Talk:Signature Race/Archive

I don't plan to do anything I woulnd't otherwise do, but it does give me incentive to step up my updates. Nice to see I FINALLY edged out that damn suggestions page, and I expect to hit 500 quite soon. --Seb_Wiers VeM 00:37, 10 May 2007 (BST)

Very good!--Vista 13:03, 7 May 2007 (BST) and again +1

Heh, thanks. I've almost got an image I'm happy with so I'll be uploading it in a few seconds. Feel free to change the content on the page. It's a rough draft for now. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD GIS S! 12:11, 7 May 2007 (GMT)} +1 more for me as well =P

Ha ha! Possibly the saddest popularity contest I've heard of.... and yet, I'm in! I think we should add more categories, something like "coolest sig", "most inventive sig", and last but not least "most butt-ugly sig". Kinda like Amazing's James Earl Jones awards, except monthy. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 14:32, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Hey! What about the "Sig with the best animated picture"? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 14:34, 8 May 2007 (BST)

That would fit into "most butt-ugly sig" methinks... --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 14:39, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Heh, good ideas, I'm just adding them in. If you think of anything else feel free to add them. If I think they are terible or redundant I'll just remove them and open a discussion here about them. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR 13:40, 8 May 2007 (GMT)}

I'm thinking "most bloodiest sig pic"...but that would probably be me...since I know where to grab bloody buddy icons... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 14:42, 8 May 2007 (BST)

I think 3 pizes for signature are a bit much, seeing as we're basically about link count. how about we combine them to one? say most "noticeable" signature. ?--Vista ⁺¹ 14:46, 8 May 2007 (BST)

It works for me, it's changed now. Although now I think about it the "most creative page gain" kinda covers it. I'll think about it, but for now I'm tired so I'll figgure it out in the morning. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR 13:49, 8 May 2007 (GMT)}

Hagnat bitched me out for my 25 px square image sig (or maybe he bitched because it was a re-size of a 500 px square image), which is a bummer- it was VERY noticable. He said it was ugly- hard to see how, it was black and white. Maybe he meant its effect on page formating. --Seb_Wiers VeM 00:40, 10 May 2007 (BST)

Yeah Swiers, it screwed with the line spacing. If you made it like 15*15 or 10*10, it would have been fine. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 03:23, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Damn we are spamming the recent changes like a wildfire! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:09, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Even Lach is against this...oh well. Gotta stop now. Time for me to head to school. See ya! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:10, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Yes, even I. For a true attention *cough* seeker doesn't need this excuse to talk to people. Notice how I already have lots of links.--Lachryma^☭ 15:13, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Uh...even I have more links then you....OK...now I'm out. Bye bye! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:15, 8 May 2007 (BST)

That's cuz your earliest contrib is from the 26 of July, while mine is the 26 of October. That's an extra three months for you to get linked in places. Duh.--Lachryma^☭ 15:26, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Hmmm, yeah well I was going to idle out of the wiki for a few months, then this popped up! I think I'll take taht holiday down the track, a little later on. And damn, it's 15 past midnight here in Australia... I should go to bed! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:16, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Idling out? seriously? that would be a shame. and happy dreams--Vista ⁺¹ 15:18, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Yeah, I'm studying Journalism at the moment. It's not the study, it's gonna be the practical work that takes up my time. Ya'know interviewing people, writing up stories, getting updates, research etc. Gotta get the scoop, ya know! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:21, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Journalism? nice. Perhaps contributing to one of the papers here might get you credit?--Vista ⁺¹ 15:26, 8 May 2007 (BST)

I was actually thinking of writing a proper article for the wiki papar, whatever it's called. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:28, 8 May 2007 (BST)

There's like 3. The RRF's one, the DHPD's (sorta) one, and some other random one.--Lachryma^☭ 15:30, 8 May 2007 (BST)

If you have links, could you leave them on my talk page for me? Kudos to you if you find em for me! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:31, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Interesting. I don't know if I should be proud to be the 18th most linked to user, or if I should be thinking about retirement. I think I'll sign up, not like I have anything better to do.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MEMS|^DHPD 02:22, 10 May 2007 (BST)

Glad to have you with us. And as long as you haven't passed xiod it's not time for retirement yet--Vista ⁺¹ 17:10, 10 May 2007 (BST)

