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User:Son of Sin

A/VB, Nov. 3rd warning, Nov 28th self-requested warning, and 250+ edits. thanks Akule for teaching me how to be precise.
Son of Sin 08:32, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

You were warned less than a month ago, so no A/DE yet. Please re-apply in about a fortnight. -- Spiderzed 23:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Nah its been more than one month. It was my bad for using the worng date when I added him to A/VD. I'll check edits and de-escalate accordingly. ~Vsig.png 02:53, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


can i has descalation ? --hagnat 02:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

no. Read the guidelines to find out why DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I count more than a month and more than 250 edits since the last escalation. What exactly could get into they way? De-escalated. -- Spiderzed 23:26, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Good to see someone follows the rules and supplies the appropriate links, even if it's not the person wishing for de-escalation DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


Spiderzed (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

My month is up, and my image categorizations alone qualify me for de-escalation. One of the 3-ish other active ops should go ahead and strike my warning, plox. -- Spiderzed 11:23, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Fuck a duck, has a been a month already? Enjoy your clean slate, sir. ~Vsig.png 00:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


DanceDanceRevolution (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Once upon a time, in my annoying and grouchy youth, I put off these DE requests as a way of seeing how long it could take a dedicated but extreme wiki user to be eventually banned from decisions made and warnings given over a period of time. Turns out I'm much more tame as I thought I would be and only ever accrued one warning. So, shamefully admitting how boring I am, I'm turning myself in to start with a clean slate and just get on with doing stuff. link to a/vd. link to warning. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Spiderzed 00:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


I was still entirely correct to ban him, but can I get a descalation? Or whatever the hell this is? --Like Moss and The Dude..... 19:00, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

No idea how that came there in the first place, but you have more than enough edits and time under your belt for A/DE anyway. Done. -- Spiderzed 19:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

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It's been over half a year, which means it's time for Cornholioo to come back on this wiki to punch you all in the faces. Especially you, sexualharrison. Bankschroef 17:25, 26 September 2011 (BST)

For (Unban Cornholioo)

  1. Unban Everyone!--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 18:12, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  2. I wasn't around when this ban was delivered so obviously it was probably delivered through harassment and something about Grim regardless of whether or not he was or wasn't banned or involved. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:01, 26 September 2011 (BST)
    Well obviously that's how it works around here now, it's so nice of the sysop izumi voters showing me the way so I could make the right vote finally. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:02, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  3. Basically what Mis said but in reverse :P Also as Anime!       01:14, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  4. yes i can! looking forward to playing with you corny. -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת01:18, 27 September 2011 (bst)
  5. I want to make a stupid decision just like Spiderzed. I said I'd try failure out and he's my role model for failure. -- Goribus 04:08, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  6. Cornholio needs TP for his bunghole--JambalayaTCGR 22:35, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  7. Surely after serving six months of his Permanent Ban, he's learned his lesson. I'm not up on WIKI LAW but this only seems fair.--Jack Officer 23:12, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  8. Why not? -- Jerrel tlk (82nd!) (Project Unwelcome!). 00:06, 2 October 2011 (BST)
  9. Lols plox--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:11, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Against (Unban Conholioo)

