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help

I seem to have broken talk:suggestions formatting. I have no idea how and am scared to try fix it in case i make things worse! If you are first on line could you take a look? Thanks...--Honestmistake 14:44, 25 September 2008 (BST)

I've fixed it for now, by moving a huge chunk of the page to the overflow page. That page requires regular cleaning out of old, dead, suggestions discussion to avoid the problem -- boxy ^{talk • i} 15:02 25 September 2008 (BST)

Error?

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=5th_of_November%2F2008&diff=1270525&oldid=1270524

The page wont show up, and the talk pages hub shows The 5th of November "Original's" talk page. Care to... help? Thanks. --/\Haliman/\^{T | P! | W!} 21:09, 10 September 2008 (BST)

Looks like it only affects a couple of edits you made around the same time. Perhaps you just picked the wrong time, while an upgrade was happening (perhaps the recent deletion of the older diff comparisons)? If it doesn't happen again, and your page is fixed now, I wouldn't worry about it -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:46 11 September 2008 (BST)

Misunderstood!

Hey Boxy, I appologize about getting all pissy at you. I thought you may have deleted my stuff but you only moved it to our group page and made it better for us. Please accept my appology. I jumped to conclusions way too quickly.

Thanks for the help.

Also,

Im confused about how to get the Group link to work on our page. Is there an easier way to do it? Im still learning and Im trying to teach my brother and my cousin .-. SpacemanSpiffReturns 06:53, August 19, 2008

No problem, I'll give you some more tips on your talk page -- boxy ^{talk • i} 09:43 19 August 2008 (BST)

Stuff I'm Thinking About

I'm seriously contemplating moving barricade plans to group subpages, as it's where they should have been in the first place and will stop all this pointless bickering.--Karek^maps?! 05:52, 24 July 2008 (BST)

Trouble with that solution is that it's usualy a collaborative effort between survivor groups/individuals, rather than each group in an area "owning" their own plan -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:02 24 July 2008 (BST)

UBP subpages for the ones that are UBP group "neutral".--Karek^maps?! 10:20, 24 July 2008 (BST)

I know we could fit them somewhere, I just don't feel that it is a good thing. They are usually a community resource, and even though they are survivor POV, they should remain as a community page if possible. I don't remember much drama coming from them before the Dunell Hills situation. The occasional dispute about whether a building should be an entry point, or EHB... but meh, that's what arbies is for -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:28 24 July 2008 (BST)

This whole thing has gone so far out of proportion. I think the Santlerville model is the best. Survivor orientated cade plan on the page with the larger plan linked to and a zombie plan linked to from the bottom of the page, everyone's happy.--x o x o 10:31, 24 July 2008 (BST)

Funny J3d, as a zombie minded player I've always found those plans to be more of an insult than most things on the wiki. --Karek^maps?!

you talking about the actual cade plans or the zombie 'plans'? I find the zombie ones pretty shitty but if people want them there i figure they should be allowed to, despite the fact that serve no actual purpose...--x o x o 10:37, 24 July 2008 (BST)

The zombie ones. It's just an excuse to avoid addressing the actual issue.--Karek^maps?! 10:39, 24 July 2008 (BST)

I could see this becoming Wan's a/a case v2.0...the wiki is here to provide information to players, barricade plans (majority enforced ones) do that...while i can understand some people not liking them on the suburb page that should at the very least have a full sized heading explaining the purpose of the cade plan, the major local groups who endorse it and to what scale it is followed with a sizeable link to the actual cade plan because as much as you might not like them they are an important resource for survivor players.--x o x o 10:42, 24 July 2008 (BST)

That's one of the great ironies about this, they aren't, the other one, of course, is that the same people that use them now will still use them if they're moved off of the suburb pages.--Karek^maps?! 11:07, 24 July 2008 (BST)