I believe the correct name for such an awesome force is "Xoid". Duh.--Lachryma^☭ 03:38, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Are you making fun of my spleechimpediment?--Vista ⁺¹ 16:34, 11 May 2007 (BST)

No, just your slurred typing. Stagger straight!--Lachryma^☭ 04:52, 12 May 2007 (BST)

Grumbles

Well, I noticed this thing long ago, but only decided to sign up now. Arh... By the way - proposition, when voting for sig, use subst: like {{subst:User/sig}}, so that current text of sig was included and was voted on. Ya'know, it changes with time... --Duke Garland_T^{LCD SSZ} 16:40, 9 June 2007 (BST)

A Siren's Parting Cry

I know this is just fun and all, but the parting words of Mia Kristos still ring in my ears: "SysOps and Regular Users alike, shape up. Your very job in this wiki is to provide information, not to stroke your amazing egos". Hmmm, still just fun? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:31, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Yet another great reason not to do this. Ah, I'm a genius...--Lachryma^☭ 15:37, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Neh, if we continue editing like mad for days just to get our sigs everywhere, then it's not good. But the short run across the wiki we just had? We're allowed to have fun and hang lose sometimes as well. as long as we don't bother people. This is supposed to be tongue in cheek. I intend to keep it that way for myself, I'm serious enough most of the time.--Vista ⁺¹ 15:42, 8 May 2007 (BST)

I think a good rule of thumb is to keep all of the edits you do meaningful and consructive.... otherwise it really is just spam. I have to admit, I've already found some pages in the last 15min that I would have never seen. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:46, 8 May 2007 (BST)

I think that even in that run about half my edits were for constructive reasons. It's not only a wiki, it's also a community. one of the best things non-constructive I've ever done one this wiki was the start of the Piebased meme's here. sometimes it's o.k to be non-constructive.--Vista ⁺¹ 16:01, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Exactly, anyway the difference between this and stroking our egos (or at least for me) is that this is not a serious competition, but just for a bit of silly fun. Nothing to take seriously. Anyway has anyone seen what happens when people just work and don't have fun? It could happen to anyone =P - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 05:45, 9 May 2007 (GMT)}

Thumbs up but stepping down

Just to say: It's a cool idea, and I must confess that I did check every now and then how many links to my page were on the wiki, but I can't sign myself here with a clear conscience. Why? If I do sign myself, it's like I'll start to seek stupid ways to include my signature in yet another place (like Xoid, nah it's a joke =P) and the purpose of helping and good faith contributions to the wiki is yet again bent. I rather don't bend the poor thing anymore, as other users do it enough already. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:55, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Heh, thanks. Anyway you can join and just go ahead with your normal day to day opperations. Theres no need for you to go on a silly rampage signing pages that you haven't already signed. Most of the "Hey lets find a random page and sign it" should be gone within a few days, if not sooner. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 05:39, 9 May 2007 (GMT)}

Nominations Discussion

I'd like to challenge the title 'most noticeable signature', Jedaz. I honestly didn't like it much before, and wasn't it a snap-decision? I mean, I wanna nominate Vista's sig, but it's not like it's noticeable much or anything. it's blue like the rest. I like it though because it is so minimalistic wiki-wise. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 12:55, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Yes, it was a snap decision. However you can say that Vista's signature is noticeable because it's minimalistic, so it stands out because everyone else is having larger and larger signatures. If you can think of a better way to phrase it then I would like to know, however I think for now it is general enough to include any signature, although I will freely admit I'm wrong if I am. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 12:00, 18 May 2007 (GMT)}

What about my sig? Is the pic not animated and bloody enough for nomination? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:03, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Urgh, no offense, but I never really liked pic'ed sigs. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:12, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Grrr... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:19, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Maybe just "signature of the month" to make it nice and rounded, and something we can cycle regularly? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:13, 18 May 2007 (BST)

I guess so. However I still prefer most noticeable signature. I'ld like to see what other people think before changing it. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 12:20, 18 May 2007 (GMT)}

Sig of the month sounds a bit better, but I don't care what you put. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:22, 18 May 2007 (BST)

*twiddles thumbs and waits for the other sig racey participants to share their views*.....--_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:37, 18 May 2007 (BST)

