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{{InactiveGrouptalk|early June 2010. (Or something around that, as we couldn't really stop the rampage after Ellicott was pillaged. Not that we had wanted to.)}}
==Communications Here==
==Communications Here==
Wow. You are really obssessed with this, aren't you? I think you need some help, buddy. [[User:Oidar|Oidar]] 13:57, 16 May 2010 (BST)
Wow. You are really obssessed with this, aren't you? I think you need some help, buddy. [[User:Oidar|Oidar]] 13:57, 16 May 2010 (BST)
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I will stay in the area until June 3nd or 4th. Then I will probably attend the Big Bash 3 event. I'll need to get a revive to resupply and set my radios to more fitting channels, though.  
I will stay in the area until June 3nd or 4th. Then I will probably attend the Big Bash 3 event. I'll need to get a revive to resupply and set my radios to more fitting channels, though.  
Oh, by the way, i have heard that a bunch of trenchies moved to a police station around 7 squares south of the train depot to resupply and organize a "counter-attack" (lawl). Don't know anything about their numbers, i honestly would be surprised to find more than 20 peoples there, but who knows. --[[User:Sonrah|Sonrah]] 08:06, 28 May 2010 (BST)
Oh, by the way, i have heard that a bunch of trenchies moved to a police station around 7 squares south of the train depot to resupply and organize a "counter-attack" (lawl). Don't know anything about their numbers, i honestly would be surprised to find more than 20 peoples there, but who knows. --[[User:Sonrah|Sonrah]] 08:06, 28 May 2010 (BST)
Well it's been fun, but I think it's time to move on to the Big Bash. I hope I'll see you all there. ^_^ --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 02:52, 3 June 2010 (BST)


