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Red Hawk One

Red Hawk One (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Hello,

I have actively contributed to the wiki since July 2009, and have worked intermittently since early 2009. In this time I was the driving force behind completing the BIC (as documented here and in my contributions), and partially behind the recent revival in demerging locations pages (as evidenced in the prior link, as well as the previous three month's A/SD records). I often follow A/SD, A/PT, and A/MR, although as a regular user I am currently unable to really do anything on those pages. So far as I can tell, I have made no enemies, and am polite and professional in my conduct with other users. For these reasons, I wish to run for sysop, in order to better maintain the wiki as an information source for the game.

Thank you,

--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 05:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - Demonstrates an interest in the wiki and how it works. Shows no issues with drama or poor handling of drama. A good janitor. The more of these users we have, the better. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 07:10, 31 October 2009 (BST)
• Vouch - Beep boop Cyberbob  Talk  07:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against - No involvement in administrative or policy pages. There's no need for you to have sysop powers in order to remain a valuable contributor to the wiki. --WanYao 08:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Like I said, I'd need to know how you react in a hostile situation before I could approve of you. We've always had too many strictly janitor sysops and not enough judges to judge the damned and stuff. Fuck I'm not even sure what I was going to say anymore.-- SA 09:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against - Unless he stays away from the drama sections. --Thadeous Oakley 09:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch however, Question. What would you do with your sysops powers, and why do you need them? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

  Question answered on my talk page if anyone wants to read the response. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Abstain - I'd vouch you straight out of the gate, but you need more drama experience. Argh, why are all the people I want as sysops runnign at the same time!--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 11:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against If Sysop status just gave you the ability to tidy things up easier I would vouch. It doesn't though, it also calls upon you to make fine judgements about vandals, misconduct etc... and for that people should have at least some evidence of how you would exercise that judgement. In otherwords.... get some experience in the areas that show your judgemnt. --Honestmistake 11:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Exremely Weak Vouch - You've done ALOT of work for this wiki, but if you want to get strong supports, you should get on more admin pages. --Haliman - Talk 13:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Abstain - While doing a lot for the wiki, i must agree with Honestmistake about vandals, and misconduct. I will say i log in a lot and on Recent Changes you have done quiet a bit of work. -- 
  •   Timmah!  
  •   Talk  
  14:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch--Winman1 21:09, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Abstain - Who? Also, what's with all the sudden flood of Sysop bids? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 04:49, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

  They all felt like now would be the best time to run. It's not like the amount should change your opinion of whether someone deserves 'ops or not.-- SA 04:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

  I abstained because I've never met the guy and know nothing about him, and am therefore unqualified to judge his character or usefulness as a sysop. It is wierd that there are so many bids though. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:39, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• No' who the fuck are you even, I dont even know even what are you right? So bad.--CyberRead240 05:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - Knows what he's doing, has made plenty of good contributions and is able to be critical without being a douche. Great user and would make a great sysop.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 14:18, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - You don't need extra buttons to do what you do. You don't need extra buttons to improve the wiki. I don't want you to have extra buttons because I have no idea of how you're going to act when you get on A/VB or A/M. This notion that people who implement new systems and templates on the wiki will make good sysops is simply idiotic, they either make a mess of rulings or they just stick their heads in the sand and ignore these pages even when they are required. We already have two drama adverse sysops simply taking up space on the roster, I don't want more that will leave ruling in the hands of a small group. We need sysops that can rule based on understanding this community, its precedents and policies. They can then be taught to move/delete/restore pages far quicker than we can teach you what you need to know about vandalism, misconduct and good faith. Also, messing up a move isn't serious, causing a ruling to go the wrong way because you want to be nice can have much more serious consequences for this community. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - As WanYao and (surprisingly) Iscariot. --Private Mark 22:02, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
• Abstain - I've seen your edits and agree that you're a valuable contributor, but I don't feel that I have a grasp of how you would handle certain situations that sysops must face. —Aichon— 00:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
• Yawn, nahhh - charlie does everything janitorish about 5 minutes before its due to be done and so as iscariot, well his first sentence - i assume the rest is in a similar vein. xoxo 06:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - in soviet russia, promotions vouchs you --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 14:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
• against needs moar drama... tell iscariot to shut the fuck up a lot more. that would swing my vote.----Sexualharrison 17:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
• against -- In the past I have generally voted against people who nominate themselves. All the candidates I've ever voted for had somebody else nominate him/her. I sense a pattern... Asheets 18:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch -Good contributor; liked his answer on Rosslessness' talk page. --Janus ^talk 14:34, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

:'( --Janus ^talk 16:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Rorybob

Rorybob (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I have actively contributed to the wiki and its community since July this year. In this time, I have played a part in setting up the Building Information Center, and also started up the Survival Lexicon. I am an occasional visitor of DS, and am familiar with the process of Deletions. I believe I have had no major disagreements on the wiki with another member.