I'm for sig of the month. if only for the honor of being nominated.--Vista ⁺¹ 18:29, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Well, us four are the only sig race participants who are active on this page, so I'm gonna go ahead and change it to sig of the month. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 02:39, 19 May 2007 (BST)

I'd like to add in another category...such as most sig on a specific page? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 04:41, 1 June 2007 (BST)

I'll be honest, I don't think there is any need for a category like that. How can we even find out except for manually crawling through every page anyway? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:45, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Um...may I point to Canuhearmenow's talk page? Or would whatever sig that's on it be a little....unfair? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 04:50, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Sig of Month discussion

• Lachryma^☭

  It combines the minimalistic aspect of Vista's sig with an aesthetically pleasing color and format, and the nice detail of the hammer and sickle that fits perfectly with the rest of the sig. It's always the first sig I note on anyone's talk page, and not because of it's uglyness. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 15:21, 19 May 2007 (BST)

A worthy signature for a nomination, but unfortunately, she is not a member and not in the competition.--Vista ⁺¹ 15:36, 19 May 2007 (BST)

It never said in the guidelines that it needed to be a member of the Sig Race. Nor does the nominator have to be a member either. Besides, within the sig race, I think the pool of sigs is too small. Within a month we'd run out of people to nominate. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:56, 19 May 2007 (BST)

It's ok if I can't nominate it, or she can't be nominated. I just tought that it was a worthy siggy for the award when I saw this talk page. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 21:01, 19 May 2007 (BST)

In my opinion a signature of the month should not be limited to members of the group. There are many interesting signatures which haven't joined up, but would still be good candidates. Also as Dux Ducis has said. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 10:59, 20 May 2007 (GMT)}

darn it. there goes my chance to win it big!--Vista ⁺¹ 12:28, 20 May 2007 (BST)

Most creative page gain Discussion

"Have you seen how many {{Welcomenewbie}} templates he's put on peoples pages? I think thats gotta count for something. - JedazΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 01:28, 22 May 2007 (GMT)"

He's not the only one. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 07:06, 22 May 2007 (BST)

Heh, oh sorry. I didn't realize that you did any. I only saw Matthewfarenheits because he was flooding recent changes when I was on a few days ago. If you want you can add yourself to the nominations. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 06:23, 22 May 2007 (GMT)}

Add myself? Isn't that against the spirit, nominating yourself? Nah, I wouldn't do that. You can nominate me if you want. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 07:34, 22 May 2007 (BST)

OMG, I'm here. This page makes me feel much more of an attention whore than I already am. Anyways, I think that the most creative page gain has to go to Swiers, he's being adding danger reports with his name all over them, much more creative than my traditional {{welcomenewbie}} run. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 14:44, 26 May 2007 (BST)

I went further than that. For example, as the creator of the NT Status Map, I took the liberty of putting (a short version) of my sig in a templates it uses over 100 times, where it gives instructions on how to update the maps user pages; I wanted people to contact me if the needed further help. That was good for a 100+ page gain with maybe 30 seconds extra work. The bulk of the danger page sigs are also templated in, to save typing.
I guess it was creative, but was aiming to hammer the page gain category, so I didn't want to reveal my methods earlier, lest they be imitated or disqualified. It was actually part of a legit project I started before joining the sig race; I only have maybe 80 or so danger report pages to go, so only another 100-150 sigs to gain from that project now. I doubt I'm gonna catch Xoid or MF. Maybe next month I'll go for creativity, with a low(er)-but-weird(er) page gain. --Seb_Wiers Imagine 01:40, 2 June 2007 (BST)

And here I was, thinking that increasing my page count by about 250 would be huge. Ha, I guess I was wrong. Actually I was thinking of adding my sig to a template in a similar fashion to you, Swiers. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 02:08, 2 June 2007 (BST)

It was pretty tight between you and me; if I'd been lazy last weekend, you would have had it. A lot of people didn't seem to consider this a race, but more a "stroll on the front lawn". --Seb_Wiers Imagine 03:22, 2 June 2007 (BST)

Nominations and Winnings template?

