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This page is for the request of page deletions within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to concerns about loss of data, the ability to delete pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request a deletion from the system operators. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.

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Speedy Deletion Eligibility

To be eligible for a Speedy Deletion Request, the page must fall under at least one of the following criteria:

1. No Content: The page contains no more than a line or two of content that cannot clearly be expanded, consists of random or incoherent content, or is duplicated elsewhere to no purpose.
2. Off-Topic: The page is a clearly off-topic page.
3. Unused Redirect: The page is an unused or underused (ie, only 1-2 pages using the link) redirect.
4. Empty Category: The page is a Category page that has no entries within it.
5. Missed Talk Page: The page is a Talk: Page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so)

   As of 19 May 2010, Crit 5 is now a scheduled deletion.

6. Deletion Workaround: The page is a duplicate of a page that has been deleted from a previous deletion request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so). A page that fits this criterion is immediately qualified for deletion without requiring it be nominated on the 'Speedy Deletions' page. Recreating a page that fits this criterion will get you a polite message to stop doing so. Any further infractions of this nature will qualify as vandalism and will be treated as such. Note that criterion 6 does not apply when the page has been restored through Undeletions.
7. Author Edit Only: The page has been requested for speedy deletion by the original author, and has been edited only by its author. Note that edits by adbots or vandals and reverts caused by them do not count.
8. User Page: The page is a User subpage that has been requested for speedy deletion by the original author.
9. Personal Page (Prefix Rule): The page is named after a user without the "User:" or "Journal:" prefixes and its content has been moved to the appropriate User or Journal page. Includes pages that should be User subpages, ie. in-game characters.

   As of 2011, August 29, Crit 9 is now a scheduled deletion.

10. Unused Template: The page is a template that has existed for at least one week and is currently unused within the wiki.
11. Non-existent User Page: The page is a User: page for a user that doesn't exist, and any content on the page has been moved to the appropriate User: or Journal: page.

    As of 20 June 2009, Crit 11 is now a scheduled deletion.

12. Defunct group page: The page is a non-historical group page, it is over two months old, it has not had an update in a month, and is not on the stats page. Such pages will remain in the queue for 5 days to determine their defunct status has been correctly identified. Due to the large number of pages that fit into this criterion, please {{speedydelete12}} on the pages to ensure that they are categorized differently from normal speedy deletion requests.

    As of 2007, September 16, this is no longer a valid criterion.

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Deletion Queue

Unofficial UD News

Horribly misleading.--xoxo 02:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - From orbit. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 06:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The Clegg Family

No real content, an unfinished page by a user who hasn't contributed in two years.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Яed Яum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 12:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It's to do with Category:Families of Malton... which, along with the Lexicon project, I don't really understand -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:00 23 November 2008 (BST)

• Delete, not speedy in case the guy miraculously shows up and wants it. --xoxo 12:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, but I'll post on Families of Malton talk page telling them about this, and just in case they want it expanded. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Although it doesn't look like that page is active. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - no content; abandoned. --WanYao 22:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - As above. Would be speedy crit 1, but the Malton Families thingy might want it expanded. (what is the Malton Families, anyway?) --Pestolence^(talk) 02:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

  Just a fictional history project, similar to ALiM but less awesome. Excluding a few cases, it seems to have never really taken off.--xoxo 02:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - Some of the Families pages have value. Not this one. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 06:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

ZEMA Profile

Dupe of Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile except for the template which I'll add to the other one.. =p -- Cheese 16:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Delete - Duplicated content. --Toejam 18:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Delete - What Toejam said. --Pestolence^(talk) 19:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep - It is created for Advertizement Purposes and Profiles for Users on the Game because the homepage website name is too big. Enough said. --Soldier 21:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

   www.tinyurl.com.--Karek^maps?! 02:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

4. Delete - Duplicated elsewhere. -- Cheese 22:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Delete - As above. --Haliman - Talk 23:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Keep and redirectSpeedydelete - crit 1, duplicated elsewhere to no purpose -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 23:27 22 November 2008 (BST)

   Redirect it then, if he can't work out the tinyurl thang -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 08:36 23 November 2008 (BST)

7. (Speedy) Delete and Redirect - dupe Linkthewindow  Talk  01:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

   Apparently, they want this page deleted as well (the dupe.) What's going on? Linkthewindow  Talk  07:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

   Some craziness over a group page in ns:0. Some of it can be seen on Boxy and Cheese's pages.--Karek^maps?! 08:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

   The only one who wants that one deleted is Soldier -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 08:37 23 November 2008 (BST)

   This microdrama is making me very confused :(. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

8. Delete - nah.--xoxo 05:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Delete - As Toejam.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Яed Яum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 12:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
10. delete --WanYao 22:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

• Keep and Redirect - It's not like anyone else is gonna want this pagename. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 06:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Current Buildings of Stanbury Village

It just copies the Stanbury Village page...--Haliman - Talk 21:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Doesn't copy the Stanbury Village page, but no-one seems to be updating it. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Keep - as Midianian. Didn't notice the age. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep - From the looks of it, it's supposed to be an actively updated map of the current state of buildings, so no, it doesn't just copy it. It's two hours old, give it some time. It's not even finished yet! --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [521,21]} 21:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep as mid. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Keep -- putting up brand new pages is VERY bad form. don't do it again, please. --WanYao 22:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Keep -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 00:02 24 November 2008 (BST)

• Keep -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 06:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Recent Actions

Malton Defense

Appears to be defunct; it was a redirect to Malton Defense Corporation, a now-disbanded group, and now is completely wiped, and linked to nowhere. --Pestolence^(talk) 15:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

• Speedydelete - crit 1, wiped by author -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 23:26 22 November 2008 (BST)
• Speedy Wiped by author. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy.--Karek^maps?! 02:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Done.--Karek^maps?! 02:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Stickling Mall IRC

