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This page is for the reporting of vandalism within the Urban Dead wiki, as defined by vandalism policy. On this wiki, the punishment for Vandalism is temporary banning, but due to security concerns, the ability to mete out this punishment is restricted to System Operators. As such, regular users will need to lodge a report for a Vandal to be banned from the wiki. For consistency and accountability, System Operators are requested to note on this board their actions in dealing with Vandals.

Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting

In dealing with Vandalism, time is often of the essence. As such, we ask that all users include the following information in a Vandalism report:

  • A link to the pages in question.
Preferably bolded for visibility. If the Vandalism is occurring over a sufficiently large number of pages, instead include a time range of the vandalism attempt, or alternatively, a link to the first vandalised page. This allows us to quickly find the damage so we can quickly assess the situation.
  • The user name of the Vandal.
This allows us to more easily identify the culprit, and to check details.
  • A signed datestamp.
For accountability purposes, we ask that you record in your request your user name and the time you lodged the report.
  • Please report at the top.
There's conflict with where to post and a lot of the reports are missed. If it's placed at the top of the page it's probably going to be seen and dealt with.

If you see Vandalism in progress, don't wait for System Operators to deal with it, as there may be no System Operator online at the time. Lodge the report, then start reverting pages back to their original form. This can be done by going to the "History" tab at the top of the page, and finding the last edit before the Vandal's attack. When a System Operator is available, they'll assess the situation, and if the report is legitimate, we will take steps to either warn the vandal, or ban them if they are on their second warning.

If the page is long, you can add new reports by editing the top report and placing your new report above its header in the edit screen.

Before Submitting a Report

  • This page, Vandal Banning, deals with bad-faith breaches of official policy.
  • Interpersonal complaints are better sorted out at UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration.
  • As much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort.
  • Avoid submitting reports which are petty.

Vandalism Report Space

Administration Notice
Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits. In most cases it's simply a case of a new user that doesn't know how this wiki works. Sometimes assuming good faith and speaking with others can avoid a lot of drama, and can even help newbies feel part of this community.
Administration Notice
If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment.
Administration Notice
Warned users can remove one entry of their warning history every one month and 250 edits after their last warning. To lodge a request for de-escalation, please visit A/DE. You are as responsible for keeping track of your history as the sysops are; In case of a sysop wrongly punishing you due to an outdated history, they might not be punished for their actions.



Removing content from a group and an user page he has no ownership of. Was escalated back in 2009 and again in 2015 for the very same edits. Aichon 06:33, 15 November 2018 (UTC)



Removed some important information here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Antifa&diff=prev&oldid=2359865 From a page that uses a template that he has previously been warned against editing. Obviously, trying to edit the page in another way. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 08:24, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm getting my name off your shitty list Commandant Romero (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Levi's first instance of vandalism was clear-cut and malicious, but the argument over whether his name should be on a page attributing him to something is another thing. If this were a guy taking exception to being called a PKer and removing his name from a PK list, I would say "it's not an administrative issue- take it to arbitration." I don't believe this being about nazis suddenly changes that. It's also worth noting his warning was for editing the context of pages/templates to change the context. It's not for the dispute over whether he is what this page says he is.

However, changing the template is just not on for me- even a small change. For some reason these stupid little troll edits have become common amongst wiki scrappers in the past few months. It's petty. You're already told to stay off the page, and it's obvious you're not welcome there. So stop messing around with how they want a page or a template in a way that doesn't affect you in any way. Vandalism. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 12:23, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Seconded on the first part — take it to A/A. As for the template swap, I'm honestly confused by the edit — the two templates express the same sentiment, and are mostly just different in size. No idea why Levi edited to switch them out, so I'm having a hard time parsing whether it's vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Given the user in question has requested a permadeletion, it all seems moot. Sniper4625 The Malton Globetrotters#4625 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 14:35, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Deleting his page doesn’t really mean much. Users frequently come back. Aichon 15:11, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Fair, was overly optimistic Sniper4625 The Malton Globetrotters#4625 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG\

Vandalism - To me, this looks like a group page that specifies who it belongs to and provides instructions for those who believe they were incorrectly listed. Levi doesn’t seem to fit the membership criteria and he made no attempt at following the instructions, so he shouldn’t have been editing the page in the first place. Aichon 15:11, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Levi can have his name removed when he starts being a better person. Thanks everyone -- SomethingSomething.gif 16:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