Maybe we should have those...Anyone up for the idea? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:04, 20 May 2007 (BST)

Go crazy. Personally I think there is no need. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:43, 20 May 2007 (BST)

Neh, every competition has winning templates. I'm for just an honorary mention on this page. the winners themselves may whip up a template if they're so inclined--Vista ⁺¹ 17:20, 20 May 2007 (BST)

Separated Pages

Personally, I think we should put the Nominations and the votings on a separate page (Signature Race:Nominations/Voting perhaps?), rather then on the talk page all the time. It might actually make it easier to keep track of things on this page. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 04:09, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Not a bad idea. Why don't you set it up and see how it goes? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:11, 1 June 2007 (BST)

It's the 1st already? Not for another hour here at least...but...I guess I'll set that up, if not now, then later. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 04:14, 1 June 2007 (BST)

How about...this? It's a work in progress, so add to it what you think might fit in it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 04:29, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Good point, and good solution. An archive page (Signature Race:Archive:N/V) after voting would be good as well. I'll get onto that one though in just a few minutes. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 04:23, 1 June 2007 (GMT)}

I like all of this, lets run with it! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 05:31, 1 June 2007 (BST)

I've been trying to formalise sup-page formating across the wiki (to make it easier to keep track of who pages belong to). Group sub-pages are in the format Signature Race/Nomination-Voting and then Signature Race/Nomination-Voting/Archive... mind if I move them there? -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 01:36, 2 June 2007 (BST)

Go ahead Boxy, this is a wiki after all! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 01:38, 2 June 2007 (BST)

a note about signatures

I'm all for well designed signatures, but some of them (I've noticed Vista's) insert a massive wad of code into the page, enough that it's actually hard to edit around the thing sometimes. Would it be possible for folks with such code-intensive sigs to just use templates in the normal fashion, rather than substituting them? --Seb_Wiers Imagine 13:42, 13 June 2007 (BST)

I agree. It is only one template, just don't use the lazy color template anywhere in your sig. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:54, 13 June 2007 (BST)

Oh, and you haven't noticed mine? It's usualy about 5 times longer then my posts =P Anyway there are pros and cos doing it either way. As you said substituting the signature leads to the page being harder to edit sometimes, however a templated signature is prone to "crashing" if there are too many on a page. The templated signature "crashing" is increasingly more probable these days as 1) People use more tempalated signatures these days, and 2) Talk pages can become extremely long meaning that templated signatures are more likely to crash. These are the main reasons I don't use a templated signature myself. - Jedaz

ΣT MC ΞD CT SR

13:19, 13 June 2007 (GMT)

Also templated sig makes danger reports look ugly... Although, on the other hand, one can "subst" them on there --Duke Garland_T^{LCD SSZ} 15:06, 13 June 2007 (BST)

True, having created pages that actually used enough NON-signature templates to crash, I can see how it would be a real problem with sigs. Sadly, the place where you edit the most often is talk pages. Well, its something to keep in mind. Personally, I'm going for the ultimate in minimalism. 15:38, 13 June 2007 (BST)

Heh, I keep wanting to put an unsigned template onto your comments because the '.' blends in so well =P - Jedaz

ΣT MC ΞD CT SR

03:47, 14 June 2007 (GMT)

Sigh...

Looks like after my regents and stuff are done, I'll have a lot of catching up to do... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:01, 14 June 2007 (BST)

Cool! I might join next month...

...or this month, or possibly not at all. --Anotherpongo 18:42, 15 June 2007 (BST)

"It's opposite-land! Rain falls up? Snow is hot?"

How did I manage to drop 2 pages since I joined? I swear I was at 125 on when I signed up.. armareum 04:14, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Sigs on user talk pages often do get edited away, and legitimately. _. ^. _{. swiers} 04:48, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Heh, maybe we should give you an "encouragement" award. It only goes to the users who manage to lose pages. But anyway basicaly your explanation is as Swiers has said. Such is the mystery of life. - Jedaz^{ΣT 10:09, 2 July 2007 (BST)}

I've hardly been to any talk pages. And I've voted on plenty of suggestion. Even accounting for some wastage on user talk pages, I'd have thought that I'd have gone up at least by one!! The sound of an encouragement award sounds.. encouraging. Or perhaps just special mention for June :(. 'arm^T:S 11:16, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Heh, there you go. I've added a worthy mentions section just for you. Maybe someone else will join you. Better luck next month =P - Jedaz^{ΣT 03:01, 3 July 2007 (BST)}

Lolz, that was funny --JudeMaverick ^{Talk +1 Jobs} 03:04, 3 July 2007 (BST)

"Extraordinary" - indeed. 'arm. 06:19, 4 July 2007 (BST)

OMG Matt has done the impossible

He's way past Xoid already! -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 10:22, 2 July 2007 (BST)

But a lot of those are welcome newbie templates. Xoidwasn't around for those. It's like comparing homeruns with wooden and aluminium bats. It's a whole different ballgame.-- Vista  +1  10:26, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Hmm....