  1. Nope. Same as Izumi only more so. Waaay too many vandal alts and vandalism. ~Vsig.png 17:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
  2. The above heartfelt please almost made me vote yes. --Hey Sweden! 17:37, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  3. Of all the perma-banned vandals we have this is probably the biggest idiot around. No hope whatsoever he'll ever reform. -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 17:41, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  4. While it might ge good for some (very brief) lulz at Cornlolio's expense, very definitively not. Corn had worked really intensively on being perma'd, way more than Izumi. -- Spiderzed 18:09, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  5. No point. He'd last for a week, two at most. --AORDMOPRI ! T 20:49, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  6. How would you tell him? You're not allowed to post on his talk page, and he'd simply take you to AA over it. -Poodle of DoomT*C 21:05, 26 September 2011 (BST)
    Yeah, you're right. It would be such a huge shame if by some miracle he was unbanned and then never told about it. ~Vsig.png 21:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
    Isn't irony amazing? -Poodle of DoomT*C 21:58, 26 September 2011 (BST)
    That's not even remotely ironic. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 04:13, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  7. As much as I want the fun back, I can't in good conscience vote against Izumi and for Bunghole. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 22:39, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  8. I don't want to have to tell him when he can and can't make arbitration cases any more. Don't like it? Maybe he should take me to arbies over it... OH WAIT, HE CAn'T!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:39, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  9. Fuck no. If he comes back, all we'll ever hear is his Nazi drama and racist remarks. Not really something we want on this wiki. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:13, 27 September 2011 (BST)
    as mis. tee hee. ooh banky you going to cry? why don't you take cornholes little dick outta your mouth and show up in game so we can slaughter you some more.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת01:16, 27 September 2011 (bst)
  10. Cornholioo had plenty of chances and broke the rules and his ban time willingly even though it wasn't worth the extended punishment he received for trying to get his messages across. IMO I was one of the more lenient sysops regarding Corn and even I don't think he deserves the rescinding lest would he benefit much from it. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 09:00, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  11. No. We were already too lenient on him the first time, since he loved riling everyone up by dancing on the border of vandalism, saying racist and anti-Semetic remarks, and creating massive amounts of administrative overhead. And since we banned him, he's been coming back to vandalize major pages on the wiki every time his zerger group manages to pull together a dozen kills (i.e. once every 4-6 months, since nothing can fix his incompetence). He's continued to demonstrate through his ongoing vandalism that he has no interest in being a contributing member of the community. Aichon 01:21, 28 September 2011 (BST)
  12. Just pick up Mein Kampf if you need rambling diatribes in your life.--Mallrat The Spanish Inquisition TSI The Kilt Store TKS Clubbed to Death CTD 19:58, 28 September 2011 (BST)
  13. I don't really believe we should permaban anyone.... Corn is the exception that proves the rule! --Honestmistake 00:00, 29 September 2011 (BST)
  14. I'm pretty sure the wiki already has met its asshat quota. Why bring another back? --Kirsty Cotton 23:02, 29 September 2011 (BST)
  15. I say no. Reason? Hes a dick. -- הבוס CGR Mossad 15:33, 1 October 2011 (BST)
  16. I'm a jewish-black-bolshevik conspiracy in the digital flesh, so guess what. --Zyckde 20:20, 3 October 2011 (BST)

The two weeks are up. Cornholioo has clearly failed the required 2/3 majority. -- Spiderzed 18:01, 10 October 2011 (BST)

User:Izumi Orimoto

Izumi Orimoto (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

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I'm submitting Izumi for an appeal for her permaban handed in 2007. The last actual vandalism by that user was years ago, and mostly due to conflict with Grim. Since then, the only thing the user ever has done was to edit her own group page Lockettside Valkyries - which wouldn't be a crime at all if it weren't for the ban evasion.

As the user still seems to have an interest into editing that page, I propose we give her a chance to do so legally and peacefully.

As this is bound to be a heated case, note that Permaban appeal only strikes the permaban escalation itself - all other escalations are kept. Just one infraction, and Izumi is again up for a permaban vote. Not much potential harm that couldn't be undone with a couple of button pushes. -- Spiderzed 19:16, 24 September 2011 (BST)

Most of that is just factually incorrect. She committed a shitload of vandalism with her vandal alts (even if you don't count the ban evasion itself). Don't you remember all the instances of "you can't ban me (bwhahaha), and if you don't ignore my ban evasion, I'll wreck your wiki" type edits while vandalising admin and user pages? Grim was just the one who handed her the month ban, she earned all of her escalation up to, and past that point. She was fairly warned about the rules of the wiki, but she continued to edit other people's group pages regardless, and when finally banned, she just wigged out, creating hundreds of socks and vandalised even harder. The only reason she stopped, was because it had become painfully obvious to her that it was far easier for us to ban and revert her vandalism, than it was for her to commit it -- boxy 22:35, 24 September 2011 (BST)
Still not reading, eh Boxy? Once she knew that it was considered vandalism, she stopped reverting the edits, and was willing to take the case to arbitration to work it out. However, Mobius didn't want that, did he? You gave him exactly what he asked for. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:21, 24 September 2011 (BST)
She knew it was against the rules. She'd been warned, earlier in the year, about editing other people's pages, and Mobius had asked her to stop already, but she continued edit warring up until the point that it became clear that she was about to get a warning for it. Too late... too late -- boxy 00:44, 25 September 2011 (BST)
"While I know from your past comments that you are attempting to defend SweetHikari you are doing so in a manner that will be construed as vandalism." Mobius187 July 27 2007, 8:14 AM (EST) followed by the case being brought with a time stamp Mobius187 July 27 2007, 5:53 PM (EST)... what's that? 9 and a half hours, in which time she continually repeated editing a rival group's page despite being told not to, and that it would be considered vandalism, and also being told how to go about getting the name off the list legitimately. It's not that big a deal, I admit, but worth a vandal escalation. Unfortunately for her, she had done it multiple times before, and it meant a ban -- boxy 01:01, 25 September 2011 (BST)
I have been authorized by Izumi via private forum to speak for her and manage her affairs on this website so that her presence here will no longer be an issue. Izumi has informed me of her past issues with UDwiki staff and while I am reluctant to take sides on this matter I can tell you that she no longer has any interest of remaining where she is not wanted. While this random de-escaltion whatchamacallit out of nowhere is appreciated and I'm sure Izumi will be happy to hear of it, should she be denied editing rights I shall take over her responsibilities to the best of my ability without her involvement. Best regards, Sage of Winds 02:55, 25 September 2011 (BST)

