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| Basically the same thing as [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling/Archive#Unused_images|last time]], and with the same reasoning, except with 2 weeks' leeway instead of 1. I have yet to see any image go unused for more than 2 weeks that didn't also make it to a month without being linked somewhere. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 13:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''No''' Same as last time, same response. One week extra doesn't cut it for me. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 14:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
| | '''Passed''' with 12 for and 10 against.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 05:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC) |
| #:then die {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 14:54, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::What's that Bob, a death threat? Off to A/VB with you then! --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 15:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::hm yase a death threat. thats exactly what it was; a literal threat for your literal death posted on a wiki. on a page for the deletion of 1's and 0's. u r smert {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::It's amusing to see how serious you take me sometimes. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' - Two weeks is more reasonable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 15:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yea''' - Two weeks sounds good to me.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yea''' - As above. One week is really short. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 18:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''<s>Yea</s> No''' - <s>Seems reasonable as an expected implementation time-frame, and may prompt people to concentrate on finishing what they start.</s> Fail user is fail. I should have read the existing policy, and a month strikes me as fine for a ceiling. -[[User:Wulfenbach|Wulfenbach]] 19:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:I've been deleting these things for months and I can tell you that it is not fine. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::...and I thank you (seriously) for your work on it, but what are the technical drawbacks of letting it go to one month rather than half that time? Is the wiki running out of storage space? Why the rush to delete? -[[User:Wulfenbach|Wulfenbach]] 11:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::If we followed that kind of reasoning when the wiki was first made we would not have A/SD. "Disk space = cheep" is not a good enough reason for anything. This is a ''compromise'' from my last proposal that would still see the amount of wastage severely reduced. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 11:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::I'm sorry, Bob, but having just read the A/SD policy, I cannot see how my reasoning/example/request for clarification leads to NOT having A/SD. If anything, I can see the deletion of unlinked pictures after a given timeframe as being a A/SD criterion. The issue as I understand it is why 2 weeks? Why 1 week? Why 1 month? Why is it better to delete after 2 weeks than one month? You've said that in your experience it is common for a picture that is unlinked for two weeks is likely to remain unlinked. What's the frequency of this then? 9/10? 6/10? I believe you in that in your experience, the above is true. I just would like to see some empirical evidence. -[[User:Wulfenbach|Wulfenbach]] 11:34, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::Ask [[User:J3D|Jed]] how the wiki would go out for hours because the server was getting full of data. If we can push the nuke date back a little while farther by getting rid of images people don't use then hell yes.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 11:37, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::That's a complete strawman argument, new images that are being linked and therefore won't be subject to this are added to the wiki everyday. That's an argument to increase server space, not delete unwanted images quicker. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::It's actually an argument to do both. Yay! {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 11:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::::Don't worry Bob, I'm about to make all your troubles go away. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:57, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::How the fuck can I give you empirical evidence when ''they're all deleted''? Get back to me with a request which can ''actually'' be granted, thanks. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::Eh, I think you can, but it'd be ''actual'' work to do so, likely more than it's worth. I'll not bother with stating the method, due to the previous statement, unless you challenge/want me to, then I'll dump it on your talk page then. It'd be normal experimental design, I would think. Regardless, the point about a reasonable request is noted. My statement about competing opinions/experience stands, I would think, not that much can be done about it. Popularity contests here aren't just for A/M;A/A;A/P;etc.-[[User:Wulfenbach|Wulfenbach]] 11:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yea''' indeed --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''No''' - As [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling/Archive#Unused_images|last time]]. Once images are gone, they can't be retrieved. It doesn't happen often, but they can become unused without anyone noticing via vandalism, or pages that get deleted and are later requested for undeletion <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:59 26 November 2009 (BST)</small>
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| #:By "doesn't happen often" you mean "has never happened in the history of the wiki", right? You're theorycrafting ridiculously implausible situations for the sake of being contrary. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::Well, Hagnat, at least, has lost images from one of his old group pages, when Conn SDed it, and then immediately schedule deleted the images. I don't see the need for this, apart from you wanting the unused image list to be ''slightly'' shorter. Meh <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:16 28 November 2009 (BST)</small>
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| #:::If by "slightly" you mean "nearly cut in half" then I agree. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::So what's the big deal with that boxy? If they're in need of being used in the future, just make the request for undeletion, or reupload them. Doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 18:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::Can't undelete images. Can reupload, though the whole "may not have the file any more to upload" poses a problem. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 09:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::If you don't keep a copy of ''anything'' you upload to any Internet site on your harddrive then you're doing it wrong. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''No''' - As Boxy, I see absolutely no reason why they need to go in two weeks rather than a month. Perhaps the server is straining under the weight of unused images that are three weeks old.... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 03:14, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yesh''' - Better time duration. --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 03:39, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yea''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 04:02, 27 November 2009 (BST)
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| #'''Nay''' - As those above. Unless there is a pressing reason for why it needs to be changed, I don't see a need for this change. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:28, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:The last time I brought this up there were roughly 50 unused images on the list. There are now 90. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::90 is an awfully... pointless... number without a sense of scale. Would you like to share with the boys and girls what percentage of all the images on the wiki '90' is? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::Much less than 1%, much, much less <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:31 28 November 2009 (BST)</small>