I am currently unmerging locations pages and updating all Auto Repair Shop and Factory pages with their corresponding Danger Reports in the process of updating the TRP template.

What say you, denizens?

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Rahrah^{Come join the #party!} 12:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

• Abstain - Great guy, needs more edits. You've done 500 in two months, but 1000 takes you back to 2008. More time in the community. 1 month, 2 months? Just to bring it up to 1000 recent edits.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - Can't believe I am doing this. But I like you, and some of the work you've been doing demonstrates that you know how to use the wiki. This is a very weak vouch though, only because if you kept this up for another month and came back you'd have my full support. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch Rory has done good grunt work, asked questions when he's stuck, revived the lexicon and thought the Monroeville Many were historical.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against No. --Thadeous Oakley 13:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• ROSIE O'DONNELL SIZED AGAINST WHO THE FUCKING MOTHERFUCK ARE YOU? GTFO WITH THIS FAGGOTRY.--CyberRead240 14:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Not yet my good sir. But keep up the outstanding work!-- SA 14:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Fuck it he does good work anyway. Horde vote enhanced amirite -- SA 01:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  Ubrite. --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}22:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch Seems to have done a lot of work towards making the wiki better. - User:Whitehouse 15:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against - You are a good user and a positive force. But you need more experience. Take the unmerged locations you cited. They aren't actually finished yet. For example. I'm not blaming you, because you probably didn't know about the extra coding needed, categories to add, etc., but this does demonstrate you need more time to learn the wiki, which I'm confident you will. Keep up the good work!--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

*Against I'd like to hear some more of your work first. Asheets 17:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - Hey, why not Cyberbob  Talk  20:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - I think this dude is pretty level-headed and "well-intentioned", I definitely like the idea of him being a sysop now or in the future. --Obi ^{+ Talk!|TZH|MDK} 21:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - Seems like the right material. --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Abstain - I've never met him and know almost nothing about him, and am therefore unqualified to judge his worth as a sysop candidate. He can't really be that active if I've never run across him once, though. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Abstain - I haven't been around the wiki for long, but I'm decently aware of most of the other sysops in general, yet only vaguely aware of him. The bit I've seen is okay, but not nearly enough to base a decision on. —Aichon— 22:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Abstain - Turns into a vouch when the mudkip gets back in your sig. But really, as Yonnua's bid, more experience blabla, I'll vouch in another month if you keep doing good work and run again. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 22:34, 29 October 2009 (BST)

  Re: It's still there on /sig. :P †[R]^{[ah] [R][ah] [B][ahb]} -- User:Rorybob/status22:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC) <-- See?

• Vouch - Excellent janitorial type. --  RoosterDragon  22:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against but only because I have not seen you active in any of the areas that require you to deal with drama (or make sound, policy based decisions) Show your mettle there and it will be a solid vouch from me. --Honestmistake 23:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

A/M and the like? I see. It shall be done at some point in the near future. --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}00:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

A/M, A/VB, A/A. The three drama capitals of Wikonia.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 00:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

exactly those types of page. A sysop is a janitor and you seem to have all the needed skills but I don't recall seeing any presence in the area's that are contentious. Obviously you can't "rule" but making you opinion known helps us judge if you are right for the parts of the sysop role that call for you to be trusted in every sense. Keep up the good work though... someone has too :) --Honestmistake 00:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - As Rooster --Haliman - Talk 01:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against - As Honestmistake, become a little more active in those areas and i will change my vote. -- 
  •   Timmah!  
  •   Talk  
  04:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - I've seen some of your input, and it's been sound thus far. Keep up the work and I think you'll make a great sysop. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 05:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
• As Iscariot - once he makes a decision. This guy seems pleasant enough but will probs just sheep vote... xoxo 09:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  I agree, Rorybob is clearly the sheep here. Cyberbob  Talk  09:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  Okay so i could ignore you but thats boring, pretend that i didn't notice your sarcasm - always good for a laugh but you play the sarcasm card so often that even i'm starting to tire of it or i could point out that your comment is entirely irrelevant to what i wrote and that my as iscariot vote could have been an as anyonewhohasnt voted yet vote but you know that already too so i'm not left with too many options. I guess i'll just go with unedited wall of text and see what happens. xoxo 09:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  So... That hasn't been your usual strategy for the past 2 years? Oh... --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  God no. 9/10 i'd go with pretending to not notice sarcasm. xoxo 09:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  Meant unedited rants. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  Yeah i know, i just think they aren't one of my more used tactics. From time to thyme to be sure, but not that often. Wheres bob gone? xoxo 09:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  ...? Idon'geddit. --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}12:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - i strongly believe rorybob will not misuse the tools that come with sysophood. He is OK in my book for promotion --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 16:54, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - Rorybob has proven a capable and friendly editor, who has selflessly volunteered for a majority of the recent tasks designed to better the wiki.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 06:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against - As Honestmistake --WanYao 08:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Against - You don't need extra buttons to do what you do. You don't need extra buttons to improve the wiki. I don't want you to have extra buttons because I have no idea of how you're going to act when you get on A/VB or A/M. This notion that people who implement new systems and templates on the wiki will make good sysops is simply idiotic, they either make a mess of rulings or they just stick their heads in the sand and ignore these pages even when they are required. We already have two drama adverse sysops simply taking up space on the roster, I don't want more that will leave ruling in the hands of a small group. We need sysops that can rule based on understanding this community, its precedents and policies. They can then be taught to move/delete/restore pages far quicker than we can teach you what you need to know about vandalism, misconduct and good faith. Also, messing up a move isn't serious, causing a ruling to go the wrong way because you want to be nice can have much more serious consequences for this community. Additionally this user has previously decided that his own opinions and perceptions are all he needs to go around changing stuff for other groups. I have doubts about his ability to remain impartial. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:53, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