For (Unban Izumi Orimoto)

  1. Unban everyone!--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:17, 24 September 2011 (BST)
    Unban ALL THE Vandals! --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:31, 24 September 2011 (BST)
  2. See my reasons above. -- Spiderzed 21:55, 24 September 2011 (BST)
  3. Izumi shouldn't have been banned here, as both sides were in agreement that they would talk out the situation in arbitration, but despite the situation being defused, Boxy came in and ruled it vandalism without any other sysop input. It's not surprising however, since Mobius asked boxy to nuke her by stating he was "being griefed", that she "needed a time out", despite not really talking things out. Oh sure, there was very little discussion before the "big gun" was brought out to weigh in, but you can clearly see that Izumi had no idea that editing the page was against the rules ("Also, it is NOT against wiki rules to remove your own name from a page, be it group or otherwise. I know you probably believe you are more intelligent than me, but you are sadly mistaken. I don't dislike you or have any wish to offend you either. However, I will continue to take my name off of the list purely because I 'can'. Sorry for the inconvienience."). However, when I look at this response I can clearly see why Boxy was Mobius's go-to guy to get rid of people who didn't understand the rules of the wiki. No investigation to verify bad faith was done by Boxy. No consideration that the two sides were working it out themselves, as clearly evident on the edits on the 28th on the A/VB page AND on Mobius's talk page. Nope. Mobius asks for a ban, and gets exactly that. After all, a ban was faster for Mobius, instead of explaining the rules: "Personally I would prefer not to have this go through the trouble of arbitration, if only because I know that it will only serve waste more of my free time." Once the rules were explained to Izumi: "I'm willing to go through arbitration. All I want is my name off the damn list, I'm not trying to be "malicious" or cause problems! Arghhhhh!!!" But, hey. It's easier to ban someone who doesn't understand the rules, when you are the only one ruling on it, right? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:09, 24 September 2011 (BST)
  4. Anyone who believes Izumi has any interest in vandalism severely overestimates her amount of free time. I genuinely believe that her sole interest is access to her group page and so forth, and from what little background research I've done my conclusion is that she wasn't treated fairly in the first place, which may have prompted her instances of bad behavior. I've also come across records of her attempting to seek administrative assistance in order to reach a less harsh punishment, only to have other administrators block her progress. I don't see the harm of giving her a second chance, especially considering it wouldn't take any effort to re-ban her. Sage of Winds 06:08, 25 September 2011 (BST)
    Sorry, you can't vote on your own unbanning.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:47, 25 September 2011 (BST)
    'Scuse me, that theory of yours just got struck on A/VB. How you like them apples? Sage of Winds 18:11, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  5. She starts again? Ban her. If she doesn't vandalize? Then she can stay. Dang that was simple.        14:40, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  6. ^ Mazu's right Standard Zombie 18:32, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  7. Staying in the confines of the wiki-reality and following its practices and laws, there is probably no more authentic and relevant a ban. Sure. But the wiki is so greatly diminished and inconsequential that I think our moral fibres will remain strung and unsnapped (ah, he made a pretty analogy, right? I'm so important) if we allowed Izumi back. And another but, I don't think it matters. There is Sage of Winds. All she probably wants to do (and many of her alts wanted to do), is to edit the Lockettside Valkyries page. And, one more and, as Mazu. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:51, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  8. I believe she has been wikirehabilitated, and can be helpful user to the community! && Because DDR is a FAG.--Deaths View 20:51, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  9. Mis said in his vote, "If Izumi didn't deserve it the first time, the numerous evasions since have more than warranted it." That right there swayed me to vote for the unbanning of Izumi. Why? Let's think about this for a second. If Izumi didn't deserve it, then she shouldn't have gotten that perma-ban. If she never gotten that perma-ban, she would have never used her numerous alts to circumvent the ban, which caused her case to be escalated even further. It's a chain of events. If she was never unlawfully banned in the first place, the event with her alts might have never occurred. And, I guess I'll jump on the "As Mazu" bandwagon as well. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:57, 27 September 2011 (BST)
    If you get unlawfully fired from your job and then decided to burn the place down you are still guilty for arson. Hurr durr. -- Goribus 04:20, 27 September 2011 (BST)
    But if you didn't, you would have never burned the place down in the first place. Like I said. It's a chain of events. One event leads to another, which leads to another, and so forth. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:04, 27 September 2011 (BST)
    As a law student, I can happily tell you that that is not how causation works.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:09, 27 September 2011 (BST)
    Doesn't stop people from making the argument as a defense, and certainly doesn't stop people from occasionally buying it as a valid defense. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 18:22, 1 October 2011 (BST)
    Wow are you fucking serious -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:39, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  10. Because mobius the dickhead wanted the ban so it must have been wrong. --Grogh 23:25, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  11. all the problems Izumi caused after the ban seemed to be the result of imaturity and stubborness. Let her back, if all else fails then at least the 1 strike and you are gone rule should have its day of use. --Honestmistake 00:02, 29 September 2011 (BST)