The IRC channel it links to is defunct, and IRC links should be on the Urban Dead IRC Channels page.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Яed Яum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 12:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Critimication 1 - You can't really say much else about it and there is already a place for IRC links. They don't need their own page unless they are especially notable, which even then would be a stretch. -- Cheese 12:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Speedy--Nallan (Talk) 13:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Speedy and Move --- to IRC Channels. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Speedydelete - As above. --Pestolence^(talk) 15:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Done.--Karek^maps?! 02:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Pker List

I don't even know where to start with this page. I'm shocked it's evaded deletion for this long. It's biased, it's community edited, it's... well, look for yourselves. It's crap. It's almost crap enough to be laughable, but it lacks even that capacity. Maybe we could move it to a trenchcoater subpage. --Blackboard 15:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Crit 1 - . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:00, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep omg, not a pker list--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 16:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

   It's NOT a pker list... it's some misguided idiot's half-assed attempt at a pker list. There's no documentation, no criteria, nothing. I like being in the Rogues Gallery; however, it's an independent entity and does not have the "authority" of a peer-edited community page. If there IS to be an official pker list, I'm guessing there's going to be... shit, I don't know... probably like six or seven more people on there. Maybe eight, I'm not quite sure. Though I AM pretty sure your cousin Vic should be on there. What? Did I just reference your cousin Vic? Yeah, this page is that awesome. Don't get rid of it. It's lovely.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 13:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

3. Keep - Maybe make it a redirect to Rogues Gallery? --ZsL 23:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
4. crit 1 --~~~~ [talk] 23:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Keep Criteria 1 doesn't apply, as it could be expanded into some sort of anti-revive page or as a redirect to PK Reporting. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 00:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Crit 1 - wow, I haven't been here for a while... what a terrible place... RIP A/D ---------/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 01:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Crit 1 --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 01:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
8. Crit 1 - Why keep half assed bullshit when there is already something like that or it could be remade better?--– Nubis ^NWO 03:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Crit 1 - D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
10. Delete --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [508,07]} 08:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
11. Redirect/Merge - As ZS, Akule, etc. Just make it a redirect to the RG page, or a redirect to PK Reporting. Linkthewindow ^Talk 09:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
12. ^ - This. The page should not be a list in and of itself but rather a description of what pker lists are along with a few noteworthy ones.--Karek^maps?! 18:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
13. Keep - and change to a page describing what a PKlist is, and how to make one in your user or group sub-page area -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 21:59 7 November 2008 (BST)

    The idea of a PKer list is fairly straight forward and self explanatory...--xoxo 01:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

    But where to set up such pages on the wiki isn't. PK lists are totally POV, therefore each individual one should go somewhere where it's obvious whose PK list it is, and the best place for that is a group or alliance sub page -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 00:28 20 November 2008 (BST)

14. Keep - as Boxy, especially the group subpage part. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 06:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
15. detele - worthless. --WanYao 12:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
16. Keep - I like Boxy's idea. We could redirect Kill List into it as well as it comes up quite a lot. -- Cheese 18:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
17. Delete - nup.--xoxo 01:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
18. Keep and Redirect - to Rogues Gallery or PK Reporting. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
19. Keep and Redirect - As Pestolence.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Яed Яum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 11:40, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

• Kept - But narrowly (9 delete to 10 keep). I'll convert the page to a description of a Pker list and link to various related pages. -- Cheese 11:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

All saints day invasion

crit 1? Linked to nowhere. No evidence it actually happened. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Delete - Until someone can produce evidence of it happening. Linkthewindow ^Talk 13:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Crit 1 - The link on there says it was postponed. The Bash never knew anything about this. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
3. delete - i was there, i remember the hype. and nothing ever happened. --WanYao 12:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Delete -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 01:12 13 November 2008 (BST)
5. Delete - Kill it. With fire. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:35, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Speedy - Blow it up now before it comes back! -- Cheese 20:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Speedy - and done.--Karek^maps?! 00:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedied-Karek^maps?! 00:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Aggressive zombie

Orphaned page. Very hard to expand. And seemingly pointless. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Delete: As Ross. Linkthewindow ^Talk 00:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Delete/Speedy - -- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep - We don't have a policy or crit against the retarded. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Delete - The opposite of Mrh Cows and Passive zombie. Meh, we got Zombie --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Kepp - as AHLG. Serves a relative purpose. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

   Kill - I hate to be indecisive but I just changed my mind after reading it again =] D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

6. Delete - I don't like it. It vaguely serves a purpose but the content is absolute junk. If someone wants to rewrite it, until then get rid of it.--xoxo 02:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Delete - Not really useful. --ZsL 01:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
8. Delete Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 14:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Delete - Has anyone ever used this term in this sense? The antonym exists to distinguish mrh?cows from, y'know, zombies. The extra descriptor here is just redundant. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 07:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
10. Delete - Pointless and redundant, not to mention poorly written. --JARED^{Play the game} 17:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
11. delete - meh. --WanYao 12:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleted --ZsL 17:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Example_Sign

Crit 3 - this is a redirect to Beer Cruzade. The page name doesn't make sense and it isn't shorter than the group name.--– Nubis ^NWO 03:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Once the links to it are fixed up on this template, it can probably be speedydeleted as an unused redirect -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:26 16 November 2008 (BST)

That template shouldn't be in the G Groups category either, by the way. I don't have the time right now to see if it should be more of an event or possibly B Groups. But that's another thing we will need to look at. --– Nubis ^NWO 18:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Speedy Delete- Just fixed the link (it was a dodgy piece of code,) and now nothing links to it. Linkthewindow  Talk  04:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Speedy - Crit 3. --Pestolence^(talk) 17:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedily Deleted, cause I count as three.--Karek^maps?! 19:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Speels

It's a redirect to User:Speels. Should be deleted as per these precedents: 1, 2, 3, 4. --Pestolence^(talk) 20:49, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Speedy Delete - Crit. 3.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Speedzor - Killz it nao! -- Cheese 21:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Speedy Delete - Kill it... with Fire! Linkthewindow ^{Talk MCM} 22:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Done.--Karek^maps?! 01:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Suburb_Recruitment

I've already had this up for SD, but Boxy put a keep on it and then neglected to move it here.

