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User:Nubis

I don't want to steal Karek's thunder, but I think he and the others have a point that sysops shouldn't be afraid of the community opinion. If they are then they probably aren't doing their job correctly. I'm one of the longest standing sysops and it's probably time I put myself up for a review. (to be honest, the majority of the work I do doesn't require Sysop powers) but hopefully I have shown that I can be reasonable and fair in A/VB/M matters.

Besides, if Karek steps down this place may fall into chaos and I don't want to see that. So, again, following his wise lead, I'm submitting a re-promotion bid.

I don't really know what else to say, but consider it open season on any complaints/issues and I will address them. --– Nubis NWO 03:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Vouch --Cyberbob 03:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - For following Karek's retarded example. If anyone else had put up a case on administration in which a result either way would not change the current status, like putting a deleted page up for deletion or reporting a perma banned user they'd have been escalated for shitting up the admin pages. Apparently not here though with one rule for sysops and one for ever fucker else. If you want to be 're-promoted' you have to be demoted first, basic logic and English. Hagnat may have pulled emo-validate-my-existence-by-saying-nice-things-about-me shit in the past but that doesn't change the basic premise that this is crapping up an admin page (whilst a user who is actually up for promotion has a bid in progress no less) and you should all know better. I'd remove both of these on basic principle that you can't be promoted but we all know you'd use excuse to escalate me in the fair and impartial way you do. If you really want the community's opinion, go submit a demotion request and then go for re-promotion properly. And why are you 'Under Community Discussion' when you haven't received three vouches yet? One rule for sysops.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 03:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    I think you are missing the point that this could very well change my status.
    I did, however, put it under the wrong heading because I was posting on my way out the door and worried more about getting the news item right than the placement of this. Sorry. That was an accident. I would move this to the right place, but it has enough to be here now, so that would be pointless. (Actually, I forgot AHLG wasn't a sysop anymore - going to move it. - now) I see SA posted. It can be here now.
    Mostly this is about giving the users a place where they are expected to vent any and all concerns about a user. A place where (unlike a talk page) I don't have control of the content and where it is public enough that even casual users can respond. I would think that you of all people would welcome this IF the sysops doing it actually agreed to abide by the communities opinion at the end. --– Nubis NWO 13:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Nubis is correct, even if it was triggered by karek's move, it's still a brave move to put yourself up for reevaluation no matter what the circumstances are. Nubis is showing a trust in the community by putting himself in such a position. And Iscariot, stop nitpicking. The discussion has been accepted by the community on both reevaluations, so stop nitpicking and actually say what you think of the abilities of both Sysops, rather then nitpicking on something that doesn't matter.-- Adward  10:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  • No offense, but you sometimes come across as 'biased', although I'll leave it is an assumption since this is the internet and there are no MIND-READING DEVICES. Other than that meh, I don't have any real problems with you, except you're a little odd sometimes... I think you have a good balance on the 'ignore the rules', ie, not going overtop with it. Your work is good too. --  AHLGTG 03:49, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain for now - You are a HUGE asset to the sysop team and I fully support you, but I want to wait until the drama surrounding these promotion bids of you and Karek dies down a little and we get official opinion on it before I officially vote. Yes, I'm weird like that.--SirArgo Talk 04:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Vouch - Tired of waiting, I'm voting now.--SirArgo Talk 23:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • As Gnome. Does his share of work around here, reasonably fair. Overall an alright guy, if a bit of a hothead sometimes. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • BFFs FOR EVA! Other than the Amberwaves deletion thing, I've never had a problem with Nubis. And besides that, it was almost entirely about opinion that the conflict started at all. He also makes me laugh.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 11:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    I had to fight for the Amberwaves image "on principle" because I didn't want the Marty Banks pictures deleted. --– Nubis NWO 14:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    I'd have fought to keep those, because a lot of them were well made, not just "Lol fat" wrote in MS paint.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 16:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • abstain/borderline vouch I don't often see eye to eye with Nubis but I do know that he argues from principle rather than spite/bias. He does a lot of good work around the wiki and my only real issue with him is that a very large amount of the petty and technicality misconducts that are brought against him would be avoided if he followed the rules --Honestmistake 14:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    At least those petty and technical misconduct cases don't involve banning users. That has to be something.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 09:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch he sometimes makes me laugh, and has never crossed me yet. gold in basket please.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 19:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - "Distinguished quality. A remarkably prime sysop. Thanks. A+!" --Janus talk 21:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Fast shipping! Good Communication! Would bid again A++++++++++--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 09:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - As AHLG, you seem a little odd but, I don't see you doing anything wrong which should keep you from being sysop. Liberty 23:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Yer ok fer a Goon ;P --WanYao 01:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
    Dem's fightin' werds...oh, wai---Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 09:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch He's NEVER been considered a Good sysop. and as Wan. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 03:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch Nubis is my homeboy. --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 09:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Damn good Sysop. -- Adward  10:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong Abstain - Meh. --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 15:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Karek

I was going to wait until the other bid was finished to do this but have decided it's gonna happen now instead.

