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==OMGOMGOMG==
== API help ==
I accidentally did something to the suggestion portal and don't know how to fix it :X [[User:CyberOpposition|-.-]] 03:57, 4 May 2013 (BST)
Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. {{unsigned|Reimannsum|19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC)}}
:Looks like you got it sorted out. Long story short, don't edit the line that says you should edit below that line. It looks like you were replacing (perhaps automatically via some sort of automatic text replacement?) the "--" with a "—" in that line. Since that line is an HTML comment, removing the -- caused it to behave as if the comment never ended, meaning that the rest of the page was treated as being in the HTML comment. I.e. It was hidden from view. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 10:32, 4 May 2013 (BST)
:Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
:If in doubt, revert or undo will usually fix all but the most egregious of fuck-ups. One of the best features of a wiki. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:10, 4 May 2013 (BST)
::Also, that's why you should always preview your changes first, rather than saving immediately. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:33, 4 May 2013 (BST)




== My suggestion ==
==Thanks==
i just wanted to know if i could re-add my Radio Recognition suggestion to the voting section? [[User:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="red">Payne</font>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="blue">Train</font>]]<sup>'''([[NWO]]/[[FU]])'''</sup> 17:27, 4 May 2013 (BST)
I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:My [[User_talk:Aichon#Re-adding_my_suggestion|previous answer]] to this question still applies. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:41, 4 May 2013 (BST)
:Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day.
::I don't remember asking this to you before...hmmm....thanks anyway for then and now[[User:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="red">Payne</font>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="blue">Train</font>]]<sup>'''([[NWO]]/[[FU]])'''</sup> 18:13, 4 May 2013 (BST)
:Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
:::No prob. :) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:21, 5 May 2013 (BST)




== Suggestions==
== Your template coding still manages to troll years later ==
I just wanna know if that one guy can add his suggestion again. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:37, 6 May 2013 (BST)
[[Soldiers of Confusedmen|This is comedy gold.]] --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Third time's the charm, amirite? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:40, 6 May 2013 (BST)
:Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Someone played the long *con* here... --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


Aichon you are beautiful. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
:Just having a little fun. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


== Question ==
Can I place a question I have about suggestions here? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:45, 6 May 2013 (BST)
:Only once. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:06, 6 May 2013 (BST)


== The years fly by...==
Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes.
:Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially.
:You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Oh, ''just'' that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


== Protecting cycled suggestions ==
Do you want to share any amount of copper money on Ross' RE, or should I take it to the new crat tomorrow? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:28, 10 May 2013 (BST)
:Best that you handle it, since I'm on the way out the door of Bureaucracy. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:37, 10 May 2013 (BST)


==    ==
penus {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
:About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo.
:Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
::i'm kids. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


== ... ==
aichon. i would like to discuss with you. please go to here. tinyurl.com/pggchat. i wait for you! --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 00:20, 13 May 2013 (BST)
:For posterity, the issue was a minor one with image caching that was pretty easily addressed. Also, tinyurl.com/pggchat is just a link to Mibbit for #PGG on the NexusWar IRC, for everyone else's reference. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:48, 13 May 2013 (BST)


