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::::Quit your whining, and quit trying to play the victim. No one buys it. ''You'' started this problem, and you escalated it. Time and time again, repeatedly. By refusing to refusing to allow groups them to edit themselves from a public, community page they wanted nothing to do with. ''You'' are the one who caused the friction and drama: this is fallout from a situation you started, fomented and perpetuated. You know it. I know it. ''Everyone'' else knows it.  
::::Quit your whining, and quit trying to play the victim. No one buys it. ''You'' started this problem, and you escalated it. Time and time again, repeatedly. By refusing to refusing to allow groups them to edit themselves from a public, community page they wanted nothing to do with. ''You'' are the one who caused the friction and drama: this is fallout from a situation you started, fomented and perpetuated. You know it. I know it. ''Everyone'' else knows it.  
::::But anyway... We apologise for this interruption, and return you now to your regularly scheduled programming: Zeug's usual arguments ad hominen, facile dissemblings and assorted "other general whinging". --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 08:36, 1 October 2008 (BST)
::::But anyway... We apologise for this interruption, and return you now to your regularly scheduled programming: Zeug's usual arguments ad hominen, facile dissemblings and assorted "other general whinging". --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 08:36, 1 October 2008 (BST)
:::::Shhhh ... it's OK wan. I'm sure everybody understands your pain and we're all here for you buddy. And don't worry, even with [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:Zeug|4 v/b's]], [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions#UZM|2 deletions]] and [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Jorm_and_the_MOB_versus_Zeug_and_Extinction|an arbi case]] called against me over the last few days I can assure you I feel in no way victimized. Quite the opposite, I love the wiki process and I love UD and its social network. And with this case maybe we can put a brake on meatpuppet attacks in the deletions vote.--[[User:Zeug|Zeug]] 12:40, 1 October 2008 (BST)
:::::Shhhh ... it's OK wan. I'm sure everybody understands your pain and we're all here for you buddy. And don't worry, even with [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:Zeug|4 v/b's]], [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions#UZM|2 deletions]] and [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Jorm_and_the_MOB_versus_Zeug_and_Extinction|an arbi case]] called against me over the last few days I can assure you I feel in no way victimized. Quite the opposite, I love the wiki process and I love UD and its social network. And with this case maybe we can put a brake on [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Grim_s&oldid=1278129#Iscariot meatpuppet attacks in the deletions vote].--[[User:Zeug|Zeug]] 12:40, 1 October 2008 (BST)
I'll arbitrate, but you should know that arbitration has a long history of ordering [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/The_Fifth_Horseman_vs_Akule|deletions]], and frankly, if a decent, impartial arbitrator orders it (as seems to have happened in this case), it is a better system than internet democracy because the decision is made by someone who has all the relevant facts, as presented by the parties involved <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:23 1 October 2008 (BST)</small>
I'll arbitrate, but you should know that arbitration has a long history of ordering [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/The_Fifth_Horseman_vs_Akule|deletions]], and frankly, if a decent, impartial arbitrator orders it (as seems to have happened in this case), it is a better system than internet democracy because the decision is made by someone who has all the relevant facts, as presented by the parties involved <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:23 1 October 2008 (BST)</small>



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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.

Guidelines for Arbitration Requests

In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.

Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:

  • The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
  • The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
  • Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.

Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.

After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.

Current Arbitrators

For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.

The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}

Also note that not all listed Arbitrators are active on the Wiki.

Available Arbitrators in Alphabetical Order

Arbitration Cases Currently Under Consideration

Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive vs. Umbrella

This case is presented because The Umbrella Corporation is angry that I, of all people, took the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive commander's offer, and took leadership of the group. I am requesting that the page "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service," Be the page for my group "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive," as they only took that page because I took control. Any collaboration needed, just ask.Proof 1, 2, 3. Anymore proof needed, just feel free to ask. --/\Haliman/\ T | P! | W! 23:22, 30 September 2008 (BST)

This case looks fun. I'll arby it! :D -- Cheese 23:44, 30 September 2008 (BST)
So what now? I am new to this... --/\Haliman/\ T | P! | W! 23:59, 30 September 2008 (BST)
You need a representative from the other party to accept me (or another arbitrator) before it can start. -- Cheese 00:01, 1 October 2008 (BST)
Just tell em'? Seems easy enough.... Contacted. --/\Haliman/\ T | P! | W! 00:40, 1 October 2008 (BST)

St. Iscariot vs. Cheese

This is a case over the ruling in the Jorm/Zeug case. Cheese has exceeded his remit as arbitrator in this case by ordering the circumvention of established wiki procedure.

I wish to have sections of his ruling stricken and declared unenforceable.

I will accept any arbitrator who has shown an understanding for following established wiki policy and procedure in their edit history. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:15, 30 September 2008 (BST)

I can has arby? --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:38, 30 September 2008 (BST)

I accept Bob. He has long shown that he follows wiki policy and procedure to the letter. -- Cheese 23:39, 30 September 2008 (BST)
My indiscretions are by choice, not by lack of knowledge. You'll also note that I was more than courteous and impartial in my previous case. I take being an arbitrator seriously. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 00:31, 1 October 2008 (BST)

Seriously though, I think this case is one of the most moronic that has ever been brought. Iscariot basically wants my ruling stricken so that a deleted page can be restored just to be deleted again next week. This is stupid and a waste of time on everyone's part. I refuse to play any part in this. -- Cheese 00:16, 1 October 2008 (BST)

