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JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz

Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- SomethingSomething.gif 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Sister Mary

moved from main page

Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.
Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).
Southpark tearlick.gif--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.

Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. Aichon 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).

Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.----RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User: Revenant

Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

User:The Goth Store Owner

*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --KCLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

So quiet

* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. Aichon 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. -- Spiderzed 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Foiled again by the cabal. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --hagnat 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC) =June 2010=

June 2010

User:DanceDanceRevolution

  • Delete it. Then we don't have to deal with it at all! -- User:Jordan Salafack » JS talk contribs » 10:52, 8 June 2010 (BST)
    Only sysops can rule in VB cases, and hence this vote. Should have made that more clear. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 10:53, 8 June 2010 (BST)
    Oh. Sorry. -- User:Jordan Salafack » JS talk contribs » 10:55, 8 June 2010 (BST)

DDR's comment vote

Where should DDR's comment (hence including the resultant comments from Jorm and DDR which are still on the page) be kept?

DDR tricked me in to making this, and Boxy has reminded me that it holds no value and this matter is in arbitration already. So yeah, whatever, remove this vote, Misconduct me or whatever's appropriate.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:38, 8 June 2010 (BST)
Or someone tricked me. I have no idea. I'm too confused and hence shall have nothing more to do with this issue.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:38, 8 June 2010 (BST)
I'm withdrawing the arbitration case. This can hold as much value as the ops allow, which, since Boxy's only reasoning is that he's overruled your (another op) action that it shouldn't be a problem for him either. -- 12:09, 8 June 2010 (BST)

Sysops only.

Main Page
Talk Page
  1. If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:10, 8 June 2010 (BST)
  2. Talk.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:15, 8 June 2010 (BST)
  3. First off, I hate having my hand forced like this on an issue that we don't need to rule on. That out of the way, I understand why boxy put it where he did, and it definitely quieted the situation at the time. I'm not convinced of whether it was the right or wrong decision. I like Mis' proposed arbitration ruling however, since it's a fair compromise, so it's my first choice. But, barring that, those comments should be on the talk page. Aichon 12:20, 8 June 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - Given that Bance Bance is an experienced user and past sysop, his comments on admin pages are often helpful to the team, there's been times where he's hurried us along with something we've overlooked, and anyone insulting wiki trolls is always welcome. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 16:14, 8 June 2010 (BST)