== Looks like the "counter attack" is starting ==
== Looks like the "counter attack" is starting ==
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--{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 04:39, 1 June 2010 (BST)
--{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 04:39, 1 June 2010 (BST)
== [[Red Death]] ==
Now that the harmans have failed, some of them will be joining the Red Death. Maybe you would like to help them in their quest for death? -[[User:Lord Rutherford|Lord Rutherford]] 01:04, 2 June 2010 (BST)
== Thanks For All The Fish ==
Hey.  Been playing UD for a while, but before Escape never cared enough to get involved in... well, much of anything on the metagame side.  Gotta admit, this was pretty fun.  And regardless of what the other Escapees might say, I'm glad y'all were there.  Bit of a downer ending, but where Kevan failed, you provided.
For what it's worth from me, my commitment was to the point of the cause; wanting an ending.  You guys provided one.  So, amusingly, my first post on this wiki is also going to be my last.  I thank you for making this the best month of my time in this game, for keeping things exciting, and again, for giving me an ending.
My zombified Escapist stands in the train station.  I have a mental image of him just staring off blankly down the railroad tracks, forelorn and lost.  If this was a zombie flick out of the 70s or 80s, I'd cue up the synth, and roll the credits.  A bleak ending is as good as any, so I think that's where he'll stay.
Again, thank you, both to those in this group and to my fellow Escapees.  Take care, and have fun.  I know I did. <small>—The preceding [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:SeiganRairyuu|SeiganRairyuu]] ([[User talk:SeiganRairyuu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SeiganRairyuu|contribs]]) 08:44, June 2, 2010.</small>
::Oddly enough I left poor Zombified "Bob" standing confused and undead at the station too... Now I just need 2 more events so I can retire Arson & Ben. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 16:46, 3 June 2010 (BST)
== Why? ==
Why did you want to stop people from escaping? If they had succeeded ((let's ignore the fact they wouldn't have)), you would have had access to far more, fresher brains outside. Shooting self in foot much?--{{User:Rachel_Akebre/signature}} 08:27, 9 August 2010 (BST)
:If it was going to succeed, it would have succeeded with or without Escape, since it's all up to god (i.e. Kevan) anyway. So, whether or not they survived to escape was immaterial for the grand plan. In the meantime however, there was the biggest feast in the last year or two just sitting there ripe for the picking. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:24, 9 August 2010 (BST)
:Meh, it was only a couple hundred survivors. If the military can contain an entire city then they can contain a minor breakout, especially one as widely advertised. It's far better to grab some free eats than to bet on those long odds. --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 22:20, 9 August 2010 (BST)
:Think about it, it really wouldn't be in character for a zombah to pass up the feast of brains this offered. You've heard the expression 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'? Well one harman in my claws is worth two past the walls. Nom, nom, nom. ;)--[[User:Red Brinded Cat|Red Brinded Cat]] 12:47, 28 October 2010 (BST)
== Let's maek Nah Azzgha!Bh a historical group! ==
[[:Category talk:Historical Groups|I'd be all in favour of it.]] Even after those 3-4 months, I still hear people being excited about the slaughterfest that it had turned into. Plus, it has been recognized by the MMX. Whaddayathink? --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:18, 25 September 2010 (BST)
:Go go go. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:22, 25 September 2010 (BST)
:No, on the same grounds that I refused Escape. Being wildly successful doesn't make us historical. All we did was participate in a single event. The event should be historical, not one of many groups participating. Help write [[Escape (event)|it]], and then we can nominate that. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 05:49, 26 September 2010 (BST)
::Agreed. Event, yes, group, no. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:32, 26 September 2010 (BST)
:::Fuckin' A. Voting this in as Historical Group and having original Escape fail is just pure evidence of why I hate every single one of you all. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 09:31, 26 September 2010 (BST)
::::<s>If you need any info from the survivor side of things for a potential Escape write-up, give me a shout, I've plenty of logs, pictures and memories.</s> --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 09:34, 26 September 2010 (BST) ''edit: scratch that, I have no interest in seeing No Escape get historical, even if I did think they were a fun inevitability of the situation. If you want to make an event page representative of both sides -including all the zambah hordes involved and giddy recollection of the hilarious survivor fails-  I'll contribute, else I can't back this inflated sense of infamy over one relatively minor, if effective, group.'' --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 17:37, 26 September 2010 (BST)
::::DDR, difference is that a.) No Escape has actually been successful in what it did and b.) that it received recognition even months after the fact. In so far, I'd understand how No Escape could make it, while Escape (the group) fails. Although I'd agree that the event is the most important thing to make it to historical status. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 11:28, 26 September 2010 (BST)
:::::What a bunch of nonsense. No Escape should be historical but the group who caused it in the first place should not? Example A is shit, zombies killing survivors, yeah I haven't seen that one before. B is even worse, for the simple reason your confusing the event with the group. The event of "Escape" is what got the recognition on both sides, living and undead. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 12:22, 26 September 2010 (BST)
:::::@Spiderzed: Just to clarify, No Escape was not an event; it was a group dedicated to stopping the group [[Escape]] during the [[Escape (event)]]. We were one of several hordes who partook, and served as a rallying call to the ferals who were in the area. We aren't historical, though the event itself might be. --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:34, 26 September 2010 (BST)
::::::The idea of Escape not being recognised in the sammer manner as No Escape hinges on a few key differences. First, Escape ''did not work''. Escape foundered very quickly and there was no genuine effort to regain their losses, whereas No Escape served as a figurehead for the ''very rare'' event of multiple zombie hordes working in unison. Second, Escape was a movement of apathy, from the very point of its existence to its general lack of interest in getting anything done. No Escape actively followed an agenda, and turned a futile sit-in into a community-wide event. Third, No Escape's agenda [[Red Death|survived the event itself]] and cannot be seen as merely an extension of the event alone, so keeping it tethered to Escape rather than judging it on its own merits is both wrong and somewhat petty. I personally would vote in its favour, though I know there are valid arguments against it. However, the "why No Escape but not Escape" argument is not one of them. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:22, 26 September 2010 (BST)
:::::::I'd like to think that the other zombie groups would have shown up even if it hadn't been for us No Escapers, but you are correct that the zombies organized the hell out of things. Plus, Cat really went out of his way to wrestle us into an effective force. In the end though, I think the biggest problem with trying to vote No Escape as historical is the number of people who would oppose it. It's a numbers game, and people don't have to give a good reason to vote against it. --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 00:45, 27 September 2010 (BST)
:::::::What a fucking joke. The achievement was getting that many people together in one area for the one cause. Hadn't been done for years before. Trying to justify the zombies follow that up as more of an achievement was as forced as the Knights coming to Krinks. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 00:59, 27 September 2010 (BST)
:It was a relatively huge event in Malton's history. Just make them both fuckin historic. Does it really matter? There was seriously high attendance from both sides. I Escaped till death then No Escaped. It would be weird if when someone next year asks what "interesting" events occurred in 2010 if neither were mentioned. Therefore they're both historic, unless the bar is set really high. This weed am vapin right now is pretty fucking historic, although I may forget it by the morn... --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:53, 27 September 2010 (BST)
::We would, but the zeds would QQ. I mean did QQ. You know, if everyone spent as much energy on [[Escape (event)|here]] than they did bitching and justifying their respective sides on this groups, you'd we'd all at least have a historical page that serves as a compromise for all POVs. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 00:59, 27 September 2010 (BST)
== [[Escape II]] ==
Assuming the Holiday Feast gets off the ground, is anybody still hungry? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 02:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
:Mah gannah nahm Azzgha!Bh!Ngh harmanbargarz. Ahm nahm nahm! Maybe I reactivate Blanka. Maybe I lend the show some glamour with my MMA-nominated death-cultist. Or maybe I do something utterly different, leave Nah Azgha!Bh to others this time and rather look if Cobra would like to foil those plans (especially as most of us are comfortable with and capable of acting as zombies when the area goes inevitably down). We'll see. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 02:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
::*Emits loud feeding groan* ;) --[[User:Red Brinded Cat|Red Brinded Cat]] 13:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
==[[The Rothwell Building]]==
[[Escape_II:_A_Very_Escape_Christmas/Radio#December_10|Go, go, go!]] --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 20:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:Strange choice with one major horde already in Penny Heights and two more close by. Seems like disinformation. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 20:50, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
::I had a suspicion that Rothwell would be the location when I saw [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ADangerReport%2FThe_Rothwell_Building&diff=1819624&oldid=1818828 this] a few days ago. Of course he had to pick a location where another event was already planned 2 days later. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::An MMA nominee from me is already at the scene, as he was already nearby. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 21:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:Has the caterer delivered the meal yet? :D --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 02:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:06, 20 May 2011

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No Escape are no longer active. It's talk page is preserved for archival purposes. Please note that any messages left here will probably not be responded to. This group was reported inactive on early June 2010. (Or something around that, as we couldn't really stop the rampage after Ellicott was pillaged. Not that we had wanted to.) Not Inactive?


Communications Here

Wow. You are really obssessed with this, aren't you? I think you need some help, buddy. Oidar 13:57, 16 May 2010 (BST)

Obsessed? I think you have the wrong group. You must be looking for Escape, I'm just looking for dinner. :D But seriously, I think we can all agree that UD has gotten boring and some updates are desperately needed, maybe Kevan will do something but maybe he won't. In the interim, a little fun would be nice and a good old fashioned giant siege would at least be exciting and might renew some interest for zombahz and harmanz. ;) --Red Brinded Cat 14:25, 16 May 2010 (BST)