I'd have this deleted under Crit 1, duplication of content. It's a recreation of Recruitment in a different format. I'd even say that it's bad faith, as it intentionally subverts the community consensus of the aforementioned page but unilaterally changing established guidelines by creating a copy of the page. This is no different to someone being duped or spammed on the suggestions system and then setting up their own 'Users Suggestions' page and not allowing spam or dupe votes.

The notion of reorganising the recruitment page has been discussed multiple times with no clear consensus being reached or even the author of this page actively participating. Changing a guideline on a community page requires discussion and consensus, the DEM are currently in this process attempting to correctly alter the page.

The page also has "Brought to you by The Gamer's Haven!" plastered across the top of it in a de facto attempt to establish authority over a page in the public space. At the very least this should be moved into that group's namespace on those grounds.

Either this or Recruitment needs deleting, there's no point in users putting work into one when another has a completely different set of guidelines and standards, it's just going to confuse the newbies and create wiki drama. It should be this page as Recruitment is already set up from the internal links and is easier to find, it is also the page with the established history of community consensus, not de facto claimed authority. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 09:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

1. Speedy Delete - Crit 1. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 09:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Speedy Delete - As Iscariot. Ether way, the group could at least move it. It's bad faith. Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

   To clarify, I don't see a Recruitment page listed by suburb as such a bad idea (although the suburb pages already have the info,) it's more that a group has claimed ownership over a mainspace page. Linkthewindow ^Talk 05:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

3. Keep - I saw this, personally i feel it's more useful than the existing recruitment page and could even replace the list of groups in a suburb in the right hand panel of each suburbs page. However if those two are gonna stay existing this could probably go.--xoxo 00:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
4. Keep - This is a (potentially) immensely useful page. Recruiting by suburbs plays to the strengths of many small and local groups that would otherwise get lost in the shuffle. What's wrong with having recruiting groups be able to recruit in both ways? Get rid of the "brought to you by the gamer's haven" bit, put a link on the Recruitment page saying, "or, instead of looking alphabetically, here are some groups recruiting by surburb," and let it stay. (Also -- I'd say that every group that put an add there, and decided to use it, has already endorsed it and found it useful). --Jen 05:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

   All this page is going to do is cause drama. The content is duplicated on the suburbs pages with the active groups list (which thanks to the recent Suburbs Massacre is now accurate), if people are looking by suburbs their first point of call is the suburb page in question. This has been debated numerous times on Talk:Recruitment. The main point of this is the subversion of community consensus, it has no guidelines, it arbitraily removes the large groups rule (thereby invalidating months of good faith discussion by Whitehouse, myself and members of the DEM) and has no criteria for removal. Newbie A puts his ad on both pages, I remove it for one of any number of reasons, he doesn't get why = drama ensues. We've seen it before. This is no different to my example of creating a new suggestions system because you were upset over it being a dupe and killed accordingly. There's a reason we have only one of each of these types of systems on the wiki. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 10:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

   This is retarded. The page duplicates information found on the main recruitment page ***AND*** in the suburb group listings. You can click on the link for any group in a given suburb and read their blurb, which always includes recruitment information. While well intentioned this page is a confusing waste of disk space. Delete it already. [addedndum] or else delete the main recruitment page while keeping and expanding this: because THAT page is a terrible and useless mess. --WanYao 02:12, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

5. Keep I happen to like the idea... It could use some work, but still. And Recruitment by itself is too good at what it does at a glance. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 11:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
6. Keep - No one seems to have contacted the guy before the page was put, first on a/sd, and now here, despite him posting on the recruitment talk page about it. Although I think that in it's current format, it would be a waste of time upkeeping both systems, I think the idea has merit, perhaps as a simple list page, where groups can provide a simple link to their existing recruitment page entry under the suburbs that they are active in -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:00 29 October 2008 (BST)
7. keep i prefer the split by suburbs... The page could do with a bit of work on its guidelines but i think if it can attract more attention then it will be a good and useful page.--Honestmistake 14:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
8. Delete/Move I think every suburb should have its own recruitment page to avoid these incidents. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Keep - Needs work, as many have pointed out above, but still a useful resource. Possibly the posting guidelines should be standardized with those of the old Recruitment page, to the extent possible. Certainly the Gamer's Haven tag should go. But really, since recruit ads are all templates anyway, what's wrong with being able to use them on two recruitment pages? And added bonus: because of the one-suburb rule, there won't be any DEM ads on this one either. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 07:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
10. delete -- as iscariot. --WanYao 12:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
11. Keep - I like the concept... It definitely needs a lot of work, though. --Pestolence^(talk) 02:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Kept --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Team_Zombie_Hardcore/Epsilon_Squad and Team_Zombie_Hardcore/Omega_Squad

Criterion 1? These don't have any content and haven't been edited since May. The first one is linked to nowhere but an old user page, and the second one isn't linked to at all. --Pestolence^(talk) 23:00, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Delete - It's not crit 1 as these pages can be expanded if TZH chose to. Ask them if they are using them or not. It gets a delete as an unused blank page. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

   Crit 12 doesn't exist and it isn't Crit 13. They are in the right place and not the Main space. Why are you being a hypocrite on this? --– Nubis ^NWO 03:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

2. Speedydelete - clear crit 1, you can't expand nothing, and there's been nothing there since May -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 01:09 13 November 2008 (BST)
3. Speedy Delete - As Boxy. Unless they respond quickly and want them kept. Linkthewindow ^{Talk MCM} 05:42, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Speedydelete --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedily deleted.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

This system sucks! From my talk page:

TZH Subgroup Pages

Hey guys, we are in a transition now, the Disciples pages are still active, we would appreciate it if you guys would leave them up.

