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I would like to advise the community that The Big Prick is seeking a new leader, and anybody from the general population can be nominated.  Would that be appropriate here or not?  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 17:58, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I would like to advise the community that The Big Prick is seeking a new leader, and anybody from the general population can be nominated.  Would that be appropriate here or not?  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 17:58, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
:Looking how little we have happening in this space these days, I don't see why not. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
::Took the entry out...  Ran for 6 weeks and got 0 applications.  I guess it is time to let the group go inactive for a bit.  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
== Project Timeline ==
Why isn't [[UDWiki:Project Timeline]] on this list? --{{User:Klexur/Signature}} 00:17, 6 October 2012 (BST)
:It got purged along with other inactive projects. I'd like to see it put back on and brought back to life but then again I'm biased. I was the last to update it and that was weeks ago. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::Yeah, I cleaned out the list of inactive projects, and Project Timeline was one of them. You guys are welcome to re-add it if you'll be active, however. I was just doing some housekeeping. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:12, 6 October 2012 (BST)
:::The project has entered the fact finding and documenting stage, which is admittedly takes the most work. I'll start bugging people about it on IRC again and see if I can't drum up more editors. See [[UDWiki:Project Timeline/Zombie Timeline]] for the latest work being done. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
== Order 66? ==
''Players are encouraged to join the Sith of November in punishing the traitorous 5th of November survivors.''
I consider that advertising, and removed just that part... {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 20:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:Advertising for events is [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Community_Projects&diff=prev&oldid=1997004 perfectly fine]. Advertising for groups is what is not allowed. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::I'd like to point out that you're targetting a specific group of people, which creates another group in itself... {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::EDIT: Your modifications made it a bit more POV, disregard the above. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I removed "catastrophic" since I thought it was (though accurate :P) a bit of a charged word, and I rephrased the traitorous accusations as beliefs, rather than statements of fact. As for groups, I get what you mean, but that logic cuts both ways, since you could argue that virtually ''any'' event or cause listed here is for a group of people who want to pursue that cause or join in on that event. And we've never had issues with that in the past, even ones aimed at other groups. In fact, one of the very first events in this page's history was for an [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Community_Projects&diff=1759693&oldid=1759655 "Anti-Big Bash" event in Ridleybank], ironically. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::::What Aichon said. Community Projects are generally about events pushed forward by groups, which in turn are more in favour of a particular play-style than another and often aimed against the goals of other groups. Truly neutral events like the Malton Beauty Pageant are extremely rare. Just let it slide. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 21:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::It was just the very negative connotation in his first wording that I found a bit unfit for the section :) I also never said that it should be completely removed; Order 66 is a great event with an awesome theme and a well-founded cause ^^ {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::Quit brown nosing. Nobody likes a suck up. :3 --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Plus, I didn't write the original thing that was posted here. Vapor did. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Johnny, now is the time.  I started as a survivor too.  I bought my first combat skill immediately before joining a PKer group.  Kirsty's first kill of any kind was a survivor.  Why?  Because I couldn't stand how stupid survivors were.  Defect, you seem smarter than those "survivors."  I bet you would fit in much better with PKers. And what better way to switch than hunting down your old friends? --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 22:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::I can see how the final bit might be an issue. I'd swap "Players are encouraged to participate in punishing the 5th of November survivors." for "Players are encouraged to join the fun." --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  22:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah, I considered something even more neutral like that, but the problem is that if we don't have the thing about punishing them in there, then there is no statement of purpose at all. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::[http://philosopheknights.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2015 Like this?] {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 22:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Whoa. I would've just advocated using an alt, rather than switching sides, but kudos to you for having the guts to do what you're doing. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:53, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::Other than maintaining a full zed and a full survivor, I don't like alts in most games. They blur the identity factor too much ;) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 22:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually have no issue with how it was written. It's tongue in cheek and is in line with the roleplaying of the page they are advertising (which any reader would find out in 30 seconds after clicking on it) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 23:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
POV statements have never been disallowed from CP and there is no guideline stating things should be NPOV (that would be bad). Perhaps ours was a little over-the-top (though you should have seen the suggestuons I got in IRC last night). This isn't all too important to us, though so I'll allow some less over-the-top yet still POV statement and just be on my way. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>23:52, 8 November 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:It's roleplaying. It's barely offensive and is completely in-line with the event. I really have no issues with how it's written. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
== Ideas From JC ==
Don't really know how active the community as a whole still is, but it would be cool to try and get some in game action. Maybe if we could get a game of "tag" going, We make some teams and get everyone playing. My idea for the game is to drop an opponent's health to 1 and if possible fire a flare outside the building for zeds to get some snacking. It would be interesting to see more interactivity. Another idea is to elect a mayor of Malton. We would just get everyone who wanted to to cast in-game votes. We would have to try and organize it on the forums, but it was something that I always thought was a good idea. {{unsigned|JoshCz|21:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)}}
:We've had mayoral elections in the past. They're...not as much fun as you might think. They always devolve into pissing contests. As for organizing events, the typical way to do it isn't to post on a page like this one (this page is really just intended to be used to talk about the process of re-evaluations for sysops), but to instead either create a page for an event and then invite specific people/groups to come to it (but don't spam out invites...we don't take kindly to spammy people), or else to organize it off the wiki entirely by talking directly with the active groups on their forums. A number of groups are still active and will receive ambassadors from groups who are interested in coordinating with them. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
::To be more specific, we have the currently badly unused [[Template:Community Projects|Community Projects]] for advertisment. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:00, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
I think if it actually mattered to the game we could create a structure around who we elect. We could base it on who writes the best speeches. We start with the primaries, where anyone can run either under "the game purists", people who want to preserve the sanctity of the game, or "the game changers", a group that wants to change stuff. It would be interesting to get an in-game leader of everyone who could go around and get the opinions of all UD gamers. This election would actually matter because whoever we elect would be the in-game voice of everyone in their respective party. Maybe (and I would definitely be a member of the game changer party) the elected mayor could broadcast on all frequencies at the same time, and when in a room of large people he could speak to everyone.[[User:JoshCz|JoshCz]] ([[User talk:JoshCz|talk]])
:The mayor of Malton was actually a joke post that was forgotten about within 2 weeks after election. And that was when there still was a strong metagame. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
::Says you. It was a massive kerfuffle in some circles, what with The Prophet himself—jorm—losing out to whoever it was that ended up winning (with Revenant as the real power behind the scenes, of course).
::Anyway, in terms of being able to broadcast on all frequencies and whatnot, you're talking about [[suggestions]] for changing the game. We have a few pages dedicated to suggestions, and Kevan has in the past occasionally added some of them to the game. In general though, don't count on any changes being made at this point. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:01, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 03:01, 3 April 2015