I have been a sysop for a while now, there has been much drama relating to some of my actions a lot of various background work done. We've finally reached a point where the majority of the sysop team is actually active and doing stuff, I hoped we had reached a point where the sysops understood that they actually do have some control of the user base and should act accordingly (In a manner conducive to the administrative nature of the position) but I'll leave that to everyone else to decide, although we certainly are closer than we were when I was promoted.

I'm putting myself up here as opposed to simply demotion, because I feel that it would be improper for me to leave without at lest giving the community at least one final chance at assessing my treatment and actions as a sysop. Yes, this is a re-promotion bid, It's also probably not as good as it could be wording and information wise I've always sucked at these things. Have at thee.--Karekmaps?! 16:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

(Strong Vouch if he wants, Against if he doesn't.) --Janus talk 21:16, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • He's fine and all. I think you should stay. --  AHLGTG 18:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - As per Anime Sucks. --Speels 19:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - If you want to stay on, you would be welcome. I believe you are an excellent sysop.-- Adward  19:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Abstain - I would dearly love it if you carried on, but if you want to leave this god awful place, then go for it. Also, as Anime.-- Adward  20:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - If you don't want to be sysop, don't do it. Even if the community is overwhelming support of keeping you on, if you don't want to do it then just don't. I find this move to be in somewhat poor taste because the last thing we need is a sysop who doesn't want to be there.--SirArgo Talk 20:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Very Strong Vouch - While I don't always agree with Karek, I very much respect his opinion and I personally find him to be a very able and knowledgeable member of the team. -- Cheese 21:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch Because I may not agree with what you say much of the time But I will defend with my life your right to say it. Honestly. Furthermore, no community may be properly represented in its administration without at least some representation from allmost possible angles. Karek is my counterpoint on many of beleifs I represent as my own. If Karek leaves I would have to change my public visage, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to do that. btw if anyone wants to comment on this please do it on my talk page so it doesnt shit up this validation of Kareks service and abilities. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 21:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Shit mate, one of the few people on this wiki I can count on to be intelligent and know what he's doing, and now you're going to leave? Damn. Do what you want to do, but I still say you did an awesome job.--SA 22:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - I would like to see him stay, he does a lot of useful work, with a minimum of fuss -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:44 5 February 2009 (BST)
  • Vouch - As Nubis. err...Suicidalangel. And who will be left to out-lawyer the wikilawyers if you go? DON'T LEAVE US! --Jen 02:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Erm...Nubis hasn't posted here yet. -- Cheese 00:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Good work, Team-BFF -- boxy talkteh rulz 00:17 6 February 2009 (BST)
    Dangint! --Jen 02:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch I think I said everything on my talk page under Srs Question. I don't think you are as hated by "the community" as it was painted. Hopefully, this will give you the reassurance that people do respect you for taking the hardline on issues.Emot-argh.gif-+N+BFF SA--– Nubis NWO 00:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - As others, I don't always agree with Karek... however, he's one of the best sysops we have. He always strives to things the right way, and is probably the single person I've learned the most from on this wiki. The wiki will lose a very good person if you go, karek. Sigh... :( --WanYao 03:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - You suck for putting Honest up for promotion, but apart from that you're alright. --Cyberbob 03:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - I don't always agree with your opinion, but I think you are as fair and unbiased as anyone will get around here. --Pestolence(talk) 04:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - You want over here.--xoxo 04:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Btw that's an as anime not a i want you demoted nao.--xoxo 06:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Karek's a great guy, and what boxy said-he does a lot of work with very little fuss. Although he can attract drama sometimes, that's pretty meh overall. He's enough of an ass to make hard decisions and get things done, but he's nice enough to not simply piss everyone off for no reason, and create MOAR DRAMAS!!!! Linkthewindow  Talk  05:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
That said, Karek shouldn't be forced to stay on as sysop if he doesn't want it. Linkthewindow  Talk  23:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • vouch Karek and I disagree on a great many things but he is always willing to explain and defend his position in a fair and logical way rather than just dismiss people as wrong he is also the most likely of all sysops to act without bias. Couple that with his understanding of how things work and i really doubt that we can afford to lose him... Still going to argue with him a lot if he stays though.--Honestmistake 09:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - As Linkthewindow and Honestmistake. You're pretty much the best sysop we have. --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 11:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Meh - I know he has worked very hard as a sysops but the way he handeld a deletion lately was outright terrible, plain undemocratic. --Thadeous Oakley 14:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Fair, unbiased and one of the best sysops around :). --D.E.ATalk 15:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch this is an easy one. as above. perfectly explained... speels go suck a dogs dick.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 19:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Bold in desicions but rarely wrong in my opinion. Liberty 23:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - While you might not always like they guy, he is necessary.--'BPTmz 23:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - --Bullgod 00:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch... OH SHIT BULLGOD ^.^ - --/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 01:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Honestmistake

He has more than enough contributions, although the history purge screws with the contributor history. He has been here more than a year now, has taken an active interest in the maintenance duties and policy discussions on this wiki and, while we don't always agree is the kind of user I think should be promoted. He has proven he is able to do the job and more than qualifies. So, assuming he accepts, I think it's about time we gave him a bid.--Karekmaps?! 01:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Very intresting to see the amount of suport (and opposition I have had here) and can only appologize that i am on a restricted interwebz diet at due to someone else breaking my home connection.