 
==In-game zombie names==
==Something else==
Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! {{unsigned|Ragno|10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)}}
Edit my talk whenever you're about. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  16:56, 21 May 2013 (BST)
:Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it.
:I responded to your e-mail a second time with more information, since we keep missing each other. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:02, 22 May 2013 (BST)
:No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 
::No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on.
== Random selection ==
:: https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html  {{unsigned|Ragno|22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC)}}
Hi, you wouldn't happen to know how I could make a template select a random item from a list every day, would you? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 20:24, 22 May 2013 (BST)
:Random? No. A different one each day in a cycle? Quite possible. We do something like that with {{tl|SimpleFACycle}} for the Featured Articles on the main page of the wiki, though it changes them out weekly, rather than daily, and you have to set up the cycle in advance. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:01, 22 May 2013 (BST)
::Well, a preset cycle should be quite enough, and I think weekly should be sufficient for my purposes. Thanks, I'll look into it! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:06, 22 May 2013 (BST)
:::You can modify that weekly one to be daily by just swapping out the weekly magic word at the top for a daily one. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:07, 22 May 2013 (BST)
::::I know, but contrary to the first thing I set up on the wiki, I'm going to try and keep the scale of this project manageable... for now. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:10, 22 May 2013 (BST)
::::Sorry for bothering you again, but I've been out of wiki-editing for longer than I care to admit: how do I pull info like status, comment, etc. from the building statuses again? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:51, 22 May 2013 (BST)
:::::Basically, you make your own template to grab the parts you want. For instance, you should check the code for {{tl|TRP Status}} to see how it grabs each of the variables it uses from [[User:DangerReport/The_Latrobe_Building|a danger report]] in order to do something like this: {{User:DangerReport/The_Latrobe_Building|template=TRP Status}}
:::::Note that you're actually including the danger report itself, but that you pass it the template you want it to use as a variable. Rather convoluted, but I believe it's the only way to grab the information one piece at a time, so I'm glad it exists. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:33, 22 May 2013 (BST)
::::::Awesome, thanks! Question number 3: can I sepparate a user's name and date from his signature, when pulling that info from a sitrep? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 19:53, 23 May 2013 (BST)
:::::::Not that I'm aware of, since we lack any of the parser extensions on this wiki. I'm also unaware of any way to merely grab the date that the page was edited, in case you were thinking along those lines. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:07, 23 May 2013 (BST)
::::::::Hmmm, that makes my idea a bit less attractive than I had hoped. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 20:12, 23 May 2013 (BST)
:::::::::Actually, I'll take that back. Look over some of the [[Help:Magic_Words#Technical_metadata|relevant magic words]] and see if any of them might work for you. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:19, 23 May 2013 (BST)
::::::::::One of the revision-tags could do the trick. And I can just minimize the <nowiki>{{{user}}}</nowiki>, which should be ok. Thanks, you once again prove that you're a great help, be it with a giant map or a simple idea :) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 20:24, 23 May 2013 (BST)
:::::::::::I see where you're going with it, and sadly I have to inform you that the revision tags will always give you the revision date of the page (or template) it displayed on. I tried a similar project once, and ran into the same problem. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</sub>
::::::::::::What if I define the tag "date" in the sitrep template, like the name, comment and user are defined?
::::::::::::For whom it may concern: this is a first step towards a new template and page for all suburbs. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 21:33, 23 May 2013 (BST)
::::::::::::Yeah if I remeber correctly, I tried that on on danger report template and it still displayed the wrong date when transcluded. Plus, ya 10,000 Danger Report templates. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</sub>
:::::::::::::You might be able to do something like have <nowiki>sub{{sometemplate that has "st:{{REVISIONDATE}}" in it}}</nowiki> in order to effectively subst the REVISIONDATE in order to get the date of a particular template in the chain of templates. We've done similar stuff to allow automatic signatures with templates, as I recall. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:05, 23 May 2013 (BST)
::::::::::::@Vapor: Why don't the Danger Reports use one template for their content? Also, there are "only" about 5 000, since streets and other empty lots don't have one ;) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:25, 25 May 2013 (BST)
:::::::::::::Well the User:DangerReport pages technically are the templates. That's where the data for each location block is stored, and then various other templates are used to pull and display the data in different ways. Aichon's suggestion is a nifty little trick and it's possible that could work I think. The trick would be adding a variable to all of the location block pages with revision date magic words subst'd in using Aichon's trick. Then it's just a simple matter of creating one template that pulls that data. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)</sub>
::::::::::::::To be honest, I'm not convinced at all that my idea would work, since subst-ing works with some strange rules, as I recall. But it's the only idea I had to do this sort of thing. If it doesn't work, I'd have absolutely no idea at all, other than having people separately sign and date each of their edits to the danger reports. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:42, 25 May 2013 (BST)
:::::::::::::::Even if it was doable in a reasonable manner why would you want to ever transclude a single template big enough to hold all the suburbs on every page to only call a 100th or 10,000th of the template's content. That's just irresponsible really and would cause more issues than it could ever solve. Additionally I may be horribly misunderstanding what you guys are trying to do but if I can get an idea I could probably be useful in figuring out how to do it. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:46, 25 May 2013 (BST)

Latest revision as of 22:16, 6 December 2023

Aichon:Talk
Aichon
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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. Aichon 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

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  • I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
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Thanks. Aichon

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API help

Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reimannsum (talkcontribs) 19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC).

Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If Revenant is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. Aichon 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


Thanks

I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day.
Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. Aichon 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


Your template coding still manages to troll years later

This is comedy gold. -- Spiderzed 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. Aichon 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Someone played the long *con* here... -- Spiderzed 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Aichon you are beautiful. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Just having a little fun. ;) Aichon 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


The years fly by...

Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes.
Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially.
You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? Aichon 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Oh, just that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. Aichon 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. Aichon 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


penus When I fall, I'll weep for happiness 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo.
Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. Aichon 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
i'm kids. When I fall, I'll weep for happiness 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


In-game zombie names

Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talkcontribs) 10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC).

Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it.
No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. Aichon 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on.
https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talkcontribs) 22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC).