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== [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2009 04|April 2009]] ==
== [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2009 04|April 2009]] ==
===[[User:MisterGame]]===
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I am hearby creating a petty case against myself. The empty beer bottle told me so. AnD BeCauSe iTs a SilEnt pROtest agaiNts bORedom.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 20:35, 6 April 2009 (BST)
Spamming up admin pages '''Vandalism''' </noinclude>[[User:Krazy Monkey|<span style="color:#CC6600">Che</span>]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|<span style="color:#FFCC00">ese</span>]] <small><sup>[[Project Welcome|<span style="color:Red">WTF!</span>]][[The Randoms|<span style="color:Blue">Random</span>]][[UDWiki:Administration|<span style="color:Green">SysOp?</span>]]</sup></small>
You forget impersonation. --[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 20:35, 6 April 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Cyberbob240]]===
===[[User:Cyberbob240]]===
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This page is for the reporting of vandalism within the Urban Dead wiki, as defined by vandalism policy. On this wiki, the punishment for Vandalism is temporary banning, but due to security concerns, the ability to mete out this punishment is restricted to System Operators. As such, regular users will need to lodge a report for a Vandal to be banned from the wiki. For consistency and accountability, System Operators are requested to note on this board their actions in dealing with Vandals.

Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting

In dealing with Vandalism, time is often of the essence. As such, we ask that all users include the following information in a Vandalism report:

  • A link to the pages in question.
Preferably bolded for visibility. If the Vandalism is occurring over a sufficiently large number of pages, instead include a time range of the vandalism attempt, or alternatively, a link to the first vandalised page. This allows us to quickly find the damage so we can quickly assess the situation.
  • The user name of the Vandal.
This allows us to more easily identify the culprit, and to check details.
  • A signed datestamp.
For accountability purposes, we ask that you record in your request your user name and the time you lodged the report.
  • Please report at the top.
There's conflict with where to post and a lot of the reports are missed. If it's placed at the top of the page it's probably going to be seen and dealt with.

If you see Vandalism in progress, don't wait for System Operators to deal with it, as there may be no System Operator online at the time. Lodge the report, then start reverting pages back to their original form. This can be done by going to the "History" tab at the top of the page, and finding the last edit before the Vandal's attack. When a System Operator is available, they'll assess the situation, and if the report is legitimate, we will take steps to either warn the vandal, or ban them if they are on their second warning.

If the page is long, you can add new reports by editing the top report and placing your new report above its header in the edit screen.

Before Submitting a Report

  • This page, Vandal Banning, deals with bad-faith breaches of official policy.
  • Interpersonal complaints are better sorted out at UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration.
  • As much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort.
  • Avoid submitting reports which are petty.


Vandalism Report Space

Administration Notice
Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits. In most cases it's simply a case of a new user that doesn't know how this wiki works. Sometimes assuming good faith and speaking with others can avoid a lot of drama, and can even help newbies feel part of this community.
Administration Notice
If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment.
Administration Notice
Warned users can remove one entry of their warning history every one month and 250 edits after their last warning. Remember to ask a sysop to remove them in due time. You are as responsible for keeping track of your history as the sysops are; In case of a sysop wrongly punishing you due to an outdated history, he might not be punished for his actions.



April 2009

User:MisterGame

MisterGame (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I am hearby creating a petty case against myself. The empty beer bottle told me so. AnD BeCauSe iTs a SilEnt pROtest agaiNts bORedom.--Thadeous Oakley 20:35, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Spamming up admin pages Vandalism Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp?

You forget impersonation. --Thadeous Oakley 20:35, 6 April 2009 (BST)

User:Cyberbob240

Cyberbob240 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Creating petty cases to harass users he has a history of constant disagreements with.--xoxo 14:30, 6 April 2009 (BST)

llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif Cyberbob Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif 14:35, 6 April 2009 (BST)
good job fagmeister you seem to have missed the part where I gave both those chucklefucks their due warning on their talk pages before bringing it to A/VB Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif Cyberbob Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif 14:36, 6 April 2009 (BST)
First the guideline suggests "discussing the edit" and second, your warning means squat as you were wrong to remove the comments in the first place.--Honestmistake 14:43, 6 April 2009 (BST)

User:Honestmistake

Honestmistake (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

As Midianian. Again requesting a soft warning. Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif Cyberbob Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif 13:51, 6 April 2009 (BST)

and as I keep posting below:
"If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment." I have bolded the important bit for you Bob... there has NEVER been a rule saying that you must not post here only that it is preferred that you don't. --Honestmistake 13:53, 6 April 2009 (BST)


