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--[[User:Harald von Holzapfel|Harald von Holzapfel]] 23:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
--[[User:Harald von Holzapfel|Harald von Holzapfel]] 23:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
: the fourm would be a better place to post this--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
: the fourm would be a better place to post this--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
==Pushing for change==
Plopping [http://urbandead.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1998 this thread on the RG forums] here in order to encourage people to actually look at and respond to it. Unless everyone would rather the RG to be completely dead, then hey. It's the public's call. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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Delays

OK, i use the Rogues alot (with a diff nick than this obviously) and i've noticed that the Bounty Reports that are filed get added in extremely quickly (as in a few days at most). Whereas the Pk reports are way way way way way lagged..... There are reports on there over 3 weeks old that have yet to be filed.

I see the mods have time to skim through and leave comments on reports, and in some cases added a pk report that is only a few days old, so i gotta ask... Do you guys just file your favs quickly? Do you have a bunch of mods who don't want to do their job? or what???

Sorry, but its quiet frustrating when you have some a-hole killing you every day and you have to wait for the pk reports to be filed so the person gets a bounty...

Answering as a former, not current, mod. Bounties are added more quickly for two basic reasons: the small reason is that bounty form is slightly easier (so doing bounty pages is less of a chore), and the big reason is that a bounty displayed as too high on the RG because a bounty claimed has not been counted yet is more likely to result in bounty hunting accidents than one which is too low because a PK report hasn't been added yet. If a PK report is added ahead of other PK reports in line, it's because it was necessary to add the report in order to count a bounty properly- even if a PKer is displaying a bounty of zero, you can claim a bounty if there's a report pending. Link to the report in your bounty claim, and it will generally be added before processing the bounty claim.--FT MCI 23:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for Dispute

Have you considered adding a section to the RG database that allows for "Dispute?" Where those accused can input the mitigating circumstances of a given death and the community can judge for itself? The Rogues Gallery seems to be accurate at reporting only one thing: A death of one player at the hands of another player. The 'evidence' of a screen shot proves nothing more than that. Given multiple kills, the community can read the screenshots and judge for themselves after a certain point, but wouldn't it also be good to allow the accused some space in the database to defend themselves?


Currently, your process is to appeal on your message board. Then a moderator asks for evidence of the counter-claim - and unless you are a screen-shot happy lawyeristic player, there usually will not be evidence of the contrary evidence. So no logical argument is accepted in this case. There is no jury of your peers, no reasoned judge with the ability to interpret law. There are moderators enforcing policies - akin to cops on the beat.


I say add a spot to the database where the accused can state his case, with or without evidence, and let the community decide. If a bounty hunter sees that an accused PK'er has taken the time and effort to defend his actions, he may skip to a target with less ambiguity. Or maybe not - but at least there is a bit more balance and justice. This spot would come up in the primary view as a clickable "DISPUTED" cell. The user could then click on the word "DISPUTED" just as they can click on the "DETAILS" currently.


Anyway, given my own experiences with false accusations on the RG, I will certainly treat it with much greater skepticism going forward. It's really not much more reliable than some jackass spouting off on the radio or spraypainting on a building that so-and-so is a PK'er.--Squid Boy 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


I agree.My survivor alt killed a death cultist by the name of feral undead clam and was reported for it.I don't know how to take screenshots or use the forums,but I looked at the screenshot and it was barely legible.This brings me to my questions about the RG:Why can somebody be reported for killing a zed spy/death cultist/Pker/Gker?Why are terrible screenshots accepted and allowed as evidence?Has the RG become completely unreliable?Can people just fake a screenshot of being pked by a person they hate?Why can't we dispute claims?Why are Bounty Hunters being reported just for doing their job?Has bounty hunting become just an excuse for pking?Why can people be reported for killing a pker in self-defense?Why are people ignoring all there reasons and excuses and just reporting them?Why are people targeted because they killed zeds at a cemetery or revive point?What about pking wars bewtween groups?What about people lwho kill spammers saying disturbing and abusive things?The RG NEEDS to be improved.--Gamestriker4 18:35, 17 July 2008 (BST)

There is actually a description section of the RG for each entry that allows for the RG mods to add something like "Disputed". In fact if you want to actually do a bit of research on a target listed on the RG you can actually do that. Explore the RG a little big instead of complaining and you'd see that these features are already part of it. As for your other complaints the RG is like any other bounty list that has ever been made in the game. In that it is ran by people who do all this work in their spare time.--Kristi of the Dead 05:03, 19 July 2008 (BST)

Ties to Revive Request Tool

Is the RG still tied to the revive request tool? Are PKers (and past PKers) still highlighted in red, or not? I suppose I could test it...but I'm lazy. --Jen 03:25, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Claiming a Bounty

Do you guys have any special rules on how to "claim a bounty" other than killing a registered PKer? I.E. do you have to mention that you're killing them, why, how you know, when you last went to the bathroom...etc. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 03:10, 27 July 2009 (BST)

No, if you kill a PKer on there boards, it's instantly a bounty claim. Even if you're part of a PKer seige, if the person you kill is on the RG, they don't call you a PKer, and coutn it as a bounty kill.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:04, 4 August 2009 (BST)
All you need is a screenshot. Though my characters usually die to a self-obsessed speech when it's in the name of the Rogues Gallery. --ϑϑ 11:09, 4 August 2009 (BST)
Oh, and the screenshot needs to be from a specific website. I can't remember which one, and I don't think there's a reason why.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:10, 4 August 2009 (BST)
iWitness, because it's harder to fake, right? Thanks for the info guys, I really appreciate it. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 15:47, 4 August 2009 (BST)
It isn't Iwitness. I think it's imageshack.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:02, 5 August 2009 (BST)
A very late note on the confusion: both imageshack and Iwitness are accepted. - Subotei's Crotch 09:42, 21 October 2009 (BST)
And you can find a full list of the rules, and other helpful tips, in the RG FAQ.--FT DEM 01:39, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Your new tool doesn't work

Your new tool repeatedly fails to process my re-registration, resulting in my being pk'd numerous times without justice. Please amend through here, or indicate another channel by which I can report.

Here is the pk by CrabappleJellymaker [1] of myself [2]:

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--Harald von Holzapfel 23:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

the fourm would be a better place to post this--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Pushing for change

Plopping this thread on the RG forums here in order to encourage people to actually look at and respond to it. Unless everyone would rather the RG to be completely dead, then hey. It's the public's call. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)