Edited my reply to his reply http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AThird_Positionism&diff=2359792&oldid=2359791 Normally would assume good faith, but have been trading insults since Uriel Milk apparently thinks nazi's are ok. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 22:21, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm, it does seem to be a good-faith attempt to shrink the image, as has occurred on (mostly user) talk pages in the past. I'm gonna tentatively rule not vandalism with a soft warning, although if the page gets moved then Levi would be able to re-shrink the image for the ease of reading what would then become his talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - While no one has really been doing it recently, we’ve always allowed people to, within reason, shrink oversized images on pages, owned or otherwise. I know there’s some history here, so it’s one of those things where they should be more careful, but we’ve always viewed this sort of thing as a formatting fix for the sake of readability on the wiki. Aichon 02:33, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - As Aichon. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:59, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Closing this one as a not vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


Vandalised some old template - Im getting used to this part of the wiki.. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:NationalismSmall&curid=16353&diff=2359607&oldid=1238828 -- Former King AudioAttack (talk) 22:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

its a template not a userspace, and your buddy dragonshardz has done worse but I dont see you condemning his actions, also you called them nationalism, so I corrected it. shouldve just called it antifa or communism —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Levi Romero (talkcontribs) at an unknown time. 23:12, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Welcome. Im the guy who has xx amount of vandal cases with Dragonshardz, Sniper, Gardenator and the other trotters, some with PenguinPyro and probably some other people - now that you know, that you know nothing, please leave templates that makes your brain go urrrrrrrrrrrrgh alone. -- SomethingSomething.gif 23:21, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I've reverted to before the current edits. This template seems to have been used by a few specific people in their userspace — Cyberbob, Conndraka and Pillsy — seemingly to protect it from deletion back in 2006. I'm tempted to view it as user-owned and therefore protect it. Any comments from other sysops? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I've also reverted the changes to Template:Nationalism, which is clearly being used by several users who are specifically leftist, and Levi Romero changed to a different political sentiment. Clear impersonation, vandalism on that one is my ruling. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
If it alters how templates are seen and used on user pages, then it's clearly vandalism. stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 00:23, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Chiming in after the fact, but exactly what Stelar said. It’s clearly bad faith, regardless of questions of ownership, so it’s clearly vandalism. Aichon 04:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
yeah fuck it I'll own up I guess it's vandalism Commandant Romero (talk) 00:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I removed the bolding; non-sysops are not allowed to rule on A/VB cases. That said, I'm processing this as vandalism with a warning. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:06, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, 100% vandalism. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Dragonshardz (5)

Directly ignored the exact wording of his warning he was given today by editing the same page again in someone else's userspace.

The edit is a difference of +11,362 characters (increasing Audioattack's page size by 30%), most of that content being from the Goons overriding the original page with trolling, drastically changing the original intent of Audioattack's creation of the archive in his userspace.

A wily attempt at loopholing his way into disrupting the page, but something I consider vandalism. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 09:33, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, despite the edit summary ("Look ma, it's an edit in good faith!") the context of the edit, and amazingly direct violation of the warning, makes this clearly not good faith. Vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 10:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
MFW it takes you nerds another 8+ hours to decide which person has to touch the poop and officially warn me for helping JISOR achieve his goal of making a lazy "lultriggeredlul" swipe. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 13:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Ayup, Vandalism. I went ahead and warned him. Aichon 16:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount (2)

After being warned just a few days ago about his editing of owned pages, he's continued his pattern of doing so:

  1. Blanking Bob's talk page
  2. Deleting my comment from a page that isn't his
  3. Editing a group page that isn't his, and then doing so again after being told not to do so

And this isn't an issue of him being ignorant of the rules, given that he clearly understands them just fine. Pretty obviously Vandalism at this point. Aichon 03:19, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 08:59, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Yep, vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 10:05, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Warned THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 10:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/List of Arbitrators

We're having an issue here with my name on the Arbitrators template. I've been trying to sort it via edit messages but ummm its not working out. My justification for my edits is as follows

1. I took on the moniker A HUGE GAPING VAGINA THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY 7 years ago and was known as that. I'm ok with retaining that name because LCpl Mendoza is some pubbie tier shit.

2. I edited myself back onto the arbitrators list in alphabetical order, using that name, with the only addition being the WIKI LAW tag.

