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===Accurate XP===
[[Spaminated]] with 11 spam votes/15 total votes. Most voters thought that the suggestion was too similar to other suggestions, and was too powerful. {{User:BobHammero/Sig}} 04:38, 15 June 2006 (BST)
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===Tougher Zombies===
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suggest_time=05:46, 11 June 2006 (BST)|
suggest_type=Skill|
suggest_scope=Zombies|
suggest_description=I think this idea would help zombies a lot, by providing them with an AP drain on Humans that want to kill them. By wasting Humans' AP, they become weak and will be unable to take out the Zombies. Here are 2 Zombie skill that can boost the HP of Zombies.

Lack of Pain: The zombie can take more punishment, +10 HP

Rotten Flesh: Bullets and blades pass right through the zombie, +5 HP.

They stack with Body Building, meaning that a Zombie has a max. health of 75 HP. These two skills do not carry over if you get Revived.

The zombies' main strength is the ability to withstand punishment and assemble into hordes. This way to withstand punishment before falling will be able to assist the Zombies out in the future. Zombies don't need added health to begin with...they can live forever because they stand up. But this way makes Suriviors lose AP when killing zombies, and an AP lost is an AP that cannot be used to barricade or escape from the claws of the hordes.

I'm open to suggestions|
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#'''Dupe'''- Please read [[Class Alteration: Zombie#Advanced Zombie Skill Trees - Mutations|Advanced Zombie Skill Trees - Mutations]] this is the same idea and much much better.--[[User:LCpl Mendoza|LCpl Mendoza]] 05:53, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Unh, no thanks, I feal this would be overpowered. It fails the multiply it by a million test, thats 2,000,000 barricade levels that can't be acheived because of this (2AP extra for killing a Zombie at least). A bit overpowered don't you think? - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] 05:58, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Fails the "make it fun" test. Meatshielding is about the most boring thing a zombie can do. --[[User:McSnatherson|Jimbo Bob]] <sup>[[Assault on Stupid Survivors|ASS]]•[[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 06:06, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Zombies need improvements, but not in this form... try increasing hit percentage/damage --[[User:Gage|Gage]] 06:24, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Fun to zombies, but not so fun to survivors. --[[User:Nob666|Nob666]] 11:12, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Does it pass through revivication? Besides, seriously unbalancing, needs WAY improvements before I vote Keep for this. --[[User:William Raker|William Raker]] 12:11, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - I would vote keep if both of these gave +10 hits '''and''' body building didn't carry over to zeds! --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 13:14, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Fails multiply by a billion in a worse way than Jedaz contemplated &mdash; what about the AP used for getting the ammunition? If the zombie also has a flak jacket&hellip; no. This is beyond the realms of merely overpowered, this is just absurd. &ndash;[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 13:25, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - As Xoid. --<span title="I love the smell of banned vandal in the morning!">[[User:Cyberbob240|A Bothan Spy]] <sup>[[Moderation|Mod]] [[User:Undeadinator/WTFCENTAURS|WTF]]  [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup></span> 13:40, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Author's Vote. I understand.--[[User:ShadowScope|ShadowScope]] 15:00, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - UD zombies are not Jason Vorhees. Also, as Xoid. [[User:David Malfisto|David Malfisto]] 19:53, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Zombies' strength lies in numbers. Not in being a colossal necrobeast. --[[User:Jon Pyre|Jon Pyre]] 00:17, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Just... no. [[User:HamsterNinja|HamsterNinja]] 00:39, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - This isn't the answer, but an idea similar to this needs to be implimented. Perhaps making Bodybuilding not work on Zombies then add these in... Or something... -- [[User:Tirion529|Tirion529]] 01:10, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - It really needs to require brain rot. Think of it, if your flesh is rotted a needle won't change that... -[[User:Certified=Insane|Certified=Insane]]<sub>[[Urban Guerillas|UG]]</sub> 03:20, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - How nice that zombies get to keep body building hp benefits but humans can't have the 15hp from the zombie skills. --[[User:Cazador|Cazador]] 07:56, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - I am interested as to what would happen if the zombies killed all the humans, would kevan need to reset the server? or be godlike and revive a few healers or somehting? but this could bring that to pass. too overpowered, not that my zed characters would care [[User:Nazreg|Nazreg]] 11:15, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Fails the multiply by a billion test. Read [[Suggestions Dos and Do Nots]]. &ndash;[[User:BobHammero|Bob Hammero]] <sup>[[User talk:BobHammero|T]]&bull;[[Project Welcome|W!]]&bull;[[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 04:45, 15 June 2006 (BST)
#*'''Tally''' - 1 Dupe, 16 Kill, 1 Author Kill, 18 Total. &ndash;[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 14:44, 25 June 2006 (BST)
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===Wirecutters as a weapons===
{{suggestion|
suggest_time=--13:37, 11 June 2006 (BST)|
suggest_type=Item usage|
suggest_scope=Wirecutters|
suggest_description=Wirecutters are, as we all know, completely useless at the moment.  As we also all know, useless items are useless.   What I am going to propose is using Wirecutters as a weapon.

