Talk:PANTHER

Bad Vibes

Your group has been giving off some seriously bad vibes recently, in particular to the Dulston Alliance. It's not really that nice to purposefully insult and verbally attack a group, especially when you're new to the area in comparison to the group. Also, from the dulston news page, and what I've ACTUALLY seen in Dulston, you seem to be taking credit for things which aren't actually what your group's been doing. The news page isn't a place for advertising your group. That's the advertisement page. All news should be NPOV, so I fixed yours for you. I hope that PANTHER can work with the Dulston Alliance well in the future, considering that it is the largest group/organisation in the NE. So, basically, please could you stop the rather derogatory manner in which your considering the Dulston Alliance. Thanks for reading this, --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 00:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to assume you don't speak for the entire DA, so this is directed solely at you: Get your panties out of a bunch and get to work doing something productive. Then, after that, you can come back here and cry about your ineptitude. If you like.--The Duke of Earl 20:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Ho ho ho, merry christmas! I'm going to have to step in here, Dukey baby. Koponen does speak for the entire DA here. This is slander against us...news edits on the Dulston page by yourself recently have been negative/false against the DA, and news edits are supposed to be NPOV. I'm sure PANTHER is doing a good job, but your group does not run Dulston. The DA run coordinated strikes on specific buildings with specific goals, and most of the time we're successful. You have no right to throw Mr. Koponen under the bus. I respectfully visited your forums and got no answer as of yet. We thank you for your help, but The Dulston Alliance played a major role in taking back Dulston. I have yet to see your group do anything notably significant, and once I do, I'll take back this statement. And for the record, Yonnua Koponen is a male, and therefore, does not wear panties. --Met Fan ^F 20:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

We claimed to liberate the NE, which we did. No one was here when we made our strike. We stood alone for the first 24 hours at least. All of our claims are true. Yonnua is the one making slander here if anyone is. I see that he removed all reference to our group on the News Page and yet he allows your own post on the News Page to contain several references to the DA? Are there two sets of rules, one for the DA and another for everyone else?--The Duke of Earl 21:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I hardly doubt a group with only 8 members can "liberate" the NE, unless you mean the northeast of Dulston, :P. As I said, news posts on suburb pages are to be NPOV. I'm pretty sure Yonnua only deleted the slander made by your group. If he did more then that, then I'm mistaken, and I'll take a look at it, and we can all sit down and change it back. Just understand that The Dulston Alliance is a highly successful group in what we do. We have reasons and strategic thinking behind what we do. That's why we stress you to come to our forums, so we can all work together! If you have specific questions, like, "Where was the DA when PANTHER took back 'this building'?", we'd love to talk strategy with you on our forums. Remember, The Dulston Alliance is not limited to Dulston, we have to protect places like The Rhodenbank Highway, and crucial buildings outside of Dulston. So to make a short story even shorter, come on over to our forums to fix this mess. We don't intend to come off as mean or douche bags, but that's what you looked like to us. --Met Fan ^F 21:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we meant the NE of Dulston, not the ENTIRE NE. We're good, but not that good :P. I reported the truth of the situation on the ground. If that truth came off negative, it was not intended. I don't think that the truth can be considered slander. If I wanted to be negative to the DA I would have reported the DA's failed Mall Strike, but I didn't.--The Duke of Earl 21:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Glad we're going positive here. I have much to say on the recent Mall Stike made by FOXHOUND and The Imperium, but I can't reveal much here, zeds are watching! The failure of the mall strike was in fact, a success. We weren't planning to take it back completely. What would come of that? The zeds would just take it down once more. It's a twisted world. The mall has never been my best friend, all it is is a huge red target saying, Hit me zeds!. The strike was just to relieve the stress on the rest of the suburb. Oh no! I've talked strategy! Ha, I'd love to talk with you more in private! --Met Fan ^F 21:30, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Considering this, that may well be why we did so well with our own strike, as zombies were likely being distracted. PANTHER bears no ill will towards the DA, just to set the record straight. As you say, they may be watching though so, I think I've said enough here.--The Duke of Earl 21:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Guys, let's all calm down a bit here. I think, Duke... that we're just concerned about the accuracy of some of the news items that have been on the suburb page of late. For instance, the talk about "dozens of Dulston Alliance members bodies littering the ground" is a bit far-fetched. We took that, as I'm sure most third parties would, to imply that our members unsuccessfully initiated a strike on a building and were eaten by the zeds... when in reality, almost every DA member I'm aware of have been based in strategic locations in and around Dulston the past few weeks with no major losses of life, making tactical strikes, from safehouses within the suburb. I'm honestly baffled where these "dozens of bodies" you referred to could have been, or how you could possibly think that you were the sole group in the suburb this past week. We have never left Dulston, and never will. Before you critique my efforts as well, I would like to point out that I personally reclaimed the Whitlock Building roughly 48 hours ago and have kept close watch on the cades ever since. FOXHOUND, DITPS, and Dead vs. Blue (all with the Dulston Alliance) have worked diligently to restore and barricade buildings across the northern end of the suburb. You'll find that we have in fact brought Beale NT, Trood NT, St. Anacletus Hospital, and the mobile phone mast back to working order over the course of the past week. Rest assured, I have passed PANTHER operatives in my travels through Dulston, and we recognize that your group is contributing in a positive manner and has reclaimed several buildings in your own right. Indeed, we would be happy to work together and coordinate with you if you wish to, but fact of that matter is, many of our members have found the recent suburb news to be derogatory towards our organization. The ill will this generates serves no good, and creating tension among survivor groups only helps the zombies. All we ask is that, as we have shown you no discourtesy so far, could you extend the same courtesy to us? Ottari ^{DA PDA NW} Read the Dispatch! 21:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I just confused people by saying the NE. I meant only the NE of Dulston, not the rest of the Suburb, which I see is coming along nicely. In fact, I was just about to report this and the DA's efforts on the News Page when I saw this "request" from Yonnua and we went off on this little tangent. I have most of the DA members in my Contacts and my report of dozens of bodies reflected the numbers I saw as bodies when scouting the area at that time. There were other dead people on the ground as well, but so far my contacts consist almost exclusively of my members and DA members precisely because I know that the DA is a force in this area and I wanted to be be able to know who to heal/revive etc.--The Duke of Earl 21:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we're all on the same page now, and I admittedly took NE to refer to the NE corner of Malton (Pescodside/Rhodenbank/Dulston/Rolt Heights) rather than the corner of Dulston. Oops. :-p Thanks for your being patient with us through this discussion, and for taking an interest in the suburb news page. Honestly, it's nice to have other survivors posting good news stories about success around the suburb rather than the pro-zombie news that seems to have filled the page the past few months. I may drop by your forums later on... there's a few pretty reliable survivors in the area who are non-DA who I can share profile information on. Glad we can all work together, and look forward to seeing great things from PANTHER! Ottari ^{DA PDA NW} Read the Dispatch! 21:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre, 2009

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-- Linkthewindow  Talk  11:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Yep, we are active. :)--The Duke of Earl 12:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)