well, if anything's going to actually make a difference like On Strike it might as well be this. Might wanna tell Kevan about it, unless CaptainVideo has already. -- 14:38, 16 May 2010 (BST)
I did email him recently and mentioned Escape as one example of game dissatisfaction, no answer yet...why doesn't that surprise me. :P --Red Brinded Cat 14:47, 16 May 2010 (BST)
Maybe because he's busy working on the updates he mentioned on his talk page last month, two days before this silly idea ever took off? --Grogh 23:59, 17 May 2010 (BST)
Sieges don't exist anymore since Kevan introduced cade-blocking. Beachhead tactic > Everything else. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 14:53, 16 May 2010 (BST)
It seems to me you don't know what are you talking about Mister Oakley - either that or you have different understanding of word "siege". I have been in sieges when 80+ zombies attacked one building and survivors held it for a month and that was after the cade-blocking was introduced (competence of attackers could be another question but it included daily break-ins) Alexander Abramov 19:16, 16 May 2010 (BST)
Thad is correct. Even if you hold the building because you have five-hundred times as many survivors as zeds, it'll be about two days before the zeds start parachuting, or one of the big groups turns up to put you all down. The sad truth is that the art of the seige is dead.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:19, 16 May 2010 (BST)
was in a month "siege" at one of the forts in malton, so your wrong. 80+ on both sides, even groups on both side, --Dirty 19:55, 16 May 2010 (BST)
Thats the issues with forts. For every zombie attacking the gatehouse, you'll have one survivor inside, and another one in the infirmary, or the armoury or storehouse. The bottlenecking of the gatehouse means that cade blocking is much less effective. Try doing at fort perryn. Thats always a good laugh. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:07, 16 May 2010 (BST)
Ferals vs Large Survivor Group don't count. Come back when you hold the RRF out for more then 10 seconds. There hasn't been anything meaningful like a true Mall siege since Giddings vs BB2 during late 07, at which cade-blocking was introduced. Truth is the game is slowly dwindling in numbers, and sieges (which were highlights during the old days) being nowadays non-existent is an important reason for that. I support the idea behind Escape but I highly doubt Kevan will do much with it. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 20:58, 16 May 2010 (BST)
they weren't ferals, we're a small group at best, and it was multiple months in two different nts. but who's counting?--Calista griffin 23:06, 26 May 2010 (BST)
Also, I luv that "Mister Oakley" stuff. It's funny. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 21:00, 16 May 2010 (BST)
Whining survivors. Wah, no more real sieges, where we can sit in a mall and barricade up to EHB as soon as a breach occurs and then kill the few zombies that did get in, at our leisure. That's not a zombie apocalypse, that's a turkey shoot. Cade-heal-kill killed the mall siege, because it was just too effective. It's no fun for zombies if they need 5 times the survivor force to compete, especially given that they're always... ALWAYS... outnumbered by survivors on the stats page. With 'cade blocking, both sides can still have their fun, zombies by trashing buildings, survivors by playing the river tactic game, because there is no way that zombies can cover the whole map, there is always a zombie void to flow into -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:30 23 May 2010 (BST)
A big void. Nothing to be done! 01:35, 23 May 2010 (BST)

Interest

I'll join this one :-D -- Spiderzed 23:07, 16 May 2010 (BST)

Ditto. I'm going to finally go rotter just for the occasion. It should make being dual natured much more interesting. Shatari 00:29, 18 May 2010 (BST)

Cooperate or They'll Escape

My zombie can be on location by tomorrow, but I'm not sure how much success we may have. We'll need to work together if we're going to ruin their buildings, and thus plans, in the limited time we have. We'll need massive publicity and dozens of ferals. But mostly, we'll need an efficient plan.

We'll start with The Woodbone. I've much experience attacking the W, though I've never had such an important time limit. Luckily, downing a RR is simple; It just takes sheer force of numbers. Your priorities are, in order: Rise, groan, GK, and Kill. Our priority is not their HP but their AP. Do not focus only on getting food. That kind of selfish greed is anti-barhah and has been a constant source of undead failure. We're not the undeadites. We're not here to eat. We're here to win. Every time we spend just 7 AP to go back in (or 5 if they CR us), we cost them more than thrice that amount. Getting shot is tipped wildly in our favor. You should be checking back every hour to see if you once again have the opportunity to stand up and walk back in. Only if it's clear that you won't be their next target, or you have to sleep/work, should you destroy the generator. This is also a very efficient move. For 10 AP, you cost them what is usually around 25. What's more, both forcing them to kill you and to replace generators requires that they make constant trips to the nearest unruined PD or factory. Once there are many undead occupants and no generator, or you're full on AP and there's no generator, it's time to start clearing the way for ruin. Killing is hard on us as much as it is on them. It could take one of us a full 20 AP, and they need not use much more to undo it. Infect them, knock them down to size, and drag them out of our way. Hopefully we can ruin it before Monday. It all depends on how many meatshields there are.

Hellacott is going to be packed and barricaded. We need strike teams. Hopefully we can all group into a few times. These strike times will not be public. People will not flee, despite the prominence of River tactics. They will stay and actively barricade. We thus need a form of closed communication. I highly recommend the DSS Satellite Phone to FireFox users. My number is 882-6834. As for users of IE (or some other browser) you should either use FF for the remaining 13 days or try to use either barhah or email. Regardless, once we agree on a few times, we'll stick to the typical strike tactics; Smash the barricades (at the pre-arranged time), GK, Infect, Kill, and Sway. The last part is important. Cade-blocking a target is better than keeping a RR ruined, as we can't expect cades to go up in the RR. But unlike in the RR, you should be willing to attack a harman even if it means not having enough AP to immediately rise back up if killed, as we may be expelled rather quickly, and must kill while we can.

More important than anything is that you are stay determined, pure of heart, and have complete faith in barhah. We can beat these pathetically anti-barhah trenchies. There's a lot, and it won't be easy... But we're already dead. What are they going to do, shoot us? --VVV RPGMBCWS 08:44, 20 May 2010 (BST)

You can PM me on Barhah or Brainstock, either will work, I'll post a SAT phone later, just need to get a new number for this alt. I agree there will need to be coordination but it's difficult without a forum, however it would be easy enough to get a temporary chatzy room, I'll work on that tonight as well. --Red Brinded Cat 21:40, 20 May 2010 (BST)
I should be on route by tomorrow. If you can post a schedule, it would be a big help on the coordination. Since I have more exp than god, I can focus on destroying gennies, mass infections, and dragging people out into the streets.Shatari 02:13, 22 May 2010 (BST)
Update: I'm in position. Anyone want to draft an attack time chart? Shatari 23:47, 22 May 2010 (BST)
I was thinking we should try to start some coordination tomorrow. Perhaps just after 22:00 UK time as that gives most time zones a chance to get in on it. If you're on Brainstock or Barhah PM me for the Chatzy room I made for this. --Red Brinded Cat 00:53, 23 May 2010 (BST)

