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(→‎Main Page: Actually, it's already duplicated content making us essentially have two differently styled main pages. We can do better than that and split identities now.)
(→‎Main Page: I'm being redundant because I wasn't paying much attention when writing it the first time. Idea is that Community goes to community, linking in from Ud.com needs go to Main)
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:::::Also see [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASidebar&action=historysubmit&diff=2032188&oldid=2007854 this]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:49, 8 October 2012 (BST)
:::::Also see [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASidebar&action=historysubmit&diff=2032188&oldid=2007854 this]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:49, 8 October 2012 (BST)
::::::You plan on putting [[Template:Community Projects|this]] in the sidebar? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:11, 8 October 2012 (BST)
::::::You plan on putting [[Template:Community Projects|this]] in the sidebar? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:11, 8 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::Yeah I'm not really seeing any redundancy by including Community Projects on Main. It isn't even within one click of any of the linked pages. I think I understand that you wanted to save space but of all the things you could have removed, Community Projects seems a little like overkill. Maybe that box can be split into thirds with Community Projects and UD this month in the smaller, upper two-thirds and Featured Articles in the larger, bottom one third. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::::::::I'm proposing a redesign of the whole core navigation structure not just the main page. That includes making Community Projects where it actually should be and makes the most sense, Community Portal. Community Portal, as noted in the sidebar diff, will be in the primary sidebar navigation box which is being split into navigation core and Administration quick access and then re-flowed to give a more common sense and less cluttered navigation experience. Community Portal should be the core location for Community related group sourced pages like Open Discussion, Policy Discussion, Community News, etc. Community Portal just hasn't been updated yet, I did just post a request for some suggestions for it's new content though.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:42, 9 October 2012 (BST)
Any chance we can have consistent width on the three main templates. The links templates just look so small. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  17:13, 8 October 2012 (BST)
Any chance we can have consistent width on the three main templates. The links templates just look so small. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  17:13, 8 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::Yeah I'm not really seeing any redundancy by including Community Projects on Main. It isn't even within one click of any of the linked pages. I think I understand that you wanted to save space but of all the things you could have removed, Community Projects seems a little like overkill. Maybe that box can be split into thirds with Community Projects and UD this month in the smaller, upper two-thirds and Featured Articles in the larger, bottom one third. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:The current flow of the Community section causes problems with it, specifically the Featured Articles section because it was made with tables instead of flowing divs so the text gets squished instead of flowing around the image. It's on my list of things to fix. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:42, 9 October 2012 (BST)
::::::::I'm proposing a redesign of the whole navigation level 1 structure not just the main page. That includes making Community Projects part of where it actually should be, Community Portal. Community Portal, as noted in the sidebar diff, will be in the primary sidebar navigation box which is being split into navigation core and Administration quick access. Community Portal should be the core location for Community related group sourced pages like Open Discussion, Policy Discussion, Community News, etc. Basically the remove portion has no positive benefit to the main page, it's out of place, and we're currently including everything we have the other page for and the sidebar for in the main because we've been too lazy over the years to rebuild the structure and because of tradition. It's preserving the stuff people need to see when they load the wiki page, that doesn't include heavy community involvement projects/discussions which belong on Community Portal. Community Portal just hasn't been updated yet.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:42, 9 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::::Actually, as is that page already duplicates all of the content in those three boxes and is in the sidebar it's just not prominent and is essentially hidden by a number of other unused links. Community Portal basically needs a redesign to make it more friendly to people trying to use it and that whole section becomes redundant. Though Featured and This Week really shouldn't appear on Community Portal so much as a template for What's up for Voting and where to suggest This Weeks. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:22, 9 October 2012 (BST)


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So back in July there was a discussion which started at Template talk:UDThisMonth and later moved to Talk:Main Page#Main Page Organization Discussion. The idea was to swap the Navigation and Community Portal templates so that the Game Information boxes, which are more relevant to new players, would appear above the community portal (FA, community projects, and ThisMonth). But I just realized that the change never happened. Should I reopen discussion or can the swap be done? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:56, 2 October 2012 (BST)

I'll wait for another sysop since there were only a few people in the discussion and I was one of them, so I don't want to just shove my own opinion through, since I am in favor of swapping them. Aichon 07:59, 2 October 2012 (BST)
Sound good to me. *rubber-stamps* ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 08:26, 2 October 2012 (BST)
Ew, any chance someone who wants this to happen could fix the design of the navigation templates so it looks okay? The designer in me is crying out of fear that putting the small boxes hanging from the top-down with a big box below will look ugly as hell. A ZOMBIE ANT 02:47, 3 October 2012 (BST)

I've done this and I've spread out the nav boxes to try and make it more visually appealing, but it's still not perfect. Short of making all the boxes the same size (meaning removing links), I don't see an easy solution. If anybody does, feel free to make it look nicer.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:18, 5 October 2012 (BST)

