMOGA's are many, and you are one of them. It must suck to be stuck in the basement at 37... That is all. Sorry for the tasteless crap folks.--Roland 01:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
    Bringing up the very notion out of thin air that I am in a basement at 37 years old makes it more likely that you are in such a situation rather than me. And I was aiming my comments at all the morons needlessly bitching to the no voters. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
    God damn. I make a simple vote an' come back a couple days later to check on things and am greeted with this? Christ. - Subotei's Crotch 04:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    Yes- I was a member back in the day. Simply put I felt we were the best at what we did for a long time. FOD certainly helped create a unique niche in the city by means of "educating" many a group. They were "anti useless survivor" making them pro survivor in a warped kinda way. I thought that was a great angle to work from, and certainly a first. As others have mentioned Hib was vital in the planning and success of many of the cities biggest pk outings ever. I can't say to what was after I left, but as far as I know, they were still takin names and kickin ass. Are they worthy of historical status?....I think so. Bootsy funk Improperly signed. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:06, 25 October 2009 (BST)
    Stop removing the strike, Roland. Improperly signed votes are not counted. Tell your friend to come back and resign it properly. Unjustly remove the strike again and I'll put you up at A/VB. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
  43. No - As Moloch above. Seemed like a decent group of people, but not historical. --DonTickles 11:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
  44. No -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:51, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
  45. No - Although one of the better organized "griefer" groups, they weren't around long enough or did anything really noteworthy enough to be properly considered historically significant. Again, a ditto for Papa Moloch's general assessment --Fallout11 01:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  46. No - Never heard of you, and I've been around since 2005. And the best "griefer" groups were ASS and Gankbus in my book, not to mention DARIS. Superior tactics and efficiency always is nice but not enough to be considered historic. --DarthRevan 06:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  47. No. Moloch is a lying faggot about Ghetto Cow though. :'( -- SA 14:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  48. Yes - Absolutely. --LEt 17:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  49. Yes - I firmly and definitely believe the FOD deserves this status. --STTinywhitemask.GIFPK 20:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  50. No - Nothing historical and they're rather pompous. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  51. No - Mediocre group, never did anything big, mediocre goals, never really succeeded in these goals (inb4 made TZH quit, whoopedy-fucking-doo), unoriginal idea (flotsam? you copied the pknights but called the ignorant people flotsam... nice)--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 03:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
  52. No - "Groups are added to historical groups if they have made an impact on the way the game is played or otherwise contributed to the history of Malton." In other words, this is simply a popularity contest. Nothing against the FOD but, as WOOT, they were a little too much like the Philosophe Knights, who really did change the way the game is played. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 16:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
  53. Yes - I see most of the No voters are non-PKers who have no idea what contributions FoD have made, which tells me their vote is based on popularity instead of substance. FoD has done quite well. --Headless gunner W! 19:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    Is it yours and a few others job to try and justify why people voted no? It doesn't matter why. There's also no reason to make comments which you have almost no evidence to back you up. The fact you use the phrase "no idea what contributions FoD have made..." tells me that they are fully entitled to vote no based on that, as, for historical staus, the group must have made an impact. If they didn't feel that impact, they why would they vote yes? --RahrahCome join the #party!19:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    I see that most of the Yes voters are PKers who have no idea what contributions FoD have made, which tells me their vote is based on popularity instead of substance. More seriously, please do not accuse those who disagree with you of being ignorant simply because their are on the other side of the lines. It is just as likely that any one of the "No" votes came from an ignorant/"butthurt" survivor as it is that any of the "Yes" votes came from a PKer who just wanted to support their friends without consideration of what it means to be "historic". There's no need for all this bitching and drama going back-and-forth on account of oh who the hell am I kidding it's the Wiki. Why do I keep checking this? - Subotei's Crotch 21:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    Well said. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
    Pro. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
    The irony of what you said was ASTOUNDING, headless gunner. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
    If you look at the first vote Nominator vote you'll see it's a Bounty Hunter, also a few other yes votes are Bounty Hunters as well. That should tell you not all Yes votes are PKers. I also agree that where the game is now there is no possible way a group can change the way the game is. So You will have to go with otherwise contributed to the history of Malton for Historical consideration. FOD although Loved by Some and Hated by others has contributed to the history of Malton. I tangled with them myself back when I first started playing the game, they contributed to my history by helping me be less trenchy as a Bounty Hunter. --Josh Clark 03:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
    He was being sarcastic :|. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
  54. No - I hate popularity contests. --Private Mark 04:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
    Also - The order the votes are made in don't matter AT ALL. So don't move my ages old comment that I put a new time stamp on because it makes sense that way to conform to some sort of "order". Cocks. >: ( -- SA 15:18, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
    OK, seriously SA? Is there a wiki 'sysop' around here to delete this stupidity? Preferably one who has some neutrality? Really, should I go and vote for myself 10 times? SA? You cast your "No" vote once. What is the problem with letting the vote play out? You keep coming back. We get it. You don't think we deserve your vote. Is it so hard to cast your "NO" and then get lost?...Oh wait! You gave a yes vote up there too! You're an Idiot.--Hibernaculum 02:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
    LOL! I just noticed I asked for a Wiki 'sysop' to bring some order to SA's stupidy and HE IS A WIKI SYSOP! And so is DDR! I guess the deck is stacked against me then isn't it? Are you going to "WARN" me now SA because I called you an idiot? We aren't going to get a fair shake in this kangaroo court... --Hibernaculum 02:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
    Trust me. I wish there was something we could warn you for, with all your bantering and anti-sysop bullshit. Just learn that the word "please" is just as effective as spluttering random screams of injustice and treachery. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
    Please read it again DDR. Ok? Really read it this time instead of just flying off the handle as you like to do. It wasn't anti-sysop 'shit'. It's aimed directly at you and SA. By Kangaroo Court, I am referring to this so called 'discussion' which you two seem to have a vested interest in for whatever reason. I don't recall mentioning or otherwise saying anything about the other sysops other than I'd like one who's neutral to step in and bring some order to the proceedings. Then you desecrate my wiki talk page with not one, not two but three posts full of profane rants? I think you are the one who needs to go my friend. For your own health. Looking at your posts on my page, you take it waaaaay to seriously. Cheers DDR. --Hibernaculum 17:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
    It's my job to take this seriously, you parasite. Deal with it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
    Oh my good God shut the fuck up all of you. Nothing to be done! 01:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
    Happily :/ --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
  55. yes - I see yea votes from across the board. BH'ers, Survivors, and Pkers.. Yes, I was a member for a bit in the mid times. The FoD deserve it because they did make a difference in the way a lot of folks played the game. Take the BH nation for example.. I have no space for it , but just look it up.. The FoD did make a difference in the way folks play this game.--Roland 02:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
  56. Yes - Is this really being put to a vote? The FOD has had a huge influence on UD!!! --Chekken 21:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
  57. No - pretty much as Moloch. Good group, and pretty effective at what they did, but not really that historical. They haven't substantially changed the landscape of Malton, or change the way the game is played, hence the against. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
  58. Yes - Simple as that. --Thomas Hayne Cutbush 17:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
  59. Yes - Effective, good organised group, tis a shame they have disbanded. --Kooks 23:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
  60. Yes - One of the best groups i have had the pleasure of been in and part of y UD history :D --HeroSV 10:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
  61. Yes --Hibernaculum 02:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
  62. Yes -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


Wow, I have been looking through the archives of past Historical Status groups, and I must say that this one has got to be the most talked about group of them all. We have some serious NO'es with commentary , and some serious YES'es with commentary.. This is a definate... ? Sweet, this is what it should all be about.

Was the FoD that damn good? or did they just do the average Pk'er thing? Hmm..--Roland 01:53, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Result

Voting Over. At the conclusion of the vote I see 62 votes. 44 yay versus 18 nay. With a percentage of 70.1% FOD have passed the vote to become a historical group. You may all now dispute this by saying some votes were not of the allowable Yes/No format or that they are incorrectly signed or that sock puppetry was used. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I dispute this on the grounds that Harrison is a faggot.-- SA 02:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
The fact that he is a faggot isn't disputed by either side, and we allow all users to vote, regardless of their anti-god, anti-family and anti-Ameri-fuck-yeah-ca lifestyle choices. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:22, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I never said he shouldn't be allowed to vote. Him being a faggot just means his side automatically loses. :P -- SA 02:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Surprised us Nays even got that far against the raging hordes of fyayil. This is a great moment for them too. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. I say all Yay votes should be thrown out as PKers are inherently incapable of casting votes which conform to the Wiki's Expected Purposes. PKers are merely popularity-meters, and only voted because every PKer loved the Flowers of Disease. Hibernaculum, Rob Collick, and the other FoD core members were so charming to everyone they met, so outgoing with the general community, and made so many friends that their minimal impact on the game, the suburbs, and groups and people they met is ignored. All this voting is merely a measure of how many best-buds they made in their time as PKers.
This is a Sham. A mockery of the good Wiki Voting Tradition. This is a Vote Which Shall Live In Infamy!
Before someone takes this seriously, it should be noted that the FoD rarely made friends outside of necessity, made lots of people - including many PKers - very upset, gained a lot of contempt from certain PKer groups because they didn't conform to the general expectation that PKers be friendly, and forced the groups they attacked to change the way they operated on a daily basis (including one group which turned to zerging in order to defend itself) permanently. Yet those same people they upset voted Yes. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 04:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm a PKer and I didn't vote yay. So I guess that make my vote worth double or something? :S -- SA 13:31, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Haven't you tried that enough already? :S --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
DON'T YOU SEE THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSEDDDDD-- SA 14:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

The whole fucking process is a sham. I called that weeks ago. Get bent. BALLS TO THE WHALLS! --Dhavid Grohl 04:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Addendum: Aegis Tyra loves to nibble my chode, but I won't let him. Suck it Spartans, you'll get your "No" from me when you eventually pussy out just like the Shit mushrooms did. --Dhavid Grohl 04:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Mark Whalberg is a terrible actor. --Haliman - Talk 04:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Seconded. Awful person in general, really. Also the smell of butthurt hangs heavy in the air. Oh hai Grohl. Nothing to be done! 04:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't know what butthurt smells like Misanthropy, seeing as how I don't make a habit of sticking things up my anus. Why don't you enlighten us. I am sure all the ass-poundings you take from your emo friends back at brainstock leaves you thick with the stench. Here's a novel idea, how about both of you get bent.--Dhavid Grohl 12:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Dude, have you seen Invincible??!? Amazing! He's no Clint Eastwood... but... Invincible! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


The Dead

The_Dead. Let's do this and move on before the rules change. For those of you that don't know us.

The last two are the ones we are the proudest of.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 23:18, 13 June 2009 (BST)

My "the Dead" is disbanded. The Dead responsible for all of this is no more. I seriously doubt that any members of The Dead (2.0 or The Next Generation) will have any wiki presence. All of the "known" members - Katthew and well, anyone on V/B - have long since retired. The Dead will never have this kind of impact again. And if for some odd reason it does, then I will make sure the goons come up with a new name and not be assholes.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 19:17, 15 June 2009 (BST)

Yes

  1. For/Vouch/Pro etc What can I say about the dead that hasn't been said before? Creating an apocalypse in a game that is apocalyptic itself. Good times it were. Some intentions like "breaking the game" were perhaps not so noble but in the end, you provided unseen excitement in the sometimes dull city of Malton. --Thadeous Oakley 23:33, 13 June 2009 (BST)
    On a side note, wouldn't it be better to nominate the March of the Dead as a historical event? This because this group is still active and such.--Thadeous Oakley 23:35, 13 June 2009 (BST)
  2. For --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 23:45, 13 June 2009 (BST)
  3. HELL YES - The only group that ever brought challenge to the "game". DO IT AGAIN.--Zombie Lord 00:45, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  4. \o/--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:54, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  5. Yes - User:Whitehouse 01:33, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  6. Yes - duh. Also - why not nominate the March while you're at it, DCC? Linkthewindow  Talk  02:26, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  7. Yes - Whether or not their 'leaders' officially announce that The Dead are no longer active, I will always vote them for this in a heartbeat. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:11, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  8. Yes - As DDR. --Haliman - Talk 03:37, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  9. Yes - they were annoying nutcases that i would love to personally ban one-by-one and have their faces set on fire. So, when is the group becoming active again ? :) --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 04:05, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    right back at you hagnut. :) --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 19:17, 15 June 2009 (BST)
  10. Yes - There are people who play UD and don't know about you? Holy crap. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 04:19, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  11. Yes as one of the principle targets , both personally and as a member of a group, The Dead I cannot in any fashion be opposed to this nomination. It was outstanding. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 05:31, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    I'm still pissed about that DoDH workaround, you magnificent bastard!--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 19:17, 15 June 2009 (BST)
    awwwww I feel the love...wait....thats not love, THATS NOT LOVE AT ALL!!!! Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 04:11, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  12. Yes --Cyberbob 06:11, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  13. Yes - Nuff' said.--SirArgo Talk 06:35, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  14. Yes - It had over 2000 members at one point, didn't it? Any group with over 2000 members is historical, in my opinion.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:32, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  15. Yes --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:40, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  16. Yes - Bad times, man. Bad times. You have my vote. But is The Dead no longer active...? o_O --Met Fan F 18:56, 15 June 2009 (BST)
  17. Yes.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 00:28, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  18. Yes --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 14:47, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  19. Yes -- J.I 13:23, 17 June 2009 (BST)
  20. Yes -- One of the most well known groups ever. Almost as historical as Caiger itself. --RahrahCome join the #party!18:32, 17 June 2009 (BST)
  21. Strong Yes --Pyrranha 22:16, 18 June 2009 (BST)
  22. Yes - come back Sanpedro 07:53, 19 June 2009 (BST)
  23. Yes - I Love you Cisisero 08:58, 19 June 2009 (BST)
  24. Yes - I don't know why this has taken so long. --Labine50 MEMS | MHG 17:30, 21 June 2009 (BST)
  25. Yep - Cheese 00:38, 24 June 2009 (BST)

No

  1. No - Fails crit 1 "Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game." Perhaps you can vote yes on historical event status for the March of The Dead.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 01:38, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    Both you and HonestMistake are retarded. the dead leadership cannot get all of their 1500 members to remove their tags. The group is dead but the characters are still used by players. Criteria 1 does not mean active characters but active groups. The group is not active. Kill yourself. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 03:05, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    So, a group's official, or "defacto" leader decides whether or not that group exists, without regard to the remaining 249 members? I didn't get that memo. Prior to killing myself I think that point should be clearly defined, since the only real question on The Dead's historical status is whether or not they are "active". --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 04:25, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    I bet there are still members that have The Dead of Dunell Hills tags (less than 10). But basically, I was the leader during the March. I say the group is dissolved as far as the wiki is concerned.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 18:04, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  2. yes and no Certainly one of the biggest things ever to happen to the game and certainly worthy of inclusion... On the other hand Historical Groups are supposed to be defunct so technically the Dead are unlikely to become historical in that sense.--Honestmistake 01:43, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Vouch, but needs Crit 1 - As Giles. They deserve historical status, but currently have too many members still acting, or at least with "The Dead" in their group tags. --Private Mark 01:55, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    To all three of you, it has been kind of decided that if the leader of the group officially disbands a group, it's considered defunct. That's what DCC is doing, as he's the defacto leader of The Dead. The group is done, it's just that people aren't going to idle out or stop wearing a name tag just because a group is done. Hell, Ghetto Cow had something like 15 or so people on the stats page still when we went up for historical because our members were too lazy or too stubborn to remove the tag. But because Lach nominated it, it was considered defunct.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:05, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    The Angel has spoken. Any large group is going to leave splinter groups and remnants behind once it collapses, and one as large as The Dead was makes an even bigger imprint. That The Dead's remnants still consistently rank as the top 1 or 2 placed groups on the Stats Page is testament to their worthiness for Historical Status. The only single group that ever brought down the Wrath of Kevan. 90% Syringe search rates for God's sake. I was expecting crucifixes to suddenly gain powers and witness Survivors REPELLING zombies with cries of "The Power of Kevan Compels You!". All this from a single group. If these guys don't deserve Historical Status, no one does.--Zombie Lord 02:25, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Making a group that is still the largest in the game, historical? Hysterical. Active? Always will be -- boxy talkteh rulz 04:24 14 June 2009 (BST)
    You're just pissed because we got you voted out and Grim voted in as Crat. It's ok. Maybe you should ask Iscariot what to think? --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 18:07, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    It's not exactly the same group. When they had 1,500 members, it was something totally different that Malton had never seen before. I don't know, maybe we can have some kind of protected historical event page dedicated to their flood or something. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 04:26, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    I'd vote for it if a page was created to document what the Dead was pre-2009. As it is now, the page is of almost no historical interest though -- boxy talkteh rulz 04:33 14 June 2009 (BST)
    Well, thing is, that page has no relevance to the current Dead - it mostly shows stats from the first major Dead uprising. Even then, it's through links and not directly on the page. Hence, why I'm for making that page historical (maybe moving it as well) and possibly asking a Dead authorized Wiki denizen to make a more relevant page about the current active group. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 05:23, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    No current active Dead member will touch this shithole wiki. The mark we left on the wiki (our talk pages, our various VB cases, our policy that KEVAN himself had to veto to kill, etc.) those are more meaningful than an article forced to be neutral and still reflect our group.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 18:04, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    Giles is right, the whole idea of having the de facto leader say "GROUP DISBANDED" when they are still remenants shows to me that The Dead isn't, well, dead. That being said, if you just wait for a few more months, and that wiki page doesn't get updated, then I can be assured that The Dead will remain Dead, and I'll change it to vouch.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 06:22, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    The page has been locked for over a year, numbnuts. We didn't even create it in the first place. Ask old Connie about that mess. But clearly, this wait and see idea is stellar.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 18:04, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    Alright fine. But don't insult the voter.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 00:27, 16 June 2009 (BST)
    Why not? You've already voted against him, he has no obligation to impress you. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:18, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  5. fuck no----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 08:17, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  6. tevs. mehvs.--xoxo 10:01, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    What's the phrase? Thank you for your input Fuck off.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 14:04, 17 June 2009 (BST)
  7. no Still having double the numbers of others groups doesn't make them inactive. Besides, I thought the dead were against a big wiki prescence. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:05, 14 June 2009 (BST)
    We aren't on the wiki anymore. Just me. You all suck. But this is a test to see if the wiki is really about UD or about you asshole users (not you ross so much) that just want to use it to stroke your lame ass RP fantasies. There is no fucking denying that the Dead changed the whole game, but if they don't get historical status because of some shitstain policy that should kill any last thought that this wiki is really about UD. If the ONLY group that has ever had an impact in EVERY SUBURB gets denied then seriously stop pretending this wiki is about UD. Go back to posting your lame ass *sips beer, loads shotgun*--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 18:04, 14 June 2009 (BST)
  8. Get the ef out! Ain't no way I'm having a group which 'caused me a good promotion bid go historical! NEVER!!! NOT IN A MILLION EFFIN' YEARS!!! This is revenge for pissing me off and forcing me to drop out of the promotion run!!! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs (status:Mudkip!) 00:32, 16 June 2009 (BST)
    You couldn't handle a little drama and yet you still think you would have made a good sysop? I'm pretty sure we weren't the cause of your crash and burn.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 14:04, 17 June 2009 (BST)
    Hm...Let's see. Who was it that started all this nonsense before I got pissed? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs (status:Mudkip!) 19:32, 18 June 2009 (BST)
    is babby hungry? --Cyberbob 01:07, 24 June 2009 (BST)
  9. no I have read all the arguments above and im not convinced, in the eyes of the "originals" the group may be inactive yet there are still many tagged as this group who are not idle. Whether they have any cohesive strategy is debatable and I think requires further discussion.--C Whitty 09:11, 16 June 2009 (BST)
    My The Dead practically ruined the game in 2 months. This The Dead hasn't even taken down a mall in over a year. I think those two "groups" are quite different. Hell, this The Dead can't even keep DHPD out of DH. We did it with a skeleton crew. These aren't the same groups. --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 14:04, 17 June 2009 (BST)
    I recognise your points but what do the current "The Dead" think of your above statements - if they agree then this sways me, has anyone been in contact with them to ask their opinion/ does anyone have their details so that I may?--C Whitty 16:43, 17 June 2009 (BST)
  10. no I gotta go with boxy on this one. Asheets 23:17, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  11. no --Doctor Oberman MBEK 20:00, 18 June 2009 (BST)
  12. No -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 00:32, 21 June 2009 (BST)
  13. Conditional No - Not truly inactive yet, although the leadership clearly is.--Violet Begonia Dean MCM MOB 17:16, 3 July 2009 (BST) the 2 weeks of voting were already up -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:28 12 August 2009 (BST)