I am flattered by the nomination but don't think I have the skills needed to actually do the real work required for the job. Also, unlike Suicidal Angel, I do still sometimes edit the wiki drunk which goes a long way to explaining why I sometimes go off on tangents.That said, I would like to see this bid go through to the finish but feel it only fair to point out that if promoted I want absolutly nothing to do with any aspect of the job which involves wiki skills, though i will do my best to learn some.
Why might i make a good sysop? Well; I do not argue from malice and always with a point. I do not expect to win all (or given this is the internet, any) of those arguments and indeed often become embroiled in them only to make the otherside think. I am always willing to hold my hands up to my own mistakes and would point out that in my 3+ years here I have hardly ever gone a week without editing something and have only once been brought up on vandal charges and that was a pretty stupid and petty case. I am an inclusionist and proud of it and feel that a sysops role should be not just enforcing rules but knowing when doing so is counter productive.
I have been avoiding A/VB recently and don't look forwards to being dragged back, however, I don't think any sysop should be allowed to not get involved there so would obviously have no choice if promoted.
Finally; The Sysops job description includes the phrase "Trusted User" and you can trust me to always listen to both sides of an argument and to always strive to help any users in any way I can (even if its just pointing you at someone who knows what they are doing!) You can trust me not to try any fancy re-organization and not to try to overthrow the wiki... what you can't trust me with is any actual work!--Honestmistake 09:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I literally threw up. You've never been able to resist a good bitch in your entire time on the wiki; why the fuck should anyone believe you'd start now? OMG GUIS I'D ROOLY TROOLY CHAENG SRSLY? Bullshit. You don't even know the meaning of the term self-control. --Cyberbob 09:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
You threw up? Bonus!
Seriously though I would like to thank you and Read, Such are your towering reputations for fairness and sincerity that your early support would have doomed this before i even noticed it....--Honestmistake 10:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
DO HO HO. You always were a witty little cunt. What a shame you don't put as much effort into logical thinking (srsly guise - as long as mai harts in teh rite plaec it dun matter wether im rite dus it?) as you do coming up with those shitty jokes. --Cyberbob 10:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, basically what you're saying here is that promoting you would be completely pointless as you wouldn't do a single fucking thing beyond 'keepan ur hart in teh rite plaece and bein srsly srs aboot discushun'. Lol. --Cyberbob 11:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I was going to reply... but honestly, would there even be a point? I mean, its not like you would accept the answer and go away is it!--Honestmistake 14:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
You were going to reply, but you didn't... then you did anyway. Fail. --Cyberbob 14:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
tl;dr. If that's way you type a large message then you just gave me another reason to remain against. Sorry.--Thadeous Oakley 17:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - I put him up here, it would be strange if I didn't vouch. I believe he would be a good Sysop. --Karekmaps?! 01:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - I've known him on the suggestion pages for a while. He's a good guy, doesn't get involved in too much drama and is reasonably level-headed. Not sure if he wants this, though. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I've been proven wrong. Although it would be nice if you could learn how to use paragraphs :P. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - too fucking serious too much of the time.--CyberRead240 01:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    Also, this proves what Karek knows about what the community needs.--CyberRead240 08:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
    Not about my view of the community, it's about my view of the user. --Karekmaps?! 16:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Look. 3 vouches. Now he has to accept. Although he might not. Did I mention Vouch? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 01:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - We do not need yet another rules-whoring crybaby on the sysop team. --Cyberbob 01:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Strongly Against This user has shown time and time again that he fails to comprehend basic concepts. His arguments are emotional, weak (at best), nonsensical and off topic. I seriously wonder if someone hacked Karek's account to make him do this. --– Nubis NWO 02:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    The "You Ass" section on Karek's Talk page is more than enough to show what I am talking about. The section where Karek says about HM:Iscariot and you both has a long history of disliking the sysops and raging against the machine for the sake of it, I deal with Iscariot off of the wiki and know he acts very differently here and I know you can be reasonable but often enough fall into the category of opposing the sysops for the sake of it that I often find myself having to take your comments on something with a grain of salt. RAGING VOUCH there Karek! --– Nubis NWO 02:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    He may be one to argue but he is also willing to admit when he is wrong about something if discussion is actually attempted. He only argues because he actually cares about how the rules are enforced, not like some others who do it simply to cause drama. --Karekmaps?! 04:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    Karek, he may admit to being wrong when you finally get it through his head that he doesn't understand what he is talking about. Look at his comments in the section I mentioned and his comments on the J3D A/M case are frighteningly dense. I don't want another sysop that we will have to babysit or clean up after. He also "splits hairs" on policies by commenting on the wording. He thought the phrase "No Confidence Vote" was too harsh. WTF?