3. I have no clue why this is a big deal and am assuming passive/aggressive bullshit is at hand hence this A/VB request.

I'd like for my edits to be held up. While the name I've chosen to represent myself as is unconventional, it is my choice and how I choose to identify myself as. Please back up my request to ensure my entry is no longer vandalized. The entry should read "A HUGE GAPING VAGINA THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY WIKI LAW or at least incorporate the Japanese translation from my sig. --F0b515c3623e9654.jpg Flame.gifFlame.gifFlame.gif ・ヒ・ゲ・バ スナック ストロング Flame.gifFlame.gifFlame.gif F0b515c3623e9654.jpgMandozersigtag.png555Manbabies.gif 16:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

By custom on lists lke the one of Arbitrators or the one on Project Welcome, users are listed by a name which is either identical to or extremely close to their actual account name (changing a capital, as with boxy, or spacing, as with Anime Sucks) so that they are readily identifiable by those who are unfamiliar with their "customary names", e.g. new users or those who don't venture frequently into the Administrative parts of the wiki. (Also, templates are allowed as part of signatures, but I can't find a single example of a template being used in someone's customary name, so I'm gonna say that's a no-go.)
I have reverted to Aichon's version and protected the page to prevent further edit warring; if there is a (slightly modified, e.g. "L Cpl Mendoza" or "lcpl mendoza") version of the name you prefer, let me know below. Not vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
That makes sense. Thank you for the quick reply and decision. You can unprotect the page by the way, I don't do edit wars. That's why I came here to resolve the issue.--F0b515c3623e9654.jpg Flame.gifFlame.gifFlame.gif

・ヒ・ゲ・バ スナック ストロング Flame.gifFlame.gifFlame.gif F0b515c3623e9654.jpgMandozersigtag.png555Manbabies.gif 17:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

For later reference, here are my relevant edits: first and second

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he simply forgot his activity from a few years ago, but a quick check through the page's history shows that the last time he was on the list, he actually wasn't listed as "A HUGE GAPING VAGINA THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY" like he suggests above. Instead, he was listed as "LCpl Mendoza" for nearly a full year (April 2011 to March 2012) after he engaged in a very similar edit war with a few other users. Oh, and he only made one attempt to "sort it via edit messages" before creating this case, which I responded to with an explanation for why I was reverting it. I'm happy to talk things over, but I'm not going to leave things in a broken state while we do so.

Anyway, given that he's said he won't edit war any further, I'll go ahead and unprotect the page in just a moment. Aichon 19:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Dragonshardz (4)

Triggered nerd got more triggered and vandalised one of my pages. I hate nazis too btw - I just don't expect to change shit online.


-- King AudioAttack (talk) 21:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

According to WIKI LAW you're supposed to take shit up with me first before you run screaming to the sysops and make an A/VB case. Nerd. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Like when sniper came here crying about his blanked userpage. got it. Don't be so butthurt, make cornholioo work for it at least. Besides, I thought we agreed to leave each others pages alone after last time.. -- HAIL King AudioAttack (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
I never agreed to anything. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 22:38, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Jack accusing anyone of getting mad over the wiki is rich. Also the Nazi got banned in the end so never give up on your dreams!Sniper4625 The Malton Globetrotters#4625 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 23:44, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Offering my services as an Arbitrator of WIKI LAW pls see my page for credentials --F0b515c3623e9654.jpg Flame.gifFlame.gifFlame.gif ・ヒ・ゲ・バ スナック ストロング Flame.gifFlame.gifFlame.gif F0b515c3623e9654.jpgMandozersigtag.png555Manbabies.gif 21:58, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 02:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Dif link for clarification THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 02:06, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism. Aichon 02:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, clearly bad faith. Vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:41, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead and Warned him. Aichon 19:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


New account with 5 edits to 3 pages [[1]]. One of which blanked User:Pardus's page, who has not been active in 8 years. The other edits were to his group page that has also not been edited in 8 years. This is a dangerous precedent to allow, as then anyone could make an account with a variation on an inactive user's name, and then proceed to edit their user page and associated group page. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 02:55, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm, I think this wasn't flagged as vandalism immediately because of what you're saying — the assumption they're the same person, which I'm not convinced by. I can say that Pardus' last edit was in 2010, which is before the checkuser cutoff, so it's impossible to IP-confirm their identity. I've messaged Pyropardus asking for evidence they're the same person, and would love comment from other sysops in the meantime. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I've been private messaged by the new Pyropardus, who says they're the same person, and this seems to be an example of not knowing to leave other userpages alone. I've reverted the edit to the userpage since there's no readily available way to prove it, but I'm leaving the MCWU page to the "new" user since it wasn't a major group and nobody's coming out of the woodwork to claim they're the original. Currently voting not vandalism as the edits were made in good faith. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 05:25, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
That is my new account, so you can go fuck yourself. Pardus (talk) 05:38, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
This is enough confirmation from me. Cycling this one as not vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 05:44, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing this up pyropardus. Lol at all the reverts and undos though. I'm glad I didn't get involved with that. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 08:06, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