Links to active pages:

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Team_Zombie_Hardcore http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Team_Zombie_Hardcore/The_Dhisciples http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Team_Zombie_Hardcore/The_Dhestroyers http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Team_Zombie_Hardcore/Supernauts http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Team_Zombie_Hardcore/Enemies http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/TZH/MSC

Thanks again. --Dhavid Grohl 18:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Undeleted.--– Nubis ^NWO 03:24, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

They said the group is still active and in transition. They know that we want to keep the clutter down and to post the pages when they have decided what they are doing. Why not wait a bit and let them get their shit together before we delete them? What happened to CRIT 12? This is a group subpage. I can't believe people are OK with subpages just being deleted.--– Nubis ^NWO 03:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Level 4 header. What are you doing? It was voted to be speedily deleted and it should be deleted. It'll be very easy to recreate a page without any content. I'm deleting it again. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Crit 1 doesn't make exceptions for group sub pages, and although some latitude should be given to pages with minimal content, a totally blank page, blank for 7 months, still clearly qualifies. If they decide to recreate the pages, then they can do it. It's not like any content is being lost -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:12 14 November 2008 (BST)

isn't there some rule against creating pages that were speedy deleted?? or is that only restoring them in a capacity identical to their previous capacity??--xoxo 13:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Crit 6, however is is superseded by undeletion requests and this, quite frankly, is ridiculous, it's the kind of request that should be served and followed up on. The group leader says the pages are active the pages stay and we pester him to hurry up and add the content that will be there or redelete them a decent amount of time after the undeletion request. That is all.--Karek^maps?! 16:12, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Crit 6 wouldn't apply here, unless they recreated pages that were eligible for speedydeletion again. Notice the "the page is a duplicate of a page that has been deleted from a previous deletion request". If the page is a duplicate, in content or intent, to one that was deleted before, it gets trashed on sight, but no sysop should bother if they recreated the pages with content on them. They've had over a week to use the pages, and they don't list them as active (above), so... gorn -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 21:19 14 November 2008 (BST)

Great meeting of 2007

I have no idea what this is. It appears to be a request to come to a meeting that was broadcast on the radio. Why go when it was broadcast on the radio. Crit 1? Oh, and linked to nowhere. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 17:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Delete - But "[We'll] get ourselves out of quarantine and back at the sick people who locked us in together for their amusement" is genius. --Toejam 20:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Delete - Looks like it was abandoned a year ago. --ZsL 23:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Delete - --Zaphord 05:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Delete - I bet Axe Happy Pappy feels popular. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Delete - Abandoned, and no evidence that anything actually happened. Linkthewindow ^Talk 09:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Delete -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 21:58 7 November 2008 (BST)
7. Delete -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 06:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
8. delete - no content. --WanYao 12:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Move - subpage of User:Axe27, or just delete, it is highly amusing history though and should be preserved for the grandkids though.--xoxo 00:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Done --– Nubis ^NWO 02:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC) Restored since I'm sure that someone ...hmmm.who? ... will argue that 9 deletes /= 3 speedy deletes.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-done - If there are no keeps by this point in time this page has less than a snowball's chance in hell, there is no reason to continue the vote.--Karek^maps?! 16:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

173/navigation and 1st Airbourne/Navigation

Previous incarnations of the The 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team main page, unlinked and abandoned. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Speedy Delete - Crit 1. Linkthewindow ^Talk 13:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Speedy - Crit 1 --JARED^{Play the game} 18:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep - This is actually Crit 12 which is no longer valid. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

   Those aren't separate groups therefore not crit 12. Those aren't really group pages either. One is just a navigation image/page and the other is a misnamed page at best.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

4. Delete - I don't see why we should keep pages for groups when they have made a new one. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 18:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
5. speedy delete - crit 1. --WanYao 12:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Delete - They're unused group subpages, so nuke 'em! -- Cheese 18:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Speedy Delete --– Nubis ^NWO 02:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Done --– Nubis ^NWO 02:17, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

AHLG

1. Keep - an easy abbreviation for the very long username of a regular wiki editor --xoxo 07:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep --Nallan (Talk) 07:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep - I use this lots. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
4. Delete as per crit - Bob makes a sound point. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)
5. Delete - Kill it with fire. The motives of the above voters are highly suspect. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 22:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
6. Delete(Speedily Even) - Nallan more so than AHLG but both should be done away with.--Karek^maps?! 22:40, 24 October 2008 (BST)
7. KeepIronic that this one was kept, dontchathink?--CyberRead240 14:09, 25 October 2008 (BST)
8. Keep - useful and convenient.--Scurley7 14:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)
9. Delete(Speedily Even)Self serving votes of KEEP do not count. That's just insane to think that they would. You can't vote on your own case. User pages should not have a redirect at all. If you can't be arsed to type in the name of a user then just put their page on your watch list and get to it from there. (hell, make a link to it on your user page if you want to get to it quickly) If one user page is going to have a redirect then all user pages should have them and there is no way in hell that will fly. It's not like these are even that complicated of names. These users should not be "special" and above the rules.
   If a redirect is "popular" that means that that user is posting all over the place and that makes it even easier to get to their page. You can not honestly justify the existence of any of these pages including AHLG since you can easily get to his page via links on the Main Page of the wiki (you know, Administration > List of Sysops) There should be no vote on these pages and they should be deleted right away. --– Nubis ^NWO 14:31, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   The voting is completely valid, regardless of who it is or if it comes under a speedy deletion criteria. I'd also like to point out that I created neither AHLG or Gnome but had knowledge of them existing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:36, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   So would you say that deleting the redirects after they had made it off the Speedy Deletions page and on to the Deletions page, citing the Speedy Deletion Crits, and then proceeding to delete links to these particular redirects, would be an act of both vandalism and misconduct?--CyberRead240 14:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   I have an idea for a compromise. Why not make 1 page and list links to all the user pages that people want a "quick link" to? Call the page UHUB (user hub) and let user's add basic text links to their User page. Organize it alphabetically. Just an idea in the works.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

10. Keep - If people are finding these useful, I don't see a need to delete them. --Toejam 18:47, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    So is that a keep for AHLG and no vote for Nallan? Cause only the one has been said to be of any usefulness.--Karek^maps?! 18:51, 25 October 2008 (BST)

