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<big><font color color:#C00">'''This page is for discussing improvements to the entire [[Main Page]] only.'''</font><br>
'''See [[UDWiki:General Discussion|General Discussion]], [[Wiki Questions]] or the [[Frequently Asked Questions|FAQ]] for discussion and questions. '''</big><br>
 
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==Donation made Forgot to specify characters==
I just made a donation but I forgot to write in which 3 characters I want to play all the time as, how long till I can unlock the characterrs?[[User:JoshCz|JoshCz]] ([[User talk:JoshCz|talk]])
 
Fixed on his talk page. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 16:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 
==There's a new update!==
Would someone who can edit the main page fix that please?  I don't know why, but the prospect of something NEW there is incredibly satisfying.  It took 365 days, so I guess there's that.--<span style="border:solid 1px #AF7817; padding: 0px 1px; background-color: #E7DFCE; color: black;">'''[[User:Squid Boy/SaysF|Seekandyeshallfind]]'''</span> <sup>[[User_talk:Squid Boy/SaysF|<span style="border:solid 1px #AF7817; padding: 0px 1px; background-color: #E7DFCE; color: black;">QI</span>]]'''  <sup>[[Philosophe Knights|<span style="color:#AF7817">PK</span>]]</sup></sup> 12:46, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
:A helpful little gnome got it. For future reference, the text comes from [[Template:Lastupdate]], which any autoconfirmed user can edit. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 16:39, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 
== Ms Malton 2011 Pageant ==
Would it be possible to put a link to this event on the front page thru August 2011 from here:
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Ms_Malton_2011_Pageant#Entry_Requirements:
 
[[User:SmokeyDawn|SmokeyDawn]] 06:17, 3 July 2011 (BST)
:Head over [[Template:Community_Projects|here]] and follow the instructions. Anything you post in there gets included on the main page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:25, 3 July 2011 (BST)
 
::Thank you for the info & editing help! ♥--[[User:SmokeyDawn|SmokeyDawn]] 07:01, 9 July 2011 (BST)
 
== Outbreak Source? ==
 
Did anyone know where the zombie virus came from? (You know, except from NecroTech.) Like, did it come from Ridleybank? Or some NecroTech facility outside of Malton? Is there a known source, geographically? Tried searching the wiki, but nothing came up. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 16:02, 10 June 2009 (BST)
:[[Outbreak]] and [[Possible Causes for the Situation]] are the best ones, but there isn't really any stuff on where it came from. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:27, 10 June 2009 (BST)
::Reading Time! Thanks. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 16:36, 10 June 2009 (BST)
:::From a RP point of view, there is no confirmed source. read half a dozen location pages and you'll come up with one with a theory. For instance. [[Blabey Drive]]--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:38, 10 June 2009 (BST)
::::That's cool. Hmm... You know any more locations like that? I'll search around and try to find as many as possible. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 16:46, 10 June 2009 (BST)
:::::There's a few on [[ALiM]], i forget which one's though. One of the dead interesting ones, a coffin lolcations p'aps? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:01, 13 June 2009 (BST)
 
== Removing the iwitness link on the main page ==
 
Since urbandead.info's been stolen by [http://www.urbandead.info/ domain poachers], it looks like it's gone, at least for now. I say that we replace it with [http://iamscott.net/dumbwit.html dumbwit] (which is a hasty replacement for itwit, been there since the last time it went down,) or just remove the link. Thoughts? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:20, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:Or [http://udwitness.oddnetwork.org/ udwitness]. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:30, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:: I don't know which is best, eaasier, more accessable. Perhaps a link to a page holding all such programs? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:39, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:::I'll go ahead and remove the link now. I've used dumbwit quite a bit, but it's very simple. I'm going to try udwitness for a while. Anyone else got an idea? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:44, 20 June 2009 (BST)
::::Put it onto List of External Sites. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:02, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:::::Done. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 11:11, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:::::One thing that could be done is to have the link to iwitness reports in a template (or any other external resource used in the wiki). So, if this happens again, one can simply change the base url and update any reference to a iwitness in the entire wiki. The page would be protected to prevent vandalism, of course. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 15:23, 20 June 2009 (BST)
 