...I'm thinking of a Signature of the year thing for December....You know? As in best signature for 2007, 2008, etc. But we have months to discuss about that.... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:23, 2 July 2007 (BST)

That might be interesting to think about, but then again we would have to consider all of the different variations of signatures throughout the year for it to be truely "signature of the year". It's more likely to be signature of the month, however we could always have a nominations page open throughout the year. - Jedaz^{ΣT 10:56, 3 July 2007 (BST)}

I'm thinking he's more styling it as a competition between the previous sigs of the months. A bit like the playmate thingy. I'd be game for that. (the sigs competition, not the playmate thingy. I haven't got the figure...)-- Vista  +1  11:07, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Ah, fair enough. Well thats easily doable. Just send in your photos and We'll set up a thing at the end of the year, although it would have to occur in January so we can include December. - Jedaz^{ΣT 05:33, 4 July 2007 (BST)}

Sounds cool then! I mean, the siggy stuff. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 05:57, 4 July 2007 (BST)

Vista has what I'm thinking....a vote between the previous sig of month winners for sig of year...or at least that's what I'm thinking... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:31, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Idea!?!

Who would be interested in a signature design competition? The general idea is that you have a set of criteria that must be fufilled. Eg uses the colour red. Once every 3 months people would design a signature to fit those criteria, once they have they "present" their piece of work. A panel of Judges would decide on which signature is the most astheticaly pleasing and meets the criteria. Thoughts? - Jedaz^{ΣT 10:56, 3 July 2007 (BST)}

3 months is a bit long between competitions IMO, but i'm game. It should stand alone from the regular sig of the month though.-- Vista  +1  11:09, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Well we can change it to 1 or 2 months. I'm not set on 3 months, or any time period myself. Of course it will be different to signature of the month, other then different sections the main difference will be that signatures will have to conform to certain guidelines, and the public doesn't get to vote on the competition. However that doesn't stop people from using the signature that they designed and win signature of the month =P - Jedaz^{ΣT 11:17, 3 July 2007 (BST)}

Well, i was going to redisign my sig long ago already... But i still don't really care --Duke Garland_T^{LCD SSZ} 12:14, 3 July 2007 (BST)

I on the other hand change my sig almost every day. Sort of like clothing for me. "Hey, I got a new t-shirt with a cool logo!" _. ^. _{. swiers} 13:46, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Now I actually won something with my sig, I've got no clue what to do with it, change it back because It's been done now, Keep it because people like it? Chance it to something new just for the bleep of it?-- Vista  +1  15:23, 3 July 2007 (BST)

June awards

Huh, just noticed I got "most creative page gain" for June. I assume that was for my OVERALL page gain (done mostly in May)- thanks! When was the voting done, and is there a record? _. ^. _{. swiers} 15:51, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Nope you've been edged out by that by Goebi. You won overall page gain in may. Signature_Race#Awards This one is purely about how you gained pages. Last month I was nominated for a single specific one page.-- Vista  +1  16:49, 3 July 2007 (BST)

See here for the race.-- Vista  +1  16:51, 3 July 2007 (BST)

I knew Goebi had beat my overall page gain. I meant the award was likely more due to my overall effort than specific efforts in June. _. ^. _{. swiers} 17:25, 3 July 2007 (BST)

July

Is there any competition for sigs this month? -- goebi oo ooooooo 14:37, 18 July 2007 (BST)

Yep, sorry it took so long to start proceedings. - If Jedaz = 01:46, 19 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

Top 50

Top 50 Graph

You should update it coz it has changed a lot, not because I want to be on the top. Not at all. Really. Yeah. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 02:37, 20 July 2007 (BST)

I agree. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 07:58, 20 July 2007 (BST)

go ahead --Duke Garland_T^{LCD SSZ} 08:39, 20 July 2007 (BST)