11. Delete - We've deleted redirects to user pages before. I see no reason why we should keep them now. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 18:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
12. Keep whichever is useful - I think someone once mentioned that it takes more space making a deletion request and deleting it rather than leaving it alone... but I suppose it's simple housekeeping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:05, 25 October 2008 (BST)
13. Delete - I'm a bitter asshole, and I saw a caturday macro on one of the pages.--Jake4d1 23:24, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    You realise we're voting on the redirects, not the pages themselves? If so then that's a pretty stupid reason to vote delete.--Nallan (Talk) 23:34, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    Yeah, I know.--Jake4d1 01:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

    OK just making sure :) --Nallan (Talk) 01:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

14. Delete - If these guys get redirects, then everyone can get them. And that sounds like a clusterfuck to me.--TheKnockoff 01:29, 26 October 2008 (BST)

    Invalid signature. Feel free to remove strike once fixed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:30 26 October 2008 (BST)

15. Delete - all redirects for user pages in the main namespace. There is enough competition for acronym redirects from groups, we don't need them for every user who has more than a one word name as well. The main namespace is for game info, not user pages -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:26 26 October 2008 (BST)
16. Delete - Cuz they are ugly. Also gold in the basket.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 02:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
17. Delete - Delete em all--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
18. Delete - ÅÅÅÅ --Scoutabout 13:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
19. Delete Useless. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
20. Delete - Again, as everyone else. Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
21. Keep - Kevan? They aren't hurting anyone and are actually rather useful. As a wise man once said "Disc space is cheap". I can't actually remember who said that, but if they are being used, they should be kept. -- Cheese 22:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
22. Keep - I think the best solution would be User:AHLG, but I'm pretty sure that would be considered a deletion workaround if this gets deleted, so Keep. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [510,05]} 10:03, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
23. delete - user pages should stay in user namespace, redirects are not a trick to fool this principle. --~~~~ [talk] 23:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleted--– Nubis ^NWO 13:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Nallan

1. Delete--xoxo 07:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Delete--Nallan (Talk) 07:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
3. Delete as per crit - Bob makes a sound point. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)
4. Delete - Kill it with fire. The motives of the above voters are highly suspect. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 22:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
5. Delete(Speedily Even) - Nallan more so than AHLG but both should be done away with.--Karek^maps?! 22:40, 24 October 2008 (BST)
6. Delete.--CyberRead240 14:09, 25 October 2008 (BST)
7. Keep - useful and convenient.--Scurley7 14:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)
8. Delete(Speedily Even)Self serving votes of KEEP do not count. That's just insane to think that they would. You can't vote on your own case. User pages should not have a redirect at all. If you can't be arsed to type in the name of a user then just put their page on your watch list and get to it from there. (hell, make a link to it on your user page if you want to get to it quickly) If one user page is going to have a redirect then all user pages should have them and there is no way in hell that will fly. It's not like these are even that complicated of names. These users should not be "special" and above the rules.
   If a redirect is "popular" that means that that user is posting all over the place and that makes it even easier to get to their page. You can not honestly justify the existence of any of these pages including AHLG since you can easily get to his page via links on the Main Page of the wiki (you know, Administration > List of Sysops) There should be no vote on these pages and they should be deleted right away. --– Nubis ^NWO 14:31, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   The voting is completely valid, regardless of who it is or if it comes under a speedy deletion criteria. I'd also like to point out that I created neither AHLG or Gnome but had knowledge of them existing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:36, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   So would you say that deleting the redirects after they had made it off the Speedy Deletions page and on to the Deletions page, citing the Speedy Deletion Crits, and then proceeding to delete links to these particular redirects, would be an act of both vandalism and misconduct?--CyberRead240 14:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   I have an idea for a compromise. Why not make 1 page and list links to all the user pages that people want a "quick link" to? Call the page UHUB (user hub) and let user's add basic text links to their User page. Organize it alphabetically. Just an idea in the works.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

   There is already one such page, although I can't seem to recall it's name.--Karek^maps?! 17:50, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

9. Keep - If people are finding these useful, I don't see a need to delete them. --Toejam 18:47, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   So is that a keep for AHLG and no vote for Nallan? Cause only the one has been said to be of any usefulness.--Karek^maps?! 18:51, 25 October 2008 (BST)

10. Delete - We've deleted redirects to user pages before. I see no reason why we should keep them now. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 18:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
11. Keep whichever is useful - I think someone once mentioned that it takes more space making a deletion request and deleting it rather than leaving it alone... but I suppose it's simple housekeeping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:05, 25 October 2008 (BST)
12. Delete - I'm a bitter asshole, and I saw a caturday macro on one of the pages.--Jake4d1 23:24, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    You realise we're voting on the redirects, not the pages themselves? If so then that's a pretty stupid reason to vote delete.--Nallan (Talk) 23:34, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    Yeah, I know.--Jake4d1 01:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

    OK just making sure :) --Nallan (Talk) 01:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

13. Delete - If these guys get redirects, then everyone can get them. And that sounds like a clusterfuck to me.--TheKnockoff 01:29, 26 October 2008 (BST)

    Invalid signature. Feel free to remove strike once fixed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:30 26 October 2008 (BST)

14. Delete - all redirects for user pages in the main namespace. There is enough competition for acronym redirects from groups, we don't need them for every user who has more than a one word name as well. The main namespace is for game info, not user pages -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:26 26 October 2008 (BST)
15. Delete - Cuz they are ugly. Also gold in the basket.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 02:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
16. Delete - Delete em all--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
17. Delete - I hate stuff --Scoutabout 13:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
18. Delete Useless. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
19. Delete - As everyone else. Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
20. delete - user pages should stay in user namespace, redirects are not a trick to fool this principle. --~~~~ [talk] 23:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleted--– Nubis ^NWO 13:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Plans

username --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

city. NA

Plans. Deleting this page as a crit 1.