Against (Unban Izumi Orimoto)

  1. No. Izumi is only fun because she turns up avoiding bans and there's always a bit of banter. In all seriousness, it's a complete lie to say that Izumi "hasn't broken teh rulez in years", because every time she's made a new account to edit (which she did hundreds of fucking times) has been vandalism. If there's anybody on the wiki who needs to stay permabanned, it's Izumi. Hell, I'd rather we unbanned 3pwv, at least he had class. But then again, maybe this is just because I'm a shiftless DA drone, keeping down one of our kills. ;) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:10, 24 September 2011 (BST)
  2. Some people are just too stupid to be allowed access to the internets -- boxy 22:35, 24 September 2011 (BST)
    Some people should have followed the A/VB guidelines, and the golden rule. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:15, 24 September 2011 (BST)
    Then what are you doing here?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:49, 25 September 2011 (BST)
    Oo, he got you pretty good there, boxy. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:51, 25 September 2011 (BST)
    Damn kids Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* -- boxy 07:20, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  3. How many ban evasion alt accounts were actually created? If it was just 1 or 2, I've vote for unbanning. The actual count is considerably higher. Asheets 23:24, 24 September 2011 (BST)
    It's quite a bit more than two, 89 that we know of and took the time to list. There are whole days where the ban log is Izumi. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:09, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  4. Honestly, this would tell me everything I'd need to know if I weren't there for the case but, since I was, I can tell you for a matter of fact that while Grim enjoyed banning her alts so did Thari, Karlsbad, Boxy, and every other sysop at the time, he had no significant role in her escalations she earned those through legitimate acts of vandalism. Her ban wasn't Grim induced, although people did harass her after the fact through the alts she constantly made, and though Grim caught the lions share of those he was not a player of note in her banning, that's on Boxy and Mobius. Izumi's behavior was consistently the same her whole time on the wiki. To unban this particularly prolific vandal would be a clear sign that this particular process should be scrapped and forgotten about. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:25, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  5. If I'm not mistaken she's zerg listed (or formerly zerg listed), vandalized the living fuck out of the wiki, used alts to evade bans, etc. God damn Spiderzed, you sure know how to pick your friends. Hahahaha. Anyway, she's one of the last people that should be unbanned. Unless you really expect a drama queen of her caliber to seriously not go back to her normal shit. -- Goribus 05:24, 25 September 2011 (BST)
    Izumi's not my "friend" - don't really care about her either way. I have merely looked into the case as it was brought up on A/PT, and couldn't see good reason to keep that user perma'd. -- Spiderzed 13:29, 25 September 2011 (BST)
    You mean aside from the 90 or so alt accounts she used for ban evasion and vandalism? I mean, I could understand putting a user up for unban if they'd only done it a few times. And really only if they didn't know they weren't allowed to make alt accounts after a ban. It's perfectly fine to have more than one UD wiki account as long as you don't vote with them after all. But 90 alt evasion bans? And you 'couldn't see a good reason to keep that user perma'd?' Damn, I know who I'm voting for in a few Grimmies categories next year. -- Goribus 22:33, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  6. as goribus and the spambit hater-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת05:57, 25 September 2011 (bst)
  7. Absolutely not. Otherwise, as GORIBUS -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 09:47, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  8. What DDR said. --Hey Sweden! 09:51, 25 September 2011 (BST)
  9. No. The warnings and bans look legit to me and 100 or so permaban evasion alts (including this most recent one) says to me she doesn't get a second chance. ~Vsig.png 16:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
  10. As DDR. Also, when I saw this posted on the front page, I figured it had to be a flippant suggestion made by someone for the lols. I never would have expected that it was Spiderzed who suggested it. I figured you'd know better. Izumi has earned her permaban dozens of times over. Aichon 02:15, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  11. NO! Why let a known troublemaker back in? Don't we have enough troubles? -- Taecsmall.jpg DirtManT|FU|StäV 06:34, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  12. Never, I used to be a Valk and watched her zerging to try and retake control of that group. I'd vote her down for that alone. When you take the none stop vandalism into account, I have to wonder whether Spiderzed is set to gain something from this, or just plain stupid. Malicron 08:05, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  13. fuck no. Vandals are permabanned for a reason.   URGGGGGGGHTalk PSYCHOUTTalk STAN SATANTalk 08:14, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  14. Looks like she's an upset antagonist Son of Sin(T) 08:36, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  15. If you want to persuade me to vote a certain way then you have obviously have to have a good case but more importantly have some humility --C Whitty 18:52, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  16. If Izumi didn't deserve it the first time, the numerous evasions since have more than warranted it. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 22:34, 26 September 2011 (BST)
  17. Nah brah--JambalayaTCGR 22:33, 27 September 2011 (BST)
  18. Narp. --Mallrat The Spanish Inquisition TSI The Kilt Store TKS Clubbed to Death CTD 20:08, 28 September 2011 (BST)
  19. If she posted a sincere apology via her proxy this request would likely be more favorably received. --UroguyTMZ 21:45, 28 September 2011 (BST)
    If she did that, most of the current SysOps who were involved in the Izumi drama back then will probably immediately see it as another count of ban evasion. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:31, 1 October 2011 (BST)
    Well it seems that Sage of Winds person "speaks for her" or somesuch. Given the vote count right now it doesn't seem like the majority of the wiki has forgotten whatever the drama was. --UroguyTMZ 01:22, 2 October 2011 (BST)

