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==Purpose of this Poll==
{{Custom Title|right|2=<span style="font-family: Impact;">5th of November (2012): Zombie POV</span>}}
Over the last five years, Urban Dead has matured as a game, and with that maturity, both the number and themes of Urban Dead groups has grown. Currently, all groups are listed in their suburb(s)  
[[Category:Ridleybank Resistance Front]]
of choice under one of three categories: Survivor, Zombie, or Hostile. The purpose of this poll is very simple:
* Given the diverse growth of group types over the last couple of years (PKer, GKer, Dual-Nature, Life-cultist, Death-cultist, the Penultimate Zombie-Killing God with a Suborbital Laser Cannon, etc), do we, as a community, feel that our current classifications:
:#accurately describe or classify the groups that do exist in a given suburb.
:#are actually useful as an information resource for players?
:#allow Group Leaders, especially new ones, to classify their group in a suburb both easily and quickly, with little confusion in classifier meaning?
* If we feel the current system falls short, what criteria are important to us as a community? What, exactly, do we want to see changed?
* If we feel the current system falls short, is there a better system?


==Polling Guidelines ==
{| style="margin: auto auto; border: solid 1px #AAA; width: 80%; padding: 5px 5px 5px 0; background: #F9F9F9; font-size: 95%; -moz-border-radius:12px"
This poll is divided into four sections:  
| style="background: DarkGreen; color: white; font-size: 100%; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; width: 100%; height: auto; -moz-border-radius:6px" | '''Danger! Danger! Danger! Zombie POV '''
*The '''first section''' will ask if you are satisfied with the current suburb group classification system.
|-
:#Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath either "I am satisfied with the current system." or "I am not satisfied with the current system."
| style="font-size: 90%; text-align: left; line-height: auto; background: auto; color: auto; padding: auto" | This is a Pro-Zombie version of the 5th of November, a survivor event that took place during November 2012. This article has been both heavily edited and propagandized for maximum <s>survivor</s> cattle-killing fun. If you believe that destroying small groups of feral zombie children with howitzers and tactical nuclear strikes is more your cup of tea, well, you probably won't enjoy this page.
:#These are the only two options.
|}
*The '''second section''' will ask for your opinion on whether classifying groups more accurately or avoiding conflict between groups over listings is more important to you.
:#Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath the choice that you agree most with.
:#Please only select '''one''' (or none).
*The '''third section''' will ask for your opinion on how the system should be changed, if it is changed. Please indicate whether you would like to see more group classifications, less group classifications, or simply a change in the language. 
:#Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath the choice that you agree most with.
:#Please only select '''one''' (or none).
*The '''final section''' presents a list of alternative naming conventions proposed by the community.  
:#Please  number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath the new classification systems that you agree with.
:#'''You may choose as many as you like.''' The order has been randomly selected.
*Please limit discussion to the talk page.


==Things to keep in mind==
*The UD wiki is a gaming resource. Individual suburb pages should be as informative as possible, especially for new players who may not know the history of a suburb. Likewise, group classifications should also be as informative as possible. We should strive for a system such that a new player can goto a suburb page and at a glance, know:
:#How many groups are in / have been in that suburb.
:#What type of group are they.
:#What those type classifiers actually mean.
*Any classification system we choose should be able to classify a wide range of group types that currently exist in Urban Dead. Before you finish this poll, please go to the talk page, read the sample list of groups pulled from a variety of suburbs, and ask yourself the following:
::"Can the current/proposed system I am looking at now classify this list of groups '''easily'''?"
*Any classification system we choose should be easy to understand, especially for new players. As you read the poll, pretend you are a new group leader who barely knows how make a group page, and ask yourself the following:
::"Do I at a glance know what all these divisions mean in a given classification system, and is it easy for me to place my group into one of those divisions?"
*'''THIS IS NOT A VOTE.''' This is merely a tool for us, as a community, to (hopefully) come to some form of a consensus on how we feel about the current system, and whether or not there may be a better one. Please keep this in mind as you read the poll.