*sits up in surprise* I'm number 6?.... wow. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 00:34, 29 July 2007 (BST)

And me 13th? Wow, holy vault number! --Duke Garland_T^{LCD SSZ} 10:59, 29 July 2007 (BST)

I made probably the most pointless graph. It could be displayed like using: [[Image:Top_50_graph.png|right|thumb|Top 50 Graph]] ? 'arm. 02:52, 29 July 2007 (BST)

I'ld have to agree that it's probably pointless, mainly because people overtake each other, so the X axis isn't constant. But it's interesting to see that it's an exponential curve. I would have thought that it'ld be more liner then anything else. I'll put you in charge of being the graph guy ok? =P - If Jedaz = 09:14, 29 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

Well, it's just the number of sigs in each position (1st got xx, 2nd got xx, etc), rather than attributed to the same person each time. It mostly is straight, but with Xoid and Matt pushing the top end out. I suppose I could regress it to see what formula came out, to see how close to exponential it really it. I though about having a few pie charts too: proportion of top 10 to rest; proportion of sysops sigs out of top 50, stuff like that. 'arm. 13:13, 29 July 2007 (BST)

I'd expect the "link mass" for individuals to be distributed in the same manner as the physical mass of asteroids, or the size of fluctuations in stock prices. That is, small quantities are more common in direct proportion to their size. Consider this:

1. Tally up how many pages have 1 link, 2 links, 3 links, etc, and call that value T_l.
2. Each page has M links to it. Consider the page that has the greatest number of links to have M_ax links.
3. Plot each page as a point, with the Y axis value being 1/T_l, and the X axis value being M/M_ax.

What shape do you think the curve would be? I'm betting the points would cluster around a straight line from 0,0 to 1,1. And actually, this is probably a do-able experiment. You don't even need to restrict it to USER pages; this likely holds true for the set of all pages on this wiki, or even all pages on the internet. __Swiers___ 16:18, 29 July 2007 (BST)

Nominations

There doesn't seem to be any nominees...what do we do about this? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:26, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Can I nominate Vista again? His is still my favourite. I'd nominate Hagnat, but he hasn't yet voted on a suggestion putting "First Vote". 'arm. 21:34, 27 July 2007 (BST)

A little late...seeing nominations ended 3 days ago... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:08, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Oh yeah, sorry. Didn't pay attention there. 'arm. 00:29, 28 July 2007 (BST)

All it means is that there isn't going to be a signature of the month, or most creative page gain. No biggie - If Jedaz = 04:43, 28 July 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

August 1st numbers

I just did a count of the number of link for the participants of this race:

• User:Armareum ‎(322 links) +199
• User:Axe Hack ‎(594 links) +63
• User:Boxy ‎(758 links) +104
• User:Duke Garland ‎(553 links) +180
• User:Dux Ducis ‎(692 links) +121
• User:Goebi ‎(666 links) +132
• User:Jedaz ‎(530 links) +12
• User:JudeMaverick ‎(171 links) +30
• User:Labine50 ‎(475 links) +13
• User:Swiers ‎(917 links) +53
• User:The Surgeon General ‎(152 links) +12
• User:Vista ‎(783 links) +98
• User:V2Blast ‎(77 links) +2

I'll put in the differences in a few minutes. 'arm. 06:23, 1 August 2007 (BST)

Ah cool. Thanks for that. - If Jedaz = 06:26, 1 August 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

I almost forgot, I just added the judging section to the design competition, so if you could fill out your part then that would be great =) I need to do it myself, but I'm going to do that when I feel more awake. - If Jedaz = 06:28, 1 August 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

Hey, I think I win! Woot! 'arm. 06:31, 1 August 2007 (BST)

Nice job, it's an improvement from last month =P I'll update the page... - If Jedaz = 06:38, 1 August 2007 (BST) then pi = 3

Last month confused me, but I think I've vindicated myself fully this month. 'arm. 06:41, 1 August 2007 (BST)

A new award...