The two weeks are up. Izumi has clearly failed the required 2/3 majority. -- Spiderzed 18:01, 10 October 2011 (BST)


Because I like to be for every day good times.

I supposedly have met the criteria for de-escalation, I think. I'm a bit rusty on this here wiki and out of touch on most of the rules. However, I'm told I can be put up for this, etc.

At the end of the day, at least it will erase that warning/ban I got in ancient wiki history (wikistory?) that was later overturned but never removed.

Here's my contrib list, which I think is the required evidence, here. -- ™ & © Amazing, INC. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 20:05, 16 September 2011 (BST)

Here you go. Now you have once again an extra life to spare before it is perma vote time. -- Spiderzed 20:16, 16 September 2011 (BST)
Those edits were made in bad faith, they don't count. Especially that vouch for Katthew for sop. I keed. I keed ~Vsig.png 20:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Domo arigato. -- ™ & © Amazing, INC. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 22:38, 16 September 2011 (BST)


Two years, 250+ edits, and I still say It was a serious suggestion! (Also this is the most confusing structure ever 'Archive' makes me think it's the wrong place) Moonie Talk Testimonials 04:32, 8 July 2011 (BST)

Gotcha. I rather like the archive structure, though. ~Vsig.png 04:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
The Archive structure is cool but just as a suggestion maybe a word other than 'Archive' which seems to be used predominatly for pages which are not active and shouldn't be edited elsewhere. Moonie Talk Testimonials 05:08, 8 July 2011 (BST)


has been almost 2 years since my warning and must be at least 250 edits so can i please have that shit removed from my record? --Honestmistake 18:01, 6 June 2011 (BST)

Yessiree. ~Vsig.png 18:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Yay! --Honestmistake 23:19, 6 June 2011 (BST)