=Poll=
{{war|
==The current system lists groups as either: Survivor, Zombie, or Hostile. Do you wish to change this classification system?==
title=5th of November, 2012|
Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath one of the two answers below. You may select '''only one.'''
image=[[Image:Rrfposter03.jpg|200px|center]]|
===I do not wish to see the system changed. I am either '''satisfied''' with the current classification system, or I do not care what classifications are used.===
date=November 4th, 2012 - November 6th, 2012|
place=[[Ridleybank]], in and around the [[Blackmore Building]], perhaps the most boring building in the game.|
result=Zombies were unable to prevent the mass suicide of Survivors.|
side1=The November 5th Cult|
groups1=
[[Axes High]],
[[Blackmore Bastard Brigade]],
[[Channel 4 News Team]],
[[Creedy Defense Force]],
[[Dr. schwan’s Research and Development Team]],
[[The Fortress]],
[[Malton College of Medicine]],
[[Malton Civil Defense Unit]],
[[Malton Forensics Unit]].|
side2=Zombies|
groups2=[[RRF]], Stunned Onlookers|
commander1=???|
commander2=Irishmen (Papa of the [[RRF]]|
strength1=Ideological State Apparatus|
strength2=Lack of pants|
casualties1=The entire cult|
casualties2=Belief in the human spirit to endure|
}}


===I do wish to see the system changed. I am '''not satisfied''' with the current classification system.===
The [[5th of November/2012|5th of November]] was a group of survivors based around the [[Blackmore Building]], a [[Necrotech| Necrotech Building]] in the zombie-held suburb of [[Ridleybank]]. On November 4th, concerned members of the [[RRF|Ridleybank Resistance Front]] entered Blackmore and discovered more than seventy frantic survivors inside. Despite the heroic efforts of Resistance members to calm the situation, the RRF was unable to prevent the tragic loss of the November 5th group, who believed that optimal UD siege strategy involved a carefully orchestrated, cult-based mass suicide.


==Improved Classification vs Conflict Resolution==
==Overview==
There are two main reasons for the desire to change the current classification system:
===Prologue===
:*To improve the scope, accuracy or ease-of-use for classifying suburb groups.
:*To help decrease or stop conflicts caused by disagreements in how groups are listed.
Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath the statement that best describes your reasons for wanting change. You may select '''only one.'''


===The scope of the current classification system is limited and I feel it should be changed to reflect how the game has evolved.===
On November 3rd, 5th of November members began infiltrating Ridleybank in small groups, looking to establish a small foothold in the zombie-controlled suburb. Led by the DEM, the Army Control Corps, and the Knights Templar, the group built a stronghold at the Blackmore bulding, a little known derelict structure where nothing of consequence ever happens. Like ever. Most residents of Ridleybank were puzzled at first by these strange visitors. Were these new immigrants simply lost? Or were they baked out of their f*cking minds, hoping to score some sweet Funyuns in the middle of the zombie homeland?


===I feel the current system should be changed to decrease or eliminate conflicts over how groups are classified.===
Whatever the reason, the actions of the new arrivals were quickly noticed by the zombie officials in Ridleybank. Human intrusions have long been a welcome part of Ridleybank's storied history, ranging from survivors groups hoping to fulfill their ultimate dream of being ground up by an industrial grinder and dumped off a bridge, to those looking for the penultimate, final battle that would finally restore hope to Malton and give humans something to believe in again.


===Both improved classification and reduced conflicts are equally important to me===
At first, RRF leaders began to believe that this November 5th would be different than before. That it would be special; something to cherish, and something to remember and pass down to future generations. But RRF officials soon became concerned when Ridleybank residents reported something different about this group. Sure, they looked human. They sounded human. And most importantly, they even tasted human.


===Neither improved classification nor reduced conflicts are important to me at all===
But something was off. Something was wrong. These new arrivals refused to throw up crudely-made barricades and turn their headquarters into a fire death-trap, a trait that has long defined humanity. They refused to use the notorious drug Revive. And when RRF officials looked into the eyes of these new arrivals, they did not see a human hoping to avenge the loss of their entire family and escape the dark chasm of miasma trapped in their soul by shotgunning a pile of zombies.


==Types of changes==
They saw something much darker.
There are three general types of changes proposed:
:*Expanded classification
:*Reduced classification
:*Changes in the classification language.
Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath the statement that best describes the changes you would like to see if a new classification system is made.  