Voting closed with 25 for and 12 against, 68% for. Nomination successful -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:28 12 August 2009 (BST)

(This vote was archvied by Nubis at 14:17, July 5, 2009)

Zom/historical

Pro-Survivor group Zom was started by no real leader, but by a board called /zom/ on a certain website. Starting in late 2006, /zom/ has grown over the years and hit a peak of 160 active members, becoming part of the top 3 groups of Urban Dead. Looking at the /zom/ wiki, you can see that /zom/ has embarked on many endeavors to save Malton from the zombie rapscallions.

Just a few of many things we are proud of being a part of is The Fight to Hold Ackland Mall, reclaiming Southall Mansion and calling it our own, and entering the top 3 groups of UD with 160 active members.

I believe /zom/ deserves the historical status on the Urban Dead wiki because every one of the /zom/ members have fought a good fight, possibly changing Malton for the better, and it would be an honor if we got historical status for all our hard work over the years.

Please vote and tell us what you think. --Hkl.png.Ryanon.Tophat.png [Talk] [HKL] [/zom/] [Red Rum] 21:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes (Zom)

  1. Yes One of the funnest groups I've ever had the pleasure of working together with, /zom/ knew how to survive with style --Steven Cooper 04:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yes. /zom/ was a truly fun group to be with.--Hkl.png.Ryanon.Tophat.png [Talk] [HKL] [/zom/] [Red Rum] 21:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yes - A very rare yes from me, not only was it big enough that it existing alone had an impact it's one of the few survivor groups I frequently ran into as a zombie. --Karekmaps?! 22:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes /zom/ has made a very large impact in Urban Dead and deserve to be historical. --Speels 22:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yes As per Karek --Agent Sandman 22:42 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yes Definite yes vote from me. Not only did /zom/ do a lot to aid the survivor cause, but they were a hell of a lot of fun. They're still on the stats page, but their core membership has died, and their IRC channel has died. They definitely deserve recognition. Hardcore Rockabilly, Retired FAE Axes High AH RR RRF 22:46 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. Yes ^ Pretty much that. ^ They did a lot for the game, the stats page is more or less irrelevant. If I switch my group tags to "The Caiger Resistance Front" does that mean they aren't historical anymore?--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 23:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Can't believe I'm voting yes... xD --Haliman - Talk 23:30, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yes - What can I say?... They were fun even if I was not part of them.--LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 23:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Labine threatened to sap my sentry if I voted no. Oh, and they were a fun group. RisenJihad MEMS DORIS 00:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. Yes - I knew the /zom/ board before I knew UD. Liberty 00:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Although not as active recently, there were several historic events. /zom/ helped to maintain Ackland for the more than week it was it was occupied. --S Buick 00:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  13. Yes - I agree with all the remarks and have decided for Yes :) --humanstyle 00:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Hilarious group, deserve to be remembered --Urgggggggh 01:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  15. Yes - I heard about /zom/ before te DEM. They had "XP orgies" and were very organized about organizing them, explaining what they were, and warned people that accidentally walked into them. I'm not sure if I would vote them as historical though; aren't they still active? Pakopako 02:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  16. Yes - I've heard of them, and spoken to some of them, and like what they've done. Let's not let the records disappear. --FT MCI 02:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  17. Yes - Nigga please, if you didn't hear of /zom/ when we was rolling down our hood near our Ackland and all them busta-ass zeds come hating on us ballas then by jove good sir, it would seem that you have missed quite a spot of fun, we've had glorious adventures, training, members, tea, crumpets and style. /zom/ maybe be dead, but we shall always keep our monocle polished. AnonBorgTech001 03:16, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  18. Yes I renmember them from the early days... Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 04:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  19. Yes Yes Much fun was had with them. I started UD because of them - Noahsan 22:53, 21 January 2009
  20. Yes - A name with impressive reputation - Stephen Krantz 08:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  21. Yes - heard of them many times, seen them during my travels through Malton, and read their group's wiki.
  22. They worked good, during historical battles too, their efforts met success and their labor deserves reward !
    IMHO : lets make zom an historical group  !
    Lets be grateful toward all those people who participated in Urban Dead community's fun !
    --Lifecultist 13:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
    Yes - They have taken part in many battles against the zombie hoard -- John RopeTimestampless vote struck Linkthewindow  Talk  14:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  23. Yes - Why not? They qualify, I believe, & they certainly had an effect on Malton, especially in the western regions. They were a big help in many sieges at Ackland Mall, and I liked the way they did things. They always seemed helpful and very practical, to me. --Jsrbrunty 16:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  24. Yes - They had a marked effect on the security of the western suburbs, but more than that they proved that an organized group without a specific leader could flourish, something that I hadn't witnessed before. LK Oddjob 18:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  25. Yes - I never knew them personally, but I have seen the fruits of their labor. They deserve recognition.--Claude Garrison 02:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  26. Yes - There were many sieges and operations and they were all fun. The fact that some had a big effect is even better. --Sods 20090123 21:55 EST
    Question: Didn't there used to be criteria (changed the way the game was played, etc.) for making it into this category? I don't see it anymore. --Paddy Dignam 04:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  27. Yes - From the start, /zom/ dove into Shearbank headfirst, unable to tell its ass from its head. Though its reputation and first impressions were shaky-the few willing to control the group struggled to keep its collective minds from running amok-they still gave their best effort into coexisting with their fellow survivors. There were many accusing fingers pointed toward their top hats. Conflict and suspicions had arisen by the dozen. However, the majority of the group always had good intentions in mind. After /zom/ finally gave up on living peacefully in Shearbank, they uprooted and made their way to Southall. When The Dead rose, they stood and fought against The Dead's many faces. Their history was littered with mall sieges and general pro-survival help efforts. They put efficiency first, and bragging second. As they had no idea who to boast about their efforts to, their roles in many of the sieges became almost invisible. Their members were faceless, and their numbers too many to count. They made their contributions, even if you didn't see them. They were a group that had fun whenever it had the chance, but it didn't fuck around when someone needed help.--Parkourartist 05:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  28. Yes - They were cool. --dgw 15:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  29. Yes - Never saw them in action, but I've heard stories. By all accounts, truly an epic group. -- RogerCasey 17:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  30. Yes - Worthy of commemoration, saw several of their members help out in Yagoton (as well as murder people for no apparent reason). You will be sorely missed. --Private Mark 18:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  31. Yes - Wether you saw them in action or not, tophats blazing, they are truly a group worthy of historic status. --Kazaha 04:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  32. Yes - Cool peoples. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 05:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  33. Yes - Even if they originated from certain place, they still fought brve battles against The Dead Janjones 14:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  34. Yes - Great group that was full of extremely helpful people. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 02:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
  35. Yes – Epic hilarity. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
  36. Yes - /zom/ was one of the most fun groups I've ever had the pleasure seeing in action. Their history is one littered with epic struggles and aid to the survivor cause. I will miss them very much. BurningBright23 22:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
  37. Yes - obvious yes is obvious. -- amagicalhobo
  38. Yes - /zom/ was such a classy group. We will miss them terribly.--Megameh 20:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
  39. Yes - I'd heard of them quite a many times. Yes vote has been voted. YoHoho 05:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  40. Yes - A name that should be remembered. --D.E.ATalk 18:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  41. Yes - Yes. --Ryzak Black 19:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
    Yes - Fuck yeah, I chilled with the guys back in Shearbank, they're good peeps.--ScouterTX 17:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC) Voting deadline passed. Sorry. -- Cheese 17:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

No (Zom)

  1. NO No noticeable impact anywhere nor any major contributions to the game. There was nothing historical about this group. --Johnny Bass 21:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. No --Never heard of them anywhere.--SirArgo Talk 22:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. No. - Edited vote: Not important or significant beyond being relatively big. I'm removing the part about their activity because apparently the wiki image change is enough to constitute their retirement, but they should really try adding some text to indicate that they actually are shutting down. --Papa Moloch 23:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. No - Moloch has it. While i did knew Zom/, i never heard about them doing anything ingame. Being a big group is not enough to warrant historical status. --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talkcontribs) at 23:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  5. No - they didnt impact me, so therefore, not historic--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  6. No - As far as I'm concerned that had /z/ero impact, /z/ero importance, /z/ero historicity. Unlike some, I almost never saw them, except a couple who'd mill around Southall Mansion. Meh. --WanYao 00:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. No - Being big doesn't mean being automatically historical. I never saw them, except on the wiki and the stats page. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  8. No - Never even heard of them. --Pyrranha 02:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. No - As above. --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 07:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  10. No - Old and big does not equal historical. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 08:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. NO - as above, more so because Labine50 voted Yes----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 14:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  12. No seems like I missed out on the fun as I had honestly never heard of them before!--Honestmistake 14:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  13. No - I've seen them on the wiki and in-game, but I do not think that their contributions merit historical status. --ZsL 02:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  14. FFFFFUUUUUU- - they came from 7chan... faggots--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 01:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  15. No - Who? --Hibernaculum 21:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  16. No - Like that guy said, who? I sightly recognise the name, from somewher, but historical? No way.--Ryvyoli Y R 07:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
  17. No - A larger group shows up en masse and causes friction through misunderstanding with established groups and players? Uh, PTT did that years before /zom/. They basically gave the same experience point building drills most groups put their members through and called it an "xp orgy." The only thing surprising is they thought they were doing something original. They had ambitious plans to make various "landmarks" their HQ and ultimately failed in short order ... also nothing new. /Zom/ were funny, but they in no way matched the ULC. They thought they were something, but so doesn't every group. If someone can point to a specific event or, even better, tradition or tradition they're responsible for I'll change my vote, but everything here just reads like another outside game group showing up and being basically tourists for a summer. Nice of them to stop by, but no need for a monument. The group that came by a few months later and joined as a few thousand almost game breaking zombies, they were historic.--The Envoy 15:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  18. No - I normally don't vote unless I've seen a group in action in-game, but I'm making an exception based on Zom's own justification above. As Iscariot said, being old and big doesn't merit historical status, nor does taking part in a mall siege (actually, I'd be more impressed if they'd never been involved in one of those). They seem like good eggs, though, and I wish them well. --Paddy Dignam 02:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
  19. No - Who--Dr. Sinclair 17:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Voting Over - 41 For to 19 Against, giving 60 total votes and 68% majority. Nomination accepted. -- Cheese 17:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
    With the return of a group by this name, the historical page was moved to Zom/historical -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:38 12 August 2009 (BST)

Eastonwood Ferals

What do you want? An essay? If you don't know who they are or why they deserve historical status then you've only been playing a week or never left your fort.

  1. Yes - I nominated them... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:23, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes - Unlike most groups who have this honour conveyed upon them, these guys deserve it in a major way. One of the greatest groups in the history of Malton. --Papa Moloch 20:40, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - One the deadliest, most effective and most respected zombie groups out there. EF kept Easton' red and completely uninhabitable for breathers for about 2 years. They were active in the entire NW sector, and were an integral part of the Mall Tours and many other events and "happenings". EF are one of the most historical and accomplished UD groups. EVER. And they will be very sorely missed in UD. Rest in pieces, EF. --WanYao 20:41, 25 September 2008 (BST)
    I'd like to add that, as far as I'm concerned, EF mastered and perfected several tactics that are commonplace now -- e.g., using pinatas as a strategy rather than just a random tactic, and organised zombie-squatting (aka Salt the Land). For many months they also kept the only record, in their "almanac", dealing with levels of ruin/decay -- a resource used by everybody. The list could go on. EF are not "Historical," nor even just "pioneering": they are Legendary. --WanYao 20:56, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes - You're kidding right? Few groups are as deserving, or have had as fearsome a reputation. Just do it, k? Thanks! -- Bisfan 20:51, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes - Being one of the first major hordes I fought against as a survivor, these guys will always have a soft spot in my heart. May their memory unlive on forever. -- Cheese 20:58, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  6. TOTALLY YES -Such a great group and one of the older zombie groups. Their dedication to keeping Eastenwood totally ruined (most of the buildings there scored some insanely high ruins), involvement in both bashes and mall tours, their ability to get along with everyone, and their great projects like the 10K club have given the game much flavor it otherwise wouldn't have. If anyone deserves historical status its them. They will be very much missed. --Zoey Zarg 20:59, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes - I am back on the wiki for this edit only. Yes, they were such a great group, its very sad they're gone.--KOOKY 21:16, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  8. Absolutely - This is terrible news, but at least they can be remembered. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 21:20, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  9. Yes -- This is a well duh sort of thing. Pound for pound the most effective zombie horde in UD (and I include LUE and Shacknews on that count). -- Murray Jay Suskind 21:23, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes -- many A time have they eaten my brains. may they be remembered for it.--'BPTmz 21:26, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes - No doubt about it in my mind. On behalf of my former horde (who had the pleasure of working with them last year), I saLUEte the EF.--DJ Deadbeat 21:28, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes - Without question one of the most [if not the most] effective horde in UD, heroes to the zombie cause and harbingers of death for the survivors. Well deserved, and the nomation says it all, if you don't think so then you should leave your fort more often. --TouchingVirus 21:44, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes - They were as good as it gets.--Panthera 22:10, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  14. Yep - The most unanimous historical-group-vote evar? --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 22:12, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes - I've rarely even gone near Eastonwood and word of their accomplishments has still reached my ears. They've earned a reputation as one of the most fearsome and effective zombie groups in the game. --Lejes 22:22, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - Fuck yes, one of the most legendary zombie groups ever.--Drawde Talk To Me! DORIS Red Rum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing! 22:40, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes - Farewell, Eastonwood Ferals. You were a force to be reckoned with and the hordes (or the harmanz) won't forget you.Petite Fille 23:16, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  18. ZOMG YES! - Bobs Aturd 00:04, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  19. Yes - Go with Barhah. --Insomniac By Choice 00:50, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  20. Aye - no doubt. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 02:14, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  21. Yes - I'd vote no just because Papa hasnt shown me any lovin recently, but that wouldnt do EF justice. --Gus ThomasSpartaZHU 02:44, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  22. Yes --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 02:52, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - A big hell yeah! A plaque should be erected so Papa's can show the youngun's and tell the tale of the Legend that was The Eastonwood Ferals. -- Taecsmall.jpg DirtManT|FU|StäV 03:21, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  24. Yes WHAT????? the EF is gone? Holy shit.... Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 03:32, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  25. Yes - The last of our original and best foes finally laid to rest. Everyone here at the Abandoned will miss you. --Private Mark 03:36, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  26. Yes - Farwell EF...Like Private Mark said we of Abandoned will definitely miss the fun of always having you at our door step. --Deltherian 03:50, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  27. Yes - It's sad to see such an incredible group retire. However, the are more than qualified to be known as a historical group. --ZsL 03:53, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  28. Yes – A terrifying and awfully fun horde. They will be missed. !zanbah Barhah! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:55, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  29. Yes - I've heard a bit about these guys, though I've never kept up with any groups other than my own. The bit I've heard is great, they'll be missed for sure. Goodbye, Eastonwood Ferals. Your presence will be missed by new and old alike. --Zorinth 06:08, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  30. hells yeah ---Bullgod 09:33, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  31. Yes - It's sad they've gone--Kristi of the Dead 09:38, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  32. Yes DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:22, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  33. YES MAXIMUM RESPECT. Quite possibly the only group of people who could put up with my hyperactivity. By the way, I've made an edited version of their template. Feel free to use it, you'll find it on my page. The man 12:17, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  34. Yes - Kept life interesting in Yagoton, to boot. --MorthBabid 14:55, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  35. Yes - They kept a whole suburb devived, so definitely a yes. --ZuluDeacon 17:35, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  36. Yes - Voting is just a formality. --Lardass 18:32, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  37. Yes - They will be missed by all groups, survivor and zed. --Survior454 18:37, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  38. Yes? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:46, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  39. Absolutely - *wipes away tear* !zanbah will never be the same. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 19:01, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  40. Yes - Is it considered bad form to vote for ones own group. If so sorry about that. I was with EF from the beginning I was active for them in wiki editing until real life called me away and I couldn't give it my all anymore. I'm happy about the responses of the page here and happy for all the good times I had. --Foxfire 19:41, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  41. Yes - I definitely nominate them. A bad an awfully wonderful group! hehe --Alias81 20:00, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  42. Yes - Sorry to see another zombie group go. And this was one of the best. --Priapus 20:29, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  43. Yes. Their overall group actions and activity are historical.--MisterGame 23:27, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  44. Yes - I've been active two months, and nowhere near Eastonwood, but even I've heard of these guys. --Target Practice 23:36, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  45. Yes - As per the above user. Probably one of the most famous hordes in Malton (on par with the RRF.) Linkthewindow 01:25, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  46. Yes Zombie groups never die. They just stand up. Okay, that doesn't really make any sense, but I still say Yes! --Silisquish
  47. YES --/\Haliman/\ T | P! | W! 04:32, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  48. Uhm, 'Duh?' - It's obvious. I daresay they're one of the best zombie groups when they were around, and it's sad to see them go. No, really. Glenstone 04:54, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  49. Yes, sure --~~~~ [talk] 10:47, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  50. Yes --LOLosaurus 15:31, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  51. Yes - User:Whitehouse 16:43, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  52. Yes - I don't even need to justify this vote. --JaredV 18:00, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  53. Yes - NON-CONFORMISM LOL--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 19:12, 27 September 2008 (BST)
    You're an asshole not funny, Labine. --WanYao 19:50, 27 September 2008 (BST)
    Fair enough, changing vote.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 23:43, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  54. Yes They were a model group. BARHAH --Camperdave 19:54, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  55. Yes, no explanation required. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 23:45, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  56. No - because this vote needed one, for margin of error.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:15, 28 September 2008 (BST)
  57. Yes Historical. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:32, 28 September 2008 (BST)
  58. Yes Just yes, the EFs were a tough group and made Eastonwood into an infamous deathtrap for the entirety of their existence, well-worth noting them. --Garviel LokenMaltesecross2.jpgNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk18:46, 28 September 2008 (BST)
  59. No - Who? :< --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 19:50, 28 September 2008 (BST)

Passed 57 for 2 against 96.6% Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 00:16, 29 September 2008 (BST)


Drunken Dead

Founded in October 2005, the Drunken Dead were one of the best known zombie groups in northeast Malton. As with the FotFL, they primarily inhabited Pescodside, but were known to spread havoc in the surrounding suburbs. Known for their "drinking binges" (of death) the DD were the deadliest threat the suburb knew and proved a challenge to local survivors. It was only after the zombie group's number dwindled and the group itself faded from UD (as it was never formally disbanded) that survivors managed to regain control of Pescodside.