I say you guys fix this travesty considering iwitness works, is better, and etc etc. Also the Max Map needs adding again. ;) The urls are all the same, oh and udwidget has been updated too. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:39, 3 July 2009 (BST)
:As far as I can tell, the only thing I'm missing with UDWitness is a search feature and privatization of reports. :p - &nbsp;<small>[[User:Haliphax|<span style="color: #FF9999;background: #394939;padding-right:8px;padding-left:7px"><small>&nbsp;'''H'''aliphax</small></span>]][[User talk:Haliphax|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:5px;padding-right:2px">'''T'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Characters|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;">'''C'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Scripts|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-right:5px;padding-left:2px">'''S'''</span>]]</small> 16:19, 8 July 2009 (BST) (UDWitness author)
::Which is to say it's lacking but you're trying to minimize that by not mentioning all the things it's lacking in. I fail to see how this is relevant.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:49, 9 July 2009 (BST)
::So you want a way to make them more secure AND a way to search for the one you want? Thats a little bit contradictory. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 08:43, 9 July 2009 (BST)
::''facepalm to end all facepalms'' .. It lacks a search feature and privatization. PERIOD. The two are NOT mutually exclusive -- PUBLIC records can be searched, PRIVATE ones will not be listed. There is no need to be boorish. Don't you also think it a bit closed-minded to only put stock in only one service when 1.) There are several like it and 2.) It has gone down repeatedly over the last several years? I am merely offering an alternative to IWitness. It was built simply because one day, when I wanted to use IWitness, it was down. A week later, it was still down. I wasn't having any of that, so I built UDWitness. I figured other people could benefit from it, so I released it to the general UD-playing public. I receive no benefit from running the service other than knowing that it serves a purpose (i.e., there is no ad revenue, and I pay for the server out of pocket). - &nbsp;<small>[[User:Haliphax|<span style="color: #FF9999;background: #394939;padding-right:8px;padding-left:7px"><small>&nbsp;'''H'''aliphax</small></span>]][[User talk:Haliphax|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:5px;padding-right:2px">'''T'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Characters|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;">'''C'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Scripts|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-right:5px;padding-left:2px">'''S'''</span>]]</small> 14:23, 9 July 2009 (BST)
::Not to stir he pot, but the current listings look good to me.  The various systems do pretty much the same thing (hell, looks like they use the same code in the bookmarklets).  Halifax- if you want to slap in a private reacord feature, its as simple as having an index page (one that does NOT list the files) for the directory the private record pages are stored in.  Since it looks like all your record are stored in one stonking big directory, that means a single static index page would do the trick for ya (rather than the fancy / excessive system Iwit uses of a new directory every hour).  {{User:Swiers/Sig}} 03:56, 10 April 2010 (BST)
:Added it back on the page, by the way. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:55, 9 July 2009 (BST)
 
== [[UDWiki:A Guide for Newbie UDWiki Users|Guide for Newbie UDWiki Users]] ==
 
two years ago several users started to create a guide for the udwiki newbie user. Its incomplete right now, and some sections could be tweaked a little to become more friendly. Anyway, could someone link this guide in the main page, just below the ''first time playing'' link ? --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 21:15, 15 July 2009 (BST)
:I'll make a new one or update this when I get around to it. I've been meaning to do so for a while. Until then, we shouldn't add it to the main page. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:33, 16 July 2009 (BST)
 
== Ross? ==
 
[http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9223/scr7002163.jpg A wild Rosslessness appears]. :P. Really though, what's up with that? --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 13:31, 18 September 2009 (BST)
:I have no idea. probably my edit to news. hold on. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:36, 18 September 2009 (BST)
::Sorted. Anything you type on template wiki news, below the included template is added to the start of news. I can see no way it could be exploited to get messages onto a protected page.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:39, 18 September 2009 (BST)
:::I knew I wasn't crazy. :D --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 05:23, 19 September 2009 (BST)
<br>*Looks at Wiki*<br>Mmm hmm I won't even go there.<br> [[User:Jerrel Yokotory|Jerrel Yokotory]] 21:49, 16 October 2009 (BST)
 