Please place any queries, suggestions or discussion on the template here. --

08:49, 14 August 2010 (BST)

Since these are no longer just "Community Projects", they include events or just updates, should we change the name to something more fitting? Maybe Community Updates? Will do the necessary moving, relinking, if so. -- LEMON #1 07:48, 30 August 2010 (BST)

Yep, I'd say so. Aichon 02:50, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Question

The guideline page indicates that community projects may be posted here. I have such a project HERE that is designed to benifit the comunity. In past though, I have gotten myself in trouble for posting things that tie too directly to a group on wiki pages designed to be neutral. This tool can be used by anyone and is more helpful to all the more it is used. However, it was created by and linked to a group that I am in. Would it be against the guidelines to post it here? If so, what alterations can be made to the page or the location of the page to remove this objection?--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  04:19, 15 May 2011 (BST)

Omnimapis, I think, an already existing version of what you're going for. Don't remember if it's bot only though. Might have to make you a code for the SIM it's been a while since I've added anyone but I could see taking a few minutes to figure out again if there's interest. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:50, 15 May 2011 (BST)
I'd go ahead and add it, NecroWatch was found to be fine and I'm pretty sure I added that one myself (and CP isn't all that active anyway). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:37, 15 May 2011 (BST)
Will do. If someone takes it down, they take it down.--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  20:43, 15 May 2011 (BST)

Question from The Big Prick

I would like to advise the community that The Big Prick is seeking a new leader, and anybody from the general population can be nominated. Would that be appropriate here or not? Asheets 17:58, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Looking how little we have happening in this space these days, I don't see why not. -- Spiderzed 18:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Took the entry out... Ran for 6 weeks and got 0 applications. I guess it is time to let the group go inactive for a bit. Asheets 16:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Project Timeline

Why isn't UDWiki:Project Timeline on this list? --Klexur 00:17, 6 October 2012 (BST)

It got purged along with other inactive projects. I'd like to see it put back on and brought back to life but then again I'm biased. I was the last to update it and that was weeks ago. ~Vsig.png 01:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I cleaned out the list of inactive projects, and Project Timeline was one of them. You guys are welcome to re-add it if you'll be active, however. I was just doing some housekeeping. Aichon 08:12, 6 October 2012 (BST)
The project has entered the fact finding and documenting stage, which is admittedly takes the most work. I'll start bugging people about it on IRC again and see if I can't drum up more editors. See UDWiki:Project Timeline/Zombie Timeline for the latest work being done. ~Vsig.png 17:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Order 66?

Players are encouraged to join the Sith of November in punishing the traitorous 5th of November survivors.