While my stance has always been pro-survivor, I would be remitant in my duties to the UD Wiki if I did not support showcasing the Drunken Dead and their important role in Pescodside's local history, if not that of northeast Malton.

  1. Yes - They were a strong zombie group that terrorized northeast Malton. They deserve to be remembered for their efforts. --Mobius 14:11, 20 August 2008 (BST)
  2. No - Never heard of them. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:17, 20 August 2008 (BST)
    Of course youve never heard of them, they disbanded more than a year before you joined the community. As for the group itself. I formed and led them for a while, but i was skating on the edge of a burnout at the time. Ive never sought historical status for them, and i dont particularly care now (Hence my not voting). I might try and get in touch with Edith, whom i left in charge when i left and tell her about this, but otherwise i dont really care. --The Grimch U! E! 14:39, 20 August 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - I have fleeting memories of them when I first joined Urban Dead, strange because they were apparently inactive by then. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:04, 21 August 2008 (BST)
  4. Fuck Yea - --Bullgod 06:49, 21 August 2008 (BST)
  5. No, because i find it hard to believe there were ever zombies in Pesky and because democracy shouldn't work.--xoxo 07:50, 21 August 2008 (BST)
    We did venture down into Pescoside to help out the Bela Lugosi Fan Club (A smaller, but no less cool group), but mostly we sat in the northern half of dulston knocking over the PD's and NT's. Our last act in Dulston before leaving was taking down the mall with the Mall Tour. --The Grimch U! E! 19:48, 21 August 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - for one thing, excactly because it's so hard to believe now that zombies once terrorised the NE, their example and their inspiration ought to enshrined and immortalised. and, they did a pub crawl back in 2005. and... just take a look at the page... --WanYao 08:01, 21 August 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes - If history doesn't preserve them, what will? --Insomniac By Choice 11:07, 21 August 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes - --N00bert foxhound 18:45, 21 August 2008 (BST)
  9. Yes - old school, classic, classy what more could you ask for? It's a shame they're gone--Kristi of the Dead 14:57, 22 August 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes - Which should say something considering I almost never give out Yeses.--Karekmaps?! 18:32, 22 August 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes Most certainly... Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 15:29, 24 August 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes We must not forget the work of our drunken forefathers in Malton. Ottari DA PDA NW Read the Dispatch! 16:53, 24 August 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes I told you to put this group up for Historical Voting! LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 17:40, 24 August 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes --/\Haliman/\ T | P! | W! 17:43, 24 August 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes I like them already. --Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|01:19, 2 September 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - They deserve it, truly unique and a group that broke ground for many others to try and imitate. -- Taecsmall.jpg DirtManT|FU|StäV 20:51, 5 September 2008 (BST)

Passed 14 For 2 Against 87.5% 13:41, 7 September 2008 (BST)

Crossman Defense Force

Crossman Defense Force (the 'other' CDF) has had a long and varied history since its inception in Fall of 2005. It has been one of the oldest continuously operating groups in the game. While we have fought alongside survivors for the duration of our existence, we have participated in the First, Second and Third Sieges of Caiger Mall. We have also defended at the Battle of Blackmore as well as many other smaller skirmishes, mainly those in and around the northwest corner. We have always had a presence in Darvall Heights as well as the surrounding suburbs. We have been an enemy and a friend to our splintered faction, the Liberation of Crossman Department. The Crossmen have always welcomed survivors in their path.

The exploits of our former leader and my predecessor, Amazing, will be remembered for years to come. Amazing led to the direct creation of GANKBUS, Assault on Stupid Survivors and The Faggots, three notorious griefer groups in-game. Amazing changed how the wiki was used, for the better AND worse, and the Crossmen became a target because of it. I have tried, in my time as leader, to distance our group from such tactics and resolve conflicts peacefully. Our spiritual home, Crossman Grove Police Dept., has been the scene of turmoil and conflict for some time.

Now the time has come for the Crossmen to embark toward the sunset in order to explore new directions. I hope to achieve historical status for Crossman Defense Force to show others the conflict, strife and perseverance of one of the oldest groups around, not to mention the impacts our members had on the game.

Thank You for your support. --Zod Rhombus 20:31, 5 July 2008 (BST)


  1. Yes - Author vote if allowed. --Zod Rhombus 20:31, 5 July 2008 (BST)
  2. No - Ye gods. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 20:57, 5 July 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - I voted yes because Zod is a good guy and I trust him.--Xan2020 21:32, 5 July 2008 (BST)
    Not because of anything to do with the faction, of course. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 00:25, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    If only I trusted people that easily. I have reviewed the facts in detail. I am by no means an idiot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xan2020 (talkcontribs) .
    Nice job splitting my sig up, you fucking mong. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 03:56, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    I'm sorry, I'm just not good with wiki formatting. No need to be rude.--Xan2020 04:13, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Cyberbob is one of the local trolls, xan, no need to apologize to him or even pay attention for whatever comes out of his mouth. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk 04:20, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Hagnat is one of the failed sysops who couldn't take the pressure of his own constant fuck-ups, xan, no need to actually give a shit. (By the way, Haggy, weren't you going to go find a life or something?) --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 04:49, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Take it to the talk pages folks. This is not the place. --Zod Rhombus 05:46, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Yeah. Hagnat is the failed sysop, Cyberbob... DanceDanceRevolution 06:05, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Damn straight he is. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 10:40, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Cyberbob never got his chance, people couldn't get over the fact that someone like him could be a successful Sysop... fucktard...--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 02:24, 7 July 2008 (BST)
    I'll call the whambulance... I didn't know I hit a nerve :P DanceDanceRevolution 01:23, 14 July 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes - many groups created to harass this group (its leaders, specially). It was a well known group in 2005 and early 2006, and faded from public in the latter years... --People's Commissar Hagnat talk 01:07, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes - They were at Blackmore, so that's good enough for me.--Dedling 23:50, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - One of the oldest and still active groups. Hatama 02:07, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    If it is still active then its something it should NOT be voted 'yes' for. DanceDanceRevolution 06:05, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    Not active. I am the leader and I am disbanding the group. --Zod Rhombus 06:20, 6 July 2008 (BST)
    I thought Amazing was leader... --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 06:38, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  7. No --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 06:36, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes - Well-known enough --Sir Bob Fortune RR 11:11, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  9. Yes - Deserving. And notice the green, warty skin of the no-voters... Damn their regeneration powers!!! --WanYao 13:56, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes - Absolutely. We shared same roots even though we split ways. We shared together many operations, defended Darvall Heights many times together when LCD was still operating West-North. As both allies and enemies, CDF have shown to me their tenacity, dedication and will to fight the good fight. DarthRevan 18:44, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes - I remember these guys from two years ago. --Scorpios 19:54, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 22:45, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes - I remember hearing about these guys and I almost never go up North.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 02:10, 7 July 2008 (BST)
  14. No - North is for Extinction, not some willy-nilly survivor group that is only famous cause of Amazing--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 02:24, 7 July 2008 (BST)
  15. No - Never heard of you - THELORDGUNSLINGER 03:35, 7 July 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - Good group worthy of historical status.--Lord Wulfgar 04:40, 7 July 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes - As all the resounding "yes's" above. We shall be sorry to see you go, but the CDF are in definite need of historical status. --Private Mark 05:09, 7 July 2008 (BST)
  18. Yes Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 06:58, 7 July 2008
  19. Yes Everything said above summaries it why I vote yes. Extinction can kiss my ass. --Johnny Rico 13:25, 7 July 2008 (BST)
  20. Yes Wow, end of an era... they've been around since almost the beginning... I vote Yes... --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 02:17, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  21. No - Didn't do anything Historical, being an old group does not mean automatic historical status.--KOOKY 16:11, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  22. Yes- This group was a bit before my time but it's obviously historical. --Moctezuma 18:04, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - Never liked or respected them much but they were well known enough to qualify. --Riseabove 01:01, 9 July 2008 (BST)
  24. No - I have never heard of them but i suggest they get one more year before getting that status. -- Gorfox 7:05, 8 July 2008 (CST)
  25. Yes 2005 and still activish is good enough for me. --Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|02:22, 9 July 2008 (BST)
  26. Yes - Allies, enemies, doesn't matter much to me. All I know they are here from almost the very begining, they did the job good and fought well. If it wasn't for moronic griefers, this group would have been in it's prime now, me thinks. If it wasn't for LCD, I would have been a CDF. Viva Darvall Heights. Quoting someone "sometimes something is historical just for the sake of being old", not only that, they deserve it. --Sev 07 14:29, 9 July 2008 (BST)
  27. Yes - 2005-2008 is enough for me. --BoboTalkClown 01:09, 10 July 2008 (BST)
  28. Yes I really don't like Zod, but the group did a good job. --MadMoneyMike 02:38, 10 July 2008 (BST)
  29. Yes - I heard of the group. I might have seen some of their work. They're worthy for historical status. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:45, 10 July 2008 (BST)
  30. Yes - Why Not. --The Candy Man 11:45 July 2008
  31. Yes --Karekmaps?! 17:46, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  32. Yes, heard of them. - User:Whitehouse 18:48, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  33. Yes -  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  10:06, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  34. Pass--Zaphord 06:29, 21 July 2008 (BST)

Passed 29 Affirmative, 5 Negative (85.2%) Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 11:16, 21 July 2008 (BST)

Flat Earth Society

The Flat Earth Society has come to an end after over a year and a half of bringing Truths to Malton that no one else would. The FEZ stands unique in the history of Malton, being the only group to have educated about the perils of flouridation, barcodes, and of course the lies that people so readily accept about the shape of the Earth. With allies and enemies, generally interchangeable, that span the range from the Dulston Alliance to the Philosophe Knights, we have spread our message from one corner of the city to the other, and points in between. Our colorful history with the rest of Malton ranges from boasting the only member of the Council of Leaders to have been elected and then summarily impeached to having Uncle Zeddie defend our good name. -- Bartemius 01:25, 16 June 2008 (BST)

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  1. Yes - Naturally I believe my own nomination is worthy of a historical place. --Bartemius 01:43, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  2. Yesh - :D --/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 01:45, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - we nominate the Historical Groups for Flat Earth Society Status (as is our duty as leaders). --The Supreme Court reads Daily Ruminations 01:45, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  4. Yesse - 'Tis the end of an era... my group has had many dealings with the FEZ, from the peaceful to the not-so-peaceful. But I learned a lot from the group- about AP efficiency, bar codes, and of course the importance of family. It is also notable that the FEZ initiated the first siege of the supreme court- losses were heavy, on both sides, but in the end we were all saved by a helicopter. I mean... they. They were all saved by a helicopter. The point is, since I met these guys, not once have I used a zipper. They were also deemed KOS by the Dulston Alliance, and widely regarded as a PKer group, in spite of not technically being one. And with the high level of objectivity, and standards of evidence, enforced by the Dulston Alliance- that was indeed historical. Surely, they were the only group in history to be so wildly mis-categorized.--ØxØ 01:54, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes - I always felt a bit like their leader. --the wallaby 01:56, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  6. Aye - As leader of the Flat Earth Society, I am in favor. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:07, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes - Where would Malton be without Susie and some flair? As for impact Dulston Alliance and the P.Knights (Sp?) with such a rocky relationship --Virus002 03:24, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes - Plaudite, amici, comedia finita est. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 07:40, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  9. Most Certainly - The most Ignorant, Backwards group in Malton, and one of the most memorable for their antics. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 15:48, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  10. Yea Verily Yea --Vandr 18:41, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes - one thousand times, yes. -- Fingersmith 18:59, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes[Keep] - Nerfs Non-Pkers. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 04:19, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes --Pibbit 06:35, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes - You made me throw away my radios. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 07:14, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes - Worthy. --WanYao 07:18, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - For all the reasons stated above. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:18, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes - A vote against is a vote for bar codes! --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 16:53, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  18. Yip Although i did vote for Ron Burgundys Pacman in Malton Suggestion.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:03, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  19. YUSS --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 17:26, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  20. yes --Sir WV 01:09, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  21. No--Luke Skywalker 16:50, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  22. Indeed -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 22:31, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - Pretty funny group. --ZsL 00:13, 19 June 2008 (BST)
  24. Yes - Great group. Throws a hell of a good party.--KF 20:29, 21 June 2008 (BST)
  25. Sure Why not? ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|00:06, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  26. Yes - Great group with many many many great leaders :P --Jellofun 04:29, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  27. Yus - ogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogog --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 18:17, 24 June 2008 (BST)
  28. Sí (Yes) - ¡Más vale cholo, que malo acompañado!  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  18:29, 24 June 2008 (BST)
  29. Yes - --Cyles 11:20, 1 July 2008 (BST)

Passed 28 For 1 Against (97 %) Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 06:34, 2 July 2008 (BST)



Liberation of Crossman Department

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Our story starts when the Church of the Resurrection attacked one night three years ago Crossman Dept. LCD was one of the oldest groups in UD and it saddens me that it's over now but everything has an end. There might be many people who currently don't know us since we haven't been active as of late and our death has been a slow one. We participated in numerous battles, fought countless times all over Malton and assisted many human groups. Our main role used to be to defend Darvall Heights but because of misunderstandings and conflicts with CDF (Crossman) we became a nomadic "not holding in one place for too much time" group. Helped the YRC in Yagaton together with The Abandoned, participated in Operation: Lazarus, participated in all the Caiger sieges, assaulted many times Ridleybank together with the Gingerbread men, Dangermouse made this funny article about us RRF article, participated in the Battle of Blackmore. Later as our relationship with CDF (Crossman) became much positive, we returned to our roots and defended numerous sieges of Darvall Heights. Held Roywood for about a month and gained considerable number of members until we left for Roftwood as the first member of SSZ to help build this survivor heaven. Here is a list of part of the LCD operations here : archive. Having said that I think we deserve our little corner in the history of UD.

It's been hell of a three years for us, I hope some older members that remember us are still here. Having said this I am downcast to see the end of LCD and of my time here in UD. Thank you all for making it such an experience.