== Error ==
 
"Apr 11th - A better policy which requires notification of escalations and de-escalations in the vandal system has '''be''' submitted for discussion. All users are encouraged to comment here." Fixing this, anyone? --{{User:Skin/sig}} 15:48, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:You were welcome to do so... but I'll get to it. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 15:57, 11 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Main Page tweaks? ==
 
So I've been working on [[User:Red Hawk One/Sandbox 1|some possible alterations]] to the main page. I'm hoping for some input on this, and if anyone would be interested in seeing some of these changes made. {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 04:02, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:it is my understanding that GPDNAS is not active. i could be wrong but might want to check their forums.--[[User:Bonghit420|Dirty]] 11:01, 26 April 2010 (BST)
::I like the community portal, but hate the top box. We could always modify [[MediaWiki:Anonnotice]] to contain the information. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:39, 26 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Small Edit to be Made ==
 
The front page says that it has been 4 years since the outbreak, but it rolled over to 5 a few days ago. 
 
[[User:Chocolate bob|Chocolate bob]] 22:58, 6 July 2010 (BST)
:Done.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:33, 6 July 2010 (BST)
 
== Skills link ==
 
ok i think there should be a link that led to skills only--[[User:Zombieman 11|Zombieman 11]] 23:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:Oh you mean like the link on the Main Page that leads to [[:Category:Skills|This Page]] that when click brings you to the [[:Category:Skills|Skills page]]? The one that is labeled [[:Category:Skills|Skills]] that can be found on the Main Page? {{User:Vapor/sig}} 23:30, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
::no i mean on th side bar thing--[[User:Zombieman 11|Zombieman 11]] 21:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::You know that's not actually a bad idea... -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::And only one of us around here has the ability to change it. *nudge nudge* {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:24, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Zombieman 11, just click the link on the side bar that says [[Special:Random|Random Page]] until you find it. You'll come across it eventually. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 22:16, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Vapor, I present thee a cookie for that comment. {{Cookie|Axe Hack|Vapor|reason=making Axe Hack laugh.}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:18, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== Curious ==
 
Do we really need all of this junk? I'm thinking it's time for an overhaul and reduction to things directly useful to players needing help. Not things useful to the wiki community(the purpose of [[UDWiki:Community Portal]] and [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]]). --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:05, 20 June 2011 (BST)
:It's not junk, the wiki is also here to facilitate community interests. What would you suggest? Although, it might be better to just turn [[CP]] into a series of useful links, like some other wikis, because as of now it's not really useful.  --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:21, 20 June 2011 (BST)
 
