Talk:NecroWatch/Archive2

Medals

I see that the thread got moved to the Archive, but what if one were able to get scans from 'burbs that didn't have any NTs? Would that be worthy of a special commendation?--Dr Mycroft Chris 00:18, 1 April 2009 (BST)

Hmmmm. You're going to have to explain your method. --Mobius 13:19, 1 April 2009 (BST)

With science, anything is possible...LOL! I'll demonstrate it in a day or two--Dr Mycroft Chris 14:20, 1 April 2009 (BST)

DONE! Maybe we can call it the "Dedication Ribbon" or maybe "Lucky 7" because it's 7X7, or maybe "Miner 49er" because 7x7=49 and you have to "mine" the data to get this type of scan...whatever, simplest would probably be "Scout Recon" and you have to do five burbs that do not have an NT to qualify--Dr Mycroft Chris 03:35, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Okay. I like this idea, but let's see if we can't make it a bit more interesting. How about we make it harder in terms of commitment involved in acquiring the ribbon medal? Let's say to earn the ribbon you need to report a 7x7 grid for every suburb without NT buildings, namely:

• 1.Crooketon

36% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Antell Building

• 2.Dentonside

36% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=Denner Towers

• 3.Galbraith Hills

63% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Singer Building

• 4.Gatcombeton

40%, NecroNet Coverage,(53% of this suburb is empty space!) suggested Scout Location=The Pounsett Building

• 5.Greentown

83% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=Lerwill Towers

• 6.Havercroft

41% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Axworthy Hotel

• 7.Lerwill Heights

39% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Hayler Building

• 8.Mockridge Heights

36% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Shuttle Building

• 9.Mornington

0% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=Millington Towers

• 10.Pennville

70% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Wagland Building

• 11.Reganbank

24% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Lantrowe Building

• 12.Rolt Heights

62% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=Mare Towers

• 13.Vinetown

31% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Yapp Building

• 14.West Boundwood

24% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Lapley Building

• 15.Wykewood

42% NecroNet Coverage, suggested Scout Location=The Skilliter Motel

That's 15 suburbs and it should take a bit of time to perform the task, meaning the ribbon is more worthwhile to claim. For clarity perhaps we should mention it should be a 7x7 area from the center of each suburb, and for added difficulty perhaps we should opt for a larger area than 7x7... maybe the whole suburb? As for the name of the ribbon that may take a bit of time to work out. It should probably be connected with the fact that you are providing recon for suburbs without NT buildings. --Mobius 15:43, 6 April 2009 (BST)

It should also be determined if it is enough to run around taking screenshots or if you have to enter all open buildings to make sure you also count the zombies that hide in ruins... -- -Alka Selzer- ^{[ Talk - Map - Stuff ]}  17:59, 6 April 2009 (BST)

True... true. In an NT scan you actually capture the total zombies in a block regardless of whether they are inside or outside. If the recon is only from the outside then you potentially run the risk of reporting only half the story (i.e. there are no zombies in sight, when in fact 20+ zombies might be inside a building... that would be bad). As the whole point of reporting scans is reporting zombie numbers I might be inclined to agree with Alka Selzer. However, if we are making the NecroTechnician perform 2 sets of scans, one compiled from outside screenshots and one from inside each building... I would only ask for a 7x7 grid taken from the center of suburb. This would no doubt make the ribbon medal a more veteran-level honour as this would take a fair bit or work to accomplish (if just the copying/pasting to compile the "inside" recon). Of course if there are no, or few, zombies inside buildings then this task becomes somewhat simpler. --Mobius 15:07, 7 April 2009 (BST)

That was my basic idea, take a 7x7 from the center of the burb. Usually from the phone mast in each suburb because all 'burbs have one, they can be scouted from and they all are as centered as possible in their respective 'burbs. Just doing that it is already expensive AP-wise. If you were to do both in & out, you could easily use up an entire day's worth.--Dr Mycroft Chris 02:58, 9 April 2009 (BST)

So the question here is, would it be worth it? Is gathering zombie recon from both inside and outside a 7x7 grid worth the extra work required to accomplish the task (14 times)? Does it make the ribbon too annoying to bother acquiring or does it make it more challenging? Will there be too few people who bother going after the ribbon, or will there be enough that those who do feel privileged to have their ribbon while others do not? --Mobius 14:33, 9 April 2009 (BST)

I think it's a nice "hard to get" ribbon. To ease the task a bit: You can screenshot 3x3 outside, so we could reduce the task to a 6x6 image located in the center of the suburb. For example, to scan Havercroft, you'd make screenshots at Rolls Cinema, St. Callistus's Church, Shalle Plaza and Junkyard 33,46 for the outside view. For inside, you only have to check ruined buildings and TRP which are not caded. NT Scans also are not perfect, they only scan DNA-Sampled zeds, so we can live with some zombies not found. -- -Alka Selzer- ^{[ Talk - Map - Stuff ]}  14:44, 9 April 2009 (BST)

I've added some stats to the above list. Namely, the % of each suburb that is covered by NecroNet scans and a suggested NecroWatch Scout Post. I had to balance the picks with how each burb was already partially scanned by neighboring NTs and where any tall buildings were located in each burb. In some cases, there will be overlap of scans & scout reports, but that is unavoidable in certain cases. Also, there are certain spots on the map that can not be scouted from any building whatsoever. All this had to be balanced against where the NTs were located, tall buildings in the "blind" areas, etc... Significantly, there are suburbs that have an NT but still have significant "blind" spots, e.g. Dakerstown, over 40 % is unseen by NecroNet! (See gribligs.net/UDmetatac/)--Dr Mycroft Chris 08:11, 11 April 2009 (BST)

ScoutRibbon Design

...more coming--Dr Mycroft Chris 12:08, 4 May 2009 (BST)