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::That's hardly a reflection on the system, I tend to think it's more indicative of the fact that almost everything and its dog has been suggested. Making it easier for noobs to repeat that or make idiot suggestions isn't what I'd be for doing. There was a time 2 years ago where we nearly made it mandatory for all suggestions to go through [[DS]] because it seemed so necessary for a good suggestion to go through that step before it entered the suggestions system. this is a step in the opposite direction. And in terms of the technical aspect, I think Aichon has already explained why the difficult templating and stuff is required. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 15:37, 31 July 2011 (BST)
::That's hardly a reflection on the system, I tend to think it's more indicative of the fact that almost everything and its dog has been suggested. Making it easier for noobs to repeat that or make idiot suggestions isn't what I'd be for doing. There was a time 2 years ago where we nearly made it mandatory for all suggestions to go through [[DS]] because it seemed so necessary for a good suggestion to go through that step before it entered the suggestions system. this is a step in the opposite direction. And in terms of the technical aspect, I think Aichon has already explained why the difficult templating and stuff is required. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 15:37, 31 July 2011 (BST)
:::[[DS]] came about to prevent spam on the main suggestions system, which is does spectacularly well. And it's plenty easy to make a suggestion on there. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:04, 31 July 2011 (BST)
:::[[DS]] came about to prevent spam on the main suggestions system, which is does spectacularly well. And it's plenty easy to make a suggestion on there. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:04, 31 July 2011 (BST)
::::As Aichon stated if you can read you can follow the directions to post up a suggestion. The only change to the suggestion system I'd like would be to make [[DS]] mandatory even though I think most folks assume it is or take it there first anyways. In short it'd be simplest to leave it alone.{{User:Mazu/sig}}  02:59, 1 August 2011 (BST)


==Meh==
==Meh==

Revision as of 01:59, 1 August 2011

I can haz reading comprehension

It really isn't that bad if you read. Granted there is quite a bit to read when starting a new suggestion. That's probably why newbies so often get it wrong. I don't think i'd support a change toj suggestions honestly. Let it be somewhat akward to help weed out the bad ones. ~Vsig.png 06:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Plus, so many of the suggestions retread the same territory over and over again, which is why we need the datestamp as part of the page name. As long as we have that, newbies will always have to follow some instructions that are unusual when they create the page. Very few of them seem to have any trouble with the stuff after that unless they're just completely illiterate. Or, at least that was the case when I stopped paying attention to Suggestions around the start of the year. Aichon 07:33, 31 July 2011 (BST)

Read it and you should be fine. start thinking about the future instead of talking about the 'good ol days' and you might be fine. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 07:41, 31 July 2011 (BST)

its thinking about the future that i opened this discussion, to make it easy for newbs to make suggestions. The current suggestion system was useful in the past, when there were many suggestions being made in the same day... today, we barely have 3 active suggestions for a 14-days period --hagnat 15:29, 31 July 2011 (BST)
That's hardly a reflection on the system, I tend to think it's more indicative of the fact that almost everything and its dog has been suggested. Making it easier for noobs to repeat that or make idiot suggestions isn't what I'd be for doing. There was a time 2 years ago where we nearly made it mandatory for all suggestions to go through DS because it seemed so necessary for a good suggestion to go through that step before it entered the suggestions system. this is a step in the opposite direction. And in terms of the technical aspect, I think Aichon has already explained why the difficult templating and stuff is required. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 15:37, 31 July 2011 (BST)
DS came about to prevent spam on the main suggestions system, which is does spectacularly well. And it's plenty easy to make a suggestion on there. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 16:04, 31 July 2011 (BST)
As Aichon stated if you can read you can follow the directions to post up a suggestion. The only change to the suggestion system I'd like would be to make DS mandatory even though I think most folks assume it is or take it there first anyways. In short it'd be simplest to leave it alone.       02:59, 1 August 2011 (BST)

Meh

The suggestion system is useless anyway, at least today. Users say what they want and not want, and Kevan puts it in, or most likely doesn't put it in, regardless of review status. (Or anything else for that matter.) The only tangible use the community review has is weeding out the completely fubar stuff (spam, dupes, humourous suggestions). Any reform of the suggestions system should first look at what it actually _achieves_ at the end of the day, and then cut away the fat to lead it to that achievement with the least amount of rules and red tape. -- Spiderzed 12:15, 31 July 2011 (BST)

We should pester Kevan into implementing some of the better peer reviewed suggestions. How to narrow down the list to an amount he'd even think of checking through I'm not sure.        02:50, 1 August 2011 (BST)

Meh, #2

About 5 years ago, I did something stupid in the suggestions system and was called out on it. The end result was a self-imposed exile from that namespace.

To tell you the truth, I haven't missed being a part of the suggestions system at all. Maybe if some others took the same attitude, Suggestions would be a happier and more productive place. Asheets 23:30, 31 July 2011 (BST)

Why suggest?

Is there any evidence of active coding ongoing for the game?

There must be years of decent suggestions already out there that have never seen the light of day. Also going by the commentary so far maybe a more visible disclaimer on a shortened page could be used.

It could be as short as: "Don't bother, it's already been ridiculed and voted down." --UroguyTMZ 23:37, 31 July 2011 (BST)