== mediawiki sidebar recruitment ==
 
I was thinking. Because of the perhaps undeniable success of the [[#Skills link]] suggestion two headers above this one, perhaps we should add a page to [[recruitment]] or such to the side as well, i dunno, [[Groups]] is a bit large, but maybe that would be of interest to users? maybe? just food for thought? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:32, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:Dunno. I don't actually know that many people who have used the recruitment page to actually join groups. :P --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 13:48, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::Chances are adding in that link would make it more widely used. Although if we were going to add in that link I'd say organize up the recruitment page by type of group first then A-Z under there respective headers. As just plain A-Z isn't particularly helpful. Hell I'll even do the rearranging need be..{{User:Mazu/sig}}  13:54, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::that might be because we haven't thrown recruit page at them enough yet! Dunno. You're probably right. I wouldn't know, never was good at joining groups. As mazu said about changing recruitment page to fit, I think that's also a decent idea and may possibly be worth it just to give recruitment a bigger surge in viewership and more usefulness? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:59, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::I can hear the cries of 'bias!' already with regards to sorting the groups by type, not only between the different playstyles, but potentially within groups too. I do think adding a recruitment link to the sidebar is an excellent idea though, mostly because I've just improved the RRF recruitment advert <___< --[[User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast|<span style="color:HotPink; font-family:Small Fonts; font-size:medium">TWO HEADED </span>]][[The Ridleybank Resistance Front|<span style="color:HotPink; font-family:Small Fonts; font-size:medium">SEX BEAST</span>]] 14:04, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::Bias? I'd simply sort them out as PKer, Pro-survivor(Bounty hunters, Life Cultist, etc.), and Pro-Zombie(RKers, GKers, Death Cultist, etc.). If they'd have a problem with their placement just post it up on the talk page and well sort it out.{{User:Mazu/sig}}  14:07, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::::Who gets the top of the page though? Pro-zombie? Pro-survivor? Player killer? Personally, I don't think it matters all that much, but there's almost certainly going to get people that'll complain if they perceive bias (from survivors, for example, if you list zombie groups first). --{{User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast/sig}} 14:23, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::::Hell didn't even think of that. We can just do that alphabetically as a bias free way of organizing. So it'd go Player Killer Groups, Pro-Survivor, Pro-Zombie, Miscellaneous Groups(last because they lack a theme and that's common practice among the internet I think?). {{User:Mazu/sig}}  14:36, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::::::I think just keeping the organisation as it is works for the best, to be honest. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 15:06, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::::::The organization discussion is separate from the topic at hand, and is better handled on the Recruitment page (as an aside, I agree with Mis, since anyone whose been around for the debates on that page or the suburb group listings knows how much of a bag of drama that topic can be). As for ''this'' discussion, adding the link is valuable, so I'd go with it. And for those asking about how often people actually use the page, I'd say that probably 1/3 to 1/2 of the recruits the SoC gets who cite a reason they joined cite the wiki. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:22, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::::::I can't believe people would throw a fit because of the order, idiots, but I'll take it to the recruitment page since the current A-Z organization just makes it harder to find groups if your looking for a certain type. {{User:Mazu/sig}}  21:35, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::::::Every group is tagged by type. Ctrl + F. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:38, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:What are the chances of getting a [[Recruitment]] link added to the sidebar then? I'd personally like to see it happen if it'll be potentially successful in boosting group numbers. --{{User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast/sig}} 19:33, 27 July 2011 (BST)
::Since there didn't seem to be any opposition to adding it, I went ahead and did it. The community section seemed to make most sense so that is where I put it. Maybe "the game" section would be better. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:::I would say it fits better in "the Game" section because it's a page relating to Urban Dead the game, not wiki.{{User:Mazu/sig}}  20:44, 27 July 2011 (BST)
::::+1. --{{User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast/sig}} 20:52, 27 July 2011 (BST)
:::::Yeah thought better of it, too. "The Game" it is. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)</sub>
 
== 4 days worth of RC ==
 
i was worried that lately i got to see 3 days worth of RC... but today, i got to see today (September 20), yesterday (19), the day before yesterday (18) and the day before that (17)... are we losing contributors ? --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 20:02, 20 September 2011 (BST)
:Yes, but also it's been abnormally slow. I think it will pick up in October due to some events but we definitely have much fewer contributors, less drama, even less spambots these days. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC)</sub>
::It's getting hard to sysop with nothing to fix. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:49, 20 September 2011 (BST)
:::Clearly, someone needs to start a ruckus. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:12, 21 September 2011 (BST)
::::I think that someone should be you, Gnome. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:12, 21 September 2011 (BST)
:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>breaks wiki*{{User:Mazu/sig}}  01:23, 21 September 2011 (BST)
::::::VANDALISM!!!  VANDALISM!!! *throws ban hammer at Mazu* --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:32, 21 September 2011 (BST)
::I laugh in the face of your spambots, back in the day we'd ban pages upon pages a day. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:44, 25 September 2011 (BST)
:::::I will devise a plan behind everyone's backs and conduct the result for all to see. Well, it will be ruckus, of some sort! --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:50, 21 September 2011 (BST)
I'm taking you all to arbitration. -- <span style="font-size: 10px; line-height: 10px; font-family: verdana; font-weight: bold; color: darkred;">&trade; & &copy; [[User:Amazing|Amazing]], [[Hell Rising|INC]]. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our [[User:Amazing/Myths|Terms of Service]].</span> 01:57, 22 September 2011 (BST)
:You go ahead and do that, but I demand not just a single arbitrator.  I demand there be a jury of arbitrators. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:03, 22 September 2011 (BST)
::I'll be one! --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:39, 22 September 2011 (BST)
:::I'll be three! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:28, 22 September 2011 (BST)
 