1. Speedy Delete - Crit 1. --ZsL 23:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Delete - Wow, that's incredible. --JaredV 03:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Speedy Delete - " --Karek^maps?! 03:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Speedy Delete - As everyone else. Linkthewindow ^Talk 05:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Crit 1 - . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
6. SD - D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Delete or, alternatively, keep as a perfect example of a shit page. --Blackboard 11:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Speedily --Karek^maps?! 11:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

J3D

1. Delete--xoxo 07:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Delete--Nallan (Talk) 07:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
3. Delete as per crit - Bob makes a sound point. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)
4. Delete - Kill it with fire. The motives of the above voters are highly suspect. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 22:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
5. Delete(Speedily Even) - Nallan more so than AHLG but both should be done away with.--Karek^maps?! 22:40, 24 October 2008 (BST)
6. kill--CyberRead240 14:09, 25 October 2008 (BST)
7. Keep - useful and convenient.--Scurley7 14:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)
8. Delete(Speedily Even)Self serving votes of KEEP do not count. That's just insane to think that they would. You can't vote on your own case. User pages should not have a redirect at all. If you can't be arsed to type in the name of a user then just put their page on your watch list and get to it from there. (hell, make a link to it on your user page if you want to get to it quickly) If one user page is going to have a redirect then all user pages should have them and there is no way in hell that will fly. It's not like these are even that complicated of names. These users should not be "special" and above the rules.
   If a redirect is "popular" that means that that user is posting all over the place and that makes it even easier to get to their page. You can not honestly justify the existence of any of these pages including AHLG since you can easily get to his page via links on the Main Page of the wiki (you know, Administration > List of Sysops) There should be no vote on these pages and they should be deleted right away. --– Nubis ^NWO 14:31, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   The voting is completely valid, regardless of who it is or if it comes under a speedy deletion criteria. I'd also like to point out that I created neither AHLG or Gnome but had knowledge of them existing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:36, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   So would you say that deleting the redirects after they had made it off the Speedy Deletions page and on to the Deletions page, citing the Speedy Deletion Crits, and then proceeding to delete links to these particular redirects, would be an act of both vandalism and misconduct?--CyberRead240 14:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   I have an idea for a compromise. Why not make 1 page and list links to all the user pages that people want a "quick link" to? Call the page UHUB (user hub) and let user's add basic text links to their User page. Organize it alphabetically. Just an idea in the works.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

9. Keep - If people are finding these useful, I don't see a need to delete them. --Toejam 18:47, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   So is that a keep for AHLG and no vote for Nallan? Cause only the one has been said to be of any usefulness.--Karek^maps?! 18:51, 25 October 2008 (BST)

10. Delete - We've deleted redirects to user pages before. I see no reason why we should keep them now. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 18:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
11. Keep whichever is useful - I think someone once mentioned that it takes more space making a deletion request and deleting it rather than leaving it alone... but I suppose it's simple housekeeping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:05, 25 October 2008 (BST)
12. Delete - I'm a bitter asshole, and I saw a caturday macro on one of the pages.--Jake4d1 23:24, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    You realise we're voting on the redirects, not the pages themselves? If so then that's a pretty stupid reason to vote delete.--Nallan (Talk) 23:34, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    Yeah, I know.--Jake4d1 01:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

    OK just making sure :) --Nallan (Talk) 01:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

13. Delete - If these guys get redirects, then everyone can get them. And that sounds like a clusterfuck to me.--TheKnockoff 01:29, 26 October 2008 (BST)

    Invalid signature. Feel free to remove strike once fixed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:30 26 October 2008 (BST)

14. Delete - all redirects for user pages in the main namespace. There is enough competition for acronym redirects from groups, we don't need them for every user who has more than a one word name as well. The main namespace is for game info, not user pages -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:26 26 October 2008 (BST)
15. Delete - Cuz they are ugly. Also gold in the basket.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 02:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
16. Delete - Delete em all--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
17. Delete - Tis awesome --Scoutabout 13:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
18. Delete - As everyone else. Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Page Doesn't Exist--Karek^maps?! 17:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

DDR

1. Keep - an easy abbreviation for the very long username of a regular wiki editor (should redirect to User:DanceDanceRevolution) --xoxo 07:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep --Nallan (Talk) 07:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
3. Delete as per crit - Bob makes a sound point. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)
4. Delete - Kill it with fire. The motives of the above voters are highly suspect. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 22:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
5. Delete(Speedily Even) - Nallan more so than AHLG but both should be done away with.--Karek^maps?! 22:40, 24 October 2008 (BST)
6. Keep we need acronym redirects for those who care enough to make them for themselves--CyberRead240 14:09, 25 October 2008 (BST)
7. Keep - useful and convenient.--Scurley7 14:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)
8. Delete(Speedily Even)Self serving votes of KEEP do not count. That's just insane to think that they would. You can't vote on your own case. User pages should not have a redirect at all. If you can't be arsed to type in the name of a user then just put their page on your watch list and get to it from there. (hell, make a link to it on your user page if you want to get to it quickly) If one user page is going to have a redirect then all user pages should have them and there is no way in hell that will fly. It's not like these are even that complicated of names. These users should not be "special" and above the rules.
   If a redirect is "popular" that means that that user is posting all over the place and that makes it even easier to get to their page. You can not honestly justify the existence of any of these pages including AHLG since you can easily get to his page via links on the Main Page of the wiki (you know, Administration > List of Sysops) There should be no vote on these pages and they should be deleted right away. --– Nubis ^NWO 14:31, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   The voting is completely valid, regardless of who it is or if it comes under a speedy deletion criteria. I'd also like to point out that I created neither AHLG or Gnome but had knowledge of them existing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:36, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   So would you say that deleting the redirects after they had made it off the Speedy Deletions page and on to the Deletions page, citing the Speedy Deletion Crits, and then proceeding to delete links to these particular redirects, would be an act of both vandalism and misconduct?--CyberRead240 14:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   I have an idea for a compromise. Why not make 1 page and list links to all the user pages that people want a "quick link" to? Call the page UHUB (user hub) and let user's add basic text links to their User page. Organize it alphabetically. Just an idea in the works.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

9. Keep - If people are finding these useful, I don't see a need to delete them. --Toejam 18:47, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   So is that a keep for AHLG and no vote for Nallan? Cause only the one has been said to be of any usefulness.--Karek^maps?! 18:51, 25 October 2008 (BST)