  1. Yes - Assuming I can vote on my own submission. (Cortonna) DarthRevan 15:52, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  2. No - Despite many, many dealings with the CrossmanDF (now there's a blast from the past) I've never heard of you. Given your positive relationship with them I'm going to assume most of you have the IQ of an average 5-year-old and the emotional stability to match. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 15:53, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    That's funny... as longtime leader of the Crossmen, I don't recall these dealings. However, given your track record, I don't think anyone takes you seriously. --Zod Rhombus 06:39, 11 June 2008 (BST)
    Does the name ASS ring any bells? --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 06:50, 11 June 2008 (BST)
    Sorry, I dealt with Xoid and Gage in ASS, you must have slipped under my radar. I don't seem to remember anything of any consequence (remember, I had the ASS member alt roster). Anyway, this has nothing to do with the vote, so please contact me on my talk page for further communication. --Zod Rhombus 18:42, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - this voting should have took place year ago. too long since we disbanded, eons from our glory days. there are not many left who remember --~~~~ [talk] 16:45, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  4. No - Old doesnt mean historical, participating in allegedly historical happenings doesnt make you historical. You have provided no grounds upon which the group actually did something new and original or even excelled in mundane things. Unlike many people here, i actually do remember you, but mostly because of a series of PM's on the desensitised board back when you were fighting it out with Amazings gang, and because i have a near encyclopedic memory. Im sick of people misusing historical groups to get average groups in, and im sick of voters voting based on affiliation and/or perceived popularity or coolness rather than based on the facts. This is not historical and doesnt deserve that status. It did nothing new, it wasnt an enterprising group, and you caused minimal drama, which didnt even rate a blip compared to the amazing drama here on the wiki and elsewhere. The LCD was simply just another humdrum background group in the game and deserves no special status. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 16:49, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes - Cyberbob240 making assumptions about our IQ and emotional stability based only on what you mentioned doesn't really speak well of you also. Never heard of us and voting NO, okay got nothing against that. And Grim, I am voting because I think it so ( yes I have read your thoughts on Wiki voting as well) and not because I used to be part of the group. The requirements for going historical are met, there are quite a few groups that haven't done anything original or new that are still there nonetheless. I honestly believe we contributed to the UD community in the past and those that worked together with us can support this. Having said that I have nothing against anyone, I just wish that before people make assumptions they actually back up their words with proofs. We might not be on the same opinion, but that doesn't make yours intrinsically valid (or mine in that regard either), historical act is something abstract isn't it? Constructive discussion, we have right? We had more then enough share of battles and everything that goes with it. We helped SSZ as the first group to join the cause, together with our allies to make it what it is today. Johnny Rico 17:15, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes I don't see where "New and Original" is part of the requirements. And speaking as a history teacher, sometimes something that is old does in fact qualify as historical just for being old. Moving on from that, "Back in the day..." I remember hearing a lot of chatter about LCD activities, even had the opportunity to assist them once, so yes... Most definitely historical. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 17:32, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes - What Johnny Rico and Conndraka said. Some of us are actually mature enough to make level-headed decisions without being biased or voting just because they once had the same affiliation, wow is it so hard? And Grim in my perspective I don't see what's so historical in FOBU or the Iron Cross Brothers or the Disciples of Zeko for that matter. It's a matter of perspective isn't it? Wiki and in-game are two different things, as well. LCD wasn't an one week group of few individuals, it was a three years old group who actively contributed and helped the survivors community and with all the things Cortonna brought up, I believe that yes, LCD has it's little corner in the history of UD. PS. Another article depicting LCD activity, [1] --Sev 07 17:39, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    I dont know about the others, but FOBU was a brilliantly executed hoax upon the creedyites that successfully drove them up the walls for months. It ended when Hungerer took down the fort and kept it down for a protracted period of time and i lost interest. In this way it was new, unique, and extremely interesting. Several groups actually formed for the express purpose of hunting down FOBU members, which was hilarious. Also, as for my complaints, look down at a number of other voting discussions and you will see my concerns are well founded. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 18:02, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    It was new yes, but I don't find it really interesting or hilarious at all, which is of course just my perspective. Anyway talking about anything original, we were going to make the first UD marriage (Rico and Barbara) having Petrosjko as our saint, he agreed to marry them in Ridleybank as far as I remember. Never happened but anyway it doesn't matter now that we are dead. Still like I mentioned above I think we contributed more then enough in those three years to have the historical status, we weren't a 5 members group nor we existed for one week or so. I understand however your concerns and I am glad that you are still here after all those years rising awareness. You have my sincerest thanks for that. --Sev 07 18:24, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes - Allies of the Abandoned for the longest time, their aid in maintaining Yagoton and the YRC's revival points deems them justifiable for historical status. --Private Mark 19:57, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  9. No I've heard of those other groups you talk of, but not of you.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:00, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  10. No - Yes they are an old group. Yes I remember them well. No I do not think they are historical. Yes I agree the Iron Cross Brothers should be removed from historical because I know for a fact there was only one member evar. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 00:18, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes - Back in the old times, it was a blast. Muh 06:04, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes - Deserving. DanceDanceRevolution 08:03, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes - What the hell are those allegations about members voting? Since when a member of the same group cant vote? And I dont think there is any merit in a vote "No-never heard of you" - because that's your own ignorance, those guys are pretty old, if you are new and you havent heard about them that's your own fault. Quite a lot folk never heard about "The Many" or the "Shambling Gulls" so lets take out their historical status. I havent heard at all about crap load of groups in south Malton but when they try to make it for historical I dont vote "No" cause that's my ignorance, same goes with groups which are right now in the historical page. Never heard about FOBU, and it's not even funny too. ASS yeah, FOBU not really. I used to be from the A-Button Zombee Kill Krew before you say I am a member of LCD. LCD was our main enemy and those guys were quite proffessional with great tactics. If you havent had dealings with the group, stfu about "how they dont exceed at even trivial things" cause you werent there to know. When those guys were active, Northern Malton was a much much safer place for survivors and pretty screwed for my kind. Not to mention how they took complete control over Roywood in few days. Had first-hand dealings with them and they bloody deserve it. Going to try round up the other ZKK guys to vote for you as well. Sorry for the profound language, that's my 5 cents. Sad thing that this group is going down, lots of fun had with you guys. --Bubba 09:14, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes - as an Ex-leader of the group its logical for me to vote for such a hallowed status, but let it be known that im not only doing this for bias reasons, the LCD has been a part of many battles and played an integral part of Urban Dead history, from the battles of caiger to the mall tour (06 and 07)sieges and beyond. sure other groups of bygone eras with the historical title may not have done as much or have done more, but its a fact that LCD were there for many years, and if thats not historical then i dont know what is Bromhead 15:16, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes - Can remember from back when I was with the Abandoned... waaay back! Danny252 15:32, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - LCD rocks! --Mike Madman Calwert 21:43, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes - They were an important group in forming and defending SSZ, I remember them well and for me the game wouldn't be the same if they never existed --Brom Armostrong 00:36, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  18. Yes - I sai. 00:40, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  19. Yes - Vital group for the forming and holding the SSZ, and great friends of a human Ridleybank and Blackmore! The game wouldn't have been the same without you. The Blackmore's Knights, few and forgotten as we may be, pledge our vote Darth Nerdius 04:04 11 June 2008 (GMT)
  20. Yes - I remember them engaging in quite significant activities and being around for quite a long time. --ZsL 02:28, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  21. Yes - I might be slightly biased, but the bra!nz of LCD survivors resting in the gut of my CotR zombie compel me to vote yes. Good times, good times. - Subotei's Crotch 02:59, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  22. Yes - While we haven't always gotten along, the LCD have always been steadfast in helping their fellow survivors - whether in Darvall Heights, Roywood, The Battle of Blackmore or the SSZ. More recent times have brought us closer than ever and I am proud to have them as comrades. We are intertwined by a shared past, although any survivor who fought by them can attest to their commitment to the survivor cause. Definitely a game-enriching experience for the Crossman Defense Force. --Zod Rhombus 06:39, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - It seems there is disagreement over the meaning of a "historical" group, but I remember the LCD, so I vote yes. --Dathgale 15:35, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  24. Yes - Most definitely. -- Rohndogg1 16:57, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  25. Ya w/o a doubt --OMGitsCHRIS 17:51, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  26. Yes -good pro-survivor group and worthy of this honour.--Abraxaslotus 10:48 12 June 2008 (EST)
  27. Yes - They get my vote Necros Nastigast 16:06, 12 June 2008 (BST)
  28. Yes Got my vote.--JolietJake 03:19, 14 June 2008 (BST)
  29. Yes yesyes fiends. --Tbroo 10:19, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  30. Who? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:19, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  31. Yes - For sure, definitely historical, "brave brave LCD run away" hehe, good old times eh. A pity you guys are disbanding, we would love to munch on your bra!ns again. Lazarus Zeke Disturbed 12:41, 20 June 2008 (BST)
  32. Kee- I mean Yes ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|00:08, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  33. Yes -Changed the game for me. So long and thanks for all the good times. Kluver 07:18, 22 June 2008 (BST)

Succeeded (84.8%) 28 for 5 against Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 05:55, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Roftwood Assault Force

Ok talking to the last known member of the RAF we decided that the group is fully disbanded. We were organized October 24, 2005 back when Roftwood was considered an inhabitable suburb. We were the first official group of survivors to begin taking back the suburb that we declared our home and under our belt of protection. Within a months time we reclaimed Roftwood as a survivor suburb and for three years worked on protecting it from the threat. We also started the first official revive point in Roftwood at Turpin Road early on in the game. All that were looking for is to be acknowledged for our work in the suburb for the many years we have been a group. Please dont vote no if your new to the game since you obviously havent been around long enough to have seen what we have done. --Lt.G Deathnut freelance 08:01, 21 May 2008 (BST)

  1. Yes --Lt.G Deathnut freelance 08:01, 21 May 2008 (BST)
  2. no' - never heard of you soz.--xoxo 08:24, 21 May 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes I remember you lot! Y'all did great work. S Aline 20:15, 21 May 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes -- Dromar 3 11:00 PM (EST), 21 May 2008 -- You forgot all the work around the suburbs around Roftwood too.
    True, but theres just too much to put into the description --Lt.G Deathnut freelance 07:48, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  5. Yesh --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 04:20, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - Biggish impact ----KOOKY 21:23, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes--Screw Names 20:37, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes - I remember you guys doing pretty significant stuff. --ZsL 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  9. Yes - I've never actually seen you around, but I've heard a lot about you.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:37, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes Sanpedro 07:28, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes - As Labine. --WanYao 18:36, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes - Rings a bell. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:40, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes - Most Definitely. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 20:47, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes - The RAF has been around. paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 21:45, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  15. No- Yes you were around a while, yes i remember you, but i dont remember anything you actually did. You did nothing to elevate you above the pack, and as such you cant count as historical. Nothing new, nothing innovative. As for your claim of the first revive point, proof please. Maybe if you can find that and prove it to my satisfaction ill change my vote, but thats pretty much all that will do it. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:35, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    During the turbulent times of 2005 the RAF, TSR, and PARA worked together from Stabury to Roftwood to Pitneybank. This was perhaps one of the big major fights of my early survivor career. The RRF chased my group, the Stanbury Renegades, from Bunney Street PD, to Nichols, to Mayo Row PD, to Hildebrand, and then to Giddings (Dia de Los Muertos). Since Dia de Los Muertos is historical one of the groups that helped create the survivor side of that battle should be too. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 01:18, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    Your history needs some correcting. The RRF didntb chase you, they went along on their merry path and you were unlucky enough to stay in said path while fleeing. Whiile the rapid demolishing of nichols and the slower demolishion of hildebrand were, as two of the earliest successful mall seiges i know of (Following Shearbanks Stickling mall). Your last comment seems to be implying a fallacy of division, that because X has historical status,the components that made it should also have such status. the RAF did nothing really special. It showed up at a mall seige and was incidentally run down by a horde doing its thing. It wasnt specifically targetted, none of you were. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 03:46, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    I'm not trying to overplay my importance but there are several threads from 2005-2006 in the War Council with the Elders, Petro, and Jorm discussing "rattling Saromu's cage". Now, the RRF probably didn't mean to chase me personally but the survivors fleeing from Stanbury Village. But the history still stands. The RAF was one of the many groups to flee the RRF to Dia de Los Muertos and is one of the reasons why the Dia de Los Muertos was considered historical. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 16:41, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    We didnt even have the RRF forum at that time sonny. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:26, 26 May 2008 (BST)
    Well...if nothing convinces you, I'll give this a shot. The RAF did help defend Stickling Mall from Mall Tour '07. And it just so happen to be me who convinced them to do so while my alt, DJSpinbad, was in Roftwood. If Dickholeguy was till around, he might be able to confirm it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:42, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - Sure. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:20, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes - they were somewhat interesting. --Bullgod 01:42, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  18. No. "Somewhat interesting" doesn't cut it for me.--Nallan (Talk) 02:28, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  19. No Never heard of you. DanceDanceRevolution 03:00, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    Two things. Your character was created toward the end of 2007 and is currently idled out of the game.--Lt.G Deathnut freelance 03:53, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  20. Yes - And most decidedly "Yes". For starters, there's more on this wiki regarding the RAF then all but 4 or 5 of the existing Historical Groups. From the length of their existence, with their cohesive style of organization and distinctive approach towards their group's goals, to their compelling role play and personal histories, I think they've made great strides towards enriching the history of the Roftwood area to amply justify their designation as a group of historical significance. --Morgan Blair 11:55, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  21. Yes - I have enjoyed working with you as a corespondant for the C4NT (DJSpinbad), and I also have enjoyed PKing you as a lone PKer (Axe Hack). I also have enjoyed attempting to munch on your brains (SomeoneDead), despite the fact Canuhearmenow always managed to kill me first before I even knocked down the cades. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:18, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    I do remember how much fun it was having to look over my shoulder all the time with you targeting the RAF. --Lt.G Deathnut freelance 22:53, 2 June 2008 (BST)
  22. No - i don't remember you doing anything except bragging yourself --~~~~ [talk] 11:52, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - As all the above "yes's". --Private Mark 21:49, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  24. Yes - I've been around Roftwood for the past two years and the RAF has been a helpful force protecting the western part of the suburb. It's too bad they disbanded. They will be missed. --Nick Nitroz 18:56, 27 May 2008 (BST)
  25. Yes - They helped me on one of my first characters, and I've always felt indebted. --Vandurn 02:24, 29 May 2008 (BST)
  26. Yes - I was a member of this proud and honorable group, we kept the streets safe from zeds and pkers. Helped players that needed to be healed or rivived, we maintained a quiet peace as long as we were able. We gave our lives many times for others to flee or regroup else where.--Swat0121:03, 30 May 2008 (BST)
  27. No--Luke Skywalker 15:10, 1 June 2008 (BST)

Voting Passed 21 For 6 Against (77.78%) Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 22:45, 6 June 2008 (BST)

The Second Big Bash

As of yesterday, or today, depending on your time zone, The Second Big Bash has decimated 53 different suburbs of Malton (and some of those more than once, Hi Beavers! :P). Such unbridled destruction placed BB2 firmly in the top three hordes of Malton, along with MOB and RRF. The battle of Giddings Mall also led to the innovation of the Beachhead Tactic, something that changed the face of Malton forever. Can anyone really vote against such reasons for historical group status? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:03, 4 April 2008 (BST)

  1. Yes - Can nominators vote? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:06, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes - Although I wonder if it's yet eligible for Historical Status? Don't the group numbers have to drop a little further yet? - Bisfan 01:22, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - It surely was Big Fun Big Time. (For zombies, at least.) -- John RubinT! ZG FER 07:45, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes - Without a doubt. The rules for nomination simply say that the group must "no longer actively contribute to the game." Since it has officially disbanded I think it would meet that criteria no matter how many continue to carry the group tag. -- Kingdem 16:56, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes - For great justice, the Second Big Bash must take its place amongst the epic wins of ages past. --Mordred 19:21, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - Well... yeah. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 22:43, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  7. YAH --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:54, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes - I especially liked the siege upon Giddings. --ZsL 17:28, 7 April 2008 (BST)
  9. Yah Thanks for ruining Vinetown Twice! It was fun.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:35, 8 May 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes -- Siege on Giddings especially. XPav 03:32, 8 April 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes -- Had a long run with a big effect on all the various 'burbs it hit. -- Alec Moss 06:01, 8 April 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes--Giddings siege alone qualifies it, IMO --Shinysheep 11:01, 10 April 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes - Undoubtedly. --The Hierophant 07:15, 11 April 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes yup--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 07:20, 11 April 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes - I fought against the Second Big Bash a few times, including the month-long siege on Giddings Mall. As a survivor I hate them, but I also respect them and they deserve recognition as a Historical Group. --Will Cathers 15:28, 11 April 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - if this isn't a historic group, i don't know why other historic groups exist. pretty much everyone in the burbs we thrashed knows us the hard way hehYeeth 04:34, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes - We brought the fear of BARHAH! back into the game. And had a rollin' great time doing so. The Big Bash was a real group, a family, a HOME, for zambahz in all states of decay. B!G BAZH! B!G BAZH az .!nnah haaz! --WanYao 19:49, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  18. Yes - The BB2 was a blast to defend against at Giddings, and just as much fun to defect to afterward ;). Machegav 00:42, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  19. No - Detracted from the primary aim of the game, to collect the best survivor outfit. Also, Ron Paul for Pope. --Karloth Vois RR 01:26, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  20. Yes - How come this is even considered a question? the bash leveled half of Malton!--Aldaris 14:41, 17 April 2008 (BST)
    Yes - The Second Big Bash was incredible! It created excitement in the game!--Fuzzymail 13:04, 19 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:51, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes - Just for one simple reason: IT WAS AWESOME! --XterrorX 22:02, 17 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:51, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Voting passed. 19 For 1 Against. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:51, 20 May 2008 (BST)

The Caiger Resistance Front

The CRF was formed in the wake of the destruction of Caiger by Shacknews and continued for about a year afterwards, later leading the destruction of Caiger again while Mall Tour 07 was sieging Stickling. It held the mall against humans for months afterwards. It has faded away off the groups page and a call to gauge interest in keeping it going has yielded no responses. The group made its impact in the Northwest by holding the mall for an extended period of time and consistently offering a fight to the humans attempting to retake it. The group deserves historical status.--DonTickles 19:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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  1. Yes - Author vote, as a former member of course I would think it historical.--DonTickles 19:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Easy Keep.--Karekmaps?! 19:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Sad to see them pass away, but yes. Wisuguya 20:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC/GMT)
  4. Yes --Talunex 19:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  5. Yes, the group was very important.--Thekooks 19:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  6. Yes i wasn't even aware they were inactive, i think i still have a CRF member or two on my contacts...--Bullgod 20:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  7. Yes -- Barroom Hero 03:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  8. Yes – Sad to see them pass into the night. But all good things must come to an end… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 08:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  9. Yes - --User:Axe27/Sig 03:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Did a damn good job.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 03:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  11. Yes - --The Hierophant 15:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  12. Yes - They sure did give us some trouble. --Zod Rhombus 20:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
  13. Yes - How could they not deserve it? Bobs Aturd 00:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  14. Yes - A text book example of a group deserving this status if they are now unfortunately defunct -- Iscariot 01:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  15. Yes - --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Sounds good to me.--Groundskeeper 01:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  17. Yes - Whynot? -- Murray Jay Suskind 03:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  18. Yes - Le sigh. It's my fault for not being active enough. Call me up when y'all want to make another small zombie horde. On another note, I am the owner of the most historical groups. AoG, Stanbury Renegades, PARA, and now the CRF. Suck it, bitches. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 04:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  19. Yar - It didn't do anything as far as I know, but I'm no expert. Unlike Sonny, who somehow owns groups.--Lachryma 07:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  20. Yes - Yep, for sure. -- Xyu 16:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

The Dark Order of Armageddon

Voting

Quit possibly the first true Death Cultist group[2], the DOA once boasted 46 members at its peak[3] who would wander from suburb to suburb to baptize and purify those they found, all in the name of their dark pope "Sinners, rejoice! For the Dark Order of Armageddon has come to bring our blessings upon you. Embrace the joys of death and turn away from life's sins". The beginning of the end of the order was a combination of the leadership all collectively becoming unable to access the internet (thus preventing new members from being recruited and given forum access), as well as the Revive Syringe change from 1 AP to revive, to 10 AP to revive. This made the combat revives we depended on far less frequent, and it was becoming difficult to have at least 1 living member to preach every night as the zombified cultists retrieved the blood requited for the baptizum. The official date of disbanding was 6/6/06, and the last act of the DOA can be found recorded here for memories sake. I have been meaning to nominate the DOA for historical status for probably a year and a half now. I suppose this level of apathy doesn't speak too highly for me, but, luckily, I'm not the one being voted on. --TeksuraTalk 06:07, 26 October 2007 (BST)

Voting passed --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Ghetto Cow

see voting

We are a pro-survivor group that was started in late October 2006. Since then, we've participated in all sorts of sieges, from the 4th Siege of Caiger Mall to the Third Battle of Blackmore, we've helped out the suburbs of Molebank, Yagoton, and Roftwood, we've opened a tanning salon in Ridleybank for the benefit of the RRF, we've wandered to many parts of Malton, we've fought the Mall Tour '07 at several locations, we started a War on Sheep, and we've gotten a decent amount of members. However, I'm outta here, and I feel this group wouldn't be so great without me ;), so I'm ending it. But what we've done is historical, no?--Lachryma 19:00, 7 August 2007 (BST)

Passed --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 20:16, 6 September 2007 (BST)

Amish Liberation Front

see voting

One of the original top pker groups. They're older and old and deserve some recognition for their work. They used to plague the Bale Mall area. The Bale Mall logo is even based on them. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 04:52, 17 July 2007 (BST)

Voting Passed --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Mall Tour '07

see voting

The zmobies of the Mall Tour '07 are now part of the UrbanDead history. Barhah! --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 18:00, 27 June 2007 (BST)

Voting passed --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

St. Valentine's Cherubs

A new chapter in the history of malton is written. St. Valentine's Cherubs voted historical. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 00:15, 21 June 2007 (BST)


Dulston Defense Death Squad

A survivor group founded on November 6th, 2005 the DDDS was steeped in controversy due to their harsh "anti-death cultist" policy in Dulston which advocated executing survivors who were associated with a zombie group, regardless of dual nature. This eventually spilled into a conflict with the Drunken Dead. In later months the DDDS became one of the founding member groups of the Dulston Alliance, the largest survivor organization in the NE Corner at the time, and without an actual head-count it's probably still considered as such.

