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This page is for the reporting of vandalism within the Urban Dead wiki, as defined by vandalism policy. On this wiki, the punishment for Vandalism is temporary banning, but due to security concerns, the ability to mete out this punishment is restricted to System Operators. As such, regular users will need to lodge a report for a Vandal to be banned from the wiki. For consistency and accountability, System Operators are requested to note on this board their actions in dealing with Vandals.

Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting

In dealing with Vandalism, time is often of the essence. As such, we ask that all users include the following information in a Vandalism report:

  • A link to the pages in question.
Preferably bolded for visibility. If the Vandalism is occurring over a sufficiently large number of pages, instead include a time range of the vandalism attempt, or alternatively, a link to the first vandalised page. This allows us to quickly find the damage so we can quickly assess the situation.
  • The user name of the Vandal.
This allows us to more easily identify the culprit, and to check details.
  • A signed datestamp.
For accountability purposes, we ask that you record in your request your user name and the time you lodged the report.
  • Please report at the top.
There's conflict with where to post and a lot of the reports are missed. If it's placed at the top of the page it's probably going to be seen and dealt with.

If you see Vandalism in progress, don't wait for System Operators to deal with it, as there may be no System Operator online at the time. Lodge the report, then start reverting pages back to their original form. This can be done by going to the "History" tab at the top of the page, and finding the last edit before the Vandal's attack. When a System Operator is available, they'll assess the situation, and if the report is legitimate, we will take steps to either warn the vandal, or ban them if they are on their second warning.

If the page is long, you can add new reports by editing the top report and placing your new report above its header in the edit screen.

Before Submitting a Report

  • This page, Vandal Banning, deals with bad-faith breaches of official policy.
  • Interpersonal complaints are better sorted out at UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration.
  • As much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort.
  • Avoid submitting reports which are petty.


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August 2009

Super Nweb

Super Nweb (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For an old edit that seems to have somehow slipped through the net. [1]. Zeug has clarified on my talk page that it wasn't a wanted edit. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:50, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Vandalism Cyberbob  Talk  04:09, 12 August 2009 (BST)

J3D (2)

J3D (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For adding the sysop template to his user page, when he isnt. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 18:42, 10 August 2009 (BST)

My opinion is that we can probably count this as bad faith because there's no good reason for claiming to be a sysop when you aren't. My ruling is for vandalism. However, given the lack of precedent, I will leave this for a while to allow the other sysops to comment.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 21:10, 10 August 2009 (BST)

See talk page Cyberbob  Talk  04:52, 11 August 2009 (BST)

As General - there's really no reason as to why it should be there, and having a sysop template on a non-sysop user page will only cause confusion and drama. Vandalism. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:16, 10 August 2009 (BST)

Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Moderator. Why should this be anything other than a need for arbies? The Moderation template hasn't been accurate for a long time now and J3D can put whatever he likes on his userpage. Are you saying the fact he is active means he has no right to leave it there among all the inactive sysops who still have theirs? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 23:16, 10 August 2009 (BST)

They didn't actually add it to their pages after they were demoted, though, so you can't say for sure whether they simply forgot about it. J3D has actively created a situation whereby he may be misconstrued as a sysop. That's the difference. Cyberbob  Talk  23:24, 10 August 2009 (BST)
All J3D would have had to do is just add this when he was a sysop and leave it there then, because of "historical" value? And then it's all right? Unless there is a standard format for this template where all ex-sysops must have it stripped from their page upon demotion, what jed did is just poor form. Not Vandalism. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 23:35, 10 August 2009 (BST)
No, leaving it there is poor form. Actively going and adding it is on the same level (as I said below) as posting a bolded "ruling" on A/VB. Should we go and unbold every ruling made ever by people who aren't sysops anymore? Of course not, but that wouldn't make one of them trying to make a ruling now any less vandalism. Cyberbob  Talk  23:39, 10 August 2009 (BST)
No, because bolding a ruling is exercising Sysop abilities which don't belong to the regular user. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:37, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - I would count this as the same sort of thing as bolding one's own "ruling". It's passing yourself off as a sysop, which I believe counts as impersonation (thanks for the link Whitehouse, I was having trouble framing my point). Cyberbob  Talk  23:24, 10 August 2009 (BST)

Poor form but not vandalism. As DDR. -- Cheese 00:52, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Bob had this for how many years and it was okay? I was a sysop so by your (very dodgy) argument i still have just as much right to have it there as he did.--xoxo 01:34, 11 August 2009 (BST)

I believe I already explained the difference between forgetting to remove it and actively adding it. Cyberbob  Talk  03:09, 11 August 2009 (BST)
The problem is, to the community, as the ones being deceived, there is no difference. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:35, 11 August 2009 (BST)
I know that - I'm talking about intentions. Cyberbob  Talk  04:46, 11 August 2009 (BST)
So you care more about what J3D was trying to do, than the actual problem it creates? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:21, 11 August 2009 (BST)
Intention is the primary factor which determines whether or not an action was bad faith. --The General T Sys U! P! F! 10:21, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Well, I was going to say not vandalism, until I noticed that he had already replaced the moderator template with the ex-moderator template back in January. To put it back again now, is impersonation. More drama for drama's sake, so vandalism -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:00 11 August 2009 (BST)

See talk page Cyberbob  Talk  04:52, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Make a policy that says i can't lie on my talk page and then call me. I've been putting lying templates on my pages for years and until then i didn't know it was against the rules.--xoxo 00:26, 12 August 2009 (BST)

second paragraph of this policy. By using the sysop template you are impersonation to be one --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:56, 12 August 2009 (BST)
See talk page Cyberbob  Talk  04:13, 12 August 2009 (BST)