Climax Event

That seems to be what you are creating here. Although it makes my life difficult as a rot reviver, I'm all for it. It makes the Escape more exciting. Like a Climax Event in Left 4 Dead! I mean, it's not as if you are even an organized horde. The zeds are only just trickling in. --Demonsul 16:04, 20 May 2010 (BST)

Extinction is moving down for the party. Currently 70+ brains in open Woodborne NT, plenty of revives to go around and apart from 30 reviving bodies on the doorstep barely any zombies anywhere in town all the way to the borders of deserted Dunnell Hills and south to Grigg Heights ... Malton's very quiet these days. So we're assembling a Zombie groaning choir. Has anyone approached RRF/MoB? --Zeug 18:33, 20 May 2010 (BST)
The hordes tend to have their own agendas to follow, co-operation between them is not really an option, but I suppose you could try. Nothing to be done! 19:03, 20 May 2010 (BST)
RRF/Mob would never cooperate with Extinction but we've rampaged side by side several times. Zed groups will converge on big brain harvests and Escape is looking very tasty. 85 dead bodies outside Woodborne NT now and last I checked MoB was in Eastonwood heading west. --Zeug 19:05, 22 May 2010 (BST)
It's now official and public that RRF rolls towards Ellicott. No official news on MOB, but the movements show a very clear direction. And Zeug, those two aren't the only two not too thrilled about seeing Extinction popping up. Hadn't I've been before you there and hadn't I assumed that that the ~30 Extinction members will be drowned out by the megahorde, I'd myself have thought twice about participating if that means to work with Extinction. -- Spiderzed 23:33, 22 May 2010 (BST)
Ha, awes that RRF is on its way, just said Ha!!ah to Bisfan inside Woodborne ... and you can go bite my dead rotting arse Spiderz. Let it be recorded for Malton posterity that Extinction was there first!! --Zeug 10:42, 24 May 2010 (BST)
Sorry, but JohnnyBass was there long before you were. I've been in Ellicott for hours and haven't seen a single Extinction zombie yet. And that was a live rotting ass, Mrhcow. Your zombie-fu PHAIL. --Grogh 03:08, 26 May 2010 (BST)
Dry land is not a myth. --Papa Johnny 04:23, 27 May 2010 (BST)
Hola grogh n johnno, made Woodborne on the 19th, was weirdly quiet, has been a fun slaughterfest since. Truly an honour to fight alongside your RRF/MoB multi-alts, say hi to Jorm for me yeh? --Zeug 20:44, 28 May 2010 (BST)
Most excellent. I'm trying to get the word out to other groups now but I think some already know, obviously the FU know. :) --Red Brinded Cat 21:45, 20 May 2010 (BST)

Organization

I'm Serial Kicked, i was one of the first guys with the No Escape tag, but i'm not the "owner" of this group. I work against escape both as an human (because of the radio spam) and as a zombie (because of brainz). This is an interesting location. There's no nearby resource building apart from the fuel station and the Rotter Revive Clinic nearby. The rotter clinic is a problem as long it's in escape's hands, but it can be an useful asset for 'dual nature' operations, i've been revived there countless times no matter how many Escape player i've killed. A temporary alliance with the clan handling the clinic could be a good idea.

This said, there's 285 people in the train station. Around 30% of low level alts. There's about 30 people in the fuel depot, and 50 in the rotter clinic. Some of the buildings around also have a bunch of people inside (20-50) but most of them are tourists. Sonrah 22:51, 22 May 2010 (BST)

There's no "clan" controlling the rot clinic, just a sign reading "get rot revives here, no cades please" and some Escapees taking it as an order. -- Spiderzed 23:37, 22 May 2010 (BST)
Currently they seem to be barricading the Rot Clinic up tight every time a zombie breaks in. Shatari 23:47, 22 May 2010 (BST)
There has been some trenchie arguing over that, good lolz. :P --Red Brinded Cat 00:50, 23 May 2010 (BST)
I've started a graffiti campaign for electing the support of spies, curmudgeons malcontents, cold-blooded killers and all the other folks that make Malton interesting. ( http://tinyurl.com/No-Escaping-Malton NoEscape ) I'm not sure how effective it will be but if we get up in enough suburbs I'm sure there will be an outpouring of support from the wholesome underbelly of Malton. Not to mention the esteemed hordes throughout. Is the MOB on the way? How about the RRF? My interest in this is such that I would rather see an outpouring of support from satisfied inhabitants eclipse that of the myopic clan of fools that is the Escape.
'The wise shall inherit glory, But shame shall be the legacy of fools.'
MikhailI don't have to be careful, I've got a gun.Kalashnikov разговор 06:27, 23 May 2010 (BST)
Don't just spray the same thing over and over! Be creative, exploit every character, and don't bother with the tinyurls! As for the MOB and RRF, the latter won't come, but the MOB seems to be sprinting over. That's one of the differences between us and our foes. We have support from actual, organized groups, not just mobs of half-played characters. --VVV RPGMBCWS 09:00, 23 May 2010 (BST)
Last I heard, the RRF was on it's way as well. They'd be missing out on some great eats otherwise.Shatari 09:41, 23 May 2010 (BST)
You never know who might show up to dinner. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 23:31, 23 May 2010 (BST)
So if there's no organized group there (apart from escape members), i guess we could raze and occupy the place. Z numbers are growing quickly and GK/RK operations in the area aren't very useful due (or thanks) to the lack of resources in the area. Sonrah 21:53, 23 May 2010 (BST)
The trouble is that there are at or around 300 standing humans in the region, and only around 50 dedicated zombies. We're running their needle supply low (it takes a lot of AP to find a needle and revive a friend, especially when the NT building is unlit), but there's currently enough of them to make our job impractical. Happily, things should swing in our favor once we start organizing and reinforced. --Shatari 22:10, 23 May 2010 (BST)
See the front page for the current target. Reinforcements on the way. ;) --Red Brinded Cat 00:17, 24 May 2010 (BST)
Yeah we are few in numbers for now. But given the ridiculous (or Fun) amount of corpses around the location (100+ around the NT building only) and the very high % of rotters, as soon as they run out of needles -and they will- we should get the upper hand. By the way, i've followed some discussions inside the NT building, it's very probable that they will start barricading soon. If they start doing so and change the graffitis, we should try to change them back to "no barricade - rotter clinic" to confuse newcomers. And like said the other guy, killing any generator in the fuel depot and the NT building should be top priority for alive players. Sonrah 03:44, 24 May 2010 (BST)
There are 24 zombahz there now, so cading is no longer an options. ;) Excellent work! Nah, it's not work, it's fun! --Red Brinded Cat 06:06, 24 May 2010 (BST)
We're up to 28+ zombies now. I've been standing here bite sniping people since last night without taking more than a non-headshot kill. They didn't even dump the body. Also amusing: So far they've wasted 4 needles on me, 3 to no effect. Saying "Mrh" has more effect on their needle supply than killing them does, and I even have "No Escape" in my profile... ^_^ --Shatari 01:30, 25 May 2010 (BST)
This belongs to all my zambah brazzahz ahn z!zzahz who made it possible, BARHAH! There is No Escape! -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 07:06, 25 May 2010 (BST)
BARHAH! Much Zombah love!<3 --Red Brinded Cat 13:00, 25 May 2010 (BST)


