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::Apart of the question of the severity of nationality information, I considered my reveal well within point 6. Ban evasion counts as a serious breach of UDWiki policy, and in that A/VB case it was valid and important supplementary information for establishing that it was a ban evasion alt by Cornholioo. KG being from the same place as CH was a piece of evidence pointing towards ban evasion. If KG's location hadn't matched, it would have been strong evidence against ban evasion. Thus, it was relevant to an administrative task. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 02:47, 29 September 2013 (BST)
::Apart of the question of the severity of nationality information, I considered my reveal well within point 6. Ban evasion counts as a serious breach of UDWiki policy, and in that A/VB case it was valid and important supplementary information for establishing that it was a ban evasion alt by Cornholioo. KG being from the same place as CH was a piece of evidence pointing towards ban evasion. If KG's location hadn't matched, it would have been strong evidence against ban evasion. Thus, it was relevant to an administrative task. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 02:47, 29 September 2013 (BST)
:::Ok, I'm convinced. '''Not misconduct.''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:22, 29 September 2013 (BST)
:::Ok, I'm convinced. '''Not misconduct.''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:22, 29 September 2013 (BST)
 
::::Although the case is already over, here is some supplementary precedent that I couldn't put my finger on until today: [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2011_09#User:Sage_of_Winds|September 2011 case against Sage of Winds on account of being a ban evasion account of Izumi Orimoto]]. In this case, the necessary checkuser information about a suspected evasion alt was leaked too, but it turned out to actually prove that this isn't ban evasion. Funny how people don't put you on misconduct when the very same leaking of checkuser data helps to save their bacons. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 13:52, 29 September 2013 (BST)
It's standard procedure to release the necessary, relevant information we need for discussing the case, since otherwise we'd have no way to engage in a meaningful discussion, and as much as possible, we try to reach each other off-wiki when it comes to this sort of stuff, but we don't have any pre-arranged, out-of-band means of communication as sysops, such as a secret board or secret page on the wiki, which means that sometimes it's simply necessary to discuss such stuff in the open. Even so, when such a thing is done, it should clearly be kept to the minimum necessary, and Spider did so here, since he could have easily gotten a lot more specific in why this looks like it's Corn based on the IP address, yet he kept it as generic as possible. '''Not Misconduct'''. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:40, 29 September 2013 (BST)
It's standard procedure to release the necessary, relevant information we need for discussing the case, since otherwise we'd have no way to engage in a meaningful discussion, and as much as possible, we try to reach each other off-wiki when it comes to this sort of stuff, but we don't have any pre-arranged, out-of-band means of communication as sysops, such as a secret board or secret page on the wiki, which means that sometimes it's simply necessary to discuss such stuff in the open. Even so, when such a thing is done, it should clearly be kept to the minimum necessary, and Spider did so here, since he could have easily gotten a lot more specific in why this looks like it's Corn based on the IP address, yet he kept it as generic as possible. '''Not Misconduct'''. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:40, 29 September 2013 (BST)



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Administration Services

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This page is for the reporting of administrator (sysop) misconduct within the Urban Dead wiki. Sysops are trusted with a considerable number of powers, many of which have the capacity to be abused. In many circumstances, it is possible for a sysop to cause considerable havoc. As such, users are provided this page to report misconduct from the System Operators. For consistency and accountability, sysops also adhere to the guidelines listed here.

Guidelines for System Operator Misconduct Reporting

The charge of Administrative Misconduct is a grave charge indeed. If misconduct occurs, it is important that the rest of the sysop team be able to review the charges as necessary. Any charge of administrative misconduct must be backed up with evidence. The clearest evidence that can be provided for administrative misconduct is a clear discrepancy between the relevant action log (deletion, block, or protection log) and the archives of the relevant administration service page, and this is a minimum standard of evidence admitted in such a tribunal.

Misconduct is primarily related to specific Administrator Services, not standards of behavior. As such, situations including verbal attacks by sysops, while frowned upon, do not constitute misconduct. Sysops on a wiki are in theory supposed to have no more authority than a regular user - they merely have a greater scope of power. Personality conflicts between sysops and regular users should be treated just as a personality conflict between two regular users. If, in the course of such a conflict, a sysop abuses their administrative powers by banning a user, blocking or deleting a page without due process, that is misconduct, and should be reported to this page.

