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'''Keep Votes'''
#'''Keep''' Might be useful to some degree, so I'll give a keep. [[User:Nemesis645|Nemesis645]] 16:49, 18 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' I like it. Pker's probably will as well. Also gives GPS a use that Metagaming can't.[[User:Legion8|Legion8]] 07:07, 16 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Nice touch, and nobody gets forced into anything. *votes*--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 10:57, 16 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Worth the risk. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 20:07, 17 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Keeps the game balanced between those who use it to kill humans and those who use it to kill zombies. Also adds to a somewhat useless item. --[[User:Koryr|Koryr]] <sup>[[User Talk:Koryr|T]] [[The_Abandoned|<span title="The Abandoned">TA</span>]] [[Yagoton|<span title="Yagoton">Y</span>]] [[Yagoton_Revivification_Clinic|<span title="Yagoton Revivification Clinic">YRC</span>]]</sup> 03:50, 18 May 2009 (BST)
#'''As for griefing''' I don't think it'll harm anyone too much. First off, most griefers don't target any one specific person. It's more about attacking a room of strangers than a single person. And if they do choose to hunt down a single person, they'd have to find them in the 100 square area of a suburb. Not impossible, but it requires a lot of AP that could otherwise be spent harassing many other people. As for assassinating group leaders - most group leaders would prefer they get killed once or twice but attract many more allies to their cause. And should it ever become too much of a problem a person can just turn off their GPS until their griefer moves on. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 15:31, 18 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Strong Keep''' This sound perfect. useful for zombies, survivors and PKers, and makes a practacly ueless item have a purpose. Strong Keep. --[[User:Ben A Martin]]
#'''Keep''' Good, allows more usage of the GPS. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 17:33, 30 May 2009 (BST)
'''Kill Votes'''
#'''Kill''' Too useful for griefers. Even if you're just using it for your group, griefers will abuse it. --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 12:52, 16 May 2009 (BST)
# I have to agree, this would seem to be pretty abuseable.  Maybe it if was MUTUAL contacts, that would be better.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 20:53, 16 May 2009 (BST)
#*'''Re''' The main reason I don't limit it to mutual contacts is that people usually add enemies to their contacts! Seems unreasonable that adding enemies to your list should be the only thing letting them track your GPS. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 15:11, 18 May 2009 (BST)
#**True, but maybe something could be add to (maybe by color) to keep "enemies" from being affected.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 02:53, 19 May 2009 (BST)  Also, this could hurt zombie anonymity and, lastly, REing every negative vote can be construed as vandalism.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 02:55, 19 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - as above. Also, I feel it's rather unnecessary. And the on/off switch kind of makes it moot... I'd actually prefer it if it were "all or nothing", there's something more consistent and less "gamey" about that. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:15, 17 May 2009 (BST)
#*'''Re''' I would agree, except I don't want to force anyone currently using GPS units to change their behavior if they don't want to. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 15:14, 18 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Further taking zombies out of the game, this is just another survivor/PKer toy.  Also, it's completely unnecessary.  If you want to keep in touch with people, get a mobile phone.--[[User:Necrofeelinya|Necrofeelinya]] 21:30, 18 May 2009 (BST)
#*'''Re''' This would potentially be insanely useful for zombies. They need this more than survivors do. They can't talk! By carrying active GPS units zombie groups could follow a leader from suburb to suburb, then find their allies through feeding groans. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 02:18, 19 May 2009 (BST)
'''Spam/Dupe Votes'''
#'''You can have [[PR_Equipment_Change#GPS_Mutual_Contacts_Location_v1|Version 1]] or [[PR_Equipment_Change#GPS_Mutual_Contacts_Location_v2|Version 2]] or [[PR_Equipment_Change#GPS_Broadcast_Location_To_Contacts|yet another one]]''' - Version 2 even includes the mutual contacts restriction that is the source of most of your kill votes. Jesus H. Me, that's three from one page before I even hit the rest of the archive, do you not even make a token attempt to check these? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:26, 20 May 2009 (BST)
#*'''Re''' Every single one of those requires mutual contacts, and a complex "approve" or "reject" system to allow individual people to track you. They also give a precise position. This is much less powerful, and much easier to set up. Carry a GPS, turn it on, people can see your general area. That is all. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 14:46, 22 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Dupe''' - Iscariot, you are the best. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 02:35, 20 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Dupe''' - Was going to kill it for reasons above, but Iscariot did his homework again. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:18, 24 May 2009 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Uh.... since when do GPS units have contacts? [[User:Akrofedguy]] 17:46 28 May 2009
#Iscariot dropped the Dupe nuke on this one. (<- Can you say lame ass joke?  Yes you can...) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 14:50, 31 May 2009 (BST)
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*''Server Load'' and ''Programming Complexity'' are NOT very good '''Kill''' reasons.  You are voting on the merit of the suggestion and whether or not you think it belongs in the game. Server load/complexity issues are up to Kevan to decide.
*''Server Load'' and ''Programming Complexity'' are NOT very good '''Kill''' reasons.  You are voting on the merit of the suggestion and whether or not you think it belongs in the game. Server load/complexity issues are up to Kevan to decide.
*''X should be implemented first'' is not a valid reason for a vote. You are voting on the merit of THIS suggestion, not how it compares to others.
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#**'''Re''' - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes [[Example page|here]]. --[[Example page|NegativeGal]] 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
#**'''Re''' - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes [[Example page|here]]. --[[Example page|NegativeGal]] 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
#<s>'''Kill''' - You will eat my poopie and love it! --[[Example page|PooEater]] 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)</s>
#<s>'''Kill''' - You will eat my poopie and love it! --[[Example page|PooEater]] 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)</s>
#*'''Note''' - Inane vote removed. Defend in discussion. --[[Example page|DaModerator]] 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
#*'''Note''' - Vote based on suggester, not suggestion. Removed. Defend in discussion. --[[Example page|DaModerator]] 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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#'''Spam''' - ''Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels'' is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --[[Example page|NoFunAtAll]] 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
#'''Spam''' - ''Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels'' is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --[[Example page|NoFunAtAll]] 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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Voting Rules
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Invalid Votes
  • Server Load and Programming Complexity are NOT very good Kill reasons. You are voting on the merit of the suggestion and whether or not you think it belongs in the game. Server load/complexity issues are up to Kevan to decide.
  • X should be implemented first is not a valid reason for a vote. You are voting on the merit of THIS suggestion, not how it compares to others.
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Keep Votes

  1. Keep - I am the author and I am allowed to vote once on my own suggestions. --MrSuggester 05:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Keep - Best. Suggestion. Evar. --Bob_Zombie 04:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  3. Keep - Good sugestion. no signature --FakeSuggester 07:39, 15 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Kill Votes

  1. Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Re - Please be more specific about how to fix it on the discussion page. --MrSuggester 14:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
      • Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Kill - You will eat my poopie and love it! --PooEater 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Note - Vote based on suggester, not suggestion. Removed. Defend in discussion. --DaModerator 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Dupe - Duplicate Suggestion --AnotherSuggester 05:01, 14 Nov 2005 (GMT)



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