==Quack==
....Um...What the fuck?  Did Yon really request that in his Arby's ruling?  Alright, sure, I might have joined in that joke a bit around the middle, but I think we've crossed the line here with the...um...carrying out of the ruling. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:15, 7 October 2011 (BST)
:It was that or promoting Nubis. Settle down the lesser evil. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 00:16, 7 October 2011 (BST)
:This is beyond the limits of what an arbies can do... --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 00:18, 7 October 2011 (BST)
::{{Grr}} {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:02, 7 October 2011 (BST)
::Also the parties in question have to like, accept? Pretty sure we still do that.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 01:04, 7 October 2011 (BST)
 
==the date and year==
2012 calling and it's warm outside. --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:38, 22 May 2012 </small>
 
==Main Page Organization Discussion==
Continuation of a discussion begun at [[Template talk:UDThisMonth]].
 
As the Community Portal template has lengthened somewhat with the introduction of the UD This Month feature, it has pushed the Navigation boxes further down the page. Is there consensus to swap the Navigation and Community Portal sections? Please discuss. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:31, 29 July 2012 (BST)
:I'm certainly in favor. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:48, 29 July 2012 (BST)
 
:New players should see the navigation boxes above the community portal sections. They won't care about UD history or community projects yet. Old players don't need the navigation boxes, therefore would like the community portal sections above the navigation boxes. Also, I prefer pages formatted for small phone screens (important stuff above miscellaneous stuff)...less scrolling is better. -- [[User:Son of Sin|<span style="background:white; color:black; font-family:Chiller; font-size:medium">→'''Son of Sin'''←</span>]] 02:55, 29 July 2012 (BST)
 
:I'm in favor. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)</sub>
 
:I think better design is the solution here, not omitting things. I like all the panels a lot, probably "community announcements" the most and "this day in X" the least, but that's irrelevant. If we were to get rid of anything I guess it should be the FA, but I'd much prefer fixing the template altogether so the FA was maybe in its own section under the "community announcements" and "in this month" side by side perhaps {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 04:43, 29 July 2012 (BST)
::No one was still talking about cutting elements. We were just talking about swapping the two sections. Better design, as you said. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:14, 29 July 2012 (BST)
:Swap them.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 15:05, 29 July 2012 (BST)
 