  In my opinion, the majority of those that put themselves up for sysop don't need the tools that come with the post, nor do they have much experience in A/VB or A/M. From looking at the Successful bid history, I can only see Jedaz needed the "buttons". (Although the reference to needing the Move function is very slight, it is the only mention of needing sysop tools I have seen reading through the old bids.)

  I am also slightly confused by the comment "This notion that people who implement new systems and templates on the wiki will make good sysops is simply idiotic", as leadership is one of the criterion for sysophood, something which implementing new systems requires. I also found a quote from Vista(A former Crat.): "...the position of a sysop is that of a glorified janitor." You may well say it's idiotic, but that notion seems to have stayed for at least two years.

  In response to the last statement, I was in the wrong. If I were to find something on the wiki that I disagree with, I would now check around and try to find out about the oddity. I suppose there is no-one I can thank for that trait than you, Iscariot. But I might mention Vista once again, who (in the same speech) said this: "The only place where a small amount of personal judgment is possible is the vandal banning page."

  ---Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}19:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

  At least you, unlike the other one are actively engaging criticism rather than burying your head in the sand. You're not seeing though the difference between a good programmer and a good community leader. Take the recent Nubis misconduct case, given the magnitude of that case we needed every sysop to participate and state their judgement and opinions about it, it's part of the responsibility of being a sysop. The Rooster didn't, even when reminded. The Rooster is an excellent programmer but he is a bad sysop. Sometime you have to go into the drama for the good of the community, even if all you're going to do is post 5 paragraphs of reasoning, opinion and precedent that boils down you "Yep, I agree". I don't know how you'd do this because I've never seen you in any drama or attempting to create policy or bring forth relevant precedent. I don't want you getting buttons on the basis that you've done some helpful templates and watch you completely mess up user's vandal cases, misconduct case etc. for eight months until I can get rid of you. You really have to make the effort here to prove as best you can that you'd be able to cope with this to the community before you get the buttons. To be fair, I don't think you'd break the wiki if given move powers, but I'm not sure that you'd make the right decisions in places like VB or Misconduct. You don't need the buttons to continue your good work, and your use of the admin pages (to get emptied combined location pages deleted say) won't actually change as you can't do these actions yourself according to policy due to the need for oversight. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 01:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

  Truly told, I don't have any of the experience you deem necessary. I will, therefore, try and immerse myself in Misbantration, or whatever shortening of the three pages names tickles your fancy. In all honesty, I have pretty much no idea how arbitration works and have actively avoided it before now, prefering to stick with what I know. But, seeing as I want to be a sysop, I need to learn how that and the other misconduct pages work. So, in short "I agree." Comment by Rorybob at 19:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC).

Arbitration isn't a "misconduct" type of page... It doesn't often work and is mostly a tool for people to to persue their petty vendetta. Looking to reform it back to a useful community page on the otherhand would be well worth it if successful!--Honestmistake 19:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

• no wow july huh? come back when you done anything i've noticed.----Sexualharrison 17:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
• against -- In the past I have generally voted against people who nominate themselves. All the candidates I've ever voted for had somebody else nominate him/her. I sense a pattern... Asheets 18:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

The nomination has ended, and Boxy and I have talked about Rorybob's bid. First off, I'm going to say that neither I nor Boxy have any compunction with promoting hard-working users who don't deal with drama, we've had plenty of fine examples to demonstrate that such users make good ops, and even past our time, if there was anything I would have stay in the wiki's administration culture, it would be that mentality.

More to the point, Rory is an example of one of these users, and oneday, personally, I would like to see him as an op. But at the moment, he's a little bit rusty with the going-ons and falls a little short of op material, and personally, Boxy and I would like to see an extension of his great community work before he is promoted. Keep it up, bud, and I think you'll become an op soon. Rejected, but try again in a month or two. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Rosslessness

Promoted and archived. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

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