    You know, Karek, it really looks like you are trying to get someone in "the new crowd" promoted so that you don't seem like part of the "elite clique" and so that you can answer Iscariot's cries of you are out of touch with the community. Why are you putting him up now? What has HM done in the last 2 months that all of the sudden made you decide Damn! this is the fresh blood we need?--– Nubis NWO 13:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    It's not a sudden decision. I've been considering this for a long while and it's just now that I happened to get around to it(I don't like multiple bids up at once). --Karekmaps?! 00:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
    Nubis.... "thank you for your contribution" pretty much sums up my opinion on you and your "vote". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Honestmistake (talkcontribs) .
    Firstly, learn to sign. Secondly, you're displaying the exact same arrogance you so often shout from your soapbox that the sysops supposedly have too much of. Enjoy your hypocrisy, dipshit. --Cyberbob 10:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
    Third, it is "Thank you for your input". Your attention to detail is awe inspiring.-Emot-argh.gif--– Nubis NWO 13:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
    Believe it or not I carefully chose that word rather than your version because I feel it fits what I wished to say so much better. That it so closely reflects your own words was deliberate; hence the quote marks. I understand and accept your concerns, I just don't see the point in arguing with you and Bob when all it does is lead to insults. If you must insist on abuse then take it to my talk page rather than Spamming this page.--Honestmistake 13:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong 'gainst - Done nothinto deserve this, other wise as Cyberbob/Nubis... WTF hae you been smoking Karke?--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 02:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain - Sorry. I know Honest is contributive, but I'm not sure he's up to the task. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain - Pros: Honestmistake is a solid user and with a long history of interest and contributions. Usually listens to reason and almost always avoids drama. Cons: Sometimes comes up with really weird, illogical positions on what seem to be pretty straightforward issues. Concusion: More time and more active participation in Admin stuff, then he might be an excellent candidate. --WanYao 03:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • AgainstI don't see him that often, nor do I see any great contributions.--Thadeous Oakley 09:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Free sysops for everybody \õ/ --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talkcontribs) at 10:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    honestmistake is a good and caring contributor. he is not the kind who acts for the lulz, so he wont fuck up with his admin powers --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talkcontribs) at 10:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    Given the company you keep I'm sure you'll forgive people if they don't find your character reference all that exciting. --Cyberbob 11:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    Given the candidates i have voted for in the past ( http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Promotions/Cyberbob240_%283%29 ) I am not sure they should put trust in me either?--Honestmistake 13:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
    You're doing that arrogance thing again. BTW, I would (and did) make a damn good sysop if I gave a fuck. --Cyberbob 13:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - He mostly has a point when he disagrees with a decision, and even if I disagree, it's usually a difference of opinion -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:23 31 January 2009 (BST)
    Should anyone else bother voting then, if he accepts the nomination? --Cyberbob 11:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    Of course they should. I always take into account other people's opinions -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:13 31 January 2009 (BST)
    Hahaha. That's a good one. --Cyberbob 12:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    When does cyberbob's trolling cross the border into shitting up an Admin page? --WanYao 12:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    My comment was considerably more relevant than that attempt, my dear. If you want to go after someone for shitting up admin pages I suggest you take a look at the amount of shit I've moved off A/VB onto the talk page in recent weeks. --Cyberbob 12:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    When he stops making good points. I do hope that they at least play out the charade and leave the "what do you think about this promotion bid" comments on each other's pages. We expect the Dog and Pony at the Show. Or should that be ass? --– Nubis NWO 13:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain Against i'm on the fence. maybe next time around. don't we have enough users with super powers? and as above i thought HM hated the Sysops?----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 13:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    I do not and have never "hated" the sysops. A few users however seem to think anyone questioning their decision is obviously a sysop hater and screams that loud and often enough that it sticks.--Honestmistake 10:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
    okay that answers that. For the Record. I do hate sysops. but I fear things i don't understand.... now for my vote, will give me gold in the basket? cookies and milk? and tities and beer?----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 13:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
    How about tickets to Spearmint Rhino and a free bottle of cheap champagne?--Honestmistake 13:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