If he still have time to write walls of text and have someone else post 'em in the wiki, have him unbanned and let him do so himself. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 14:30, 17 May 2011 (BST)

Keep off the meds and let us do the hard thinking mate, Iscariot is not currently banned. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 14:37, 17 May 2011 (BST)
is he not ? i could have sworn he had a self-request somewhere... than, why the fuck is rev speaking for him ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 14:41, 17 May 2011 (BST)
Boycotting the wiki, I guess. That's all I really can say on the matter as I know not much else, other than that it was caused by his vandal data. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 14:53, 17 May 2011 (BST)
Wherever he's gone, Izzy must not be getting enough persecution to feed his complex. Of course he can't come back here. He's been so victimized by the cruel bastards on this Wiki (never mind that he was one of the cruelest to ever inhabit the Wiki) that he's far too traumatized to return to the scene of the violation.-- | T | BALLS! | 14:59 17 May 2011(UTC)


Amazing (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

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I'm submitting Amazing up for an appeal to his permaban handed in 2006 as per an informal promise I made to him via email. As was discussed in a recent policy discussion here, there are many users wishing for Amazing to return to the wiki despite his permaban handed in 06 which has been arguably done under sketchy circumstances. I wasn't there so I won't take sides.

Anyways, many of the votes against him were more concerned with the way the voting was handled via A/PD and I don't think it was particularly reflective on whether Amazing was deemed by the community to be allowed back more than the way the vote was made on the wiki, and unfortunately the only one who loses out because of that is Amazing.

Description aside, chances are if you're interesting in this vote or Amazing's future you've already been involved in the voting processes behind the Unban Amazing policy here or the Permaban Appeal policy recently approved to accommodate users like this, so I'll stop crapping on and leave the vote open.

N.B. I notice the lack of tact in posting this up a day after the policy I wrote just went through, but this is something I personally told Amazing I'd do regardless of bias or opinion and I'm already a month overdue on that promise, so please forgive that.

For (Unban Amazing)