J3D

J3D (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

enough is enough. I am tired of seeing 2 cool propaganda all over the wiki where such group has no merit for being cited. Its not even funny! --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 18:42, 10 August 2009 (BST)

Not sure you can really count this as vandalism. A/VB isn't intended for page editing disbutes. Revert it and take him to arbitration if he continues. If you can demonstrate consistent and widespread spamming then I will change my ruling but at present Not Vandalism.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 21:05, 10 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - This is a case for arbies. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 23:10, 10 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - As DDR. This is the exact sort of thing Arbitration is there to handle. Cyberbob  Talk  23:17, 10 August 2009 (BST)

User:NorseGod

User:NorseGod (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

[2] and [3]. Perma'd as per the 3-edit clause of the Guidelines. --ϑϑ 11:17, 9 August 2009 (BST)

User:The Colonel

The Colonel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

This piece of art. Basically he replaced an image on a page which was not his, with the same image only with a drawn dick over it.--Thadeous Oakley 10:23, 7 August 2009 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob  Talk  11:20, 7 August 2009 (BST)
On the contrary, he is helping in making the event much better than the other years. He has permission to edit that page. --Haliman - Talk 20:41, 7 August 2009 (BST)
I demand 2 things, 1 this to be stricken I'm helping run the fifth of November this year, I showed Mega and he approved everything. 2: Thadeous Oakley to find the nearest thing of bleach, and swallow it. That is all. I don't hold anything against Bob he's just doing his job before knowing all the facts. -- Emot-argh.gif 22:08, 7 August 2009 (BST)
more on the talk page --ϑϑ 02:12, 8 August 2009 (BST)
Not vandalism, he looks to be part of the group, and so has ownership rights to the page. Obviously guilty of bad taste though -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:19 7 August 2009 (BST)
Huh. I did consider the possibility that he was involved with the event or had permission but I couldn't find anything to show it. Was permission given off-site? Cyberbob  Talk  03:03, 8 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - He had permission from Hal. --ϑϑ 02:21, 8 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - although I don't blame Bob for warning him in the first place - I had to look to find evidence of his involvement (and that should always be checked by the person reporting the case anyway). Warning struck. Linkthewindow  Talk  03:05, 8 August 2009 (BST)

Where was it? I thought I looked everywhere. Cyberbob  Talk  03:06, 8 August 2009 (BST)
5th_of_November/2009#User.27s_Running_it. Linkthewindow  Talk  03:07, 8 August 2009 (BST)
Ugh. I checked the talk page, the talk pages of everyone I could find that looked like they were in charge but not the bottom of the page itself. That's really depressing. Cyberbob  Talk  03:11, 8 August 2009 (BST)

User:EllenUNO

EllenUNO (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Looks like advertising to me, the only original part of that is the signature and link at the end. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 17:38, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Could be adbottery but I doubt it, it is probably a real person, so I'm ruling Vandalism. Thanks for removing it too, Boberton. --ϑϑ 03:45, 5 August 2009 (BST)
I'm calling this one as a well-coded Adbot. Cyberbob  Talk  04:41, 5 August 2009 (BST)
Simply copying the first paragraph or two from the main page, and pasting it onto the talk page, and then slapping an advertising link on the end... adbot (or an extremely poorly coded human). I permbanned it -- boxy talkteh rulz 06:32 5 August 2009 (BST)

User:BlueSpurt

BlueSpurt (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Changing the listed frequency for Creedy. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 08:33, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Not vandalism - please talk to him, and if that doesn't work, use arbies -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:23 4 August 2009 (BST)
It could be someone thinking that the listed is editable and pickable by anyone (which is technically true). Given that they seem to be a newbie, that looks even more like the case. You really should check with the users before bringing them here. (Edit conflict. You god damn cubes. >:/)-- High Overlord and Lead Conspirator of the Administrative Rebellion. Want help? 09:26, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - he's a newbie, this could be anything as simple as him entering Creedy in-game and noticing that a different radio wave was mistakenly being used, and changed it to suit. There's nothing to say he wasn't trying to just help out. --ϑϑ 10:27, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - pretty much as DDR. Remember to assume good faith. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:24, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - "Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits. In most cases it's simply a case of a new user that doesn't know how this wiki works." Cyberbob  Talk  12:28, 4 August 2009 (BST)

User:Justinbronze

Justinbronze (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

This could be a simple newbie mistake, or he's outright deleting kill votes on his own suggestion. But I'll leave the judging to you people.--Thadeous Oakley 17:41, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism. This could have been solved with a question on his talk page rather than coming to A/VB. "Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits." Cyberbob  Talk  17:50, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism. It was a mistake, caused by my mediocre skills with computer coding. I screwed up the coding, which must have accidentally deleted his vote. My humblest apologies. --Justinbronze 23:29, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Even though the outcome has been pretty much decided I'm am still "officially" withdrawing this case for what it's worth but mainly to comfort Justin. Also, Justin, please note that by bolding Not Vandalism it looks like your ruling on this case. Only sysops can rule on cases so please unbold that part.--Thadeous Oakley 23:34, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Don't worry Thad, nobody will accuse you of being a bully. Cyberbob  Talk  03:28, 3 August 2009 (BST)
Well, maybe Boberton. But that's all! Cyberbob  Talk  03:40, 3 August 2009 (BST)
I'd do it too.-- High Overlord and Lead Conspirator of the Administrative Rebellion. Want help? 04:29, 3 August 2009 (BST)

Case closed as Not Vandalism/Withdrawn. --ϑϑ 02:31, 3 August 2009 (BST)

User:Sevatividam

Sevatividam (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Just spotted this lovely bit. Delta isn't the vandal on that page. He was trying to fix everything. --Haliman - Talk 17:53, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob  Talk  18:11, 1 August 2009 (BST)