...such as most advertising signature race sig? Just a thought. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 16:34, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Winner is the person who gets the most people to join? Each new member has to say which sig inspired them to join? 'arm. 16:43, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Nah. I was thinking of the most effective way to get more people to join the signature race by the means of our sigs. Something like the catchiest pharse or something... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 16:55, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Why should we advertise the race with our sigs at the first place? --~~~~_T^{` `} 17:04, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Well...the idea for this came from Vista's +1 sig...And it might be interesting to advertise the sig race...in an attempt to see if we can score new members. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 17:08, 3 August 2007 (BST)

If your catchphrase / ad is good and your put it around a lot, you'll win the "sig of the month" vote eventually, so there is no need. If an ad isn't good enough to be "best sig", its not that good.
However, if we all had a link to the sig race in our sig, I bet that page would quite rapidly become the "most linked to page". And THAT would be kind of cool, because it would be the entire group / page competing against every other group / page on the wiki. So, I'm gonna do it. _Δ^Δ_{Δ  Swiers}  17:13, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Sig Race vs. Wiki

Oddly enough, I have a feeling me and Vista are the only ones helping the Signature Race move along on the most linked to page. Unless someone besides us 2 have the sig race as a link in their sig... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:12, 5 August 2007 (BST)

I have it my sig. I also used a steaalth version of the same sneaky trick that won me the race the first month to bump the page by about 250 links in just 2 edits. I could easily use the same trick to add another 4,500 or so, but it technically would be vandalism, even though the results are invisible... _Δ^Δ_Δ Swiers  15:26, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Quit being a Splinter Cell...You Sam Fisher person, you. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:33, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Something like [[Example Page| ]] on widely used templates? --~~~~_T^''' 16:03, 5 August 2007 (BST)

_{Nope, like this, only not as a header.}

Hit the "edit" link to see the trick. And yeah, the idea would be to use invisible template spam.
As you can see, the text just simply is not there, but the link is. I actually find this quite useful for creating editing sections. And I only did it on templates that I am the author (and the only user) of.
I'm no Splinter Cell. But there is this one bar, where they have this club... _Δ^Δ_Δ Swiers  17:15, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Sorry, but for me the text is there... it's some browser feature with displaying smallest font - i already faced it on other sites - there's just some threshold and fonts cannot be displayed smaller. On the other hand, i've now revealed my idea of "hidden link"... :/ --~~~~_T^''' 22:15, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Hows that now? And doesn't your "hidden link" produce an underline (or other link effect, depending on browser) for that blank space? That's not really much different from my old "stealth sig", which was just a period made as a link to my user page. People thought I was accidentally entering a timestamp.  ;-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Swiers (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

White is quite obvious but still a genius in it's simplicity idea. Hm... an underline? No underline displayed in my browser... --~~~~_T^''' 22:27, 5 August 2007 (BST)

I use background-matching a lot for table padding, and now I'll know to use it to hide headers text as well. It doesn't work for links though, for obvious reasons. _Δ^Δ_Δ Swiers  22:33, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Seb, check how my message looks in edit... i assume it doesn't show up in your browser either --~~~~_T^''' 22:39, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Ahha! No, its quite invisible indeed. Blends in when editing to. Downrignt insidious, that is. Now if only we could harness its powers for good, instead of evil. Or at least good instead of silly. :P _Δ^Δ_Δ Swiers  23:13, 5 August 2007 (BST)

As some hypothetic villain would say, is there really a difference betwean good and silly? I wonder what will sysops do to me if i'll sneak it in location block template... --~~~~_T^''' 10:05, 6 August 2007 (BST)

Yes, Duke. .- -. -.. - .... .- - .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. -... .? (Translate this with this. It's morse code...so...) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:26, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Axe, if you reallly think i don't know what is morse code... Anyway, here's a better link --~~~~_T^''' 22:30, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Eh. I'm lazy to put in that slash. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:33, 5 August 2007 (BST) And I knew of that site. I just gave you the other so it doesn't ruin the fun of watching you search up what I wrote. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:35, 5 August 2007 (BST)

sorry, but it barely took few seconds :P --~~~~_T^''' 22:39, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Gr........ --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:43, 5 August 2007 (BST)

I also am linking the page in my sig. Only I don't use a template so it isn't a retroactive application of linking (not that I've signed many pages that others haven't). 'arm. 02:36, 6 August 2007 (BST)

If this keeps up, I estimate that it will only be about a week before the Signature Race is number 1 on the most linked to page. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 11:08, 6 August 2007 (BST)