  1. Now there are uniform rules behind votes like this there is practically no potential harm in letting Amazing (or others like him) back onto the wiki IMO. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 14:43, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Sure let him back in.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 15:47, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  3. I ignored him the first time around, I wanna see what he can pull out of his hat this time.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 16:45, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  4. I wasn't around during his banning either but I've tried to catch up on it as much as possible. I'm not sure what happened during the early history and why other ops got all uppity with him but what is clear is that they handled it poorly after the 48 hour ban. Perhaps they didn't have the proper tools to handle it properly but there was definitely some shitbaggery going on. For this reason, and because he has shown interest in returning, I think Amazing's Perma can be lifted. ~Vsig.png 17:02, 8 April 2011
  5. Yes. MHSstaff 18:04, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  6. Yes. The Ban was unfair and came about as part of a campaign of harassment. Not that Amazing wasn't being an asshat, just that it was mostly in response to others targeting him for lolz. --Honestmistake 18:35, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  7. Yes. You guys never yelled at me for messing up my wiki page. Plus I don't see any harm. PLUS, don't hate me because I am to nice. --Carrie Cutter 19:49, 8 April 2011 (BST)
    You never messed it up so bad even Kevan said it could qualify as a ToS violation I'm sure. --Karekmaps?! 21:11, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  8. For. Theres other people on this wiki that escaped permaban for doing more than Amazing did. That and I want to see if him coming back stirs up an entire hornests nest. -- Rolfe Steiner Talk | Creedy Guerrilla Raiders 21:25, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  9. It seems obvious that there was some funny business going on back then at various levels, most of which has been lost to time (no thanks to the mess that we call the archives from back then). A few folks I know from the game and trust well enough paint a very different picture of Amazing than we generally hear, so I'm willing to give him a chance. Aichon 00:01, 9 April 2011 (BST)
    i was around back than.. he was a very very funny but huge twat and asked for it. he could have handled himself a bit better, maybe took a few weeks off to calm down. i see the same thing happening again the second someone disagrees with him. -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 00:35 9 April 2011 (UTC)
    Oh, I have no doubt that he asked for it and could've handled it a lot better. I just think there's good reason to give him a second chance, given all of the weird irregularities, the railroading that was probably going on, and the time elapsed. Aichon 03:59, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  10. For - I'm hung over and easily influenced in my weakened condition. Also, I'm convinced DDR's vote is a trick to make me vote no. -- Goribus 00:40, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  11. Make it so. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 02:25, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  12. Yes. He was griefed into this mess with no chance for recourse. The sysops and users who unfairly hounded him are gone so I don't see any reason not to give him a chance. --Zod Rhombus 02:28, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  13. Sure, why not. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:19, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  14. Yes. Hatama 06:20, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  15. I wasn't around back in the day. However, the archives draw at least a dubious picture of the whole case, and even if Amazing is a jerk, 4-5 years are a lot of time for a person to potentially develop. Give him a chance, the way the policy is set up it's not too hard to get rid of a recently unbanned vandal. (First verdict before A/DE => Permaban vote) -- Spiderzed 09:51, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  16. As before. --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 13:56, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  17. Aichon convinced me otherwise. besides it not like I'll have to clean up the mess. and I get to say i told you so. win win! -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 15:51 9 April 2011 (UTC)
  18. You're very convincing. Smyg 16:24, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  19. I found it ridiculous last time when people were against because there wasn't a page for it. I still agree with unbanning him now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:30, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  20. Just Cause--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:05, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  21. Ah amazing and his lovely beard, how we've missed you. I wasn't involved in wikigate when it happened, nor did I particularly care about it but he has been banned for a long time. I don't see any harm with giving a second chance, especially as it can easily be rescinded in the case of further shenanigans. Gordon 22:17, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  22. --Atahalne 02:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)
  23. Sure! Why not? It sounds fun! --Akbar 04:52, 10 April 2011 (BST)
  24. Yes, he is amazing after all. --Xan2020 00:04, 11 April 2011 (BST)
  25. Scrollwars. Mikhos 00:28, 11 April 2011 (BST)
  26. 5 years will likely have matured him, and I doubt he'll last long if it hasn't. I see no reason not to unban him. --Shatari 05:08, 11 April 2011 (BST)
  27. I wasn't here before, but I looked through the cases. Seems like he wasn't such a bad guy before wikigate. If he turns out bad, then he'll just be sent off again quickly (Besides, I wanna see some of the drama he caused if he hasn't changed! :P) -- †  talk ? f.u. 13:20, 11 April 2011 (BST)
  28. Hell yes I am all for this, probably! --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) ;x You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild! @ 08:39, 17 April 2011 (BST)
  29. Wasn't there but if it was any sketchier than when i left a year or so ago.....--Weed.jpgArthur DentWeed.jpg BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 16:39, 17 April 2011 (BST)
  30. hurf durf --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 22:50, 17 April 2011 (BST)
  31. this side is going to beat that other side & im going to be on the winning team~ --Riseabove 06:34, 18 April 2011 (BST)
  32. Yes. It was an obvious set-up. DarthRevan 14:19, 18 April 2011 (BST)
  33. Yes. If Grim didn't get a perma-ban for his actions then Amazing doesn't deserve one. --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 14:36, 18 April 2011 (BST)
  34. 5 years, and he still wants back in. Few here are the same person they were back then. Give him his second chance.--Avandor 05:10, 19 April 2011 (BST)
  35. Yes, he's a persistent little fellow isn't he! And besides, he's Amazing! -- Taecsmall.jpg DirtManT|FU|StäV 06:38, 26 September 2011 (BST) vote struck as it was added well after Amazing was unbanned. ~Vsig.png 07:13, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Against (Unban Amazing)