Admittedly, wirecutters are not a particularly threatening weapon, but it would be more for fun than raw damaging power.  They would work in a similar way to the punch attack, with 10% to hit without Hand to Hand combat, and 25% with it.  It would deal 1 damage on sucessful use, and the following messages (open to alteration) could be used;

'''Attacker Message'''

When used on a zombie - "dodging between the zombie's (zombie name inserted here if it is in your contacts) flailing limbs, you ram your wirecutters into its face for 1 damage

When used on a survivor - "Creeping up on (insert survivor name here), you quickly stab him in the eye with your wirecutters for 1 damge, and listen as he squeals in pain.

'''Victim Message'''

When used on a zombie - "You feel a sharp sting in your face.  (insert attacker name here) stabbed you with his wirecutters for 1 damage"

When used on a survivor - "You shriek in pain as (insert survivor name here) stabs you in the face with wirecutters for 1 damage"

This would purely be for those who like to mess around, maybe those who enjoy killing others with a kitchen knife, and is not for all.  However, it would give the wirecutters a use until someone came up with a real use for them.|
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#'''Author Keep''' --[[User:HerrStefantheGreat|HerrStefantheGreat]] 13:37, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Why not? It's just as weak as using your hands, and oh so much more satisfying. --<span title="I love the smell of banned vandal in the morning!">[[User:Cyberbob240|A Bothan Spy]] <sup>[[Moderation|Mod]] [[User:Undeadinator/WTFCENTAURS|WTF]]  [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup></span> 13:42, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - In a zombie infested city, I'd use anything as a weapon --[[User:EnForcer32|EnForcer32]] 13:47, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Nice flavour. Realistic. Cool. --[[User:Otware|Otware]] 14:00, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - flavor :D --[[User:Xbehave|xbehave]] 14:01, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Wirecutters being as powerful than a fist? Nah. Personally, I don't like the so-called flavour of this suggestion either. &ndash;[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 14:03, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I love the flavor, Love the idea.  It would be around the same damage as fists anyway - it's just some more weight and a little bit of pointiness added onto your hands.  --[[User:Shoofle|Shoofle]] 14:30, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Utterly useless. As such, its almost certain to get into the game. --[[User:Grim s|Grim s]]-<sup>[[Moderation|Mod]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 14:47, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Meh.  But why not? --[[User:McArrowni|McArrowni]] 16:46, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - What's the point? If you don't like having a useless set of wirecutters, why turn them into another useless weapon? Find an axe -- [[User:Tirion529|Tirion529]] 17:55, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#*'''Re''' - Yeah, but people like the kitchen knife just for the reason that it is a laugh to be able to say "oh yeah, killed you with  a kitchen knife! Why not have a similar function for the wirecutters?  At least the wirecutters come with some entertaining text.--[[User:HerrStefantheGreat|HerrStefantheGreat]] 21:39, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#**'''Re''' - Sure they do, but that's no reason to put in an even worse weapon. I'd rather seen Suggestions that better the game, not clutter it. -- [[User:Tirion529|Tirion529]] 00:06, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - But what about our children?! Don't they see enough pointless violence in their life already? Why do we need to teach them how to blind people with wirecutters?! (Naah, just kiddin'.) --[[User:Niilomaan|Niilomaan]] 18:05, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Ace!!! We need a use for wirecutters. Why not use them to stab people in the eyes? -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Krazy Monkey]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup> 18:55, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - So you want to turn a useless item into ANOTHER useless weapon? I think not. Fails the "don't suggest bad ideas for Peer Approval" test. [[User:David Malfisto|David Malfisto]] 19:53, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - As everyone pointed out, useless. --[[User:Matthewfarenheit|Matthew Fahrenheit]] 20:24, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#:*<s>'''Illegal RE''' - Oh come on!!! Haven't you ever wanted to kill someone and see the message "You stab Mr Cheesy in the eye for 1 damage. He falls to the floor writhing in pain and dies of shame." I think it would be fun.