I also uses the SUBST call, so my alterations was not retrocative. I should probably change that; I've had some ulgly sigs I wish were not still around, and might like to aviod that in the future. _Δ^Δ_Δ Swiers  15:26, 6 August 2007 (BST)

*Clap Clap Clap Clap* Only about another 300 links to go before the Sig Race takes down Matt! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:21, 11 August 2007 (BST) And now it's been linked in my sig as well (though not quite as creatively, although I did think about a way). --V2Blast ^{T•P!•C•SR} 01:56, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Taking over

I think I'm gonna do you guys a BIG favor, altough this may make me look worst on my detractors eyes. Well, sue me! --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 03:01, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Now check my sig, and your link count for that matter. Sorry Vista but I couldn't think of a better way to include the link on my sig, I copied you but it's because you rock! --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 03:09, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Looks like, after waiting for a while for the wiki to process it, my lil' contribution has almost doubled the link count for the siggy race. Hurray! Also, I wasn't aware until just now that you were making it compete against ME! When I first saw it I couldn't believe it, it was hilarious! Tell me if you think that the competition against me must take priority and then I'll vanish the link out of my sig. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 04:55, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Wow, nice =) It's alright to keep it there. I think that we should make it this groups goal to get the number 1 spot for most linked to pages. It'll be insane if we can get over 10,000 links (because thats roughly how many will probably link to the Locationblock Template in the end) - If Jedaz = 08:56, 20 August 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1

Ah, ok... I performed my insidious plan. Let's give the counting few minutes to update and check again --~~~~_T^''' 09:07, 20 August 2007 (BST)

To be honest I can't approve of that. I suggest you revert it before someone calls you for vandalism (trust me, they will). Sure you can't see the links, but if people are allowed to do it then every template would be full of useless group spam so the groups can get the most linked to pages. We'll get those numbers the hard way, by signing a heap of pages. Not by modifying a template which has nothing to do with our group. - If Jedaz = 09:19, 20 August 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1

You're right with creating a precedent. Well. At least i've seen it bounce to the 2nd place with 4.3K links for a while... Reverted. --~~~~_T^''' 09:29, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Am I reading this correctly? Matt signed up for the race??? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:40, 24 August 2007 (BST)

hiatus

From the 20th When Sig Race was on 13th place in Most linked it's now... still there! Looks like it came into zone where other "featured" articles are (featured in other people's sigs). So to get over them we need not only to sign more, but be sure we don't have these " competitive" links in our sigs and sign more than people who have them there do... --~~~~ [Talk] 22:24, 1 September 2007 (BST)

Oh trust me...the only competitive links I noticed...are links to our user page. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:17, 3 September 2007 (BST)

From 20th of August till right now Signature Race boosted with 210 links, Project Mentor with 110. Category:Current Suggestions with 163. Yeah, we're catching up, but quite slowly --~~~~ [Talk] 15:26, 3 September 2007 (BST)

Well thats always a good thing. We only need 80ish more links to take over project mentor. It's kind of funny that we have more links to this page then we do page visits. - If Jedaz = 15:30, 3 September 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1

Hmm...it would be fun to get the SR to the #1 spot...Move over, folks! I got newbie contribs to go through! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:21, 7 September 2007 (BST)

Holy smokes! The Sig Race has overtaken Project Mentor! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:20, 13 September 2007 (BST)

And I helped! I feel so proud of myself.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:26, 13 September 2007 (BST)

You trickster...I thought your name was 1 link...now I see... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:28, 13 September 2007 (BST)

:D. I would have had it in there sooner, but it slipped my mind. For three months.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:29, 13 September 2007 (BST)

As soon as nominations starts up, I'm nominating you. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:31, 13 September 2007 (BST)

Wow. Makes me feel all...Special and stuffs.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:35, 13 September 2007 (BST)

Archiving

By the looks of it, this page just grows longer by the minute...I vote that we archive this page...soon. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:26, 14 September 2007 (BST)

I'll do it, but should I put it all in one big archive, or what?-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:41, 15 September 2007 (BST)

One big one. Nothing fancy. Just a level 1 header at the top with the year. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 12:20, 17 September 2007 (BST)

Alright, I'll do it tomorrow. I'm really going to sleep this time, so good night.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:13, 19 September 2007 (BST)