Here is a recent report i got when i was inside the building: "HOLD OFF AS MANY AS YOU CAN, THEN HEAD 7S TO HADDOCK ROW FOR RESUPPLY. http://tinychat.com/ellicott"

The chat-room itself has maybe 20 active people and are mainly arguing on trivial matters. Some of them may relocate (lol) when the MoB will hit the place. If they want to waste AP searching for ammo in a police station, i say let them. Still you may want to monitor the chatroom. Don't brag being a Z or a no escape member there, you'll get IP banned :) Sonrah 01:19, 26 May 2010 (BST)

"Don't brag being a Z or a no escape member there, you'll get IP banned" - I was surprised they could link me saying "I'm a spy." to me actually being a spy. They're smarter than we thought. --VVV RPGMBCWS 01:24, 26 May 2010 (BST)
Come on guys, there's no need for spying or anything of the sort. Unless it's to be friendly and say hello, try to stay out of their chat. Let's keep this as clean and fun as possible. --Papa Johnny 02:23, 26 May 2010 (BST)
I don't consider getting a look at a publicly advertised chatroom as spying to be honest (as opposed to infiltrate a private forum). Meta-gaming is fair game to me, i don't force anyone to do so, though. Sonrah 02:50, 26 May 2010 (BST)
They should IP ban all the zombies in there if they don't want them there. The channel is advertised for the pro-Escape people to organize, it's not very classy for us to get on there and try to see their plans. It's an underhanded tactic no matter how you try to spin it and it should be avoided. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 03:08, 26 May 2010 (BST)
I'd have to agree. We're winning as it is, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. There's no reason to sneak into their chat. --Shatari 03:17, 26 May 2010 (BST)
If you want to visit their public chat, tell them who you are and ask them to use Mesquite BBQ sauce. It's my favourite. :) I don't agree with spying but a friendly hello is okay if you're honest about who you are. I'm just not sure how welcome it would be though. :P Have fun, play fair and bon appétit! --Red Brinded Cat 04:21, 26 May 2010 (BST)
Point taken. Agreed. --Sonrah 17:44, 26 May 2010 (BST)
We know you've been spying since the start: had RRF, MOB and Extinction in the chat within an hour of setting it up. You are welcome to come and chat, so long as the discourse stays classy, civil and friendly. And I'd appreciate it if you reveal your intentions upon entry, and leave when asked. Come tell us our brains are tasty... --RenegadeRomero 19:40, 27 May (BST)
If you have any specific complaints against spying by the RRF, forward them to either Papa Globule or Jadkor over on barhah.com via pm. The RRF specifically prohibits spying of any sort. For the MOB, forward them to Grogh, Liche, or Bisfan. --Papa Johnny 20:58, 27 May 2010 (BST)
As Papa Johnny said, please let us know if you have any complaints about RRF'ers coming into your chat. As soon as we became aware of RRFers going into your chat we immediately issued strict guidelines to our members which include everything you stated. And I promise you that if any RRF member provided info from your chat we would never act on it and would punish the person providing it. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 21:53, 27 May 2010 (BST)
Thank you, the representatives from MOB and RRF have remained classy at all times so far, and I certainly enjoy the chat and banter. I have to say I can't do much about what 'Escape' affiliated individuals may have to say to you in our chat- as you'd expect from a very loosely maintained survivor group we occasionally get some mad trenchies types who wander in and bring the drama- but if you have any complaints about someone in our chat, please let me know and I can do my best to moderate. --RenegadeRomero 00:00, 28 May (BST)

By the way, our numbers are fairly low inside the NT building and i know i state the obvious here but, sleeping there when nearly out of AP would be a good thing to do if you want to keep the building under control. --Sonrah 17:44, 26 May 2010 (BST)

What to expect

Lots of trenchiness, headshots and scared harmanz saying and doing stupid things. Proven true in today's onslaught. -- Spiderzed 00:26, 25 May 2010 (BST)

Zombies teaming with brainstock to kill fellow zombies :(' --Sonrah 21:41, 26 May 2010 (BST)

? -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 21:52, 26 May 2010 (BST)
Today i have been put to very low HP by a zombie and then killed by an human, not always the same, though. Happened 2 times. One time in the NT building while i was resting, and one time in the station. --Sonrah 00:20, 27 May 2010 (BST)
I've noticed a couple of life cultists running around too, and many of the survivors are encouraging their dead friends to kill zombies too. This has actually worked to my benefit several times, since I'd rather be killed by a zombie than by a head shot. --Shatari 02:54, 27 May 2010 (BST)