At this time the DDDS no longer appears on Game Statistics, has not updated their wikipage since I redesigned it for them, do not appear on the Dulston Alliance forum, and one of the group's few remaining known members, Private000, reported to the the Alliance that he left the group when it became apparent it had faded into the UD history books.

So while the DDDS may not be a famous group, as their efforts were strictly associated with the NE Corner, I still think they made a major local impact for the NE suburbs where they once roamed and I'm hoping those who vote here feel the same way.

For

  1. A part of Dulston's heritage and history, not to mention the historical significance to even those groups that they fought against. --Mobius187 May 15 2007, 10:14 PM (EST)
  2. While they were a group that helped formulate defense policy and had some skirmishes with zombies and Pkers they are just not active any more. --Shotgun Ed May 15 2007, 11:33 AM(CST)
  3. I did not know much about the DDDS as I am a newer player, but from what I have seen they deserve to be historic. Jaydepps 20:04, 15 May 2007 (BST)
  4. They should be made a historical group. Tommy monahan May 15 2007 15:50
  5. They did good for Dulston. They deserve it. Evildemon989 May 15 2007 16:30
  6. They deserve to be a histroical group. Heiny May 15 2007 15:50(CST)
  7. Well known enough to be historical, but certainly inactive now. Rattlehead May 15 2007 19:15(EDT)
  8. A worthy opponent for the Shambling Crooners. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 04:07, 16 May 2007 (BST)
  9. Good Strong Teamwork. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 05:32, 16 May 2007 (BST)
  10. Yipee! Look at my templated sig! --thegreathal read the Gazette! 17:12, 16 May 2007 (BST)
  11. Give them their due. Peter Steele 17:41, 16 May 2007 (BST)
  12. We need more "region-specific" historical groups. Just because a group confined itself to one particular location doesn't mean that it should be tossed aside, especially if it had a significant impact on that region... The Southwest corner of Malton seems particularly neglected. --Specialist290 22:31, 16 May 2007 (BST)
  13. Even I've heard of 'em, and I've spent most of my time in Malton as a lone wolf! These guys wrote history! Torjim 23:33, 16 May 2007 (GMT+1)
  14. - Many of us live in just one part of Malton meaning many suburb groups aren't getting into Historical Groups. I think this could be a very good turning point in preserving UrbanDeads local history... --MarieThe Grove on Tour 15:57, 17 May 2007 (BST)
  15. Gotta respect my fellow Alliance members. --Schloss Ritter 06:20, 27 May 2007 (BST)
  16. - they were active for a long time. Not the most effective of groups, but certainly worth keeping.--Vista +1 14:10, 27 May 2007 (BST)
  17. Yeah, as much as I hated their policies, they should be made historical.--Jorm 09:05, 28 May 2007 (BST)
  18. Keep, for reasons listed above several times. --Davurnium 17:27, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Against

  1. Never ever heard of them. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 21:52, 16 May 2007 (BST)
  2. I'm with Matthew - I've been around for a little while now, and with all my wiki-reading, I've never seen much on them. I mean, they only operated in the one suburb, right? --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 11:21, 18 May 2007 (BST)
    I have company! wheeee! Don't you feel ankward when your vote stands against such a mayority? I do, but my vote stands. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 00:17, 19 May 2007 (BST)
  3. Do you realize that IF dux Ducis or Matthewfarenhiet didn't vote, this thing would have not gotten into Historical. Since they did, it's now guarranted inside! Fools.--ShadowScope 21:14, 20 May 2007 (BST)
    Don't you realize that we don't want to abuse the democratic system or force our agendas trough the wiki, but just participate on the discussion? Fool =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 01:02, 26 May 2007 (BST)
  4. ditto--Sexualharrison MR ה TStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 05:40, 22 May 2007 (BST)
  5. First and probably last I will or have ever hear of/about/from them. --karek 09:51, 23 May 2007 (BST)

Moved to archive -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 03:08, 31 May 2007 (BST)

FedCom

Up for speedy deletion, Fedcom are deserving of remembrance.

A farcical group at best, truly worrying in their darkest moments, but always a popular target amongst the PKer circuit- perhaps their most notable achievement was their war with The Heathers, drawing widespread humour from across Malton. Whilst their greatest fame was through being simply shot to pieces, it was pretty damn hard to ignore these guys whilst they staked their control over most of Malton, maligned the lack of 'Mechs' in the game or celebrated their "victory" over yet another huge zombie horde.

Of course, much of their success as was due to the ineptitude of but one person- Dominatus himself. Latin for "dominated"(?), you were never quite sure if his ramblings about taking over the world with Mechs was all one huge joke that only he was privy to. Unfortunately, it was all too clear that he was more than a wee bit daft.

So; shall we fill the books of UD history with all-powerful Malton wide groups, only to let the truly interesting slide? A vote for FedCom is a vote for diversity! --Karloth Vois RR 01:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


  1. Yes - Provided they are truly gone, I'd hate to see these nutters deleted. --Karloth Vois RR 01:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  2. No - don't you dare try to put these guys in the same category at TSO or Mall Tour '06. This group was infamous for nothing more than stupidity.--Gage 02:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes - They were a fun group to kill, and will be sorely missed...--Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 03:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes We can't let the memory of Fedcom die, they were silly and all but still you have to admit they did make a contribution to the game. They made us laugh, they made us cry, they made us wonder about their sanity, I say we need to keep them in. --Killy Mcboomstick
  5. Yes - The page will be legendary. --Virus002 04:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Did anyone else see their logo? They put TZH to shame. --D4rk N00b 06:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - I visit their page when I need a pick-me-up. It never fails. --Hubrid Nox Sys WTF U! B! 08:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Sheer hilarity -- E-Dogg 08:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes - but only with the orginal logo ...this logo must be preserved to show the world the true horror of FedCom(edy). --Pathetic BiII 09:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
    MSPaint is always made of win.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 10:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes - I am their truly leader and I support this nomination.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 10:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Those of us in the Feral Undead got a lot of play out of these guys. Their leader never failed to amuse with his bluster and delusions. Please come back and finish that whole world conquest thing, "Dominated"! --Priapus 11:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Let us give praised lamb as a well cooked offering --tuttle freely 13:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes - These guys were the biggest trenchies Urban Dead has ever been witness to, and should be remembered if nothing more than as a benchmark for ultimate stupidity and cowardice. I'll miss hunting these little punks!--Headless gunner W! 15:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes - We must remember this group. New players must be able to see what they should never become. --Gut stench FU BAR 15:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes - How could anyone vote otherwise? These guys and their wacky antics were the highlight of UD in 2006, at least in the realm of the truly goofy. We enjoyed eating them. --Snuffleuff 18:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes - As much bull as they may have spat, they were quite funny and I will miss checking profiles just to see if there was a Fedcom member in the buildings I cracked. --Zorinth 22:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC) --Forgot to add the signature
  17. Yes - Hell yeah! We (as GCM) even were allied to them for some time. Kinda didn't last. Still... Are they really gone? --Niilomaan GRR!M! 20:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  18. Of Course! - Bullgod 14:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Sometimes Gage, a historical group is one who is remember as having an impact on the game for whatever reasons. If people feel they should be there, let it be. Pillsy FT 14:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes - And not just because Gage just doesn't get it. These guys made the game fun beyond the numbers game.--The Envoy 14:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
  21. Yes - I have a confession. I actually was part of Fedcom with an alt of mine for a couple days when I first started playing. I then found out how crazy the leader was so I started killing the members. They were ridiculous and fun to kill and should not be forgotten. Long live the the Fedcom Members I killed!!--BambiKiller 03:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  22. Yes' - What about the Heathers? Maybe they should be put in historical groups for killing FedCom. --Kamden 03:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  23. Yes - for obvious reason --Pathetic Bill 09:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  24. Yes - I am hesitant to put this group in historical, but as mentioned they did cause quite a stir and it was a noticeable event. - Whitehouse 13:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  25. Yes-They were almost a parody of trenchiness, yet were serious. Definitely symbolic of a certain aspect of the game! --Xjeffiex 19:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  26. Yes - They were a source of much hilarity for all --Ashadoa 21:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  27. Yes - Sure. --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 21:27, 25 March 2007 (BST)
  28. Yes - Meh, why not? --Specialist290 05:25, 26 March 2007 (BST)
  29. Yes - Hurrr, I suppose so... --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 09:54, 27 March 2007 (BST)
  30. Yes - But only if it's noted that the group is historical for being retarded. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 10:56, 27 March 2007 (BST)
  31. Yes - Small suburb, smallish group, but they seemed to have been big heroes to the few that struggled out an existence there. --MorthBabid 18:52, 29 March 2007 (BST)
  32. Yes, but - only if someone creates a neutral history, as the FedCom page's own history is outdated, and extraordinarily skewed. Some things to include would be a non-FedCom, neutral opinion of the 'war' with the Heathers, RedRum's brief involvement in the Heathers' Anti-FedCom campaign, the arguably humorous 'showdown' with Sirens, Last Hope Mercenaries' abandonment at the behest of Heathers, and FedCom President's 'brilliant' strategy of refusing to stand from death until all the PKers left. I don't know all the stories, myself, but if the very reasons they are remembered aren't included on the page, I don't see why it should be preserved. -Craer 20:37, 1 April 2007 (BST)
  33. Yes,--Jake4d1 00:44, 5 April 2007 (BST)
  34. Yes - I would have voted yes just because they supported MHG and were a DEM ally, but I would have also voted yes just because of the drama they caused. Think of this a double yes.--Labine50 MH|ME|TNT'07 06:56, 7 April 2007 (BST)
  35. Hell yes! - Between being a member of Red Rum and the Feral Undead I was always getting a dose of these guys. We will never know the truth of their claims of mechs, taking over the world and the US. Joke? Delusions? Who cares! It was fucking hysterical and made for boatloads of fun. --Mayor Fitting 07:21, 7 April 2007 (BST)

Vote passed, marked historical. - Whitehouse 21:55, 7 April 2007 (BST)

Disciples of Zeko

Okay people, we had a good long run, but you know what? We're done. We have college and work and lives to get back to and just don't have the time to do this anymore. We really appreciate all the people who would PK for us and do all sorts of mayhem, considering we never could have done this ourselves. We'd like to thank Morth Babid for his help in enshrining our deeds on their own wiki pages and sticking up for us, and anyone else who appreciated our special brand of religion, despite the fact that we were a pain in the ass for them. I'd like to nominate our own group (The Disciples of Zeko) for historical group. We almost made it in once, but then I popped up and got active for a little while. Well, now I'd like to take you guys up on that old offer. It does my heart good to actually know people are killing in Zeko's name STILL even after all this time. A non-pk character I had was killed by a random cultist from the group I founded myself just recently, and I have to say it did me proud. I hope our legend lives on in the hearts and minds of the survivors of Malton. I give you all one last "Praise Zeko" and thanks to everyone for being such good sports. .--Rozozag 20:55, 19 March 2007

  1. Yes - Gage 05:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Don't you dare try to put these.. guys.... forget it. Thumbs up, you bothersome bunch! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes --Jorm 06:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes Self-vote. Woot. I'd also like to direct you to the Confessions of Zeko. A work in progress. .--Rozozag
  5. Yes Hail Zeko! If people like it or not he is a part of the PKer history --Pathetic BiII 09:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Anyone see the third St. Valentine's massacre at Bale Mall recently? Directly inspired by Zeko, it killed the whole Mall (non-zerging). The "confession" is a great read. --[[User:Karloth --Kamden 03:10, 30 March 2007 (BST)vois|Karloth Vois]] RR 13:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - A worth addition. Pillsy FT 14:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Without a doubt, same as before. --Doubler 14:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Shrine of murder - wonderful idea --Pathetic Bill 09:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  10. No - Who? What? Where? Never came across them, never heard on the wiki of anyone having major problems with them... they themselves seem to claim to be be a two man, zerging PK group... what? Dime a dozen. Guess they must have worked "the right area" to get noticed. I've seen heaps of worthy groups spammed out of this page because they didn't do anything spectacular... sooo... what's your claim to fame? How did you "change the game"? -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 10:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
    I may be biased as I'm part of the group that was most affected by their actions, but they did quite a lot of things. The first mass PKing by a sole character was performed by RedZeko (altough zerging) and then it spawned a whole cult of fanatics that didn't answer to any kind of reason. It was really annoying to see these guys PKing, breaking generators and saying while you were killing them "Oh my lord Zeko I'm giving you my blood!", just to reappear the next day as if nothing happened. They were quite notorious in Yagoton, altough at a time that Yagoton was too safe for them to really create a considerable impact, and what they did to change the game may be the great ammount of copycats they spawned, should they be copying the unprecedented fanatism or the "one character kills everything" attacks. They added fun and thrill on boring times, and spawned a whole new class of PKers. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 09:07, 25 March 2007 (BST)
    Ah, Yagoton... what is it about that place that spawns zerging arsehats ;) I guess they deserve their place in historical then, if only for being an example of the power of zerging to get you noticed, eh? -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 09:21, 25 March 2007 (BST)
    I really don't know what you're talking about. Maybe it has something to do with the BME, but I never had any contact with these guys. Anyways, I just wanted to explain why do I think that they're worthy of Historical status, and for the sake of sincerity even mentioned clearly AT FIRST THEY USED ZERGS. That's it. For Yagoton only being notorious because of zergs, up yours =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 10:18, 25 March 2007 (BST)
    Hazzah! That's teh spirit >:) And yeah, you got what I was talking about -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 10:37, 25 March 2007 (BST)
  11. No - As boxy, I had not heard of them and do not see why we should add a group of self proclaimed zergers to the historical section. - Whitehouse 13:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  12. No - Similar to Boxy. I had come into the vote planning a 'yes' as I did during their last bid. Now I'm aware that the original act of Zeko was apparently a zerge stunt. So, as far as I'm concerned, the foundation of the group isn't so much a well coordinated PK stunt, but a vanity trick of one player. My recommendation is to not grant such "groups" historic status. Rather, since the group is apparently the vanity project of one player's abuse of character generation, it should be placed under that user's user page. There, I believe it will receive the same protection it would as a "historic" group, but also reflect the fact that this wasn't so much a group as a personal stunt.--The Envoy 17:48, 31 March 2007 (BST)
  13. Aye --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 04:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes --PatheticBill 17:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes Vantar 07:58, 25 March 2007 (BST)
  16. Yes --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 21:23, 25 March 2007 (BST)
    Abstain - My previous history with them and their admission of zerging leave me w/ mixed feelings on the issue. --Specialist290 05:23, 26 March 2007 (BST)
    According to page rules, abstain is not a valid vote. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 12:29, 26 March 2007 (BST)
  17. Yes - They affected the game. They inspired real time trikes and I remember going "Wow, hope that doesn't happen to me" whe I saw it. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 12:29, 26 March 2007 (BST)
  18. Yes Very reluctantly... --Specialist290 15:58, 26 March 2007 (BST)
  19. Yes -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 07:25, 27 March 2007 (BST)
  20. Hell Yes - Awesome legend and events surrounding them, despite not doing a great deal outside Yagoton... --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 09:51, 27 March 2007 (BST)
  21. Almighty Fuck No - Who the hell are these clowns? --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 10:56, 27 March 2007 (BST)
  22. Yes --Pedentic 03:39, 28 March 2007 (BST)
  23. Yes - Incredible UD culture. --Thegreathal 02:48, 29 March 2007 (BST)
  24. Yes -- Made our virtual life interesting, and found 'unique' ways to do their religious cult thing. Salude! And check out what they did: Valentine's Day Massacre and The Second Massacre of Yagoton. --MorthBabid 18:39, 29 March 2007 (BST)
  25. Yes - Alright, Lets let them have a historical Template. --Kamden 03:10, 30 March 2007 (BST)
  26. Yes - i find it amazing that this group is run by only two guys... and that they managed to fool the entire community with their doings for this long. as much as i hate zergers, these guys have my respect. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 12:15, 30 March 2007 (BST)
  27. Yes - As those who said yes. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:31, 31 March 2007 (BST)
  28. No - I just can't bring myself to vote yes on a group that wasn't even really a group to begin with. However, I think that the Confessions of RedZeko page should be protected in some way or another, because it gives the necessary information without recognizing them as worthy of being in historical groups. --Reaper with no name TJ! 22:18, 4 April 2007 (BST)
  29. Yes - You guys were quite a pain in the ass. --Heretic144 03:55, 5 April 2007 (BST)