Warned for this. --  AHLGTG 00:31, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I endorse this warning. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
They undid AHLG's warning, so I rolled back that edit. I assume I did the right thing? stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 05:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Users are allowed to edit their own page as they see fit, so fuck you. Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Jesus. No need to get cranky. I wasn't sure, hence why I posted what I did here as a question as well. stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 05:43, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Users are allowed to remove warnings from their own talk pages. I've re-removed it. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 05:41, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


Ban Evasion. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 22:19, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Endorsed. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


User:Jack's Inflamed Sense Of Rejection (2)

Vandalised RadicalWhig's userspace.

Claimed mistake at first but now is goading people by claiming he was ‘returning the favour’ - [2]

Semi relevant precedent: UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Suicidalangel/2009#4th_November THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 01:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm Radical Whig and I approve of this message :) --RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!01:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
I never claimed any mistake, only that it was not my userspace to make the vandalism obvious. If you don't see the sarcasm let me be clear - no mistake was made, I expected the outcome to be this. I honestly thought this would be the first of the two cases but it seems like dragonshardz was triggered more easily. Next time I will make the case against myself if this helps. Hail King AudioAttack (talk) 08:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Whatever you say, smoothbrains :) --RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!09:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
I think im gonna keep saying stuff as long as you're paying attention. Btw. If im a cheater, for talking with another cheater - what does that make you, when DoX was caught cheating in Shintolin? The plot thickens, I thought you guys were angels.. I mean, it must be as valid as your fabricated "kicked" message? (im still waiting for the log..) Hail King AudioAttack (talk) 11:14, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
lol :)--RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!02:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Self-admitted vandalism. I'd have voted not vandalism, giving the benefit of the doubt, as you can see below, but JISOR managed "to make the vandalism obvious" by stating as much above. Also, please keep the name-calling clutter off of A/VB, y'all. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism, which means a 24 hour ban at this point. Incidentally, I'd have voted vandalism regardless, since I thought that it was clearly not an effort made in good faith. Him admitting it merely seals the deal. Aichon 15:36, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I've updated his vandal data to reflect new accounts he's created since the last time I updated the data, and will institute 24 hour bans against all of them in a moment as well, that way he doesn't accidentally circumvent his ban. Aichon 16:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism let me know if anyone needs arbitratering, considering my Dave Grohl president. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

User:Jack's Inflamed Sense Of Rejection

Impersonation of myself and others on his page here: User talk:Jack's Inflamed Sense Of Rejection/PileOfShit1. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 09:12, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Yep, this isn't what was originally on the talk page, as is normal for a talk page archive. Definite impersonation vandalism. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:56, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
As one of those being impersonated, I also note he briefly vandalized RadicalWhig's userspace, and also currently has a mockery of the same user's userpage in his userspace. If this isn't all clearly malicious vandalism, I don't know what is. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 12:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
This revision on A/P also declares his malicious intent for all to see. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 12:47, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
... focus on what I did and not what I wrote. And hey, stealing is not a crime here. Hail King AudioAttack (talk) 15:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm more focused on your intent, ya whiny pissbaby. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 20:18, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
I thought you didn't care - now you made me happy mate :D Hail King AudioAttack (talk) 21:19, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Commentary on your smoothbrained hissy fits is not the same thing as caring. --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 01:29, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