Great Quotes

Zumm Zero said "Who's laughing now huh dead motherfuckers!" (43 minutes ago)
A zombie ( SLPE ) dragged Zumm Zero out into the street. (43 minutes ago) -- Spiderzed 21:00, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Proffesor Chaos said "I hate you zombies. Looks like 400 plus survivors are going to quit. Congraulations" (30 minutes ago)

400 survivors are going to quit because half their number in zombies roughed them up a bit? --Shatari 03:46, 27 May 2010 (BST)
Complaining of being killed by zombies in a zombie game. That's a new one. By the way i'm pretty sure that a fair % of those players will continue the game after a while, not even speaking of the countless alts created only for the occasion. --Sonrah 04:08, 27 May 2010 (BST)

Jack RCDF said "Why can't we just be friends? WHY CAN'T WE GET ALONG?" (1 hour and 15 minutes ago)

A zombie killed a fuzzy kitten. (1 hour and 13 minutes ago) --VVV RPGMBCWS 05:26, 27 May 2010 (BST)

noobermenschen said "Not to worry, I've seen it get this bad before."
noobermenschen said "Of course, everyone died that time..." --Grogh 14:30, 27 May 2010 (BST)

That's just hilarious, noober is awesome. <3 --Red Brinded Cat 01:57, 28 May 2010 (BST)

Perry Parker said "Damn you zombies!! [throws chair into horde] We were supposed to escape! Why won't you let us leave! [punches zombie in rotted chest] Wait...wait...maybe you're all here to escape too, eh? Eh? Maybe that's too much to ask though..." --Red Brinded Cat 16:00, 27 May 2010 (BST)

Flipyap said "i will fight you basterds until i die" (4 minutes ago)
A zombie ( BeetleMercura ) dragged Flipyap out into the street. (3 minutes ago) -- Spiderzed 16:14, 27 May 2010 (BST)

"The Escape was a good idea. Fuck this game, and fuck zergers." -Carmina Damascus's profile

Remember: If you can't beat them then accuse them of zerging. --Shatari 22:51, 27 May 2010 (BST)
Which is exactly where most accusations come from. There's no significant reason to suspect at least half the people who are accused. Except that they don't fold beneath our might. Only zergers could accomplish that. --VVV RPGMBCWS 04:46, 1 June 2010 (BST)

FractalDoom said "Holy crap! I leave for an hour to go jogging, with only Grogh and three others inside, and I come back to 60+?" (4 minutes ago) FractalDoom said "The lesson is clear: exercise leads directly to zombie attacks." (3 minutes ago) -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 02:21, 28 May 2010 (BST)

Uh, i was about to copy that one. --Sonrah 03:50, 28 May 2010 (BST)

A zombie bit man who gets eaten to death. (14 minutes ago) --Shatari 05:08, 28 May 2010 (BST)

Deadmanswalking killed a zombie with a pistol. (13 minutes ago)
Deadmanswalking said "And you can suck my 12 inch too, Mr. Zombie" (13 minutes ago)
Deadmanswalking said "Whoa, when the hell did I get bit?" (12 minutes ago)
--VVV RPGMBCWS 04:46, 1 June 2010 (BST)

The Beginning of The End of Escape

At 2330 Malton time the survivor population of Ellicott dropped below 200. At 0150 it dropped to 150, and now stands at 140. It's all over but the cleanup.
Survivors are threatening a comeback on the first. What are they gonna do, shoot us? Obviously, they think so, and that it might even bother us (haha): Fursieseki said "We're regrouping, and on the first this place is going to be a real mess. You won't want to be on the receiving end of our bullets~"
As to what they're going to do on the first, well, that's a little unclear. They don't seem to have a complete grasp of game mechanics: Broneh said "The rest of you fat jerks can run home to mama if you want but you're missing the point. This isn't about being alive or dead, it's about escaping the fucking game. It's still possible to commit mass suicide as a zombie."
Broneh said "Zombies still die when they hit the ground just like humans do."
Broneh said "So run away if you want to, I'm staing here and on the 1st I'll still be jumping out of that building and laying there forever."

Who wants to break the news to him? -- Grogh 03:00, 27 May 2010 (BST)

Why would I care if I'm on the receiving end of a bullet? That's nothing more than 7AP, and that's if I take a headshot and get dumped outside. --Shatari 03:46, 27 May 2010 (BST)
I wish we could just jump out of a window and die. Feeding on corpses takes forever. --VVV RPGMBCWS 03:53, 27 May 2010 (BST)

mulder42 said "now remember how the zeds went on strike? escape is kinda the same thing. see they want a bit of an active system or something from the mods/admins. now zeds rush to try to stop that since a change anywhere would prolly be bad for them, and No Escape is poorly thought out. not getting up when killed would be like ignoring you played and similar to saying that winning in football is done by kicking off and leaving for home."

Hehe, somebody got butthurt.--Agent Sandman 03:42, 27 May 2010 (BST)

I'm starting to wonder if any of these people have ever seen a zombie movie. We're supposed to be nigh unstoppable; if we weren't then there wouldn't be much of a threat... --Shatari 03:46, 27 May 2010 (BST)
"'now zeds rush to try to stop that since a change anywhere would prolly be bad for them, and No Escape is poorly thought out'" lol. Like we can think about something else than brains (for the zombies here) and being somewhat pissed off by the amazing amount of radio spam they made on all channels (for the living). Anyway, i've to admit this Escape/NoEscape madness was one of the funniest event i have been since a (too) long while. --Sonrah 04:15, 27 May 2010 (BST)
Kevan already said changes were in the works so that point is moot. People complained the game was boring, so we zombahz brought them excitement. It's been the most fun this game has seen in the past year but still some people whine; you just can't please some harmanz. :P --Red Brinded Cat 12:35, 27 May 2010 (BST)
bah, beating a bunch of feral survivors too stupid to keep a cade or kill PKer/GKer, in an unique building - like shooting fishes in a barrel :D It's fun for 2 or 3 days then it gets pretty boring (or simply over, when the coaties are running to their Mrh? farm), it's like rushing a mini-Mall, nothing really new (except the few naive kids asking zeds/pkers not to kill them, which is not really some ingame action). --PyroPyro 00:52, 28 May 2010 (BST)

