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Is infectious bite also griefing? I think so. --GreatEmerald 11:16, 18 Dec 2005 (GMT)

if griefing does exist, then I think infectious bite qualifies. Private graham 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

would pking be griefing?-Radoteur 01:08, 29 Sep 2005 (BST)

A form of griefing, I suppose. I wouldn't say all PKing is griefing, though. Just that in which the main intent in it is to annoy the other player. --Raelin 01:19, 29 Sep 2005 (BST)
It's kind of a tough call. Arguably, knocking down barricades that are heavy is a helpful action (in at least one way), and PKing or ZKing are both beneficial to the attacker (and arguably even roleplaying; crazy people and crazy zombies everywhere). That said, if everyone started acting totally crazy, I probably wouldn't enjoy the game much, but a few crazies kept in line by the "sane" majority is ok with me. --John 05:02, 29 Sep 2005 (BST)
That definitely depends on your definition of PKing. Simply killing a member of your own faction ranges from griefing to noobery to roleplaying. --LouisB3 03:23, 30 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Hmm. Isn't the inclusion of headshot a bit strange? The 'infection' skill would fall under the same banner, I think. Something that's very explicitly built into the game as afeature can't be considered griefing, eh?--Jeff 23:44, 2 Nov 2005 (GMT)

I agree... Headshot is explicitly built into the game, not just a technicality... complain about it at the suggestions page, though it's already been nerfed quite a bit against the hordes. I don't think it would be griefing unless someone with headshot was targetting a specific zombie to keep their exp down. Shadowstar 23:54, 2 Nov 2005 (GMT)
It feels like griefing because it seems like every time I get killed as a zombie, it's by someone with headshot. I get killed *every. single. day.* Every day what XP I manage to gather is reset to zero because people don't realise that this skill is useless. 'Zombie hunters' as a concept are flawed, because it's far too easy for harmans to level up. There's no way for zeds to stunt their growth. Infection isn't a griefing skill, it's a deterrent... people are far less likely to stick around and attack/barricade/whatever if they're losing HP for it. It's also pathetically easy to recover from. There is no recovery mechanism for 80+ XP lost to Headshot. --Leit 09:59, 12 Dec 2005 (GMT)
You can earn more XP, (the innate recovery mechanism for xp loss), and perhaps learn how to not be headshot. --Matthew-Stewart 19:40, 12 Dec 2005 (GMT)
perhaps. You mean by sealing my head in a block of concrete? Every time I try closing myself into a building I end up dead anyway. That's when I even manage to break into a building, considering almost everything on planet Malton is barricaded six ways to hell. I've been headshot every day for the last two weeks, except over the weekends when I didn't bother to stand up. This is in the area around Ridleybank, supposedly a slightly safer area for zombies. Earning more XP gives me no benefit if I lose it every day. If I could earn decent xp for 2 days without losing my stash, I'd be made. Then again, that'd require me to be able to deal 50 damage a day and still find safety. Exactly how likely is that, since I'd probably have to dig through barricades for most of my ap? Earning less xp per day means more days to shelter, and thus increasing the chance of having it reset. Finding people outside is all well and good, but that takes ap as well, and the suburbs in which people end up outside are either protected by high-level fanatics who don't even have the consideration towards their own side to barricade properly, or incredibly safe due to low zombie pop. This second case means I'll be killed just about as soon as someone notices the lovely (lonely) xp buffet. I've tried hiding in groups, I've tried hiding inside, and the only way I've been able to progress since I hit level 7 has been to get revived and gain xp by healing zombies. It's a bit much. One note I do find amusing though, I've never been pk'd for having as many z skills as I do, and yet when I've sheltered as a harman I've seen conversations along the lines of 'just killed Z0mb0r666 cos he has lots of zombie skillZ'... :D --Leit 08:08, 13 Dec 2005 (GMT)


Should this article be merged with the Does Griefing exist page? I don't think it's big enough to warrant a separate article, myself... Magnus Ferran 19:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

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