It stretches the main page (forces side scrolling) on small screens (like mobiles). Might need to adjust the widdth on the individual boxes. ~Vsig.png 15:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Fixed the issue with it stretching the page by redesigning it, but it still looks a bit ugly, as was mentioned, with it being so skinny and above something so wide. Aichon 17:12, 5 October 2012 (BST)
Also, this. At least it looks balanced with something like that, though it looks weird for other reasons then. Maybe it's time for a main page overhaul anyway? Aichon 17:12, 5 October 2012 (BST)
Still forces side scrolling on my phone. Truthfully it may have been that way all along and I just never noticed. I see that the 4 smaller tables' combined width is just over 800px so should be fine on most all screen resolutions. I suppose you could change the width of the small tables to "25%" rather than defining a specific width. Probably a non-issue for most. It looks a lot better than it did this morning. ~Vsig.png 17:43, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it's been that way all along. I gave it the exact same width it had before Shortround's changes. It kinda looks like crap if you try to do 25% and have a larger resolution, since it fills it with a lot of awkward whitespace, and at smaller resolutions it can force line wraps, which makes the tables all jagged along the bottom as well. Also, if we do 25%, I don't think we'll be able to line up the stuff in the top table with the things underneath very easily, so that'll look silly too. All I really did was mostly fix the issue with the jagged bottom that we've always had. Aichon 20:50, 5 October 2012 (BST)
You could try shrinking the Game Information to take two columns instead of four. See what that looks like, although it might just push things down not so nicely. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:22, 6 October 2012 (BST)
I think that'd end up pushing things down more, which is exactly the problem it has right now. I fixed the problem of it having a jagged edge, but I did so by adding height to it. We can fix the height problem by either stretching it wide or giving it a jagged edge, both of which have issues as well. A fresh design might be in order, because all of our options at the moment come with trade offs, but I don't have time to do one at the moment, since I'm gone for the next week. Aichon 08:18, 6 October 2012 (BST)
Well, good luck with that. Last time around I was pretty much only able to change the colours, add the CP box, and fix up the top UD header box thing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:12, 7 October 2012 (BST)
Ugh.... Looks much worse than originally. Like is this that important anyway? I mean I think we're being a bit pedantic when we're changing things for (what I think is visually) the worse just so it helps a newbie find information easier, by two scrolls of the mouse. A ZOMBIE ANT 02:52, 6 October 2012 (BST)
I think we're getting our priorities straight rather than being pedantic. It doesn't look that much worse, and it makes the information much more obvious since it would be "above the fold" on many common screen resolutions. Again though, a new design might be able to fix everything. Maybe toss some ideas around or sandbox something? It certainly beats choosing the lesser of two evils with our current options. Aichon 08:18, 6 October 2012 (BST)
I personally disagree, the previous one looked adequate, this looks ugly. So to me that is a fair bit worse. And yes a redesign would suit well, but I'm not going to beat around the bush. I couldn't help with that on a technical point even if I tried so I wouldn't be able to throw around ideas. As for priorities, again, all someone had to do is press the down button on their keyboard twice to get there. It was never that bad. A ZOMBIE ANT 03:49, 7 October 2012 (BST)
I'll have something you all can check out in a day or so. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 16:31, 7 October 2012 (BST)
User:Karek/ProjDev/PD18MP01PT01--Karekmaps 2.0?! 12:55, 8 October 2012 (BST)
I haven't been involved in this but I saw this page in RC and had to say it looks nice! --Klexur 13:39, 8 October 2012 (BST)
Why the color change to most recent change box? White looked so much better. Also, could you explain why Community Projects was removed? ~Vsig.png 16:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
At the time I changed it it didn't work with the page. It's white now. Also yes, I removed stuff that's better placed in the toolbox, we don't need redundancy in links that are already potentially on the page and work better there. For most all of the large removals they're diff notes on the respective template clones in the projdev pages.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:00, 8 October 2012 (BST)
Also see this. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:49, 8 October 2012 (BST)
You plan on putting this in the sidebar? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:11, 8 October 2012 (BST)
Yeah I'm not really seeing any redundancy by including Community Projects on Main. It isn't even within one click of any of the linked pages. I think I understand that you wanted to save space but of all the things you could have removed, Community Projects seems a little like overkill. Maybe that box can be split into thirds with Community Projects and UD this month in the smaller, upper two-thirds and Featured Articles in the larger, bottom one third. ~Vsig.png 01:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm proposing a redesign of the whole core navigation structure not just the main page. That includes making Community Projects where it actually should be and makes the most sense, Community Portal. Community Portal, as noted in the sidebar diff, will be in the primary sidebar navigation box which is being split into navigation core and Administration quick access and then re-flowed to give a more common sense and less cluttered navigation experience. Community Portal should be the core location for Community related group sourced pages like Open Discussion, Policy Discussion, Community News, etc. Community Portal just hasn't been updated yet, I did just post a request for some suggestions for it's new content though.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:42, 9 October 2012 (BST)


Any chance we can have consistent width on the three main templates. The links templates just look so small. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 17:13, 8 October 2012 (BST)

The current flow of the Community section causes problems with it, specifically the Featured Articles section because it was made with tables instead of flowing divs so the text gets squished instead of flowing around the image. It's on my list of things to fix. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:42, 9 October 2012 (BST)

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You made me check this page for no good reason! Misconbitration! Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 15:53, 4 October 2012 (BST)
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