As a self confessed zombie player you aren't really the right person to judge whether or not cade plans are an important survivor resource. While i agree they are largely bullshit i use them when i'm out of town and need to find an ep, you'd be suprised how often the ep the cade plan points to is the one that is in use, regardless of whether or not i feel it is the most logical choice for an entry point to a resource building. Anyway as to your second point - i agree, so move them to a subpage of the suburb but keep them well linked so people can find them! If a suburb is having a tantrum then you can look into splitting them into 'group cade plans' or whatever but 99% suburbs don't need that.--x o x o 13:01, 24 July 2008 (BST)

I'm a zombie player, not an idiot. That being said I have frequently participated in the survivor game for quite some time now, it's both how I started playing and how I ended playing, I classify myself as a zombie player not because I'm biased to their side but because I refuse to associate myself with the "survivor" mindset and I prefer the "zombie" metagame. And to refrain from using a segway I've already used; I've had this discussion before and wasn't the only one who came to the conclusion, 99% of them aren't followed and never have been(I only know of one suburb that I could ever say consistently did).--Karek^maps?!

It's not "an occasional dispute" this has been going on for over 2 years now and it's because of the absurdly POV nature of them that contributes to the general POV nature of the suburb pages. They're group resources_{(I doubt you'd dispute that)} it's idiotic for us to leave them on community pages, especially when they never should have been there in the first place. It's a major nuisance and one we should have solved long ago.--Karek^maps?! 10:33, 24 July 2008 (BST)

I've no problem with them coming off the suburb pages. I'll help with that. But I don't think group sub-pages is the place for them. Suburbname Barricade Plan (as seen on Category:Barricade plans) would be the place I'd put them -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:37 24 July 2008 (BST)

My retardation.

If I want an image in a frame and resized, any idea how i'd code it?

On an unrelated note.In relation to this The Great Suburb Group Massacre do you think 2 weeks is not enough time? --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 15:25, 12 July 2008 (BST)

No Boxy, that's not resizing, try--Karek^maps?! 17:13, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Sunflowers

Like this? :P -- boxy ^{talk • i} 17:22 12 July 2008 (BST)

creeps

Cheers chaps, --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 17:31, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the comments boxy. In answer to your questions.

Yes. It will be time consuming, about 6 weeks worth in fact. But i reckon I can probably remove 30% of all groups. After which it will be less stressful, they've just never been properly done before.
In future I will make it burb specific, but for now its just the truly inactive groups im purging. Besides who wants to get dragged into a "Were active in this suburb" debate? A hilly suburb on our western border alone would probably implode if i asked that question. I will make the cahnge but not yet.
As for the timestamp idea, its possible, Maybe a {{Welcomegroup}} template explaining how things work? But thats for the future, ive only just finished the location pages for vinetown, and i fear my brain will give up...--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 11:17, 13 July 2008 (BST)

Sigh

Why must you ruin everything!?!?!--x o x o 04:06, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Calling everyone "fucking retards" is not cool on community pages, and the people with the French template on their pages don't have anything to do with the place (it works just as well without the link anyway)... and I like fried chicken :P -- boxy ^{talk • i} 11:18 12 July 2008 (BST)

The fucking retards thing was funny, and we need an ELiM link on the page somewhere. French thing is meh, and wikipedia clearly states that african american's like fried chicken...--x o x o 15:14, 12 July 2008 (BST)

I'll give you fried chicken :P -- boxy ^{talk • i} 17:03 12 July 2008 (BST)

Link plox.--Karek^maps?! 17:36, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Wiki

Hey Boxy, I noticed that at about 1 AM GMT-6, all the wiki's text got much larger. I've check on other sites and deleted all my cookies, etc., so I know it's not my browser. Any info? - Vigeous _RHA 08:36, 11 July 2008 (BST)

Has it cleared itself up? Often closing the browser/puter and restarting fixes these little glitches. Only thing that I can think of is that you may have upped the font size on the page. I use firefox, and occasionally bump the mouse scroll wheel while holding in ctrl. This can change the font size up or down on individual sites while not affecting other web pages in different tabs -- boxy ^{talk • i} 11:22 12 July 2008 (BST)