</s> -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Krazy Monkey]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup> 20:41, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#::*'''Re''' - What Krazy Monkey said - "Oh come on!!! Haven't you ever wanted to kill someone and see the message "You stab Mr Cheesy in the eye for 1 damage. He falls to the floor writhing in pain and dies of shame." I think it would be fun." --[[User:HerrStefantheGreat|HerrStefantheGreat]] 21:36, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#:::*'''Re''' - It's still useless, and flavor just for the flavor itself doesn't accomplish nothing.  You can make people die of shame already, by using your fists, why add ANOTHER useless weapon? Two more things: aknowledging the illegality of a Re doesn't make it acceptable, and don't Re again because i don't like to cluter the page/take this to the talk page. --[[User:Matthewfarenheit|Matthew Fahrenheit]] 02:46, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Cool for the fun and the flavour? [[User:KyleTravis|KyleTravis]] 21:07, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Useless function + useless function still equals useless. How about suggesting something that would actually make the game better? --[[User:McSnatherson|Jimbo Bob]] <sup>[[Assault on Stupid Survivors|ASS]]•[[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 21:15, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Stupid, pointless, etc. --[[User:DJ Dave|DJ Dave]] 21:22, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - This is silly and pointless. Don't clutter up peer reviewed with silly and pointless crap. --[[User:Mookiemookie|Mookiemookie]] 23:23, 11 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' Wirecutters are not an effective weapon and adding flavour to the game is not always an effective use of Kevan's time. --[[User:Jon Pyre|Jon Pyre]] 00:16, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Just because it would be awesome to have the killing blow on a PKer come from Wirecutters. Its painful and humiliating at the same time! [[User:HamsterNinja|HamsterNinja]] 00:37, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - We already have books, this would fit in just as well. And I don't know about you guys, but I think I'd be hurt if I got hit hard with a wirecutter. [[User:Crazy Hand|Crazy Hand]] 03:41, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Why not put use to an item, it doesn't give anyone any sort of extra power anyway, I think if this doesn't pass the wirecutters might as well just be removed from the game, why have them? --[[User:Cazador|Cazador]] 07:53, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#:*'''Tally''' 13 Keep (59%) 9 Kill - 22 Total--[[User:HerrStefantheGreat|HerrStefantheGreat]] 19:06, 12 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Like DavidM, Jimbo, Mookie, and Jon said: useless. Everyone that voted ''keep'' "just to add flavor" should be using knives, lengths of pipe, and bats to attack and just pretending they're wirecutters. --[[User:Raystanwick|Raystanwick]] 03:01, 13 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Keep''' -Honestly, what's the big friggin' deal?  How does this hurt the game or adversely effect players fun?  It doesn't.  Don't like it, stick with the fire axe.  Adding more options and making useless items...less useless can ONLY enhance the game.  There are only two options for wirecutters, get rid of them (I notice nobody makes THAT suggestion) or make some new use for them (which always die because either the suggestion sucks or, as RAF Lt.G Deathnut said back in January, "can people stop trying to make wire cutters useful again?"  Uh, why?--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 04:59, 13 June 2006 (BS
#'''Kill''' - Sorry, but survivors don't need anymore weapons. -- [[User:Mia Kristos|Mia Kristos]] 02:03, 15 June 2006 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Wirecutters are useless, but survivors have enough weapons as it is. How about a non-weapon use for wirecutters? &ndash;[[User:BobHammero|Bob Hammero]] <sup>[[User talk:BobHammero|T]]&bull;[[Project Welcome|W!]]&bull;[[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 04:49, 15 June 2006 (BST)
#:*'''Tally''' 14 Keep, 12 Kill, 26 total. --[[User:HerrStefantheGreat|HerrStefantheGreat]] 22:04, 21 June 2006 (BST)
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