10. Delete - We've deleted redirects to user pages before. I see no reason why we should keep them now. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 18:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
11. Keep whichever is useful - I think someone once mentioned that it takes more space making a deletion request and deleting it rather than leaving it alone... but I suppose it's simple housekeeping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:05, 25 October 2008 (BST)
12. Delete - I'm a bitter asshole, and I saw a caturday macro on one of the pages.--Jake4d1 23:24, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    You realise we're voting on the redirects, not the pages themselves? If so then that's a pretty stupid reason to vote delete.--Nallan (Talk) 23:34, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    Yeah, I know.--Jake4d1 01:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

    OK just making sure :) --Nallan (Talk) 01:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

13. Delete - If these guys get redirects, then everyone can get them. And that sounds like a clusterfuck to me.--TheKnockoff 01:29, 26 October 2008 (BST)

    Invalid signature. Feel free to remove strike once fixed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:30 26 October 2008 (BST)

14. Delete - all redirects for user pages in the main namespace. There is enough competition for acronym redirects from groups, we don't need them for every user who has more than a one word name as well. The main namespace is for game info, not user pages -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:26 26 October 2008 (BST)
15. Delete - Cuz they are ugly. Also gold in the basket.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 02:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
16. Delete - Delete em all--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
17. Delete - the voices made me do it. --Scoutabout 12:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
18. Delete - As everyone else. No user redirects in the main space. Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
19. Keep - Kevan? They aren't hurting anyone and are actually rather useful. As a wise man once said "Disc space is cheap". I can't actually remember who said that, but if they are being used, they should be kept. -- Cheese 22:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

    When DDR owns or is a relevant part of the development of the game, then I will agree with you. As for the "wise" man who said that, he held the deletion page hostage by threatening to backlog the deletion queue at the same time he said that. People forget that little fact. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 22:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

20. Keep - I think the best solution would be User:DDR, but I'm pretty sure that would be considered a deletion workaround if this gets deleted, so Keep. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [510,05]} 10:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Page doesn't exist-Karek^maps?! 17:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Ron Burgundy

1. Delete--xoxo 07:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep --Nallan (Talk) 07:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
3. Delete as per crit - Bob makes a sound point. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)
4. Delete - Kill it with fire. The motives of the above voters are highly suspect. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 22:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
5. Delete(Speedily Even) - Nallan more so than AHLG but both should be done away with.--Karek^maps?! 22:40, 24 October 2008 (BST)
6. Delete.--CyberRead240 14:09, 25 October 2008 (BST)
7. Keep - useful and convenient.--Scurley7 14:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)
8. Delete(Speedily Even)Self serving votes of KEEP do not count. That's just insane to think that they would. You can't vote on your own case. User pages should not have a redirect at all. If you can't be arsed to type in the name of a user then just put their page on your watch list and get to it from there. (hell, make a link to it on your user page if you want to get to it quickly) If one user page is going to have a redirect then all user pages should have them and there is no way in hell that will fly. It's not like these are even that complicated of names. These users should not be "special" and above the rules.
   If a redirect is "popular" that means that that user is posting all over the place and that makes it even easier to get to their page. You can not honestly justify the existence of any of these pages including AHLG since you can easily get to his page via links on the Main Page of the wiki (you know, Administration > List of Sysops) There should be no vote on these pages and they should be deleted right away. --– Nubis ^NWO 14:31, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   The voting is completely valid, regardless of who it is or if it comes under a speedy deletion criteria. I'd also like to point out that I created neither AHLG or Gnome but had knowledge of them existing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:36, 24 October 2008 (BST)

   So would you say that deleting the redirects after they had made it off the Speedy Deletions page and on to the Deletions page, citing the Speedy Deletion Crits, and then proceeding to delete links to these particular redirects, would be an act of both vandalism and misconduct?--CyberRead240 14:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   I have an idea for a compromise. Why not make 1 page and list links to all the user pages that people want a "quick link" to? Call the page UHUB (user hub) and let user's add basic text links to their User page. Organize it alphabetically. Just an idea in the works.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

9. Keep - If people are finding these useful, I don't see a need to delete them. --Toejam 18:47, 25 October 2008 (BST)

   So is that a keep for AHLG and no vote for Nallan? Cause only the one has been said to be of any usefulness.--Karek^maps?! 18:51, 25 October 2008 (BST)

10. Delete - We've deleted redirects to user pages before. I see no reason why we should keep them now. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 18:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
11. Keep whichever is useful - I think someone once mentioned that it takes more space making a deletion request and deleting it rather than leaving it alone... but I suppose it's simple housekeeping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:05, 25 October 2008 (BST)
12. Delete - I'm a bitter asshole, and I saw a caturday macro on one of the pages.--Jake4d1 23:24, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    You realise we're voting on the redirects, not the pages themselves? If so then that's a pretty stupid reason to vote delete.--Nallan (Talk) 23:34, 25 October 2008 (BST)

    Yeah, I know.--Jake4d1 01:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

    OK just making sure :) --Nallan (Talk) 01:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

13. Delete - If these guys get redirects, then everyone can get them. And that sounds like a clusterfuck to me.--TheKnockoff 01:29, 26 October 2008 (BST)

    Invalid signature. Feel free to remove strike once fixed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:30 26 October 2008 (BST)

14. Delete - all redirects for user pages in the main namespace. There is enough competition for acronym redirects from groups, we don't need them for every user who has more than a one word name as well. The main namespace is for game info, not user pages -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:26 26 October 2008 (BST)
15. Delete - Cuz they are ugly. Also gold in the basket.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 02:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
16. Delete - Delete em all--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
17. Delete - I like to delete shit. --Scoutabout 13:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
18. Delete - As the others. Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
19. Keep - Kevan? They aren't hurting anyone and are actually rather useful. As a wise man once said "Disc space is cheap". I can't actually remember who said that, but if they are being used, they should be kept. -- Cheese 22:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Page doesn't exist-Karek^maps?! 17:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Central Monreoville Map 2

Incomplete/abandoned/information duplicated at Central Monroeville/Map --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