Vote passed, marked historical. - Whitehouse 21:55, 7 April 2007 (BST)

Blackmore Bastard Brigade

Again, group is all but defunct, and I think we got the shaft end of the deal. The group is done, but if a group like the shining ones gets a historical nomination while still on the stats page, I think the BBB should as well. Also, anyone who keeps the BBB tag in their profile does it for purely sentimental reasons. There are no future plans to retake Blackmore.--Darth Cheney Malton Rangers 01:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yes The BBB had a profound impact on the game --Darth Cheney Malton Rangers 01:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes I don't give a flying f' about Ridleybank anymore, and even I got involved in a sense. --SirensT RR 02:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes At the height, we were taking on just about every large zombie group in the game- with the others on the way. Any group of 200 capable of that are more than historical. --Ron Burgundy 02:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes They were high, as Ron said. --Barbecue Barbecue 02:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes As DHG. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yah They didn't get historical status last time? The hell?--Lachryma 02:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    No, due to a questionable (at best) decesion by Grim --Darth Cheney Malton Rangers 03:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    Questionable from your POV, at least. --Hubrid Nox Sys WTF U! B! 05:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - A group tied to an event: the event is done, the group is too. Guys with the BBB tags on their profiles shouldn't be taken as the same BBB that kept the Blackmore Building amalgaming many other groups: they're a different group, period. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 03:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes The BBB should be historical they are not what they were, and the only people with in their profiles now have it there for sentimental reasons. -- jleggitt Malton Rangers 04:34, 22 February
  9. Yes - They were all like "Aagh, zombies!" --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 07:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. No - There are still a lot on the stats, and sure, some of them may have it for sentimental reasons, but a lot of those people are still in Blackmore. Further, there is still activity on their forums. So I don't think they are done yet.--Jorm 07:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    If you're talking about the NMC board, then they're just one group among many and their section of the forums is empty and basically closed. I'm saying that as the semi-conscious admin, so I suppose it's worth something. The people in Blackmore right now are better thought of as our successors than anything else. --Ron Burgundy 18:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    This post (dated Feb 13), calling for a "Colossal Revive Task Force", this post asking for a list of PKers and GKers (dated Feb 22) seem to indicate otherwise.--Jorm 22:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
    Blackmore isn't mentioned anywhere on the first thread. It's about operations elsewhere. The thread is an announcement, so it appears on all boards, even the ones we don't use. The second is just one guy who has 5 posts to his name, the rest of which are in our "Haiku Club" section. He's probably just out of the loop or ascribing to the aesthetic poetic prophetic ideal. --Ron Burgundy 23:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  11. No - They're still active. --Hubrid Nox Sys WTF U! B! 09:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  12. Yes - The Blackmore Bastard Brigade I was proud to have been a member of is long past. We made our mark on history, and damn it if we don't deserve our place in the history books! Tovarisch Khrushchev 20:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes - A Classy bunch of folk who made the word Blackmore into a household reference. Someone pass the Scotch. --Sergeant Zerbrowski 20:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes - One stamd against zombies that meant something- shame it didn't last longer but it was inviteable. No-one can win a seige unless their dead but it was a golly good fight! --MarieThe Grove on Tour 21:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Wasn't there, but I've heard plenty of stories. --Specialist290 00:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Anyone who was there knows, we made history. --Legom7 01:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
  17. Yes - Deserves a place in Urban Dead history. --Antipathy 08:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
  18. No - Still active. --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 01:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Same as last time. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 23:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes - AFAIK, the only group to ever take Ridleybank down for an extended period of time, the group that succeeded in diverting the behemoth that was the Big Bash: they are historical. --Funt Solo Scotland flag.JPG 13:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
  21. Yes - The stats page doesn't mean crap and can be manipulated by people who want the group to fail. Yes vote from me. Pillsy FT 10:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  22. Yes - They had an impact alright, but mostly symbolicly. --Kamden 00:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
  23. Yes - Red Rum had fun with this bunch. A lovely target. --Karloth Vois RR 01:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Voting ends tomorrow and so far it is Yes = 20 & No = 3 so they will be getting in when voting ends. Pillsy FT 16:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC). Voting has ended and they are historical. Pillsy FT 10:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Big Bash

One of the most famous Zombie Hordes ever and when I was just starting I joined with BOW who were having problems with them moving through our suburbs. I can barely name one suburb that hasn't had any problems with them..But now its official that they are gone. They are blending into mall tour 07 and are no longer an organised force. In honour of their grand achievments i would like to nominate them for historical status. Me101 01:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yes- Xtralife
  2. Yes.. Me101 01:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  3. YES - no need to say more--Zombie Spray 04:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Vantar 04:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes - They deserve historical status even more than Shacknews. Too bad that their downfall was concurrent with the downfall of zombiehood in general... --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Oooh, scary! -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 05:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - I arrived in the wake of the Big Bash: the devastation left behind was obvious --Leo Howard 05:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Abso-frakkin'-lutely. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes - --Specialist290 18:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes - of course.--Gage 19:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  11. Yes Who would say no?!? Robert McFarlane 19:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Doi--Darth Cheney Malton Rangers 21:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes - They deserve it and anything less would be criminal. So if not for me, then do it for SCIENCE! --Mobius187 February 11th, 2007, 8:05 PM (EST)
  14. Yes - Bullgod 08:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes - I'm tempted to say no to be different- they only ransacked a bunch of suburbs. Ferals can do that themselves, mind you they did crash the server a couple of times. Thats fairly historical. --MarieThe Grove on Tour 11:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Obviously. --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 16:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  17. Yes - Good group. --Gut stench FU BAR 17:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  18. Yes - While they are an organized group, they really helped to encourage n00b zombies as more and more in-game undead communication became possible. Affected many suburbs. --MorthBabid 22:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes - DUH. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 10:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes - They did more to change the balance of power than anyone, even if it was for a short while. --Priapus 14:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  21. Yes - The amount of destruction they caused cannot be categorized as anything but historical. --Reaper with no name TJ! 17:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  22. Yes - Of course.--Lachryma 05:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  23. Hell Yeah- APEX ALMIGHTY Talk/Mall Info/ JEJ Awards11:55 A.M., 19 February 2007
  24. Yes - B0ba Fett 02:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  25. Yes - Made a lot of Malton run Red --Antipathy 08:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Results - 25 yes, 0 no. Accepted. Pillsy FT 14:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to all that voted we allowed a notable group to be included into the history books I think i should now move this to archive but i don't have the time, will do so soon though..


Pwotters

No edits to their page since June, and not listed on the stats page. I think these guys are gone. As such, I am nominating them for historical status.--Gage 20:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yes - Gage 20:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Aye - its been a long time since i last heard of them. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 20:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes - I've heard of them several times in my limited study of the game's history, but I've never heard any current news about them. --Reaper with no name TJ! 21:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes - That was fast :P. Like Sonny said they were historical in Stanbury Village and Stanbury Village only, but since it's my home and I was there to drive them away I have to support this. --Bonefiver 21:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I'm about in the same condition as Reaper above: heard a lot, but never faced them (at least knowingly). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 21:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes - They be OG--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes'ems - Yup. --Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 22:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Great group. --Gut stench FU BAR 00:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Sad to see a good zombie group go. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 00:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes - They did make at least one tour outside Stanbury Village, as they showed up and spoiled a protracted resistance against the Drunken Dead in Rhodenbank. As a matter of fact, the Drunken Dead ought to be nominated soon, as they have been inactive longer than the Pwotters. --Schloss Ritter 02:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
    They are still on the stats page though.--Gage 17:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
    Right, I noticed that after I posted here, heh. Sorry. --Schloss Ritter 17:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  11. Hell's yeah these guys helped kick off the first mall tour by taking Nichols Mall and helped us out during the spring picnic. they rocked hardcore when i was but a little zedling so i have nothing but good things to say about them. -Bullgod 01:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  12. No - They insulted girl scouts- no way! --MarieThe Groveon Tour 15:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes - They poked their head into Yagoton from time to time, and when they did? We ALL noticed. Seemed to have a fondness for Police Departments, if I recall correctly. --MorthBabid 23:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes --Xoid 01:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yep - I remember them in Yagoton. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 02:21, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Speaking as the last leader of the Pwotters, I'm sure that all the members who helped turn the centre of Malton blood-red will be proud that the homepage will live on, hopefully as an inspiration to generations of zombies yet to crawl from their graves. --WibbleBRAINS 15:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  17. Yes - They we the horde to fear in Stanbury for a long time, and at its peak was one of the largest of the minor hordes. (ie not RRF, Shacknews, etc.) --GuavaMoment 18:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  18. Yes - absolutely.--Jorm 10:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes - And their page is hilarious.--Lachryma 05:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes - Rest in peace, dear friends. The gooden days of de Mall Tour '06... Ahh... --Rotticus 19:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  21. Yes - Those guys are all over the place. --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 20:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  22. Yes - We were the only light of truth and beauty in this twisted menagerie. Vivé le Homme vers le Haut! — Bartle 05:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  23. Yes - In their heyday, they were a very large and dangerous horde, taking down Nichols Mall many times. Had a lot of fun fighting them. — Antipathy 07:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
  24. Yes -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 01:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
  25. Yes Lemonhead7t7

The Emerald Guard

We were once nominated for historical status, but, at the time we were still active, so after we found out about it, we removed it. But, since then, we have tragically...completly died. So I'd like to renominate (is that even a word?) it. The Emerald Guard, founded and led by the great Melanie Booth, was one of the most famous groups in the games earlier days; a tight-knit group of Irish survivors dedicated to the aid and revivification of its fellow neighbors. One could not go five blocks without seeing some sort of marriage proposal or "tastefull" nude portrait of our fair leader. But, one day she left and never came back. We slowly lost members, until it was just five or six dedicated members. Then, one day she did come back, said she was sorry for leaving, and left again to really never come back. So I took over, and then the group died completly. 'Twas not my fault, I tell you. It was yours, for jinxing us! You should now repent for your sins, by voting yes in a timely fashion. --Otacon 05:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yes - All hail the Emerald Guard!--Otacon 05:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes - --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 05:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Fortuna314 14:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Hell Yes - I miss you Melanie... --YuriRuler90 23:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 23:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  6. No -The groups' Wiki says it is re-grouping. If they want it historic, ten they need to let it die. --Brandon Gustafson 15:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
    It was re-grouping, that was several months ago, right before it died.--Otacon 21:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tyler Rilm 11:23, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  8. Yes - --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 02:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  9. No - Never heard of you guys, and I browse the wiki a LOT. -Ruar 19:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes - In the 2 months I've been here now, this was one of the first groups I've heard of.--Leo Howard 23:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Dude, Melanie Booth is hot. (now waits for Kaz to hit him.) --Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 14:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Sure... why not?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes - They dun did stuff. --Grim s-Mod U! 01:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes -- I remember them.. long time ago though. -- Whitehouse 16:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes -- I was almost gonna join way back in October '05. Sorry to see it pass.--Celt Mac Éireann talkW! 16:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes -- This Greentown group seemed to embody the overall 'essence' of the suburb, even by non-member survivors who decided to make Greentown their home. --MorthBabid 20:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  17. Yes - They were big in the day. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 02:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  18. Yes - Heard of them. Not many names that I can remember off the top of my head, these guys stuck though. I'll give 'em the benefit of the doubt. –Xoid MTFU! 10:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 01:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Assault on Stupid Survivors

Created by the Bobs after Amazing personally threatened to PK Hammero's zombie over being a spy, Hammero and Jimbo Bob decided that Amazing and his moronic policies were just the sort of stupidity that gave the rest of survivordom a bad name. So they teamed up and started PKing the Crossmand Defense Force. The rest is awesome, awesome history. Some of the other groups targeted include The Abandoned, BME, Dulston Defense Death Squad and the Creedy Defense Force.--Gage 08:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yes - of course.--Gage 08:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes - –Xoid MTFU! 09:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 09:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Definitely. Cyberbob  Talk  09:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes - for sure. --GPLeChuck ASS 10:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  6. no - Their last kill was on the 29th, and the had news items reported on the 26th. They're worthy of historical status if they're good and done, but nowhere on their page is a sign that they're calling it quits, nor any communique to Gage cited in the nomination. I'll change my vote following evidence that they're done. Yes No problem, then.--The Envoy 22:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    Xoid is the almighty dictator of the group. He said it was over. It's over.--Gage 23:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
    There. It's official. –Xoid MTFU! 23:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - But respond to the doubts above please. I vote yes assuming that if Xoid voted like that too the group is really done. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Even though I'm not good enough. --CaptainM 18:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  9. yes - just because A.S.S. spawned so many other groups (like A.A.S.S). But I thought they were still active. Asheets 21:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  10. no - They did nothing notable, and their MO was no different to traditional Pkers, who did already deliberately target people who made fools of themselves on the forums. --Grim s-Mod U! 22:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
    I normally respect your opinion even if I disagree with it, but I find this rich. Since, according to you, the Malton DEA is more historical than Shacknews I am hardly surprised. An enigma to the end, Grim s. –Xoid MTFU! 23:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
    Perhaps you should read why i voted against Shacknews before you accidentally swallow your shoe. --Grim s-Mod U! 05:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    I did read it. Timing makes absolutely no difference to the fact that they had an impact, one that will be remembered. Refusing to induct them now on the notion that time is somehow relevant is absurd. We induct groups based on their merits or induct them on their fame. While Shacknews fame may wane in time their merit will not. –Xoid MTFU! 13:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
    You have to understand that i have to take your opinions with a sizable grain of salt since you lead the group, and as such, your opinions cannot be without bias. I honestly feel that you did fuck all. You certainly were not original, you certainly didnt do anything regular PKers were doing, and as far as i can tell, you didnt have a RP kind of life, so explain to me why on earth this would possibly qualify? You were just another group of Pkers, with nothing to elevate you above the pack. --Grim s-Mod U! 00:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
  11. YES! - Huurrrr Grim.... groups in the LOE are legendary!--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 23:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  12. Fuck Yes - I loved those guys, I almost shed a tear when I saw they aren't together anymore. --Mayor Fitting 01:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes --The Surgeon GeneralDHPD|P! 03:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes - I finally decided to read their page. I got about a quarter of the way down and gave up. If it's too long for me to read, they have to be historical.--Labine50 MH|ME|P 07:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yep they were pretty damn stylish. -Bullgod 11:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  16. No - Meh, they culled the weak... a pitiful objective -- boxy T L PA DA 11:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    We attacked some of the larger groups in the game. I hardly see how they were weak. Well, except in mind.--Gage 12:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    Bring any down did'ya? -- boxy T L PA DA 12:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    We certainly brought the CrossmanDF to its knees. Cyberbob  Talk  03:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  17. No - I know of them, but in my almost six months of play, I've seen no evidence of their work or impact.--J Muller 03:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  18. Yes - They viciously culled the retard population of Malton with an efficency that made Shacknews look bad. --Cap'n Silly 12:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Just the name of it forces me to vote yes. --Kamden 00:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes - maybe no actual historical status in malton but neither do most groups whose pages desevre to be saved. Though my only encountour was when I spent the night in a PD outside of Judgewood and they frequently killed someone I knew lokijester... --MarieThe Grove 12:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  21. Yes - Now why wouldn't a member vote yes to this? --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 14:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    Because he still shows up as being an active member according to his UD profile? -- boxy T L PA DA 14:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    Are you talking about me? --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 14:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    Not any more... -- boxy T L PA DA 15:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  22. Yes - For services to the City of Malton --Karloth Vois RR 14:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  23. Yes - Proudly. --Rotticus 20:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  24. Yes --General Lee A. Dickhole Malton Rangers 04:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
  25. Yes -I hate to see a good PKer group disband, but they did some nice PKing while they were around. Cheers! to all former members of A.S.S.--Headless gunner 06:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  26. yes --They had style-- Noc 00:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
    No -- Never heard of them -- Poodle of Doom You can remove the strike, the indentation and this comment when you provide a timestamp. Cyberbob  Talk  00:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  27. Yes--Amanu Jaku 01:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  28. No OMFG THEY KILLED PEEPS!!!!111one Sorry, but a group that PKs, even with a seminoble agenda is not revolutionary--Agent White W!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 16:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  29. Yes -- anyone who helped with the bringdown of Amazing deserves this --Amanofpower CFT W! 18:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  30. Yes -- Taking on the CDF was so much fun. Such a great war. --Brendoshi 18:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  31. Yes - you're famous. -Ruar 19:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  32. Yes - In the 2 months I've been here now, this was one of the first groups I've heard of.--Leo Howard 23:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  33. yes Asheets 00:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  34. Yes - Long live the infamy of great PKer groups ShinobiSlider 09:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The Gray