    WHO? and I hate fucking champagne... gimmie a good bottle of 12 year old single malt scotch on your next try. so NO.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 19:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
    Spearmint Rhino is a chain of expensive Lapdancing bars and if you prefer a decent malt you should have said... Taliskers suit you?--Honestmistake 09:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain Don't know him well enough. --Janus talk 13:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouchy vouch - He's always been decent, polite and such when I've talked to him. He seems to have a functioning brain and such, so yes, vouch.--SeventythreeTalk 15:16, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    So if he wasn't polite, you'd vote against? And wtf does "decent" mean?--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 03:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
    Characterized by conformity to recognized standards of propriety or morality.--xoxo 03:15, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain - I haven't seen him much outside several petty squabbles with other users. If/When he accepts his nomination, it would be useful if he would provide some examples of why he should be a sysop. Until then, I will abstain. --Pestolence(talk) 01:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - Because of some of his comments on Jed's last case in A/M remind me that I don't want him judging anything important in that place, or A/VB.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 02:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - Wow, I thought this was a joke. His past actions speak VOLUMES.--SirArgo Talk 05:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
    I probably should not ask... but which actions do you have in mind? --Honestmistake 13:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain - Who? --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 07:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain - Who? --ScouterTX 18:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - I think he needs more experience with the administration aspects of the wiki, although he seems nice and has a pretty continuous interest in this place. --ZsL 01:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Against - Only because I haven't seen him do anything particularly special that makes him seem responsible enough for this. Given, I haven't seen him do anything wrong but I don't believe abstaining should justify that. Liberty 03:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - Seems to be a nice, decent bloke. --Toejam 09:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
    Incorrectness aside, don't you think you should be deciding based on a few more criteria than just personality? --Cyberbob 11:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain - I'm sure Honest is contributive and all, but I don't know him well enough. --D.E.ATalk 16:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abstain Unless the results are tied and then its a Vouch I Don't know Honest well enough to make a distinct vouch but in a close decision I'll give him the benifit of the doubt. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 05:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
    You absolutely refuse to get it, don't you, Con. This is not a vote, and there will be no "ties". What you say about him is more important than the bolded word at the begining of the sentence -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:37 5 February 2009 (BST)
    I choose to ignore your reality and substitute my own. OR It is in fact a vote, but one of a single entity, the Community. And whereas the single "vote" is determined by the shared perceived value by the community of the candidate. Although you may find my phrasing circumspect, let me assure you I meant what I said to indicate my general ambivalence in the matter, but also included a caveat that expresses my general inclusive nature of the promotions of Honestmistake as a sysop. i.e. I get it a hellova lot more than you could possibly believe sir, its not my fault you don't understand what I'm trying to say. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 21:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
    Voting is like sex. Conn isn't really abstaining more like he is only going to say 2nd base and groping Honest in the Ops back seat saying "Oh yeah, baby, I'll respect you as a sysop in the morning. You just have to A/VB me tonight." I think I just made myself throw up a little in my mouth.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 09:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
    That was just the teeniest bit o' weird.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 14:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - He's a good kid.--xoxo 05:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
    Would you believe he's in his 30's? Bit rich to be calling him a kid, mental age or no. --Cyberbob 10:42, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • AgainstI havent heard of him before sorry it seems like he dosent have enough time on here!--Dr. Sinclair 17:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
    Well I have been active in game since september 2005 and on the wiki within a week of starting the game. Since then i have logged in far more frequently than can be healthy and participate in a great deal of discussions etc and sometimes feel like i live on the suggestions pages... I have stepped away from certain areas recently as the drama levels were beginning to annoy me far too much, no doubt I will be back into the fray again soon though. --Honestmistake 17:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - We need some alternate opinions on the sysop team, badly. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 04:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Vouch - As Karek said pretty much. --Johnny Bass 15:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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