Then the arby ruling will happen without any input from you whatsoever. And if he finds an arbitrator sympathetic to his side, he'll get what he wants, thus just wasting more time when the page gets re-deleted. If he's serious, go along, or find representation. You should know all of this. Save others time by sacrificing a little to go with the case.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:28, 1 October 2008 (BST)
Fine. I still think this is moronic. But SA has a point. I will represent myself. Arbitrators who want in, please leave a note. -- Cheese 00:31, 1 October 2008 (BST)
Actually it's probably a good chance to clarify established wiki procedure and underline where Arbitration fits on this wiki. If deletions can be forced through by 'popular' vote (ie meatpuppets) without recourse to arbitration then it's anarchy, a good example is wan's direct recourse to deletion twice now with both the original UZM and its redirect. As it is the deletions vote is an easy bad faith way of not bothering with arbitration. As for your ruling being 'unenforceable' ... well it came to the same conclusion as wan's delete request, Iscariot's vote and upheld jorm's request for deletion! It doesn't override or circumvent but rather concurs. It would be enforceable after the vote cos even if the Keep's won the day I would have requested speedy deletion as per your ruling. Finally, as original author I changed my vote to speedy delete and isn't that justification in itself for speedy deletion (criteria #7 Author Edit Only)? Isn't there a procedure to deal with litigious members on this wiki? They're generally a huge waste of time otherwise. --Zeug 07:42, 1 October 2008 (BST)
Quit your whining, and quit trying to play the victim. No one buys it. You started this problem, and you escalated it. Time and time again, repeatedly. By refusing to refusing to allow groups them to edit themselves from a public, community page they wanted nothing to do with. You are the one who caused the friction and drama: this is fallout from a situation you started, fomented and perpetuated. You know it. I know it. Everyone else knows it.
But anyway... We apologise for this interruption, and return you now to your regularly scheduled programming: Zeug's usual arguments ad hominen, facile dissemblings and assorted "other general whinging". --WanYao 08:36, 1 October 2008 (BST)
Shhhh ... it's OK wan. I'm sure everybody understands your pain and we're all here for you buddy. And don't worry, even with 4 v/b's, 2 deletions and an arbi case called against me over the last few days I can assure you I feel in no way victimized. Quite the opposite, I love the wiki process and I love UD and its social network. And with this case maybe we can put a brake on meatpuppet attacks in the deletions vote.--Zeug 12:40, 1 October 2008 (BST)

I'll arbitrate, but you should know that arbitration has a long history of ordering deletions, and frankly, if a decent, impartial arbitrator orders it (as seems to have happened in this case), it is a better system than internet democracy because the decision is made by someone who has all the relevant facts, as presented by the parties involved -- boxy talki 10:23 1 October 2008 (BST)

WanYao vs. White Cell Team 06

This is pretty simple. White Cell Team 06 is listed in at least thirty-six (36) different suburbs (the proof) At one point, this group also had a large number of "broken" links on many suburb pages -- which I don't know if they've been fixed, and I have not checked yet. Meaning the number could be highter than 36. Also, last I checked, this group is not even listed on the Stats page (i.e. less than 10 members)! Yet they claim to be in at least 36 different suburbs?

I've already asked the group to fix this, via their Talk page. My request was brushed off, and no action has been taken.

I want this group to pick a reasonable number of suburbs (like 1-2, 3 or 4 at very outside) to list themselves in. Or, if they are a mobile group with no home base? Well... then... like many other mobile groups with no home base, they aren't listed anywhere... --WanYao 06:31, 27 September 2008 (BST)

Just remove them, i doubt they'll notice.--xoxo 06:36, 27 September 2008 (BST)
Thought about it... it might be easier to do that... But, they have a right to be listed... somewhere... We just need to figure out where the heck that is... And they don't seem to want to cooperate... at least, so far, that's been the case. Hmmmmmmnnn... --WanYao 07:08, 27 September 2008 (BST)
Under 10 members, i think 4 suburbs is very generous. Just delete them all and leave a talk page note saying that can restore up to 4 burbs of their choice. Fuck i'm starting to think maybe we should just remove those lists...--xoxo 07:11, 27 September 2008 (BST)
That's what I'm doing... 36 unbroken links found... one broken link found... Wanna help find their broken links, J3D? And gimme a count of how many you deleted, to back up this case if it needs to be re-opened. --WanYao 07:22, 27 September 2008 (BST)

WITHDRAWN -- I have simply removed all occurrances I could find (37 so far) of the group in the listings. And left a message on their talk page asking them (again) to re-list themselves in suburbs where they actually are operating. Hopefully, this will work itself out... but, if it doesn't, I shall re-open or re-submit this case. Thanks. --WanYao 07:34, 27 September 2008 (BST)


Administration Notice
Use this header to create new arbitration cases. Once all sides have chosen an arbiter, move the case to a sub-page of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration and update its status in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.



There are currently no cases under consideration

Arbitration Cases in Progress

Iscariot and The Order of Philosophe Knights versus Sarah Aline and The Upper Left Corner

Involved Users Iscariot versus Sarah Aline
Arbitrator J3D
Created 17:38, 4 September 2008 (BST) by Iscariot
Status Awaiting Sarah Aline's Opening Statement
Summary Dispute over the content of the Southall Mansion location page.


Jorm and the MOB versus Zeug and Extinction

Involved Users Jorm versus Zeug
Arbitrator Cheese
Created 21:32, 22 September 2008 by Jorm
Status Waiting for terms of the ruling to be accepted and carried out.
Summary Jorm wants all references to the MOB removed from Zeug's United Zombies of Malton portal and from aforementioned portal's wiki page.


Grimch vs. Conndraka

Involved Users The Grimch versus Conndraka
Arbitrator Honestmistake
Created 03:32, 29 May 2008 by The Grimch
Status In progress
Summary Grim wants the ruling Conndraka made against him removed and for Conndraka to cease ruling on adminitrative matters he brings.


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