There is, however, an exception to this rule - excessive bullying, or attempts to treat the status of sysop as a badge of authority to force a sysop's wishes on the wiki may also come under misconduct. Any accusations of this should come with just as clear evidence, and for such an action to be declared misconduct, there should be a clear pattern of behavior across a considerable period of time.

All discussion of misconduct should occur on this page, not the talk page - any discussion on the talk page will be merged into this page once discovered. Once a misconduct case has been declared closed, a member of the sysop team other than the sysop named in the case will mete out the punishment (if deemed necessary), and then move the case to the Archive.

Administrative Abilities

For future reference, the following are sysop specific abilities (ie things that sysops can do that regular users cannot):

  • Deletion (ie complete removal, as opposed to blanking) of pages (including Images and any other page-like construct on this wiki), through the delete tab on the top of any deletable construct.
  • Undeletion (ie returning a page, complete with page history) of pages (including any other page-like construct on this wiki (Images are not included as deletion of an image is not undoable), through the undelete tab on the top of any undeletable construct
  • Protection of pages (ie removing the ability of regular users to edit or move a particular page), through the protect tab on the top of any protectable construct.
  • Moving of pages (ie changing a page complete with the page's history to a different namespace).
  • Warning users reported in Vandal Banning.
  • Banning of Users (ie removing the ability of a specific user to edit the wiki), through the Block User page.
  • Editing of Protected pages by any means.
  • Research IP activity using the CheckUser extension.
  • (Bureaucrats Only) Promotion (providing the above abilities) of User to Sysop/Bureaucrat status.

If none of the above abilities were abused and the case doesn't apply for the exception mentioned above, then this is a case for UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration or UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning.

Example of Misconduct Proceedings

Sysop seems to have deleted Bad Page, but I can't find it in the Archives of either the Deletion or Speedy Deletion pages. The Logs show a deletion at 18:06, October 24th 2005 by a System Operator, but this does not seem to be backed up by a request for that deletion. I would like to know why this is the case -- Reporter 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)

The deletion was asked through my talk page. I give my Talk page as proof of this. -- Sysop 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
It looks like the page that was deleted did not belong to the requesting user, so you were in no position to delete it on sight. -- Reporter 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
You know the rules, Sysop. All deletion requests have to go through the Speedy Delete page. Next time, please inform the user where they should lodge the request. This is a clear violation, will you accept a one-day ban as punishment? -- Sysop2 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
I'm not liking it, but I clearly broke the rules, I'll accept the ban. I'll certainly remember due process next time... Sysop 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
As punishment for failing to follow due process, Sysop has been banned for a period of 24 hours. This will be moved to the Archive shortly. -- Sysop2 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)

Before Reporting Misconduct

Due to a the growing number of Non-Misconduct cases popping up on this page the Administration Staff has decided to compile a basic summary of what has been viewed as Not Misconduct in the past. Please read over UDWiki:Misconduct and make sure that what you are reporting is in fact misconduct before filing a report here.

Cases made to further personal disputes should never be made here, harassment of any user through administration pages may result in vandal escalations. Despite their unique status this basic protection does still apply to Sysops.

Misconduct Cases Currently Under Consideration

User:Spiderzed

Reavling my nationality which he obtained through being a sysop. A normal user would not be able to know my nationality.

As this page says: "clear cut cases would be: -Violation of the UDWiki:Privacy policy through revealing personal information gained through privileged means."

This Privacy policy describes as following:

"Data gathered through server logs or administrators' IP checks will only be released in the following situations:- 1. In response to a valid subpoena or other compulsory request from law enforcement. 2. With the permission of the affected user. 3. To the owner of the server, his legal counsel, or his designee, when necessary for investigation of abuse complaints. 4. Where the information pertains to page views generated by a spider or bot and its dissemination is necessary to illustrate or resolve technical issues. 5. Where the user has been vandalising articles or persistently behaving in a disruptive way, data may be released to assist in the targeting of IP blocks, or to assist in the formulation of a complaint to relevant Internet Service Providers 6. Where it is reasonably necessary to protect the rights, property or safety of the Urban Dead wiki, its users or the public."