Not Vandalism - There is no policy making that box law and, similar to below, I personally have found Honest's comments to be relevant to the cases being discussed. -- Cheese 20:31, 6 April 2009 (BST)

User:Midianian

Midianian (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Constantly posting comments on the main A/VB page despite not being in any of the three groups described in the box as being allowed to. He hasn't done it enough to warrant a case normally but in this case he has rather explicitly acknowledged that he is going against the box's message. Requesting a soft warning. Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif Cyberbob Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif 11:59, 6 April 2009 (BST)

First, I wasn't "constantly posting comments", merely reverting your removal of one of mine. Second, as I've explained to Bob, the comment is pretty short, relevant to the case and a direct reply to a comment on this page. Third, nowhere did I say I'm going against the box's message, I even said to Bob that the purpose of the notice is not a blanket banisment of all not directly related commentary (the notice was even changed to reflect this, I'll dig up the discussion about it in a bit). --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 12:10, 6 April 2009 (BST)
cool story bro Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif Cyberbob Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif 12:16, 6 April 2009 (BST)
The edit, made by Karek (with related discussion here), has been eaten by the history purge, but you can see the original text of the box on this policy (compare with current text). The text was specifically changed from "strongly asks" to just "asks". I considered the request to post it on the talk page, but decided it was relevant enough to put on the main page. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 13:59, 6 April 2009 (BST)
that was over a year ago brah. get with the times Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif Cyberbob Smug.gif Smug.gif Smug.gif 14:01, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - There is no policy making that box law and I personally have found Mid's comments to be relevant to the cases being discussed. Any ruling of vandalism resulting from spamming admin pages is exactly for that. Contributing usefully to a discussion is not vandalism to my knowledge. -- Cheese 20:31, 6 April 2009 (BST)

User:Ricci Bobby

Ricci Bobby (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

A really odd case. Appears to be an alt of User:Alex1guy, judging by these changes, filling out the original's userpage, signing as (possible) original user, and again, but then does dumb stuff like this and this as if he is a total noob. Maybe someone should go on a IP check and see whats going on here? I don't know if this guy knows how confusing it is for us to sign under his alt. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 08:09, 6 April 2009 (BST)

And THIS. Like what is this guy thinking? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 08:11, 6 April 2009 (BST)

All IP's are falling into a very similar range, so it's probably fair to assume that Ricci Bobby is an alt of Alex1guy. I'll run them through a geolocater and see if that provides any hints. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:16, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Same ISP, same location. Looks like it's an alt. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:18, 6 April 2009 (BST)
I would also like to add, for the possibility of a future case, that the user is modifying others' danger reports one month after he was user-warned for it. I'm explaining it all to the user now. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 08:29, 6 April 2009 (BST)
Thanks. Here's the prior vandalism case. It was over page blanking and removing comments. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:39, 6 April 2009 (BST)

User:Rosslessness

Rosslessness (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Requesting a 1 week Self ban. I have work I should be doing. I hope you can cope. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:17, 5 April 2009 (BST)

Done. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:37, 5 April 2009 (BST)

User:Famke

Famke (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Possible spambot. Only contribution is creating this: Dig Site, The which is about Runescape. External links to some 3rd party site related to it too. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 15:41, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Permabanned and page deleted. =) -- Cheese 18:08, 4 April 2009 (BST)
And another spambit bites the dust!--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 18:44, 4 April 2009 (BST)
I'm so tempted to post up the entire lyrics of Another One Bites the Dust now. =p And yes, those spambits are a real menace. -- Cheese 18:58, 4 April 2009 (BST)
I think we should permanently rename spambots spambits in honor of that mess up of yours. :)--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 19:00, 4 April 2009 (BST)
To A/PD!! =D -- Cheese 19:10, 4 April 2009 (BST)

User:Allies_against_DK13

Allies_against_DK13 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Vandalized DK13's recruitment ad, alternate account of User:The shoemaker.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 05:35, 4 April 2009 (BST)

link and link. It's worth noting that SA has temporarily blocked Shoemaker until another sysop comes and rules. Anyone got any more links to add? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 07:45, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Main (The shoemaker) warned. I'll leave the alt non-banned for now, as I guess this edit could be seen as non-vandalism. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:03, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Actually, being that it consisted of the same stuff that he was saying while vandalizing, and according to this case where he left the same spammy warning on his userpage and it was deleted as a vandal page then Allies against DK13's edit to his talk page could be considered a continuation of his vandalism, thus negating the whole non-vandalism call. But I'm fine with the ruling. :) . Also, thanks for taking care of this guys. I was too tired.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 13:44, 4 April 2009 (BST)
Yeah. I'll see if he keeps vandalizing once he sees the warning. He hasn't even made three edits yet, but it's still a vandal alt, I guess. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:49, 4 April 2009 (BST)
And he appears to have taken it in. Let's hope he stops naw. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:19, 5 April 2009 (BST)