Are we still interested in renewing the Main Page? Also, I've been doing things to the [[Community Portal]]. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:54, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
:The [[UDWiki:Administration/Protections#Main Page|big discussion on A/PT]] stalled out because the latest (and, I think, most comprehensive) proposal, [[User:Aichon/Sandbox/Demo13|by Aichon]], doesn't work in the default wiki skin. So either we all have to be ported over to another skin (requiring Kevanic intervention) or another proposal has to materialize. Someone correct me if I've got all this wrong. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:04, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
::Okay. I think we should just figure out how to stick the navigation stuff in the UD header thingy, and remove the UD news to the CP. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
:::If you have any suggestions for how we can "just" stick the navigation stuff in the UD header in a way that's sensible and doesn't impede the flow of the page, I am definitely all ears. I wouldn't move the UD news to CP though, since it's definitely not community-oriented. In fact, I'd be more inclined to move wiki news or this month in UD to the CP before we moved UD news (of course, I don't want to see those go there either, since they're both very nice to have right on the main page). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:46, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
::::With tables. I'll give it a go sometime later. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Or just give me a synopsis of the issues you ran into and the CSS/JS code used and I can see if I can find a clever work around. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:47, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Just CSS, no JS, and the issue was basically that the CSS was only being loaded for non-default themes. The system message I edited was supposed to apply to ALL themes, but IIRC that functionality broke a few wiki updates ago, so if you use the default wiki theme and go to my demo page, it'll appear different and rather useless. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Kevin futzed with it and apparently accidentally removed the common.css call on the UrbanDead skin/s. There's no way for us to modify it and that also means that a number of other fixes aren't currently working at all on the default skin on this wiki. Shoot him an email, as it's also missing a lot of the core functionality present in the other skins between style sheets and js calls. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Blast it. If he doesn't reply (let's assume,) any chance of a compromise between our goals and reality? All these mockups had me excited. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 10:23, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, I'm aware of the cause, but (oddly) hadn't thought to actually contact him about it. I'm a bit busy the next few days (traveling and whatnot), so if one of you guys wants to contact him... {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:57, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Is a compromise so hard? I mean what was wrong with the earlier mockups, even they were better than what we have at the moment. I'm not trying to wriggle out of emailing him, I just think that's the best route atm, because Kevan, I assume, won't do anything, and even then I wouldn't know what to say. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::As I recall, there were issues both with the earlier "compromise" designs and the final one, beyond the technical difficulties. And since no one was forthcoming with solutions and it was eating up too much time to do it on my own, I gave it up until someone had a great idea or we could solve the technical issues. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::Ah, fair enough. Well I won't be any more of a "has no idea what he's demanding but demands it anyway" dude so I'll just say 'what a shame' and be done with it :'( {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 
Icon should do the thing he doesn't have time to do because I'm assuming it'll make my default skin look all pretty and shit and I'd enjoy that.--[[User:SA|SA]] 10:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, I know no way to modify the default skin. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:46, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 
== why is there no featured article? ==
 
well?--[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  01:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
:Looks like it's set on a cycle of "what week of the year is it" which only goes up to 53. Presumably 2012 started part of the way through a week and hence we've managed to hit the 54th week of the year. Don't think it's that big of an issue and I imagine it'll fix itself tomorrow. --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 01:07, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Announcements from Halloween? ==
 
Anything newer to report?--[[User:Sarah Silverman|Sarah Silverman]] 18:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:Nope, that's the most recent thing from [http://www.urbandead.com/news.html the news page]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
::Shouldn't we use the headlines to also announce the biggest and most recent ingame news facts as well then? I mean, discovering a wiki with a half year old, no longer applicable headline is hardly appealing to new players... {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 16:43, 26 May 2013 (BST)
:::There's been lots of discussion on that. [[UDWiki:Administration/Protections/Archive/2012_Q4#Main_Page|Example]]. You can also troll around Aichon's talk page, or one of his subpages, whatever it's called. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:56, 26 May 2013 (BST)
 