  • i see nothing good coming of this -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:58 8 April 2011 (UTC)
    Vote Changed Aichon changed my mind -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 15:49 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Does this mean Thad needs to change his vote too? :P --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 23:01, 13 April 2011 (BST)
ashseets also. -lol-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:10 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm thinking about it... Asheets 16:05, 15 April 2011 (BST)
  1. As Harrison. --Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 16:50, 8 April 2011 (BST)
  2. He earned his permaban and tried to get around it with alternates. I don't really see the point in bringing him back, though I could possibly be convinced otherwise. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 16:57, 8 April 2011 (BST)
    As Harrison. Plus, if this goes through then somebody will be nominating Izumi Orimoto next. Asheets 17:29, 8 April 2011 (BST) VOTE CHANGED -- I'm going to abstain since I wasn't around to really know anything. Asheets 16:08, 15 April 2011 (BST)
    you know i'm gonna put cornhole up for unbanning if this goes thru.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 19:48 8 April 2011 (UTC)
    I'm in compleate support of this^--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:25, 15 April 2011 (BST)
    Considering that Corn continues to attempt to override his ban by creating alt accounts, his permaban keeps getting bumped, and thus it hasnt been 6 months for it to qualify as an appeal.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 16:34, 15 April 2011 (BST)
    Well thats just deppressing :(--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:37, 15 April 2011 (BST)
    at least we have the dead to play with this summer.. hey thads term is up and we can unban corn.. ahh it's going to be a good fall.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking       bitch   17:10 15 April 2011 (UTC)
  3. We just did this and this really should probably be a vandal escalation for spamming for whoever put this up right after a failed policy attempt to do the same. --Karekmaps?! 21:09, 8 April 2011 (BST)
    That policy failed because many people voted against because they felt the appeal was improperly handled, rather than being against Amazing's unbanning. --Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:15, 8 April 2011 (BST)
    That's both irrelevant and not really correct either. This issue has been brought up multiple times in the past, failed every time and just recently failed, wait at least damn a month. --Karekmaps?! 21:24, 8 April 2011 (BST)
    You'll be happy to know that the most recent one failed just a hair over one month ago and that over half of the Against votes (10 of 19, to be precise) were because of various forms of technicalities that were tangential to the point of the policy, which indicates to me that it's hardly an irrelevant point. :) Aichon 23:42, 8 April 2011 (BST)
    ^ -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 01:12, 9 April 2011 (BST)
    I meant from now. Thought that was clear, please look over any of the many previous votes on Amazing to see why it's irrelevant. --Karekmaps?! 04:30, 9 April 2011 (BST)
  4. Because this is still a silly idea. -- Cheese 23:19, 13 April 2011 (BST)
  5. UDWiki is not really that important enough for a person to really wish to come back.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 01:13, 14 April 2011 (BST)
  6. Would open to the door to all kinds of others.... --Louis Vernon 11:33 14 April 2011 (BST)
    The policy for permaban appeals has already been accepted. People can come back from being completely banned from the wiki, which means the door is already open. The point of this vote is to see if the user Amazing should be allowed to come back or not. Please spend a little time reading the various pages concerning this topic before blindly voting on something you know nothing about. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:15, 14 April 2011 (BST)
    I have read it and am aware that the door is already open as you say. I am not blindly voting on something I know nothing about. I may have worded it a little unclearly but what I meant is that as this is such a high profile case, I suspect the already open door will start getting a lot more people trying to get through, some of whom should, some of whom shouldn't. --Louis Vernon 13:11 15 April 2011 (BST)
    isn't that the point of all this? and that's why we having this little vote. holy crap! read the policy. -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:08 15 April 2011 (UTC)
  7. This is a retarded idea, and all of you are also retarded. Did I mention this place is run by retards? Well it is. 'Tards. – Nubis NWO 21:09, 17 April 2011 (BST)

The two weeks are up. With an approval rate of ~83%, the community has voted in favour of unbanning Amazing. Thus, he will be unbanned. -- Spiderzed 15:07, 22 April 2011 (BST)


Misanthropy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Slipping in my old age. Eat 'er up. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 04:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Dunno what I did to make the default contribution counter start at 500, I was like "this idiot isn't even close" as it went to 22nd January. Alas, consider it done. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


Penguinpyro (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Far more than 250 edits and one month after the incident--Penguinpyro 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

You need 250 edits made, the count begins after the warning you received. You've only made around 75 since you were escalated, sorry. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
I have a question- what constitutes a "good-faith edit" then? I'm having trouble locating the definition. Does it refer to non-minor changes made to public pages other than user-based pages?--Penguinpyro 00:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
In practice "good faith edit" means any edit. I think it's supposed to stop people spamming newbies with welcome templates just to get a short de-escalation, but in reality no one kicks up enough of a stink over any type of non-vandalistic edit. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
If you meanany edit, I have more than 500 contributions since January 2nd 2010, all non-vandalism. Even discarding minor edits, uploading images and changes to my user page, I have still have roughly 260 edits, plus or minus 20, since then...I believe you might have mistaken January 2 2011 as the day of the escalation, since I have exactly 80 edits since then. However, if you still believe you are correct, I will begin my quest for the Holy Gr 250 edits and come back later. --Penguinpyro 11:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
No, you are absolutely right. I apologise, and thanks for being reasonable regarding my stuff-up. I've given the warning a strike, you're now on a clean slate. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 11:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)