Talk:First Ruining of Fort Creedy

Feel free to add your group, and the name of the commander of your group, to the appropriate side and appropriate part of the template, and to add to the analysis or to add your own perspective in the analysis, just try to keep it neutral. Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  02:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

You're quick. There's only 2 building ruined so far! Give us half an hour, eh :P -- boxy ^{talk • i} 02:26 2 January 2008 (BST)

Additions

• Added emphasis on cunning of Zombie and PK'ers, and on survivor valiance in an attempt to flesh out and to add balance to the article.

One group that I noticed missing from the survivor groups is the Army Control Corps. Fort Creedy was where we sent the trainees. Even our former group leader dies trying to defend the fort. Unfortunately it wasn't the zeds that took down the fort, it was survivor stupidity.--Xan2020 05:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Xan2020 (ACC private)

The template. ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I added a balancing template for the survivors who stood and fought.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  22:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

And added SNS template for PK'ers, and for reference.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  22:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. And I am flattered that you imitated my template. ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||03:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Survivor POV

Added note from a Survivor

As I remembered, about a week from the attack every day 20 or so zeds out, and the occasional 4 zeds in the gatehouse. 80 of us manned the gatehouse, and 400 people were inside. Except for the doctors getting FAKs and the ones getting ammo, most of them should have been at the gatehouse. Constant PK effects against us also weakened us. By the time the BB2 arrived, only 60-70 manned the gatehouse, and the rest overcaded the armory, infirmiry, and the storehouse. The gatehouse fell within a day, with the rest of the fort falling just as easily. The infirmiry was the last to fall, due to the constant overcading, and the 100+ survivors inside constantly barricading helped them last for another hour or so. I guess the trenchies did an ok effort, but they failed to utilize their tactics, looked out only for themselves, and only a fraction manned the gatehouse.

Moved from main

1. PKers
2. Made peoples life in the gatehouse hell, who could blame every hiding in the armory totally unaware of the siege when these fearsome beasts of cunning were calling the inhabitants of ft.creedy trenchies when all we wanted was some bullets.

PKers were not killed and carried on killing only adding to the heap of bodies at nearby cemeteries —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hurricane63 (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Zombie POV

Finally

Woot, the trenchcoater's haven has truly fallen!!! and I was there ^^ --/~Rakuen~\ 17:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

SNS

I have edited the page to include the groups that actually took part in the SNS. 3/4 of the groups listed there did not take part in the event and many of the groups that did were left out. --Hibernaculum 03:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Zombie Casualties And Commanders

If you have anything to add in either of these categories, please, please, pleasse add it in. We desperately need numbers for this.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  21:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Zombie Death Tally

If you were at Creedy and killed a zombie in the period mentioned, please, post here, in the following format: #~~~~ and make a new line for every kill you scored  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  21:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

1.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  21:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Rarreth ??:??, 27 December 2007
3. --Hurricane63 21:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC) i shot ones of those filthy zeds outside the gatehouse then got PKed... dirty hobos...
4. --Hansolo580 A.K.A. Brutallegend 22:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
5. --Catman03 23:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC) I shot three zombies, but that was in the first few days of the 8-day siege.
6. --Catman03 23:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
7. --Catman03 23:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC) I think that's what you want me to do, if not just delete these second two lines.

Survivor Death Tally

If you were at Creedy and killed a survivor as a zombie in the period mentioned, please, post here, in the following format: #~~~~ and make a new line for every kill you scored  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  23:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

1. Reported by:--Worthog117 23:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Reported by:--Worthog117 23:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
3. Reported by:--MikhailA 00:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
4. My feral, Thugray, had been stationed outside the gates three months prior to the fall, breaking in occaisionally to kill a genny and bite a few, plus howl when successful - and sometimes singing a Christmas carol. Imagine my surprise when suddenly, zombies everywhere! I don't believe I killed anyone, but I tore barricades down at the gatehouse and the armory at least a couple of times to help out. He's still there manning the gatehouse.--Actingupagain 15:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

well i was at creedy when the BB2 ruined the armory, I killed 2 CDF members infected 1 and i was acting for the BB2 evenm though I'm a FU member, commanded by bullgod--Worthog117 23:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  23:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Independent PK tally(meaning not part of the SNS)

If you were at Creedy and killed a survivor as a survivor in the period mentioned, please, post here, in the following format: #~~~~ and make a new line for every kill you scored  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  23:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

1. I killed 4 the night of the SNS. ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
2. It was orgasmic, ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
3. totally sweet,----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
4. and filled me with a rush no survivor will understand.----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

   Outside of the SNS? Total SNS kills (as documented on the SNS page) are already documented. So, thanks for the effort, but I'm asking for kills outside of the SNS, to get a picture of post-SNS PK'ing.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  20:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

   What about some "minor recon assault(paraphrasing trenchie recon teams)" before SNS? I did some light hitting (3 people, to be exact) a few days before SNS, but evac'd to kill people outside in St. Ben's, the NT, and the PD.--Shotstol 22:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

   Yeah, that's exactly what we're looking for: Any PK's not already listed on the SNS list.

   Those will be difficult to come by. Talk to the groups that participated. They'll be happy to give you their results. ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||03:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Crashing Farmer

I may just be overly sensitive, but the summary of taking the Farmer Building simply isn't fair. Zombies outnumbered survivors there 2-1, and Farmer didn't factor into survivor long-term goals once Creedy was taken. You smashed and ate our brains, but saying we weren't coordinated just isn't accurate. --Soloman Frisbee 19:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I was referring to Creedy's survivors weren't coordinated- usually, zombies can only take a fort or a mall after taking its NT building- but in this case, the fort fell with the NT intact, meaning survivor tactics were poor.

To make it clear: Farmer's fall is not within the scope of this article. This is about events between the SNS and the Fall of Creedy.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  21:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)