User:ANGUSMCSUCKSUCK

ANGUSMCSUCKSUCK (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Warned for editing a group page and fucking about with an image upload which I've deleted and reuploaded because it went screwy on the revert. I did originally permaban him but I've decided to just issue a warning instead. -- Cheese 19:40, 3 April 2009 (BST)

User:J3D

J3D (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For making 2 petty cases against me on A/M that involved me acting within my rights (deleting a scheduled deletion and banning MYSELF). Clearly this is a personal vendetta. This is harassment and violates this guideline from A/M Cases made to further personal disputes should never be made here, harassment of any user through administration pages may result in vandal escalations. Despite their unique status this basic protection does still apply to Sysops. --– Nubis NWO 11:40, 1 April 2009 (BST)

irony.--xoxo 04:11, 3 April 2009 (BST)

Is there a half-vandalism half-not-vandalism option?

Alright, here's the deal. I personally think that what you did with the image was the right thing to do and well within your rights and is actually part of your job. Jed probably shouldn't have brought the image case up as it was. But I don't agree with a sysop going and punishing themselves over a misconduct case. An actual decision should have happened. Now I know there was a bunch of talking and blathering going on, but all the same a punishment needs to be met out and decided by the rest of the team, not by the one under the scope.

That said, any other sysop plan to say anything on this case? I don't want to rule until I hear other view points.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 18:59, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Seriously though, can we get some input here? It's been long enough for at least one other 'op to say anything about this case, and I know you buggers have seen it!--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:17, 5 April 2009 (BST)
Are you saying that I am not allowed to ban myself under any circumstances? Are you saying that I somehow have more authority over everyone else on A/M and that when I decide a course of action it is the final decision? You can't have it both ways. Either I have some kind of ungranted authority and can decide (but not vote on) my own Misconduct cases or whatever the hell I do has nothing to do with the actual case. You can't bitch at me for finally getting off my ass and making a fucking decision. There were only 2 questions in that case: Who is responsible for de-escalations and what is the penalty for screwing up a ban time? And what was stopping anyone from saying, "Nice ban, now here's your punishment." ?
Why did we add the clause about harassment if we aren't going to use it to protect sysops? Why would it even ever be considered misconduct to ban myself? Seriously. And why would instantly going to Misconduct over a scheduled deletion ever be correct? Don't make policies that you are going to get in trouble for upholding. --– Nubis NWO 08:10, 6 April 2009 (BST)

My problem is that I believe that the cases border (if not cross the line) on Harassment. However I also abhor the idea of dong anything that might prevent regular users from bringing legitimate cases against sysops. The fact the cases themselves were brought is understandable (although also just as obviously not misconduct imho.) Where J3d crosses the line is the language in presenting the case regarding the image edit. No we don't have a civility policy, but the statement "Can the lady reupload so we can finally get the buttons taken off the control freak?"indicates a specific intent when combined with the statements made in this case and the other indicate a bias against, and in this situation harassment of, Nubis. ergo Vandalism. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 19:56, 5 April 2009 (BST)

Do you even understand what you're saying? You're trying to say that because he thinks Nubis should be in trouble for something it's automatically harassment? So, the next time you or I or any other op fucks up, and someone brings a case against us saying "Can someone please demote them for this serious fuck up", I can call it harassment and bring them down with me? Oh, of course as long as it's at least two cases amirite?
You said it yourself, we don't have a civility policy, the statement wasn't over the line. Don't try to use that call this vandalism. Also, of course he's going to have a specific intent of bringing a misconduct case. The fixing of a perceived mistake on a syops along with a punishment, if needed.
If Jed's getting a punishment for asking for a sysops to be demoted in the case, then how come no one else has ever gotten one for asking for a specific punishment?
Jeez Conn, if you're going to try and get a user that you don't like punished, could you use a thicker veil?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:12, 5 April 2009 (BST)
You are the one that asked for input. 1st I don't have anything against J3d, and I think some of the things that has been done in effigy are juvenile at best, however... By Specific intent I mean not calling out a mistake by a sysop but rather calling out a specific sysop to be demoted and not entirely on the merits of this case alone but rather previous incidents as well which are clearly defined within the verbage of J3ds complaint. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 08:02, 6 April 2009 (BST)
Oh.. and by the way... Demote him because of this serious fuck up is a whole lot different than demote him because HE is a serious fuck up. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 08:04, 6 April 2009 (BST)