Ellicot has been destroyed

Literally one minute ago.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:36, 27 May 2010 (BST)

And I took a picture! -- Spiderzed 17:05, 27 May 2010 (BST)
Yes that was fun, thanks for the screenshot. There's still a few people in the fuel station and nearby building. By the way, don't forgetforget that we have to keep the location under control until the end of June the 1st. Anyway nice work everyone, and thanks to the MoB, RRF, ferals and other groups. --Sonrah 01:25, 28 May 2010 (BST)

After the bomb

So, once the 2nd has come and passed, what does everyone want to do next? Want to visit CORAM and meet Captain Video in person? He's a really cool guy, and has very good taste. ^.^ --Shatari 04:28, 28 May 2010 (BST)

He has good taste, but is he tasty? :D --Red Brinded Cat 05:12, 28 May 2010 (BST)
Only one way to find out! :D --Shatari 07:15, 28 May 2010 (BST)

There can be neither escape from Malton nor from our undying wrath. We must continue to hunt them down indefinitely. Fill your contact list with whichever 150 are most trenchie and most likely to stick around (high level/early creation). Stay in O-bank until you have something else to do, and then selectively target them whenever you see them around.

They may try again later, and we need to be ready to meet these aftershocks. Just because both groups can only shrink now, doesn't mean you should be afraid to coordinate with each other. Be ready. --VVV RPGMBCWS 04:47, 28 May 2010 (BST)

I'll be lurching on as a loyal child of Ridleybank. And maybe do some big bashing type stuff here and there.-- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 05:21, 28 May 2010 (BST)

This Big Bash 3 thing has my interest. I'll be keeping an eye on that. --Shatari 07:15, 28 May 2010 (BST)
I agree. When this is over, everyone just pile in to Arkham.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:31, 28 May 2010 (BST)

I will stay in the area until June 3nd or 4th. Then I will probably attend the Big Bash 3 event. I'll need to get a revive to resupply and set my radios to more fitting channels, though. Oh, by the way, i have heard that a bunch of trenchies moved to a police station around 7 squares south of the train depot to resupply and organize a "counter-attack" (lawl). Don't know anything about their numbers, i honestly would be surprised to find more than 20 peoples there, but who knows. --Sonrah 08:06, 28 May 2010 (BST)

Well it's been fun, but I think it's time to move on to the Big Bash. I hope I'll see you all there. ^_^ --Shatari 02:52, 3 June 2010 (BST)

Looks like the "counter attack" is starting

Well, the survivors have started moving into the area again. I think there's little chance that they're going to evict 100+ zombies from the railway, and most of them have been doing hit and run revives on friends more than actual attacks. So far they're using the junkyards as their primary fall back points. Everyone make room in your tummies, the final course is being served... --Shatari 18:54, 31 May 2010 (BST)

For those who missed it .. a huge fail for Escape. There were 152 zombies in Ellicott. Approximately 40 Escapees attacked. 2:15 later, there are 8 Escape still alive (all infected and being eaten) and 136 zombies in Ellicott. Not what I'd call a recapture of the building.
Does anyone have an iWit of the whole thing? At least there were some good funnies. -- Grogh 04:18, 1 June 2010 (BST)
I took screen shots of everything I did/saw right up until I was dumped outside. I missed Captain Video being eaten, but you can't have everything, right? http://s923.photobucket.com/albums/ad71/EscapeScreenshots/ --ORakoon 20:27, 1 June 2010 (BST)
Awesome, thanks ORakoon! :) It was more of a snack attack than a counter attack. :P --Red Brinded Cat 00:21, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Poetry

You fall heavily onto the pavement, a few stories below. You are dead.

June 1 2010, you lay outside the the Woodborne Building. Falling, your thoughts were of freedom, now on the ground they are that Escape never came

You stand up.

-A set of blood-smeared Fort Creedy dog-tags.

--VVV RPGMBCWS 04:39, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Red Death

Now that the harmans have failed, some of them will be joining the Red Death. Maybe you would like to help them in their quest for death? -Lord Rutherford 01:04, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Thanks For All The Fish

Hey. Been playing UD for a while, but before Escape never cared enough to get involved in... well, much of anything on the metagame side. Gotta admit, this was pretty fun. And regardless of what the other Escapees might say, I'm glad y'all were there. Bit of a downer ending, but where Kevan failed, you provided.

For what it's worth from me, my commitment was to the point of the cause; wanting an ending. You guys provided one. So, amusingly, my first post on this wiki is also going to be my last. I thank you for making this the best month of my time in this game, for keeping things exciting, and again, for giving me an ending.

My zombified Escapist stands in the train station. I have a mental image of him just staring off blankly down the railroad tracks, forelorn and lost. If this was a zombie flick out of the 70s or 80s, I'd cue up the synth, and roll the credits. A bleak ending is as good as any, so I think that's where he'll stay.

Again, thank you, both to those in this group and to my fellow Escapees. Take care, and have fun. I know I did. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SeiganRairyuu (talkcontribs) 08:44, June 2, 2010.

Oddly enough I left poor Zombified "Bob" standing confused and undead at the station too... Now I just need 2 more events so I can retire Arson & Ben. --Honestmistake 16:46, 3 June 2010 (BST)

Why?

Why did you want to stop people from escaping? If they had succeeded ((let's ignore the fact they wouldn't have)), you would have had access to far more, fresher brains outside. Shooting self in foot much?--Ryvyoli Y R 08:27, 9 August 2010 (BST)

If it was going to succeed, it would have succeeded with or without Escape, since it's all up to god (i.e. Kevan) anyway. So, whether or not they survived to escape was immaterial for the grand plan. In the meantime however, there was the biggest feast in the last year or two just sitting there ripe for the picking. Aichon 16:24, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Meh, it was only a couple hundred survivors. If the military can contain an entire city then they can contain a minor breakout, especially one as widely advertised. It's far better to grab some free eats than to bet on those long odds. --Shatari 22:20, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Think about it, it really wouldn't be in character for a zombah to pass up the feast of brains this offered. You've heard the expression 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'? Well one harman in my claws is worth two past the walls. Nom, nom, nom. ;)--Red Brinded Cat 12:47, 28 October 2010 (BST)

Let's maek Nah Azzgha!Bh a historical group!