The gathered data in this case, is my nationality, which he published to the public in the link at the top of this misconduct.

The situations described above (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6) are not applicable in this case. Therefore, this is misconduct. Rabbi✡Korngold 15:48, 28 september 2013 (BST)

I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinking: "Were there six exceptions that didn't apply or only five?" Now to tell you the truth, I forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this is a Ban Evasion charge, the most powerful verdict on UDWiki, which will blow you head clean off, you've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? -- Spiderzed 16:16, 28 September 2013 (BST)
While Corngold is obviously in the wrong, you could have just as easily revealed that Corngold and Cornhole were from the same country without actually naming it. Sadistic nazi asshats have rights too, you know. --VVV RPGMBCWS 20:17, 28 September 2013 (BST)
Next time get his address, Spider.--RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!20:45, 28 September 2013 (BST)
It is common knowledge on this wiki that Cornholioo was Dutch, which he has also stated himself repeatedly. Saying that the two users share the same country wouldn't really have improved the situation. -- Spiderzed 20:47, 28 September 2013 (BST)

Not misconduct - NEXT! -- boxy 23:17, 28 September 2013 (BST)

Not Misconduct - NEW LOOK! --Rosslessness 00:00, 29 September 2013 (BST)

OK, I'll admit I'm not convinced. My first reaction would be to rule this as not misconduct, due to the nature of the accuser, but that's not really a reason to dismiss the case. I think it hinges on point 6 above - has Cornholioo been such a consistent menace to the UDWiki community that he has forfeited typical rights and been deemed a threat to the safety (i.e. continued functional operation) of UDWiki? (The other points aren't really relevant.) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:54, 29 September 2013 (BST)

That consideration is irrelevant because there's no confirmation that it's CH. However, Spider didn't reveal anything worthy of misconduct. The nationality of users has been brought up tons in the past without any issues (thinking the "is grim aus" screenshot in particular and the cyberbob v DDR saga). This is a ridiculous case and when you as a user are trying to goad sysops in to technically infringe the rules in order to misconduct them, you consent to the breach of your wiki-rights. This should in no way be misconduct.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 02:04, 29 September 2013 (BST)
Apart of the question of the severity of nationality information, I considered my reveal well within point 6. Ban evasion counts as a serious breach of UDWiki policy, and in that A/VB case it was valid and important supplementary information for establishing that it was a ban evasion alt by Cornholioo. KG being from the same place as CH was a piece of evidence pointing towards ban evasion. If KG's location hadn't matched, it would have been strong evidence against ban evasion. Thus, it was relevant to an administrative task. -- Spiderzed 02:47, 29 September 2013 (BST)
Ok, I'm convinced. Not misconduct. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:22, 29 September 2013 (BST)
Although the case is already over, here is some supplementary precedent that I couldn't put my finger on until today: September 2011 case against Sage of Winds on account of being a ban evasion account of Izumi Orimoto. In this case, the necessary checkuser information about a suspected evasion alt was leaked too, but it turned out to actually prove that this isn't ban evasion. Funny how people don't put you on misconduct when the very same leaking of checkuser data helps to save their bacons. -- Spiderzed 13:52, 29 September 2013 (BST)

It's standard procedure to release the necessary, relevant information we need for discussing the case, since otherwise we'd have no way to engage in a meaningful discussion, and as much as possible, we try to reach each other off-wiki when it comes to this sort of stuff, but we don't have any pre-arranged, out-of-band means of communication as sysops, such as a secret board or secret page on the wiki, which means that sometimes it's simply necessary to discuss such stuff in the open. Even so, when such a thing is done, it should clearly be kept to the minimum necessary, and Spider did so here, since he could have easily gotten a lot more specific in why this looks like it's Corn based on the IP address, yet he kept it as generic as possible. Not Misconduct. Aichon 03:40, 29 September 2013 (BST)

Conclusion

Not Misconduct, as stated by 4 of the 5 sysops not involved in the case (the other having not spoken up yet). Aichon 03:40, 29 September 2013 (BST)

Concluded Misconduct Cases

Check the Archive for concluded Misconduct cases.