1. Speedy Delete Meh, a duplicate. Just change it into a redirect into the main one.Linkthewindow ^Talk 00:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Crit 1 - . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Speedy Delete Duplicate. --Zaphord 00:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
4. SD as above D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

So I guess it's SD time? Linkthewindow ^Talk 10:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Nuked from existence -- Cheese 18:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Cities

This page is an advertisement for another game but it is not one made by Kevan. Therefore, I think it does not belong on this wiki.--SirArgo ^Talk 16:49, 18 October 2008 (BST)

1. Delete --SirArgo ^Talk 16:49, 18 October 2008 (BST)
2. Keep - It was up for sd in '06 but I think that link has actually been around here longer than I have. --Karek^maps?! 18:19, 18 October 2008 (BST)
3. Delete They can add themselves to "external links" or "related games" or whatever.... But having a whole page is a big no. --WanYao 18:01, 20 October 2008 (BST)

   There are many similar pages to that one.--Karek^maps?! 19:36, 20 October 2008 (BST)

   Can you name any? They should probably get moved too. Linkthewindow ^Talk 21:33, 20 October 2008 (BST)

   No, they shouldn't, for the same reason why Midianian's link/vote is ridiculous; It's a category full of pages(a portal) and it's easier on everyone if it is left the way it is. If someone is looking for similar/related games it is a player resource to provide that information and nothing good comes of changing the way they are now to make it harder on the players/users, if Kevan had issue with it he would have dealt with it(if he doesn't know inform him to see if he does).--Karek^maps?! 19:13, 21 October 2008 (BST)

4. Merge to Category:Related Games. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 19:42, 20 October 2008 (BST)

   Just to clarify, this is mostly because it's six lines long and has apparently been like that for two years now. It doesn't need its own page even if it deserved it, which I don't think it does as it only shares some gameplay similarities to Urban Dead. --Midianian^|T|DS|C:RCS| 19:35, 21 October 2008 (BST)

5. keep - Sure--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:54, 20 October 2008 (BST)
6. Delete and Merge as Argo and Midian. Having a whole page for a non-Kevan game is a waste of space. Linkthewindow ^Talk 21:33, 20 October 2008 (BST)
7. Merge, as others who said merge. - User:Whitehouse 20:22, 21 October 2008 (BST)
8. Delete that game sucks worse than nexus war, and possibly even scroll wars.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 21:26, 21 October 2008 (BST)
9. Merge - Nothing sucks worse than Scroll Wars. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 22:25, 21 October 2008 (BST)
10. Keep. Underdog vote for the win. Cities rocks. It is similar and made by folks who play UD. --Adrian Jeshua ^{EN | T} 03:09, 22 October 2008 (BST)
11. Keep Why kill off or bury a cross promo link that could encourage UD players to go there and bring back new blood? Go chuck a UD page on their wiki if it bothers you lot. TEH NETWORKZ SHUD BE FREE AN OPN! --Zeug 04:48, 22 October 2008 (BST)

    My main argument is that it's not serving a purpose in having an entire page devoted to it. This is because it's not a game created by Kevan and because the page is in total disarray. I don't think it's attracting any users from the game either and I don't think we have many people from the wiki joining Cities because of the page.--SirArgo ^Talk 04:53, 22 October 2008 (BST)

    Yeh it is an ugly page but it's more the principle, why go about deleting links to related games communities outside this network? Why denude the network? As for traffic, well this deletions thread is advertising the page and Cities nicely, I'd bet there's a couple of UD players signed up there already to check it out. You could invite the creators to fix the page and place a UD advert on their wiki ... Or not bother and just delete it.--Zeug 05:03, 22 October 2008 (BST)

    So fix up the page and bring it up to standard instead of wiping it from the wiki for all eternity due to laziness. Hell, hassle one of the voters that plays it until they do it for all I care.--Karek^maps?! 21:04, 22 October 2008 (BST)

12. Merge it with the above relevant category. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:38, 22 October 2008 (BST)
13. Delete -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 08:17 22 October 2008 (BST)
14. Delete - Age is no excuse and there is no compelling argument on this page. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 10:09, 22 October 2008 (BST)
15. Not Voting; biased - Hi, I'm the lead developer of cities, and I'd rather be friendly. We've picked up a few players over the years from this wiki, and are happy to cross pollinate. In the interests of friendlyness, I've knocked up http://wiki.cities.totl.net/index.php/Influences on our wiki (not yet linked in, but will be soon), to give fair and due props to urban dead. Cities is a friendly little cul-de-sac of a game, with only about 500 active users. It's run completely for fun and all costs are absorbed by the admins. It's probably distinctive in MMORPGs that it has more type of object than players. Over 1800 types of item last time I checked. I would appreciate the link remaining, as we tend to get a few quiet types who drift over when zombie apocalypse gets to much and they want a quiet, cheery sort of game. So I'd urge you to vote to keep the link, as it helps our community, and doesn't hurt yours. And the page is linked from, Category:Related_Games, which is a link from your wiki frontpage. To be honest, I can't see any reason not to merge it, as it's clearly another "inspired by", probably the oldest as urban dead was very new when I started on cities. If you want the stats, we recently celebrated the 3rd anniversary of leaving beta, and have 9843 registerd accounts of which about 500 played in the last week. The code-base stands at around 145,000 lines of code. And we've raised over 1000 pounds for charity by selling various boons and items. (an idea well worth you guys stealing) Elseware 02:08, 23 October 2008 (BST)
16. Keep --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 02:51, 23 October 2008 (BST)
17. keep Elsewares reasonableness convinced me!--Honestmistake 13:56, 23 October 2008 (BST)
18. Merge/Delete - Move it to Category:Related_Games, just like the others. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 21:33, 23 October 2008 (BST)
19. Merge - As Akule. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:06, 23 October 2008 (BST)
20. Merge - As Akule (and Gnome) --Pdeq^Talk* 22:39, 23 October 2008 (BST)
21. Merge! Merge them all!--xoxo 00:23, 24 October 2008 (BST)
22. Merge-As Midinian.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Яed Яum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 21:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Merged --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

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