I consider that advertising, and removed just that part... PB&J 20:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Advertising for events is perfectly fine. Advertising for groups is what is not allowed. Aichon 20:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that you're targetting a specific group of people, which creates another group in itself... PB&J 21:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: Your modifications made it a bit more POV, disregard the above. PB&J 21:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I removed "catastrophic" since I thought it was (though accurate :P) a bit of a charged word, and I rephrased the traitorous accusations as beliefs, rather than statements of fact. As for groups, I get what you mean, but that logic cuts both ways, since you could argue that virtually any event or cause listed here is for a group of people who want to pursue that cause or join in on that event. And we've never had issues with that in the past, even ones aimed at other groups. In fact, one of the very first events in this page's history was for an "Anti-Big Bash" event in Ridleybank, ironically. ;) Aichon 21:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
What Aichon said. Community Projects are generally about events pushed forward by groups, which in turn are more in favour of a particular play-style than another and often aimed against the goals of other groups. Truly neutral events like the Malton Beauty Pageant are extremely rare. Just let it slide. -- Spiderzed 21:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
It was just the very negative connotation in his first wording that I found a bit unfit for the section :) I also never said that it should be completely removed; Order 66 is a great event with an awesome theme and a well-founded cause ^^ PB&J 21:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Quit brown nosing. Nobody likes a suck up. :3 --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Plus, I didn't write the original thing that was posted here. Vapor did. :P Aichon 21:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Johnny, now is the time. I started as a survivor too. I bought my first combat skill immediately before joining a PKer group. Kirsty's first kill of any kind was a survivor. Why? Because I couldn't stand how stupid survivors were. Defect, you seem smarter than those "survivors." I bet you would fit in much better with PKers. And what better way to switch than hunting down your old friends? --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 22:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
I can see how the final bit might be an issue. I'd swap "Players are encouraged to participate in punishing the 5th of November survivors." for "Players are encouraged to join the fun." --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 22:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I considered something even more neutral like that, but the problem is that if we don't have the thing about punishing them in there, then there is no statement of purpose at all. Aichon 22:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Like this? PB&J 22:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Whoa. I would've just advocated using an alt, rather than switching sides, but kudos to you for having the guts to do what you're doing. Aichon 22:53, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Other than maintaining a full zed and a full survivor, I don't like alts in most games. They blur the identity factor too much ;) PB&J 22:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
I actually have no issue with how it was written. It's tongue in cheek and is in line with the roleplaying of the page they are advertising (which any reader would find out in 30 seconds after clicking on it) A ZOMBIE ANT 23:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

POV statements have never been disallowed from CP and there is no guideline stating things should be NPOV (that would be bad). Perhaps ours was a little over-the-top (though you should have seen the suggestuons I got in IRC last night). This isn't all too important to us, though so I'll allow some less over-the-top yet still POV statement and just be on my way. ~Vsig.png 23:52, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

It's roleplaying. It's barely offensive and is completely in-line with the event. I really have no issues with how it's written. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


Ideas From JC

Don't really know how active the community as a whole still is, but it would be cool to try and get some in game action. Maybe if we could get a game of "tag" going, We make some teams and get everyone playing. My idea for the game is to drop an opponent's health to 1 and if possible fire a flare outside the building for zeds to get some snacking. It would be interesting to see more interactivity. Another idea is to elect a mayor of Malton. We would just get everyone who wanted to to cast in-game votes. We would have to try and organize it on the forums, but it was something that I always thought was a good idea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JoshCz (talkcontribs) 21:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC).

We've had mayoral elections in the past. They're...not as much fun as you might think. They always devolve into pissing contests. As for organizing events, the typical way to do it isn't to post on a page like this one (this page is really just intended to be used to talk about the process of re-evaluations for sysops), but to instead either create a page for an event and then invite specific people/groups to come to it (but don't spam out invites...we don't take kindly to spammy people), or else to organize it off the wiki entirely by talking directly with the active groups on their forums. A number of groups are still active and will receive ambassadors from groups who are interested in coordinating with them. Aichon 22:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
To be more specific, we have the currently badly unused Community Projects for advertisment. -- Spiderzed 23:00, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I think if it actually mattered to the game we could create a structure around who we elect. We could base it on who writes the best speeches. We start with the primaries, where anyone can run either under "the game purists", people who want to preserve the sanctity of the game, or "the game changers", a group that wants to change stuff. It would be interesting to get an in-game leader of everyone who could go around and get the opinions of all UD gamers. This election would actually matter because whoever we elect would be the in-game voice of everyone in their respective party. Maybe (and I would definitely be a member of the game changer party) the elected mayor could broadcast on all frequencies at the same time, and when in a room of large people he could speak to everyone.JoshCz (talk)

The mayor of Malton was actually a joke post that was forgotten about within 2 weeks after election. And that was when there still was a strong metagame. -- Spiderzed 22:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Says you. It was a massive kerfuffle in some circles, what with The Prophet himself—jorm—losing out to whoever it was that ended up winning (with Revenant as the real power behind the scenes, of course).
Anyway, in terms of being able to broadcast on all frequencies and whatnot, you're talking about suggestions for changing the game. We have a few pages dedicated to suggestions, and Kevan has in the past occasionally added some of them to the game. In general though, don't count on any changes being made at this point. Aichon 03:01, 3 April 2015 (UTC)