They were originally nominated on 30th November and the only reason they didn't make it is they were two votes short of the minimum 15 required. Come on folks, if we can get 60+ for Shacknews we can get 15 for these guys. See the original nomination here. Pillsy FT 10:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes - Let them in. Pillsy FT 10:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Gage 11:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - It just always seems the zombie groups yet in more often than the survivor groups. Probably zombies can make more of a difference to Malton with less numbers while groups that stay and make a difference to just one suburb are unheard of in this wiki because of fewer active voting members... --MarieThe Grove 12:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Actually, Marie, I think the issue is less about the impact they make, more about the differing natures of zombie groups versus survivor groups. Survivors tend to stick around, since they have no specific goals. The admirable efforts of BBB notwithstanding, it's basically impossible to force zombies to vacate an area. Survivors can, however, be routed, and so zombies work toward goals (taking Caiger, say). There are only a limited number of goals available, and so zombie groups disband after having acheived them. Survivors stick around (and thus don't become historical) because theirs are more persistant goals, such as improving the safety of burbs or whatever. That said, go The Gray. Mac Howard 00:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - when someone mentions scary zombie groups the gray is who i think of. one of the great ones, their name still only wispered by survivors. ok, maby thats a little too melodramatic, but you get my point. - Bullgod 05:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 06:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Altough making a brief analysis of the merits of The Gray, you can say that if today another horde with the same caracteristics appeared in Malton, it would NOT deserve historical status. It's fairly normal for big enough Zombie groups to have a nomadic lifestyle, "spreading the love" trough a little ammount of suburbs, and the grade of coordination shown by The Gray is hardly comparable with the one shown by Shacknews. It WAS special, but for the early stages of the game. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. Yes - come on... -- Rotticus 15:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes --The Surgeon General DHPD 18:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes --GrownUpSurvivor 18:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes --Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 20:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes --Labine50 MH|ME|P 00:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 15:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes Of course. BTW, 15 votes is way too high. Why are people so eager to erase history?! Bluetigers 05:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes Make it 15. Even I have heard of them. --Cdrwcry 01:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 20:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  17. no because they didn't get in on their 1st nomination Asheets 21:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
    That's simply too stupid. Even for you.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 00:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    LMAO--Gage 07:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
    Seconded. Chalk up another one for the list of funny shit.--J Muller 01:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  18. Yes -- Honor the valiant who die by your sword, but pity the warrior who slays all his foes. --MorthBabid 00:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes --Kamden 00:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes--Headless gunner 06:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  21. Yes-- Poodle of Doom
  22. Yes--Amanu Jaku 01:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  23. Yes -- i guess you guys got it without my vote anyway:) --Amanofpower CFT W! 18:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  24. yes Asheets 00:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The Gray claim to have returned, and the original, historic, page has been moved to The Gray/2006 -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:01 1 October 2009 (BST)

Shacknews

This was the deadliest horde in UD history; what the Mall Tour '06 attempted (a thorough smashing of every mall in Malton, including invincible Caiger), Shacknews accomplished. As they have now been declared disbanded after whacking Giddings, let's give them the historical mention they deserve. --Ivan Romanov 05:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes -Author vote. --Ivan Romanov 05:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes -Most effective UD group ever IMO. --Echoess 11:01, 19 December 2006
  3. Yes - Personally I would have waited a little longer for the disbanding to actually have some effect on the stats, but there's really no reason to deny this group their rightful place in history. These guys rocked. -- ∀lan Watson T·RVP 07:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Hell Yes - Though, to be fair, there are still a number of lesser malls left standing; they're also wasting a golden oppurtunity to lay waste to every last human in Malton. Still, this group was historic the moment it took Caiger, and it should be remembered as such. --Gateking 10:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - They may only have been around a few months but they did things that no other zombie horde mamanged before them. (Though I do doubt believe it was a hell of a lot easier to beat Caiger with all thepro zombie changes in the game really meant they couldn't lose). --MarieThe Grove 10:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - "Few" members from Shacknews (171 at the moment) are still listed on statistics, but after groups is officially disbanded, I'd give it Historical status. -- J.Well] 11:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yes - This group lay waste to caiger and some other malls. The most recent of which is Giddings Mall. A group that could lay waste to malls such as Caiger and Giddings deserves to have a place in history.
    Unsigned vote struck. Pillsy FT 14:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes - The Envoy 12:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. Yes- Hell yes--Captain911 13:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Showed the whole game how organisation can defeat anything. Pillsy FT 14:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - There shouldn't even be a vote for this. Torec T-CC 15:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes - They will live forever in infamy. -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 15:39, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes - These guys are about as influencing and historical as you can get. We won't forget their ranshacking for a long time.--Lachryma 15:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes - No question. These guys struck terror into every human they came across. A suburb became instantly VERY DANGEROUS the second they moved in. SniffleNose 16:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Yes. They beat Caiger. That alone should be enough to get them Historical Status. Daniel Sheppard
  15. Yes - I agree with Daniel. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 17:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  16. Yes - GRAAGH! One of the most effective hordes ever. --ZuluDeacon 17:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  17. Yes - TauronTalk GRR! 21:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  18. Yes- Doi. --Dickhole Bonaparte Leader, Malton Rangers 21:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Well Brought Indeed. DrWayCool
  20. Fuck Yes - I fought against them at Caiger and with them at Giddings. These guys rock and finally got people to realise there is nothing special about Caiger, Giddings and Blackmore. If a suburb, mall or building was their target, it didn't last long.--Mayor Fitting 22:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  21. Yes- I worked with them during the siege of Giddings and they functioned like a well oiled machine. They deserve a place in history.--Franz Molotov 22:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yes- I fought them at Blackmore, Caiger and Giddings, they were worthy opponents and will have a lasting impact on both how Survivors fight, and have all those whiners stop whining about how zeds are weak.
    Unsigned vote struck. –Xoid MTFU! 22:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  22. Yes Best. Horde. Ever. Rheingold 22:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  23. Almighty Fuck Yes - They've had the biggest impact a group has ever had, or ever will IMO. –Xoid MTFU! 22:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  24. Definitely The most coordinated horde that took out Caiger deserves to be historically remembered.Jambalaya 23:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    Speedydelete ;) -- boxy T L PA DA 23:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    Just cleanned up Metalguard's mistake. Thank you for confusing new voters, boxy. –Xoid MTFU! 23:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    All part of the service -- boxy T L PA DA 02:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  25. YES They were so coordinated and were a complete undead slughter machine. All i heard on the raidio frequencies was stuff like "OMFG Shacknews!! We've been breached!! 100 zombies inside!! we're done for!!" and then a couple hours or a day later i'd find bulletins in the suburb wiki about what mall they took down. Over and over again. Definitely historical worthy! Metalguard 6:32pm EST December 19th, 2006 (UTC)
  26. Yes - Without a doubt. --The Surgeon General 23:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  27. Yes - These guys were great, they invited us to more than a few attacks, including Caiger. They introduced us to tactics that sounded completely insane but somehow worked flawlessly. They came to this game in great numbers, they conquered, and now they leave as quickly as they appeared. in my opinion one of the greatest groups in Urban Dead history. --Bullgod 02:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  28. Yes Give! --Virus002 03:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  29. Yes- Absolutely. --Gut stench FU BAR 03:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  30. Yes- They completely changed Urban Dead, they brought fear and fun back into the game. There aren't many who more deserve this honor, and I'm sure as hell gonna miss them.--Lord Wulfgar 05:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    You're one of the classiest humans we've met, Lord Wulfgar. It was an honor to have fought against you. --Chronolith 02:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  31. Yes - No more Shacknews? First I've heard of it. But anyway, definitely yes. Both my survivors were taken down by them (one at both battles of Blackmore and one at Stickling) and my zed feasted on their leavings at Giddings.--J Muller 06:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  32. Yes - You'd have to be blind or deaf (or both), to have not heard about Shacknews. --Vikermac 09:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  33. Yes - Same as Vikermac. --Zombie slay3r 15:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  34. Yes - As good as they come. Blackzilla1 17:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  35. Yes - I mean, who can say no? - Nine 18:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  36. Yes - They were cool. -- Andrew McM W! 18:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  37. Yes - I must say yes, to the finest group of mumbling zed heads, who ever walked the streets of Malton. They were a glory to fight agaisnt, and many indeed. Axe27 20:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  38. Yes -- From what I hear they are the most successfull zombie group in the game when it comes to sieges. -- Whitehouse 22:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  39. No -- They did not do anything nobody did before them. And organisation? Remember the Gray? 6 people bursting into Caiger, twice a day, almost every day. On the heyday of survivor overbarricading in Caiger. Stickling Mall? Giddings? Fucking suburb of Yagoton? The Gray devoured stickling and managed to disrupt and bring the Yagoton Reviv Clinic to a grinding halt with 15 people active in total? Thats organisation. So you can shove your dear belowed Shacknews up your collective places where the sun dont shine. -- Rotticus 23:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    ...because sneaking 6 people into a mall that was barely putting up any feasible resistance is harder than coordinating several multi-wave 150+ zombie attacks on numerous targets where the defenders typically out number attackers 4 to 1 while also holding all relevant outlying resource buildings, stopping revive lines and organizing the ferals. It's not as though Shacknews ended up destroying every single target they engaged regardless of odds or anything.--Kentor 02:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
    You mistake me for someone who cares. We were first and we were even more vastly outnumbered than Shacknews. Organising ferals? WHO THE FUCK BROUGHT IN THE FERALS FOR THE FIRST MOMENT INTO THE FIGHT YOU TWAT! You think that we would have been able to annihilate Stickling back then alone? No. We always had our personal feral horde which we bloody used in ways of tactical sense when the first appeared. Shacknews is no different than us, other than perhaps in magnitude. My point still stands tho. They did not do anything nobody did before them. So shove it youngin. --Rotticus 01:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
    This is not the place for you beating your own chest Rotticus. You might have done some good things back in the days, but let's face it, you never achieved even close to the succeess that Shacknews did. They annihilated everything in their path and showed just how nasty a massive, well meta-coordinated horde could be. No matter how much it hurts your ego, Shacknews did more, and better, things than you ever did. It doesn't mean you are forgotten or bad, just that you aren't the big kids on the block. I never quaked at the thought of the Gray, I saw people leave Malls the same minute Shacknews announced their attacks though.--Gethsemani 10:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  40. Yes -- They breached Caiger, a feat which was supposed to be impossible. No reason not to remember them as a historic group. --Flogging Molly 00:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  41. Yes -- Just taking Caigher is historical enough. --Gethsemani 09:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  42. Yes -- If they are not historic, then the historical groups category shouldn't exist--GrownUpSurvivor 14:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  43. Yes -- If anyone votes 'no' they deserve a slap. *slaps Rotticus* --Officer Otep 15:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    *slaps a retarded little kiddo who thinks he was there when Malton history was made* Go away and go fuck your hand by the way out. Amazing might even be impressed. Not that it took much to impress him. - Rotticus 02:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  44. Yes - Godfuckdamn I can't believe I missed these guys. - CthulhuFhtagn 21:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  45. Yes -- If you say no then you've obviously not seen almost 200 zombies rush a single area in 5 minutes. --YuriRuler90 21:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  46. Yes - as a survivor I'm glad to see them go--Zombie Spray 22:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  47. Yes - Rotticus can die. --Joe O'Wood TALKCONTRIBSUD 00:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
    Kids who dont know when its time to stop being a threndwhore can die. - Rotticus 02:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  48. Yes - And I'm sad to hear that they're gone. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 13:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  49. Yes - they came, they saw, they ate brains. --Funt Solo Scotland flag.JPG 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  50. Yes - I have never seen a horde like them, and I doubt I ever will. They were the most powerful group in the game's entire history. --Reaper with no name TJ! 18:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  51. Yes - A no-brainer... which is how a lot of survivors ended up. --Barbecue Barbecue 20:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  52. Yes - My feral zombie alt joined in the rampage while my human laughed at Caiger getting ransaked. They brought an element of danger ive missed since the Big Bash. PS Rotticus - organising 300 is a lot harder than organising 15. -- Samtheman 12:51 Dec 23rd (GMT)
    Whats new in organising anyone? WHATS NEW IN AYNTHING THEY FUCKING DID?!? NOTHING. - Rotticus 02:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  53. Yes - I cannot see any possible argument against having Shacknews as a historical group. In my opinion, which is somewhat biased, Shacknews was one of the most effective zombie groups ever.--Kentor 02:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  54. Yes - Why do people say that Caiger was invicible? It had a lot of people at the time of the Mall Tour. All Shacknews did was catch it when there were less in the followup from Ridleybank's Invasion. I'm voting yes not because if Caiger but because of all the malls in Malton. --Whap 08:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  55. Yes - ...ok, so I have no cool snappy comment to add, bite me. --Jenx 21:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  56. Yes - Amazing what a little coordination can do. A special shout-out to the ferals that followed the instructions in the Ferals Blog, though; towards the end of Shacknews's career, the Shack-ferals were the most potent Shack-weapon in the Shack-arsenal. Which was like the cheer-arsenal of a cheerocracy, but different. As more brains were involved. Zing. --New Coldness 22:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
    Which proves the Shacknews patheticness. They have to use blogs to actually be able to organise ferals. What, groans too low-tech for yah? Here's a fucking ZARBRAHZ! up your pathetic arse. - Rotticus 02:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  57. Aye! - There is not an enthusiastic enough way to say yes. I still do not understand the "appelflappen" joke, but notwithstanding, my vote is solid. Mac Howard 09:04, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  58. Yes - I'll miss the horde, but look forward to appelflappen, limes, and sand in the future. ZombGrrl 13:50, 24 December 2006 (EST) (Sorry I don't know what the UTC is, maybe someone can convert for me)
  59. Yes - The only thing I would have asked for is a rematch. They ran away without ever completly devouring us, the Knights Templar. - poodle of doom
  60. Yes - I think they deserve it. --Lt. Raptor 09:32, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  61. Yes - So, when does this become official? Shacknews is down to 42 people in its group on the stats page, far below the past 200-250 active in the group (on stats page... 300+ total in reality). There is no longer any organized activity, and all past members have been (repeatedly) advised to remove Shacknews from their profile. I'm guessing the last 40 are just wandering around as ferals, or waiting for the 5 day idle time. --Pchem 03:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  62. No - while the core was more organized than most, this group was really just another rehashing of The Mall Tour/Big Bash/etc. Every few months a giant horde of zombie players, mostly consisting of the same folks as the previous mob, gets together and tearasses through Malton. Is it noteworthy? Of course, when they're heading in your direction or munching on your teammates. Is it historical? Hardly, since it's merely another phase of a constantly repeating pattern. The mere suggestion here is a waste of time. --Aiden H 4H 05:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    ...and by "more organized than most" you mean "the most organized triple digit group of zombies ever," right? Taking down Caiger is not historical? Are you just bitter that 4H's home of Huntley Heights is still red/dangerous after Shacknews merely happenned to pass through it between sieges? --Pchem 20:34, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    They did? I had no idea. HH has been a hotspot ever since Shearbash, which was a couple months prior to Shacknews' existance, and frankly I've been playing less and less as of late, thanks to holiday activities and an increased offline workload. Bitterness has nothing to do with it, I just feel Shacknews was another recent zed flavor of the week. Though, to their credit, they were very well organized.. As you stated. --Aiden H 4H 04:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
    Fair enough, your vote is your own. Since we're talking history though, the Shearbank wiki discussion page first mentions Shearbash on October 8 (and the 4H page mentions it on Sep 21). The Shacknews wiki page has a historical timeline which notes that Shacknews formed in early September, and overran its first mall (Pole Mall) on October 3. So, Shearbash was certainly not "a couple months prior to Shacknews' existence" --Pchem 04:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
    History? Shacknews is a fucking rehash of every mall tour/big bash/whatever similar happend ever in Malton. Also, the little threndwhores around here could actually grow a bloody brain. Caiger was never taken as people lost interest in the mall, since it was too boring to even bother with conquering. After the Mall Tour at least. And the last time i was there, the numbers were solidly below 300 in all corners...(before the kill ofcourse you trendwhorish twats.) - Rotticus 02:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
    Man, look at all of Rotticus' posts in this section. Is he just an ass, or what? Are there any mods watching this? Anyway, several hundred survivors and zombies would disagree with his analysis of why Caiger had never fallen before. I think Rotticus' hard-on for Shacknews should force his vote to be changed from No to Yes. It's obviously historical to him! --Pchem 21:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  63. Yes - Taking down Caiger Mall for the first time ever is historical. Organizing giant hordes that go undefeated in every major encounter is historical. Just because some of the same elements were recruited for the battles fought by Shacknews as were fought by previous uberhordes does not mean their collective accomplishments should be collapsed into an undifferentiated mass of statistics. Experiment IV 22:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  64. No - Who? :D--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  65. Ya Ich bein ein Appleflaven MrAushvitz Canadianflag-sm.jpg 13:38, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  66. Yes - It's so funny to see how the most notorious zombie players deny the historical status of the Blackmore Bastard Brigade, and how almost all human players approve of this one. Kudos to the human players. And to Shacknews, of course. Robin Robinson 08:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  67. Yes - I've actually heard of this group in the short time I've been here. If something is really historical people keep talking about it. So while It may be a little early to judge Shacknews, at the current time it does seem that they would qualify for the status of historical --Leo Howard 19:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  68. Yes --Labine50 MH|ME|P 00:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  69. Yes--Kristi of the Dead 23:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  70. Yes - Of course. I know they ate me at least once. --Uncle Bill 17:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
  71. Rest in little apple-flavoured pieces. YES. --ExplodingFerret 18:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
  72. Nope - They havent been around long enough to make a lasting impact on the game. They did one thing and that was all. 1 thing doesnt make a historical group. -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 23:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
  73. No - Because you only just left. Give it a few months, so recent events can become history. --Grim s-Mod U! 04:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  74. Yes - Because I admired their orgnanisation and flair, even while I was being eaten by them.--Headland Jon 01:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  75. Yes - They achieved a higher level of organization then any other zombie group in history. They caused the first ever fall of Caiger. They should not be forgotten. --SteelVortex2 10:40, 4 January 2007 (EST)

Malton DEA

PKer group that targeting Necrotech buildings and NT personnel. They were pretty big too if I remember correctly.