== Wiki upgrade ==
 
Hello wiki. I've just wrangled the MediaWiki install up to date, to v1.23.6. I'm currently squashing the obvious problems (I'm just looking at restoring the image in the corner now), but if there's anything I've missed, raise it here (or perhaps reuse [[Help:Wiki Update]]?) and I'll get onto it. The only significant change so far is that [[MediaWiki:Titleblacklist]] has superceded [[MediaWiki:Usernameblacklist]] - I've just copied everything across and added a <newaccountonly> tag. --[[User:Kevan|Kevan]] ([[User talk:Kevan|talk]]) 16:08, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
:So far, the only issues I've noticed are broken images (e.g. the first three flagboxes on the side of [[User:Aichon|my userpage]] seem to have broken image icons, despite my best efforts to clear the page's cache by using &action=purge and saving a non-edit to the page) and a little graphical wonkiness, which is probably related to the theme, as you mentioned elsewhere. And, honestly, we can probably kill most of the entries in the blacklist anyway. It was mostly just there to slow the spammers down a bit when they were at their worst awhile back. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
::If you mean the "Don't Take It Personally" / "Etiquette" / "Logic and Reason" boxes, they're all showing up with images for me. I'll take a look at fixing the theme tomorrow. --[[User:Kevan|Kevan]] ([[User talk:Kevan|talk]]) 18:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Those were the three. Odd, it's working fine in another browser for me, so it must be something on my end. I'll clear my cache again/restart/whatever later on my own time. Thanks for helping confirm it's on my end. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
::::Okay, so, this is a bit more unusual than I expected. On Friday I checked my page at work on Windows in Chrome (broken images) and Firefox (images working), which led me to believe it was some sort of browser caching issue in Chrome that would clear itself up. But today, I just checked my page from home on OS X in Chrome (broken images), Firefox (images working), and Safari (broken images). At home, I've disabled all browser extensions and userscripts in Chrome, just to eliminate them as variables, and yet the images still fail to show up for those specific templates. The fact that Firefox is the only browser successfully loading them for me on two separate computers has me wondering why that would be the case. I haven't used Safari or Firefox in months, so I'd expect them to perform similarly when it comes to caching issues, yet they didn't. [[User:Paynetrain|Paynetrain]] just updated his page to have a lot of images I hadn't seen before, and I'm seeing similar issues there, where Firefox successfully shows them all, while Chrome and Safari fail to do so. Go figure. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:50, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::I can't recall if this was brought up anywhere and I wanted to bring it up while I was thinking about it, but part of the issue with images not loading in some browsers stems from images which have been resized using wikicode. For example [[User:Vapor|My User Page]] did not correctly display the main image until I [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3AVapor&diff=2230356&oldid=2211542 removed the wikicode] which resized it. It's the same across the wiki for me. Any time I see an image that uses "|''nn''px", the image appears broken in my browser. As you can imagine, this creates a lot of broken images. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:12, 28 February 2015, The year of our lord (UTC)</sub>
::::::Is there an alternative code we can use? Then I can trawl through every broken image and fix them. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  20:03, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::The only other wiki markup I'm aware of to resize images is "thumb" (ex. <nowiki>[[File:Rando.png|thumb]]</nowiki>), but that doesn't appear to work either. I get the error "There was a problem creating the thumbnail". I think that's the root cause. The wiki or my browser is failing to display image sizes other than the 2 create during the image upload. This may be somehow connected to the same problem which is preventing image uploads and deletion, or it could be a wholly different problem. Kevan only knows. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>23:11, 1 March 2015, The year of our lord (UTC)</sub>
 
"Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/4/43".-Came up when i tried to upload a file..not sure if its a Bug or not--[[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#f30b0c;">Payne</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#0a1cf2;">Train</span>]]<sup>'''([[FU]])'''</sup> 10:01, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:Acknowledged, will take a look. --[[User:Kevan|Kevan]] ([[User talk:Kevan|talk]]) 10:55, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 
Well, now we have a good reason to remember the 5th of November... heh --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 11:39, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 
Apparently one new feature is that the wiki will now email you when a page you've watched has been edited. Does anyone know if this feature can be disabled? ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:19, 6 November 2014 (UTC)</sub>
: actually, this is an old feature. What is new is that pages you edit are automatically added to your watchlist... this one sucks --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
: preferences > watchlist >uncheck "Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist" > save --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:23, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks. The adding pages you edit to watch list thing can be disabled as well from the watchlist tab in preferences. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)</sub>
::: erm, that is what i just told you how to --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 18:58, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
::::Yeah, what the update did was set it so that we all get e-mailed by default for updates to watched pages. It may have also set it so that we add pages to our watchlist by default (I couldn't say, since I already had that behavior enabled). Either way, both are easily set to whatever you want in your prefs. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::Guess we edited at same time, hags. And yeah Aichon, looks like it set those options to default. Ironically, I didn't know the wiki had been updated until I got an email because a page on my watch list was edited. I came here thinking it was a talk page message. I promptly turned it off. I have a lot of admin pages on watch list still from when I was sysop. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:26, 7 November 2014 (UTC)</sub>
 