I'd be all in favour of it. Even after those 3-4 months, I still hear people being excited about the slaughterfest that it had turned into. Plus, it has been recognized by the MMX. Whaddayathink? -- Spiderzed 22:18, 25 September 2010 (BST)

Go go go. Nothing to be done! 22:22, 25 September 2010 (BST)
No, on the same grounds that I refused Escape. Being wildly successful doesn't make us historical. All we did was participate in a single event. The event should be historical, not one of many groups participating. Help write it, and then we can nominate that. --VVV RPGMBCWS 05:49, 26 September 2010 (BST)
Agreed. Event, yes, group, no. Aichon 08:32, 26 September 2010 (BST)
Fuckin' A. Voting this in as Historical Group and having original Escape fail is just pure evidence of why I hate every single one of you all. -- LEMON #1 09:31, 26 September 2010 (BST)
If you need any info from the survivor side of things for a potential Escape write-up, give me a shout, I've plenty of logs, pictures and memories. --BOSCH 09:34, 26 September 2010 (BST) edit: scratch that, I have no interest in seeing No Escape get historical, even if I did think they were a fun inevitability of the situation. If you want to make an event page representative of both sides -including all the zambah hordes involved and giddy recollection of the hilarious survivor fails- I'll contribute, else I can't back this inflated sense of infamy over one relatively minor, if effective, group. --BOSCH 17:37, 26 September 2010 (BST)
DDR, difference is that a.) No Escape has actually been successful in what it did and b.) that it received recognition even months after the fact. In so far, I'd understand how No Escape could make it, while Escape (the group) fails. Although I'd agree that the event is the most important thing to make it to historical status. -- Spiderzed 11:28, 26 September 2010 (BST)
What a bunch of nonsense. No Escape should be historical but the group who caused it in the first place should not? Example A is shit, zombies killing survivors, yeah I haven't seen that one before. B is even worse, for the simple reason your confusing the event with the group. The event of "Escape" is what got the recognition on both sides, living and undead. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 12:22, 26 September 2010 (BST)
@Spiderzed: Just to clarify, No Escape was not an event; it was a group dedicated to stopping the group Escape during the Escape (event). We were one of several hordes who partook, and served as a rallying call to the ferals who were in the area. We aren't historical, though the event itself might be. --Shatari 18:34, 26 September 2010 (BST)
The idea of Escape not being recognised in the sammer manner as No Escape hinges on a few key differences. First, Escape did not work. Escape foundered very quickly and there was no genuine effort to regain their losses, whereas No Escape served as a figurehead for the very rare event of multiple zombie hordes working in unison. Second, Escape was a movement of apathy, from the very point of its existence to its general lack of interest in getting anything done. No Escape actively followed an agenda, and turned a futile sit-in into a community-wide event. Third, No Escape's agenda survived the event itself and cannot be seen as merely an extension of the event alone, so keeping it tethered to Escape rather than judging it on its own merits is both wrong and somewhat petty. I personally would vote in its favour, though I know there are valid arguments against it. However, the "why No Escape but not Escape" argument is not one of them. Nothing to be done! 19:22, 26 September 2010 (BST)
I'd like to think that the other zombie groups would have shown up even if it hadn't been for us No Escapers, but you are correct that the zombies organized the hell out of things. Plus, Cat really went out of his way to wrestle us into an effective force. In the end though, I think the biggest problem with trying to vote No Escape as historical is the number of people who would oppose it. It's a numbers game, and people don't have to give a good reason to vote against it. --Shatari 00:45, 27 September 2010 (BST)
What a fucking joke. The achievement was getting that many people together in one area for the one cause. Hadn't been done for years before. Trying to justify the zombies follow that up as more of an achievement was as forced as the Knights coming to Krinks. -- LEMON #1 00:59, 27 September 2010 (BST)
It was a relatively huge event in Malton's history. Just make them both fuckin historic. Does it really matter? There was seriously high attendance from both sides. I Escaped till death then No Escaped. It would be weird if when someone next year asks what "interesting" events occurred in 2010 if neither were mentioned. Therefore they're both historic, unless the bar is set really high. This weed am vapin right now is pretty fucking historic, although I may forget it by the morn... --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 00:53, 27 September 2010 (BST)
We would, but the zeds would QQ. I mean did QQ. You know, if everyone spent as much energy on here than they did bitching and justifying their respective sides on this groups, you'd we'd all at least have a historical page that serves as a compromise for all POVs. -- LEMON #1 00:59, 27 September 2010 (BST)

Escape II

Assuming the Holiday Feast gets off the ground, is anybody still hungry? --Shatari 02:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Mah gannah nahm Azzgha!Bh!Ngh harmanbargarz. Ahm nahm nahm! Maybe I reactivate Blanka. Maybe I lend the show some glamour with my MMA-nominated death-cultist. Or maybe I do something utterly different, leave Nah Azgha!Bh to others this time and rather look if Cobra would like to foil those plans (especially as most of us are comfortable with and capable of acting as zombies when the area goes inevitably down). We'll see. -- Spiderzed 02:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Emits loud feeding groan* ;) --Red Brinded Cat 13:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

The Rothwell Building

Go, go, go! --VVV RPGMBCWS 20:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Strange choice with one major horde already in Penny Heights and two more close by. Seems like disinformation. -MHSstaff 20:50, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
I had a suspicion that Rothwell would be the location when I saw this a few days ago. Of course he had to pick a location where another event was already planned 2 days later. ~Vsig.png 21:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
An MMA nominee from me is already at the scene, as he was already nearby. -- Spiderzed 21:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Has the caterer delivered the meal yet? :D --Shatari 02:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)