  1. Yes - Even I have heard of these guys.--Gage 09:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. No - I haven't--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 09:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - I will support the RRF PKer alt group for vague and unspecified reasons. -- ∀lan Watson T·RVP 09:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes - --Empress of Moldovi 09:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Absolutely. A couple are still around, though they don't kill in the name of the DEA. (Disclaimer: I'm a founding member.)--Jorm 10:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - I ran with them for a time. We were the only group that actually bothered to do any RPing at all (Then or since). "MALTON DEA! FREEZE MOTHERFUCKERS!" --Grim s-Mod U! 10:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    Not true. Check out Pavor Nocturnus. Lexda 05:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
    This was fully 9 months before your group was created, dude.--Jorm 06:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. yes -These guys did alot for the PKer cause. And always with style. --Stroth MotA 10:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. yes - They were a fun group --Kasz 9:28, 4 December 2006 (AEST)
  9. Yes - I remember being killed by one of their members. Pillsy FT 11:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Hahaha, these guys were hilarious, if you were ever hit by them, you know you gotta vote yes --phungus420 1107, 4 DEC 06 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Was hoping they were still around.--The Envoy 11:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes - The DEA had an impact. --Xoid 11:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes - Definitely. Cyberbob  Talk  11:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Hell yes. Slaughtering almost 40 some people (including me, THREE TIMES) in a NecroTech in a single night, over and over again, earns them a spot. --YuriRuler90 13:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. 'Yes - They were all OVER the place, and well played out as well as well designed. I'm sure they'll rise up again, but till then? Lets remember what they were up to. --MorthBabid 18:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  16. No - Its déjà vu! They are still active- probably not on such a large scale but they are still active. Helped bring Judgewood for the second time this year, have a rather large personal assualt on The Grove often work closely with Zombie Inc. otherwise known as the Z-Team whom I link with the now defunct Ars Requiem. Active profiles I have are Smoke D Tekter, Mo Brains and Akeichi san. However the Z-Team are known for faking memberships to other groups so they may just be using Malton DEA as a name. Whichever. If I'm wrong I'll change my vote. --MarieThe Grove 18:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC) #Yes - I kept my word didn't I? --MarieThe Grove 20:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    You will notice above that Jorm (a founding member) says they are gone.--Gage 18:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yeah; if there are people with DEA tags, it's probably because they forgot to change them (or simply don't care). The group is dead; we've even moved the sekret forum into our "archive" forum.--Jorm 18:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    Ahh well that would be because I'm half blind half stupid ;) I wasn't sure if it was guys with tags or whatever but I knew someone with a tag was active. Fair enough... Vote chnaging... --MarieThe Grove 20:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  17. Yes -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 09:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  18. No-- They were not active for a long time. The group seemed shourt lived.--Apex 11:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    They were active from as early as December 2005 to as recently as April 2006. Thats five months. Most definately not short lived. --Grim s-Mod U! 18:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    Aye; the DEA was around at least three times as long as you've been playing the game.--Jorm 18:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    Is that the sweet sound of justice I smell?--Gage 01:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  19. Yes-- I had heard about them.--Mayor Fitting 02:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  20. Yep- I remember hearing about them. Unfortunately, I never quite got round to anything more. --The Supreme Court RR 16:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  21. Yes - Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 12:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  22. Yes - Absolutely. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 10:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  23. Yes - Trust me. Part of a long history of groups from a network of veteran players. These guys are the stylish of Malton’s disreputibles. RP above all. Lets retire the name with respect -- bbrraaiinnss 13:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  24. Yes - I even got targetted once!--Gethsemani 11:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  25. Nope - Never heard of them. -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 18:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
    I'm surprised! We went into Buttonville and killed everyone in every NT there once. --Jorm 21:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
    I'm serious. I've played the game for about a year and I've never heard about them once. -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 22:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  26. Yes - The 2nd largest PKer group ever made deserves it. - CthulhuFhtagn 14:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  27. Yes - What the last guy said. --Zap 17:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  28. Yes --Amanofpower CFT W! 17:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yes -- It's all said there already. Can't say that I liked 'em, but they kicked ass. -- J.Well 11:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    Vote after deadline struck. Pillsy FT 09:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yes -- Most definately. --Kibbs 23:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    Vote after deadline struck. Pillsy FT 09:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Voting Closed - 18th December 2006
  • Yes - 26
  • No - 2
  • Verdict - Group made historical. Pillsy FT 09:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Ars Requiem

Was nominated before here, but that was early in the new system's life and there was some confusion as to its continued activites. Now I think it deserves a second chance. -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 10:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Voting ended 5th December. Voting passed, group now historical. Pillsy FT 10:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  1. Yes - I was suprised this wasn't voted in last time, they should get in this time. They were still active when I joined and they had an impact.Pillsy FT 10:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes - and no other way.--Gage 15:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Worthy of it, more so than a lot of the schlock that has been nominated recently. –Xoid MTFU! 15:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes - I know what I said last time but people had a point- if its under a new name then this one is old. --MarieThe Grove 17:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Finally, Thanks everyone. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes Sad but true; Theyse dead. --MorthBabid 04:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  8. Yes -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 07:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes -- Officer Otep 12:12, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes -- Asheets 21:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes -- I had heard of them way back when I was green in UD.--Mayor Fitting 23:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes -Bullgod 17:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes - Sure, hao, si, and I don't remember any other way to say yes... --Axe Hack 21:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes - --The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - I think I've heard of them.--Labine50 MH|ME|P 06:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Pretty obvious one. --Rgon 19:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  17. yes Asheets 18:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Paradox*

Another oldie group. I personally don't know about them but they were once big. Really big. They had central eastern Malton once. Woodroffe Mall I believe. Xyu was also a member at some time if I recall. --Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 23:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes - --Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 23:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 01:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Man, I never thought these guys would go by the wayside. They had staying power. -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 02:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 03:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - i've seen a couple people still active with that affiliation, but the group is clearly done and gone. -Bullgod 05:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Xyu, a member of a survivor group??? It must be old. Pillsy FT 08:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes I never understood these guys. --Ron Burgundy 22:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Fort Paradox. --Sgt. Expendable 00:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes - I remember roughing it up with them in Fort Paradox! Good times! --YuriRuler90 01:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - I've heard of the above, and that's good enough for me.--Labine50 MH|ME|P 05:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Thought they too were still active... ah well... --Agent White WTFW!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 20:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Astram Loccasin bedtime, 19 November 2006
  13. Yes --Winnan 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
  14. No For as big a group as some are claiming, their pages don't have a lot of quantity. Asheets 18:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Definitely. They had a noticable impact on the game, from what vets. have told me. Even if they are exaggerating their tales, Paradox is old enough and famous enough for historical status, regardless of anything else. Also; as Agent White. –Xoid MTFU! 01:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  16. Yes -- Officer Otep 12:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  17. Hell yes -- Started killing the PH even before S.T.A.R.S. They helped us out a decent amount way back when. I also heard about Fort Paradox.--Mayor Fitting 23:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  18. Yes - They are gone!!! Well they were a great group. - Whitehouse 23:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Tompson Mall Irregulars

As allies of the hisorical group 4 Corners Regulators, the Tompson Mall Irregulars helped shape tradition in SW Malton, Lockettside and of course Tompson Mall. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 20:50, 26 October 2006 (BST)

See also: January_Siege_of_Tompson_Mall and Distributed Defense
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  1. Yes - Dedicated Survivors. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 20:50, 26 October 2006 (BST)
  2. Yes - I have heard tales of hideous and horrbile slaughter, but I also heard of the TMI, good stories. Pillsy FT 21:37, 26 October 2006 (BST)
  3. Yes - From what I've heard? This group is indeed no more, but small bands of PKers are 'defaming' this groups name by adopting it/claiming to be members of the original group. Best to archive the good memories now. --MorthBabid 21:50, 26 October 2006 (BST)
  4. Yes Their name has always amused me. I don't know why. --Ron Burgundy 09:31, 27 October 2006 (BST)
  5. Yes - Need I a reason? Well better to keep it today than to delete it tommorow. --MarieThe Grove 11:06, 27 October 2006 (BST)
  6. Yes - Definitely. –Xoid STFU! 11:36, 27 October 2006 (BST)
  7. Yes - Bullgod 21:00, 27 October 2006 (BST)
  8. Yes - Conndrakamod T CFT 10:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 21:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Flogging Molly 21:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 08:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes --Officer Otep 12:14, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  13. No Asheets 16:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes They predate my start in UD by a huge margin and i've still heard of em. Hell yeah! -Rotticus 16:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - You can never have too much information about TMI. -- Alan Watson T·RPM 12:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  16. yes - Another fine group from the early days.--Rizo299 18:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  17. Yes --Winnan 03:08, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
  18. Yes -good guys --Officer betty 14:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
  19. Yes - I'm proud to say I'm once part of the TMI. --Wan2tri 02:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Voting succeeded. Marked Historical. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 05:27, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


Church of New Eden

This group seems to no longer be active in game. They were one of the first groups to embrace the Death Cultist philosophy and should be considered as a candidate for entry into the Historical Groups Category. Their manifesto should most likely be merged with their group page or vice versa. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:00, 4 October 2006 (BST)

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  1. Yes --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:00, 4 October 2006 (BST)
  2. Yes --Grant Page 19:19, 4th October 2006 (GMT)
  3. Yes --Ron Burgundy 03:51, 5 October 2006 (BST)
  4. Yes -- Since I put it up for deletion I shall repent. Pillsy FT 09:03, 5 October 2006 (BST)
  5. Yes -- Sounds good. Labine50 MHG|MalTel 15:06, 5 October 2006 (BST)
  6. Yes -- Do merge the two sections. They used to be quite the formidible group, but have since faded away. --MorthBabid 17:15, 5 October 2006 (BST)
  7. Yes --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 19:11, 5 October 2006 (BST)
  8. Yes Because if I had it my way all groups would be added. --Rogue 06:04, 6 October 2006 (BST)
  9. Yes --Karloth vois RR 14:22, 6 October 2006 (BST)
  10. Yes --Gage 23:55, 7 October 2006 (BST)
  11. Yes--Mayor Fitting 05:11, 8 October 2006 (BST)
  12. Yes--The first death cultist I ever killed was a New Edenite. Ahhh, memories... Aiden H 4H 07:20, 8 October 2006 (BST)
  13. Yes -- Now someone go and get two more voters. Conndrakamod T CFT 12:15, 13 October 2006 (BST)
  14. Yes--Gut stench 03:44, 14 October 2006 (BST)
  15. Yes - --MarieThe Grove 14:02, 14 October 2006 (BST)
  16. Yes - Why not? –Xoid STFU! 05:17, 16 October 2006 (BST)
  17. Yes -- Asheets 00:08, 17 October 2006 (BST)
  18. Yes -- Francis Farmer 11:55, 20 October 2006 (AEST)
Voting succeeded. Marked Historical. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 20:22, 24 October 2006 (BST)

The Shining Ones

Another large zombie group. I know there are still 19 members on the stats page, but they must be hold off or in it for the nostalgia, because there is no organized TSO anymore. Xyu told me this himself over IRC. Isn't it sad to see good groups go?--Gage 07:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

  1. Of course - Gage 07:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Well they were big and deadly once. kasz 18:07, 6 Feburary 2007 (AEST)
  3. Yep - ZH!N!NG ANZ! -Xyu 07:10, 06 February 2007 (GMT)
  4. Yes - One of the classic hordes, that left their mark all over Malton. Dangermouse 07:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. Absolutely - --Jorm 07:38, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes - I'm surprised these guys are no longer playing.--Headless gunner 16:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - The first zombie to kill OnlyMatt was one of them. That's historical =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - I never ran into them, and still know who they are. --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 17:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes - I was wondering what happpened to them. --MorthBabid 18:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. BARHAH! - That's a yes for those harmanz who don't understand rudimentary Zamgrh. ~ Deyd 20:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  11. Yes Like 'em or hate 'em, the Shining Ones made a mark on Malton, and the Wiki should remember it.--Bassander 20:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  12. Yes A legendary group, they deserve to be honoured. Robert McFarlane 20:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes --Specialist290 01:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes Another memorable mob. I still recall the day my feral zed was witness to The Shining One himself giving orders to his mob. --Schloss Ritter 08:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes So that's where they went. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 09:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes Frankly, they were one of the better groups I've fought--Agent White W!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 17:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  17. Yes - About time they died too. --MarieThe Grove on Tour 21:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  18. Yes - Without question. Shine on! --Gut stench FU BAR 21:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Another sad say for zombies. --Mayor Fitting 03:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  20. Yes - What Gut Stench said. --Zorinth 06:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  21. Darn Tootin'! they kicked ass and every one knows it. -Bullgod 10:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  22. Yes - As all the above. --Reaper with no name TJ! 15:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  23. Yes --Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 02:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  24. Yes - Vantar 04:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  25. Yes - Abso-frakkin'-lutely. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  26. Yes - Its very sad to see them fade out. Shine on you crazy zambahz! --Priapus 14:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  27. Yes Good lord Yes! APEX ALMIGHTY Talk/Mall Info/ JEJ Awards11:57 A.M., 19 February 2007
Vote passed; marking historical. --Jorm 07:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Randallbank Coalition

They were one of the first (and most honorable) of the foes of the RRF. They're currently up for speedy deletion, and they don't deserve that. They had a lasting impact because it was their presence that led to the formation of many zombie tactics as well as political alliances.

This is past the two week voting period. What now?--Jorm 04:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  1. Yes - Author vote.--Jorm 10:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 06:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes - one of Gray's first enemies. --Rotticus 19:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes - --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 18:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Any enemy of the RRF is alright in my book. Lemonhead7t7 00:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes -Mark 22:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Considering how few survivor groups there even ARE in Randallbank, I think one of this size deserves its place in history. --MorthBabid 23:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - I'll take Jorm's word for it.--Gage 23:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes - They changed Randallbank for the good and had a lasting effect. --Vikermac 06:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yes, I remember fighting against them --kasz 17:54, 6 Feburary 2007 (AEST)
  11. Yes - Remember fighting these guys in Tynte once or twice, even though they should've stayed in Randallbank. :D -Xyu 07:12, 6 February, 2007 (GMT)
  12. Yes --Specialist290 01:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  13. Yes As Gage. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 09:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  14. Yes One group that should not be forgoten --Matt 15:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes Famous name from corner to corner of Malton --Schloss Ritter 12:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  16. Yes Vantar 04:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  17. Yes - Abso-frakkin'-lutely. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  18. NO - Sorry, I chosed not to vote on this, but I just discovered something: They still have 11 guys on the stats page. I was under the impression that their forums were active too, but it's just some kind of adbot. I'll change my vote in case that someone has official confirmation that the group was dissolved. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 21:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone sent an e-mail to their contact at: randallbank@gmail.com ? --MorthBabid 22:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I did. Still no response. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Vote passed; marking historical. --Jorm 07:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

LUE

As of today (Feb. 25, 2008) LUE marks its official retirement from UD. LUE was a mega zombie horde formed by the GameFAQs messageboard LUE on June 19, 2007 around the time of the Yahoomas event. Since then they stirred up panic and terror in the hearts of survivors only occasionally rivaled by other zombie groups. LUE has ransacked 19 of the 20 malls (including Caiger Mall, causing only its second ransacking by zombie forces) and both forts, with group numbers reaching into the mid 300s. They are the only horde to ransack two malls at the same time: Hildebrand Mall and Nichols Mall both fell on July 24, 2007 after being besieged by two halves of LUE's main group. LUE was able to stay within the top 3 groups on the stats page for several months before an eventual decline in membership, and even snagged the #1 spot around the time that they ransacked Caiger with other zombie groups. Their use of super coordinated attacks and sheer numbers led to attacks of unprecedented ferocity, at times getting 100+ zombies inside a target within just 10 minutes of the intended attack time.

  1. Yes - Greatest zombie horde ever. Change the way how the game was played.--LuE Colo 7:00, 25 February 2008 (EST)
  2. Yes - They were great while they lasted. :D -- Cheese 00:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  3. Yes --Karekmaps?! 00:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  4. Yarr --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 00:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  5. Yes - How could I say no to this? --Zombie in Pajamas 04:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  6. Yes -And not just because I'm a LUEser. Our heyday wasn't hugely long, but while it lasted we were among the most powerful forces the game has ever seen.--Panthera 04:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  7. Yes - I hated LUE, but I did join the game to fight them, so sure.--Xshu 05:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Target Zombie and Tikhoners offer you free Poofs on your way out. A fun, eventful time it was fighting with you. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  9. Yes - I agree TZ, they deserve a few Poofs, it's a sad day, seeing such an infamous group end. --BlobdudeTalk TM MC 23:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  10. Yes - There's 36 members even now, at least according to the stats page. --Toejam 02:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  11. Yes - We can! LUE reemphasized how there's no place on the map that is permanently safe from zombies. --Aeon17x 01:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Brona 03:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  13. Yes - Their impact was significant. Even after they went into decline, their name could strike fear. - Bisfan 03:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  14. Yes - The way the veteran AMS members talk about them, they were one of the mightiest coordinated hordes in the game. Russell Oakley 01:30, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Greatest zombie horde ever, if you ask me. --Lejes 19:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Someday LUE will come back, but until then, that horde deserves the title of biggest strike team ever. --Jakio 20:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  17. Yes - It'd be great if I could remember my old LUE account name though.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 23:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  18. Yes - There's nothing like a decent horde to shake stuff oup. Defenately historical.--SeventythreeTalk 23:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Hell's yeah skippy. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 03:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  20. Yes - We came out of nowhere and got the first ruin of Caiger and swept through two forts, and 95% of the malls, some of them twice, three times, or even four. Seems pretty historical to me.--Vrag Naroda 17:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
  21. Yes - They did not change the way the game was played but they sure as hell made my summer in UD a lot more interesting. Kudos to LUE! The man 14:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
  22. No - I'm a rebel. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 15:12, 7 April 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - They had decent numbers I guess, and taking out a mall like Caiger prior to the recent barricade change is a pretty good feat. --Laughing Man 16:56, 7 April 2008 (BST)
  24. Yes - Significant impact upon the game. --ZsL 17:28, 7 April 2008 (BST)
  25. Yes - This vote has been open for over a month. Anyone want to be performing the necessary wiki witchcraft? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 17:27, 10 April 2008 (BST)

Pre voting Historical Groups

The following groups were labeled historical before voting was introduced, and comply with the policies requirements to maintain their historical status.

  1. 4 Corners Regulators
  2. Alliance of Giddings
  3. The Apocalypse Horde
  4. Axes High (Historic)*
  5. Back_On_Strike
  6. Brain Central
  7. Council of Leaders (new)*
  8. Council of Leaders (original)*
  9. Democratic Armed Republic of Independent Suburbs*
  10. FOBU
  11. Giddings Defenders
  12. The Gingerbread Men*
  13. Iron Cross Brothers (original)*
  14. Mall Tour '06*
  15. The Many
  16. The Ministry of the Dead
  17. Mockers
  18. On Strike*
  19. PA Rebel Alliance
  20. The Pretorians
  21. RABH
  22. Red-eye Republic
  23. Shambling Seagulls (2006)*
  24. Shearbank Liberation Army
  25. The Stanbury Renegades
  26. The Undying Scourge
  27. United Territories Federation

"*"indicates a Group that was made historic and then later revived by non-original members or a similarly named group was made some time after the original designation of "Historic". Where possible edits have been made to indicate the Historical nature of the groups and/or to differentiate them from their later incarnations.