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| #::::Tell me why this is a rebuttal to anything again? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' I don't know about other people,... but I try to link to an image first, then upload it to prevent my images from being unused. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 18:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''No''' Month seems fine to me, what is the need to change?--[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 22:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''No''' Same reason as before --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 22:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''No''' - The last edit merely indicates a "ceiling" on the time when an image was likely to have last been used on a page. Since it's acting as a ceiling, not a floor, there's every reason to be liberal in how much time is allowed. It'll rarely get in the way anyway, I should think. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:What are you talking about? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::Think we've found a new candidate for "worst wording of 2009" since Hag left. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 10:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::what is this i dont even--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 11:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::I know exactly what he's talking about.... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::Even half dead I think I get it too. I was saying that in response to DDR thinking ANYTHING could EVER come close to beating hag's record for mauling the English language the way he can. :) --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 11:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::I'm sure one of you will get around to explaining to poor old dumb Cyberbob eventually. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 11:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::He's saying that just because an image shows up on the unused image list, and was uploaded more than a month ago, it doesn't mean that it wasn't potentially used on a page only minutes ago. The upload date is the "ceiling"... the time it was likely first used on a page, the "floor", the last time it was used, is anytime since then, potentially only minutes ago <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:31 28 November 2009 (BST)</small>
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| #::::::::Moved to the [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling#Unused Images|talk page]]. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Nay''' [[User:Standard Zombie|Standard Zombie]] 15:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:Would you care to share why? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::Reasons are not required in scheduling votes in order to be valid. Would you care to stop badgering the majority of those disagreeing with you? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 15:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::Text on an internet page is literally reaching out from the screen and physically forcing you to type... nooo.... {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::How many three week old unused images are there? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 15:57, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::Right as of this moment (it's a fluid number for obvious reasons), about 20 or so. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::Liar. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::Er, there were the last time I checked. This isn't really your best "gotcha" moment as I would have no reason to lie about something so easily checked. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::::''"Right as of this moment"'' is a very definitive statement. The answer to the question is: ''none''. There are no three week old unused images. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::::You should probably not talk any more. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::::[[User:Iscariot/Noah's_Boat|That's just cheating Issy]]. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::::Oh, an image ark! You should probably know that I don't actually count those as "uses" for images - particularly not when you're clearly only doing it to try and get [MOTION SUBMITTED BY CYBERBOB] denied. So they will still be getting deleted. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::::::Image arks don't count? I think you'll find they do, that's what they're for. Go for it, write your own massive misconduct case, now or February, it doesn't matter to me when you get demoted. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::::::You think I actually care, or that if I didn't go through with this I'd be demoted in February? Lol. I'd actually take more pleasure in seeing you proven wrong on the latter point than the former. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #::::::::::::Keep talking, those images are used, and you know it. Deleting an image that is not subject to deletion by vote, speedy or scheduled will get you a misconduct escalation each and every time you you do it. You are aware that image arks count as images being in use and have indicated as much. We'll see whether you are posturing or not tomorrow. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:14, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::::::::I'm sorry, you don't seem to actually be aware of the difference in meaning between the words "latter" and "former". Would you like for me to rectify your sorry lack of knowledge about the English language? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:::::::::::OMG! Placing all the unused images in an user space archive page to make such a chickenshit point? lol <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 16:15 28 November 2009 (BST)</small>
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| #:::Considering the vast majority of your recent edits are blatant trolling you should probably try listening to your own advice. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 15:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #I'm going to say '''no''' on this occasion. As Boxy said, we can't restore the images once they're gone. If this was fixed then I'd have no problem with this. For now though, I think a month is fine. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:20, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #:Why does having the length of time set at a month alleviate the "problem" (which is really just a matter someone being too stupid to not keep a copy of the images they upload on their computer) any more than having it at two weeks? People throw around this "ohhhh gosh can't undelete em!" line but nobody has explained why this would make it any ''worse''. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' This isn't an image host. If an image isn't used in 2 weeks it probably isn't going to be used again. And to those whining about the image being lost if it deleted, then if it is so fucking important the person that uploaded it should have a fucking copy of it still. --[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px]] '''[[User:DCC/Suggestions|#99]]''' <sup>''[[User:DCC|DCC]] ''</sup> 09:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' This^ --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 22:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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| #'''Yes''' - [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_mirror_or_a_repository_of_links.2C_images.2C_or_media_files|As usual, Wikipedia saves me from typing things]]. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 11:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Passed''' with 10 '''Yeas''' to 7 '''Nays'''.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 05:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC) | | '''Passed''' with 10 '''Yeas''' to 7 '''Nays'''.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 05:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC) |