No they are not.... or at least they should not be. DDR has continued to comment here despite no longer being a sysop.... often his comments are useful and just as often they are not. If the talk page is where every other none sysop must post then he should have the decency to follow that (stupid) rule himself. He knows better and he has history for enforcing such on others hence my request for the reminder. TBH this case was as much about reminding him that none sysops can have valid opinions as anything else, particularly important as he is most likely going to be [re]promoted. --Honestmistake 22:35, 8 June 2010 (BST)
No one is required to use the talk page, it's just preferred. There is no rule forcing comments to the talk page, so regardless of whether said rule would be stupid or not, he can't break it if it's not there. You may be confusing an old arbitration that banned one user from front-page admin posting for a blanket rule. Since no one is prohibited from posting here at present, I see no reason why his comments, most of which I find useful, should be warrant enough for an escalation. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 22:48, 8 June 2010 (BST)
Plus, if we held those admin notices at the top of the page as law, then we should technically bring a case against you as well, since you didn't contact DDR on his talk page in an effort to sort out this situation first. Those notices are guidelines, and while pushing them too far will get you in trouble eventually, there's a lot of leeway in how they're applied and handled. Aichon 00:21, 9 June 2010 (BST)
Too late. I recieved an actual vandal escalation from DDR (and Bob) for commenting on this page a while back so I know for a fact that the rules for posting here are considered "Law" by DDR at least. That said, it was never a rule I agreed with as what one person considers useful and meaningful comment can easily be seen as neither by others. --Honestmistake 09:22, 9 June 2010 (BST)
Whoa whoa whoa hold up. You've just made two mistakes that I thought you might make eventually: 1. trying to relate this in any way to your own escalation for the same thing, and 2. Basically admitting that escalation was your reasoning for your request in this case. Your escalation was worlds away from this, you had displayed horrible, horrible abuse of leniency on a scale much quantitatively larger than what I have done here, and the edit that brought on the case was much, much worse than this, to the point that it literally said "this will be moved but FUCK THE OPS" and that was about it, if I remember right. I'm not trying to say you are a brat, but I just don't think these two cases apply. Having said that, I'm already happy to receive a soft warning for derogatory comments because I think it's a fair thing to do, I just think the comparison between our cases was much larger than should be applied here. -- 12:25, 9 June 2010 (BST)
One of these days you're going to figure out that you're actually a pretty whiny guy and that it would be better for your image if you didn't try to write ~kIlLeR tExT wAlLz Of DoOm~ in response to literally every single mentioning of your name. Do you realise that you are basically the easiest person to bait on the Internet? I mean I got a reaction out of you on Boxy's talk page without even meaning to - shit, I didn't even mention your name. Seriously - take a step back for awhile. Cyberbob  Talk  18:42, 9 June 2010 (BST)
You do realise you just stepped into something that had absolutely nothing to do with you (again), just to say that, right? -- 06:52, 11 June 2010 (BST)
If I had a dollar for all the times you've done the same I'd be positively rolling in cash. Might as well throw in a line about glass houses to the advice I have for you. Cyberbob  Talk  08:23, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Aaaah who am I kiding? You won't change. You'll keep on keeping on with your delusions of martyrdom and everyone else will keep right on feeding them. Nothing ever changes on this wiki. Cyberbob  Talk  08:28, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Lol. Likewise, except my fortune would come with the percentage of yours done over the total amount of edits you make. At leased I do other stuff on the wiki. I could go the obvious and say the irony here is astounding, but I think in the general view of it all the most fitting and true thing to say is of all people to give me advice yours is the one I'd most happily ignore. -- 08:51, 11 June 2010 (BST)
That is one of the most awkward attempts at a burn I've ever seen. I'm curious, are you an only child? Cyberbob  Talk  10:11, 11 June 2010 (BST)

User:Jorm

I consider myself an involved party, and shall not be ruling.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:58, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Meh. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 23:02, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Vandalism. Argh. I used to like that guy. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 21:03, 6 June 2010 (BST)

I hear ya. Never met Jorm before, but I had expected something better from the person founding the MOB, Nexuswar and Barhar.com --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 22:04, 6 June 2010 (BST)
It's BARHAH dot com. BARHAH. "Barhar" is what douchebag harmans say.--Jorm 08:04, 7 June 2010 (BST)
I know this will get moved to talk, but WHAT THE FUCK. This is why roleplaying is dead in this game. All it can take is for one shitbrain to fuck it up the arse and the fun is ruined. Goddamn it. -- 03:10, 7 June 2010 (BST)
The "fun" was ruined once you 'shitbrains' applied fucking rules to it. Also, get the fuck off my IRC server, you douchetard, if you're that upset with me. I don't want you there.--Jorm 08:04, 7 June 2010 (BST)
If you can't have fun within rules then fuck off to your own fucking dead wiki for your own fucking dead game. Also, you're the one that's upset with us obviously, so I'll make this clear: you don't want me on your IRC server, you fucking ban me from it, dickwad. You cunts over at Nexuswar IRC are all lube and no fucking. jeez. -- 09:08, 7 June 2010 (BST)
Done, actually. You're now permabanned from my IRC server. Glad that worked out for you! --Jorm 09:24, 7 June 2010 (BST)
No worries, and so your butthurt power tripping is proven worse than anything wiki ops have ever done. Glad doing business with you. -- 09:28, 7 June 2010 (BST)
What the fucking fuck. This is completely fucking retarded. Jorm, you were in the wrong, but I'm not going to insult you over it. DDR, didn't have to insult. You're both being silly, tbh.-- Adward  17:11, 7 June 2010 (BST)
He's desperately trying to apply power wherever he can get it, to spite me. It's hilarious. He banned me from his own IRC server (just make new account much?) and he's also trying to meatpuppet a promotions bid, which is idiocy in itself. It's lolicious. -- 05:40, 8 June 2010 (BST)
DDR is also a faggot and should be banned for being one. Stop defending him. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:32, 8 June 2010 (BST)
omg stop harazzing me -- 05:40, 8 June 2010 (BST)