===There should be more group types added to the list of classifications===
===Beliefs of the November 5th Cult===


===There should be fewer group types on the list of classifications===
===Initial preparations for Mass Suicide===


===Only the language of the classification system should be changed===
===Attempts by Ridleybank Resistance Front to prevent the tragedy ===


==Alternative Group Suburb Classifications==
===The Final Day===
Below is a randomly ordered list of proposed classification systems. Please number (<nowiki>#</nowiki>) and time-stamp your signature underneath the ones that you agree with. You '''may select more than one.'''


===To be added===
===Analysis===
 
 
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Latest revision as of 01:36, 9 November 2012

5th of November (2012): Zombie POV
Danger! Danger! Danger! Zombie POV
This is a Pro-Zombie version of the 5th of November, a survivor event that took place during November 2012. This article has been both heavily edited and propagandized for maximum survivor cattle-killing fun. If you believe that destroying small groups of feral zombie children with howitzers and tactical nuclear strikes is more your cup of tea, well, you probably won't enjoy this page.


5th of November, 2012
Rrfposter03.jpg
Date: November 4th, 2012 - November 6th, 2012
Place: Ridleybank, in and around the Blackmore Building, perhaps the most boring building in the game.
Result: Zombies were unable to prevent the mass suicide of Survivors.
Combatants
The November 5th Cult x Zombies
Groups
- The November 5th Cult : Axes High,

Blackmore Bastard Brigade, Channel 4 News Team, Creedy Defense Force, Dr. schwan’s Research and Development Team, The Fortress, Malton College of Medicine, Malton Civil Defense Unit, Malton Forensics Unit.

- Zombies : RRF, Stunned Onlookers
Commanders
- The November 5th Cult : ???
- Zombies : Irishmen (Papa of the RRF
Strength
- The November 5th Cult : Ideological State Apparatus
- Zombies : Lack of pants
Casualties
- The November 5th Cult : The entire cult
- Zombies : Belief in the human spirit to endure

The 5th of November was a group of survivors based around the Blackmore Building, a Necrotech Building in the zombie-held suburb of Ridleybank. On November 4th, concerned members of the Ridleybank Resistance Front entered Blackmore and discovered more than seventy frantic survivors inside. Despite the heroic efforts of Resistance members to calm the situation, the RRF was unable to prevent the tragic loss of the November 5th group, who believed that optimal UD siege strategy involved a carefully orchestrated, cult-based mass suicide.

Overview

Prologue

On November 3rd, 5th of November members began infiltrating Ridleybank in small groups, looking to establish a small foothold in the zombie-controlled suburb. Led by the DEM, the Army Control Corps, and the Knights Templar, the group built a stronghold at the Blackmore bulding, a little known derelict structure where nothing of consequence ever happens. Like ever. Most residents of Ridleybank were puzzled at first by these strange visitors. Were these new immigrants simply lost? Or were they baked out of their f*cking minds, hoping to score some sweet Funyuns in the middle of the zombie homeland?

Whatever the reason, the actions of the new arrivals were quickly noticed by the zombie officials in Ridleybank. Human intrusions have long been a welcome part of Ridleybank's storied history, ranging from survivors groups hoping to fulfill their ultimate dream of being ground up by an industrial grinder and dumped off a bridge, to those looking for the penultimate, final battle that would finally restore hope to Malton and give humans something to believe in again.

At first, RRF leaders began to believe that this November 5th would be different than before. That it would be special; something to cherish, and something to remember and pass down to future generations. But RRF officials soon became concerned when Ridleybank residents reported something different about this group. Sure, they looked human. They sounded human. And most importantly, they even tasted human.

But something was off. Something was wrong. These new arrivals refused to throw up crudely-made barricades and turn their headquarters into a fire death-trap, a trait that has long defined humanity. They refused to use the notorious drug Revive. And when RRF officials looked into the eyes of these new arrivals, they did not see a human hoping to avenge the loss of their entire family and escape the dark chasm of miasma trapped in their soul by shotgunning a pile of zombies.

They saw something much darker.

Beliefs of the November 5th Cult

Initial preparations for Mass Suicide

Attempts by Ridleybank Resistance Front to prevent the tragedy

The Final Day

Analysis


Mall-in zombie hands-small.jpg

The Blackmore Building
Probably not the election result you were expecting
--Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 01:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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