== Change afoot? ==
 
Just noticed that the names of many city blocks have their spaces missing (e.g. "CrossmanGrovePoliceDept") because they've been replaced with line breaks in HTML that don't actually get displayed on the page. It's a bug, obviously, but the more significant thing is that it means Kevan or someone is mucking around in the code or the data. Maybe we'll see some changes soon? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:33, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:That's funny I thought it was just my crappy internet. If it's happening to you as well then hopefully we'll see something new. Though there is a whole host of different possibilities for what it could mean. --{{User:Storm/Sig}} 19:46, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:: Yes, I have also noticed the change you have described in the buildings' names in the navigational map.  Also, I feel that fuel has been impossible (or nearly impossible) to find in the last 4-6 days.  My best guess is that Kevan is implementing changes based on the Ten-Year Survey. --[[User:PyroSadist|PyroSadist]] ([[User talk:PyroSadist|talk]]) 19:48, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:::I actually just found some fuel yesterday after Bob mentioned that it was hard to find. >_> {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
::::I haven't been able to find fuel at all. Scored on the first try at an Auto Repair about something like five days ago. Returned to the same place the next day, and haven't found any since even though I've blown all of my AP . That's over two hundred... :P {{User:Storm/Sig}} 20:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::Since I noticed the search rates getting odd, I've dumped about 100 AP into searching for fuel in my scouted safehouse, and have found exactly 1 fuel can. (Normally in those circumstances I'd find at least 4-5, if not more, in that time.)
:::::One other weird "glitch": a couple times in the past couple days, when I first log into a character, it looks like the "snow has fallen" terrain (white in e.g. streets) but once I take an action the snow goes away. Doesn't happen every time I log in though. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's always been there, but it looks like there is a different graphic to represent streets, which is largely the same color, but with some "texture?" -- [[User:PyroSadist|PyroSadist]] ([[User talk:PyroSadist|talk]]) 22:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Wow. All this news is exciting. It's a sad life when even the game suddenly becoming funky and broken is exciting, but your thoughts have kept me optimistic. Hopefully some fresh changes occur! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Here's some "objective" evidence that may correlate with fuel shortages---active Mobile-Phone Masts (MPMs) are down from 35% on 1/28/2016 to 25% on 2/02/2016 to 14% on 2/03/2016.  I will continue to record MPM functionality on the [[MPM]] page. -- [[User:PyroSadist|PyroSadist]] ([[User talk:PyroSadist|talk]]) 03:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 
A decline in fuel cans and corresponding decline in proportion of lit buildings means my EMR-based suburb-level status updates could start getting wonky — lit buildings are generally the best proxy for survivor population in a suburb. May have to not mark suburbs as ghost towns even with "few" or "only one" lit building unless further corroborated, e.g. by on-the-ground reports or serious damage level. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 06:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
:I have a feeling the change we see will either be temporary enough for this not to become an issue, or so drastic that we may have to rethink the entire dangermap concept altogether. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 11:43, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
::To be fair, I think our current dangermap system isn't sufficient anymore - the danger levels are based on zombie counts that were relevant when we had 50k players. Now that we're down to 5k, we have a danger map that's increasingly gray... which paints an accurate picture, but provides less and less pertinent information as time goes on. Perhaps the ghost town classification should be moved to a gray border of the cell? In any case, we should just be happy that the game is receiving some kind of attention from Kevan. [[User:World &#39;globe|World &#39;globe]] ([[User talk:World &#39;globe|talk]]) 18:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Most of us who've been updating the dangermap system have adjusted our "boundaries" for what qualifies as safe/ghost town downwards over time ([[Malton Danger Updaters/Tools#External Military|here's a chart of my current standards]]). Although I would agree that a "ghost town — barricaded" and "ghost town — ruined" status difference could be useful. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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