RW is around, so if he isn’t okay with those edits, he knows to make a case. As for the impersonation, yeah, not cool. Vandalism, and I believe this will be a second warning as well based on the vandal data under Audioattack. Aichon 04:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Yep, JISOR reverted the edit to RW's space within two minutes making clear that one was in error, so I'm happy to let the RW edit slide. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
I won't have a problem with more being added, I will have them removed in 30 days from now. All Hail King AudioAttack (talk) 12:42, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
As fun as it would be if I returned the favor and plastered JISOR's user page with obnoxiousness and reverted it immediately, I think this sets a dangerous precedent if he gets away with it. Then anyone could scrawl anything on anyone's page and get away scot free as long as they remember to revert it immediately. I think for the sake of the rest of the community, it is important to stamp down on this and rule it vandalism. As for the impersonation, yeah, it's a little creepy. I can't see a legitimate reason for doing it, and it also sets a dangerous precedent if it is accepted as not vandalism. So I think a second charge would be quite justified. --RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!16:16, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
I think you're missing something mate. You already plastered my pages with obnoxiousness, along with Dijon? I had fun returning the favor with this - and for the record I counted on two votes, anything else would be stupid.. :) Hail King AudioAttack (talk) 19:24, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Audioattack, I'm making a distinction between talk pages (public) and user pages (private property). Try to keep up when the adults are talking, okay sweety? :) --RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!00:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Actually, you’re right, at least I agree, and remember some examples where this was the case. Previous rulings offer precedent that if you try to fuck with someone and mistakenly break the rules, no matter how harmless, no matter how quickly it’s reverted, the action can be ruled vandalism or misconduct. TLDR; You fuck up while trolling someone, you take responsibility for screwing about and failing at it. one example I can recall. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 00:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Warned. Also, I'll remove the offending "quotes" in just a moment. Aichon 15:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


He's been deleting user comments from my talk page, restoring comments I removed from my talk page, and undoing my edits on ENVY, which is a group page that I own. Take a look at what this guy is doing on ENVY and my talk page". --Murderess (talk) 21:42, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism - Murderess contacted me via Discord to ask about this case and what to say, so she already hit the high points about why these are fairly open-and-shut cases (note my use of the plural). We give people some leeway to delete comments on their own talk pages, but deleting a page owner's comments on their own talk page is nearly always vandalism, and certainly is in this case. And Remember made it abundantly clear it wasn't an accident when they continued deleting/restoring content on the talk page, contrary to the specific efforts of that page's owner. Likewise, using the Undo button to undo edits made by a group's owner on their own group page is not something I can think of any valid excuse for, and given that it comes just a week after the activity on the talk page, it clearly wasn't a mere coincidence.
Though this was reported as a single case of vandalism, I'm actually inclined to treat these as separate incidents of vandalism and thus issue two warnings, because the actions were on two separate pages and were over a week apart from each other. Thoughts from other 'sops? Aichon 22:17, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Definitely vandalism, although I'd say just one warning since there was only one message (that I can find, from JISOR) asking Remember to stop, and even that wasn't that clear that it was vandalism that was the concern. Any future edits like it and I'm down to warn again. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:58, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
I’m not a sysop and I know I do this a lot but I want to quickly signal that I don’t recall any precedent that two warnings has been done before (at least in a circumstance like this). Surely the fact no one reported Remember for the first edit would have been to him/her an implicit, though incorrect, indication that these kind of edits aren’t vandalism, hence enabling them to think that doing this a second time is ok. Wouldnt two warnings be a bit draconian? A ZOMBIE ANT 01:38, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with the one warning. --  AHLGTG 01:48, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I will add this to the discussion : I asked him directly on my talk page to "stop messing with my page", which he pursued to edit out again. That was after a few back and forth. I didn't post that night, which was last week, because after reviewing the guidelines for half an hour I was ever so confused about where, what and how to post. I just dropped it hoping he would get bored and move on. Unfortunately, he has not and its why I made the effort today to seek guidance to post after he edited my group page. He afterwards claimed, in an effort to hide the griefing, that he was doing me a favor by taking out a double post but the reality is that I already had done so and that is exactly what he edited out. For any sysop that can "see" what happened, its quite clear the aim wasn't to be helpful but rather pursuing to annoy me further. --Murderess (talk) 02:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I too agree with just the one warning, Remember was likely just attemping to update the ENVY group page to represent their anti-survivor activities. I'm sure he won't do it again. Sniper4625 The Malton Globetrotters#4625 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 03:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I agree with vandalism, since it was on someone else's talk page and that's a no go, but I think both edits could be counted under the one warning as they have essentially been reported at the same time, versus on two separate occasions. stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 04:17, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
The account is just acting sock puppet for The Dead, clearly carrying on tradition. I agree with one warning for the same reasons as Stelar - although I told him twice on separate occasions, not to edit without consent or proof. -- ∀UDIO∀TTACK (talk) 06:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Says the Sister Mary/Audioattack sockpuppet... Rememberwhenpeopleplayedthis (talk) 16:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I’ve unbolded your ‘one warning’ phrase. Bolded phrases like that are rulings by sysops. Regular users can’t ‘rule’. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting and clarifying! -- ∀UDIO∀TTACK (talk) 09:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Aren't we supposed to not comment on A/VB complaints we're not involved in? --    We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 22:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

This requires cycling. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Warned. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:10, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


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