Suggestion:20080705 "Dark" Buildings Not Lit on Map

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20080705 "Dark" Buildings Not Lit on Map

 Swiers 18:04, 5 July 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type
tweak

Suggestion scope
interface, minimap

Suggestion description

Introduction It seems that light can not get into certain buildings (armories, banks, cinemas, and clubs), which (when unpowered) makes them dark. Logically, light should also not be able to get out of such buildings, at least not enough of it to be seen at a great distance.

Effects This suggestion would have the following effects:

• The above mentioned building types would never show as powered on the minimap, unless you were inside the building.
• The scene description when directly outside (or inside) one of these buildings would still indicate if the building was lit, and would be modified to make this status more obvious and descriptive. An example from outside would be to change the line Lights are on inside. to Lights are on inside the building, but only show though a few openings.

Impact Besides adding realism and variety, this would make "dark" buildings less of a zombie magnet when lit, meaning that (even when powered, as they must be to be repaired) they might make for a good safe house. Aside from the Armories (which are very easy to tell if human or zombie occupied without lights), none of these buildings have tactical resources, so the "hidden" search boost would not affect game balance.

Voting Section

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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep - good idea--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 18:07, 5 July 2008 (BST)
2. Author's Vote  Swiers 18:11, 5 July 2008 (BST)
3. Keep - Sounds ok to me. And logically makes sense. -- Cheese 18:21, 5 July 2008 (BST)
4. Keep - Well, I guess it makes enough sence. If the windows are dirty enough that light can't get in, then it wouldn't get out either. --Officer Dick Trickle 19:25, 5 July 2008 (BST)
5. Keep and on a side note id smash all external lighting. don't want zeds and gkers know where am --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:04, 5 July 2008 (BST)
6. Keep - Makes sense. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 20:16, 5 July 2008 (BST)
7. keep - makes sense to me --Scotw 23:19, 5 July 2008 (BST)
8. Keep Logical and fair. --Jon Pyre 01:24, 6 July 2008 (BST)
9. Keep - I like this. Very reasonable. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 02:41, 6 July 2008 (BST)
10. Keep - Makes sense. --Pgunn 03:44, 6 July 2008 (BST)
11. Keep - As Pgunn Padfu-Zomfu 06:11, 6 July 2008 (BST)
12. Keep - Logical and well thought-out. I would expect nothing less.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  07:00, 6 July 2008 (BST)
13. Keep - Sense, this makes. --Aeon17x 07:57, 6 July 2008 (BST)
14. Keep - Me likey.--xoxo 10:03, 6 July 2008 (BST)
15. Keep - Logical. --Heretic144 18:06, 6 July 2008 (BST)
16. keep - very logical --Minigun4523 19:54, 6 July 2008 (BST)
17. Keep - This is the type of thing I'd have expected to have come with the dark building update to begin with. --Zombie in Pajamas 19:57, 6 July 2008 (BST)
18. Keep - Excellent, logical suggestion. --Themanwhocares4 20:10, 6 July 2008 (BST)
19. Keep - Cool--Jamie Cantwel3 ^TalkAll glory to the Hypnotoad! 08:24, 7 July 2008 (BST)
20. Keep - Not incorrect. ~Ariedartin • Talk • A KS J abt all 10:23, 7 July 2008 (BST)
21. keep cos no one would be dumb enough to repair more lights than they needed and certainly not the "all you can eat buffet" sign!--Honestmistake 13:47, 7 July 2008 (BST)
22. Keep - The logic is overwhelming! DanceDanceRevolution 14:02, 7 July 2008 (BST)
23. Keep Good idea!DaveBF 21:45, 8 July 2008 (BST)
24. Keep -makes perfect sense--Kolechovski 23:10, 8 July 2008 (BST)
25. Keep - This only helps zergers as much as it helps anybody else. --Howard Bentley 17:31, 9 July 2008 (BST)
26. Just goin' with the crowd. Read all the above. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:13, 9 July 2008 (BST)
27. Keep - The dark is MAGIC. It has nothing to do with lights being off, or lichen, or whatever. That said, this is good balance. --BoboTalkClown 01:21, 10 July 2008 (BST)
28. Keep- The logic computes. --Nny The Person 01:15, 12 July 2008 (BST)
29. Keep- As above. --Neuromanc3r ^U! 02:12, 12 July 2008 (BST)
30. Keep - Ditto --SBSTAR 18:56, 12 July 2008 (BST)
31. Keepmakes sense, and it doesnt really buff either side extremely.--Themonkeyman11 23:04, 14 July 2008 (BST)
32. Keep It's pretty logical, and it doesn't really buff either side. --William Told 21:00, 15 July 2008 (GMT-5)
33. Keep - sure. gabdewulf 16:05, 17 July 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Has some serious drawbacks amplifying negative effects of the last pro-zerg update. -- 
   •  Nevin McAvoy 
   •  (talk) 
   14:45, 7 July 2008 (BST)

   Care to explain how that is more the case with this suggestion than others? Pretty much everything in the game can be used by zergers, and so thus can every suggestion.  Swiers 17:50, 7 July 2008 (BST)

   Sure, see discussion. -- 

   •  Nevin McAvoy 

   •  (talk) 

   16:18, 8 July 2008 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - Completely unrealistic given the current limitations of Malton. We already know light switches don't exist for survivors to turn out the interior lights, why would it be any different for the big exterior lights found on cinemas? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:19, 5 July 2008 (BST)

   Those were all broken by stray bullets and zombies trying to claw their way in long ago, which is why they do not appear in the buildings description when it is powered; rather it only mentions lights being on in the building.  Swiers 19:13, 5 July 2008 (BST)