Ah, much thanks Boxy! - Vigeous _RHA 20:11, 12 July 2008 (BST)

RE: Standzs

Hi. I change that because Standzs is one of my 2 characters and I´m not playing more with it. --suver 15:18, 30 June 2008 (BST)

My bad

Sorry, in the swapping over of discussion from main page to talk page, I missed your comment you placed after my rant. I have replied to it now, and I honestly look forward to hearing more.--CyberRead240 14:55, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Why

Template groups?--x o x o 07:21, 17 June 2008 (BST)

So that we can track when groups are added to the list, and perhaps, in the future, set up a system where groups can be removed regularly if not updated... a fringe benefit may be that edit conflicts on the group lists doesn't mean that the whole page needs locking -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:54 17 June 2008 (BST)

Makes sense, me likey.--x o x o 14:01, 17 June 2008 (BST)

A/A

Use my talk page if you wanna talk to me.--x o x o 13:06, 10 June 2008 (BST)

Images

After 17 days of slaving away Rosslessness and I have brought the amount of uncategorized images down to 1390. There are a few images in there that are [deleted] but won't go away (same with the uncategorized pages). I plan on going through the main categories and cross referencing any images that can go in more than one, but we figured getting all of them in at least one was the main goal. Soon you will be able to remove the link from your sig! Just keeping you updated in case you missed it. --– Nubis ^NWO 20:33, 4 June 2008 (BST)

That's a lot of work, great stuff. :D -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 21:38, 4 June 2008 (BST)

I'm going to make a medal for those two first chance I get...-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 21:43, 4 June 2008 (BST)

I hope its shaped like a cookie..... 1343 by the way. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 22:12, 4 June 2008 (BST)

I hope it is all text! No more images! :P--– Nubis ^NWO 01:42, 5 June 2008 (BST)

Yep, nice work, and yeah, I of course noticed your recent changes spamming ;) I would have rather that all the categories were put in first time... but it's such a big job (probably what ground me to a halt on the project) that I'm not complaining -- boxy ^{talk • i} 03:20 5 June 2008 (BST)

There are also some images that change category with usage. I think going back through them will also help cut down on the dups that are just different sizes because the user may not know how to alter the size in the code or forget what they named it when they uploaded it. And I agree - those survivors love their ribbons! --– Nubis ^NWO 16:47, 5 June 2008 (BST)

Ribbons, they've all got to have their own set. Just doesn't fit for me, the flavour of organised military groups just isn't right... but then again, organised zombie hordes are even more out of flavour, so meh -- boxy ^{talk • i} 16:55 5 June 2008 (BST)

A category for awards/medals would be best i feel. Thats the only major "gap" in the current system. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 22:42, 5 June 2008 (BST)

It's starting to get there. But the original RRF style flavor was good for the game and fit a kinda different concept of what a zombie was.--Karek^maps?! 04:36, 6 June 2008 (BST)

[DONE - DONE - DONE!] So help me if you sysops let that image list get that long again I will (insert generic threat here and add extra venom!) Now for Part 2. :/ --– Nubis ^NWO 14:39, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Do you have super secret powerful delete powers? We have a list of about 3 images and 4 or so pages that just won't go away. We thought maybe the Crat position had something we didn't. If not, would Kevan have the ability? I have a list on my talk page titled Special Delete. Thanks.--– Nubis ^NWO 22:08, 13 June 2008 (BST)

Nope, no idea how to get rid of those pages, they're buggy. Krazy Monkey worked out how to get rid of a few annoying pages like those, but it doesn't work with them, afaik -- boxy ^{talk • i} 04:57 14 June 2008 (BST)

Arby's

We need you to accept J3D or not accept him. We're waiting on you to start this case up. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 23:33, 2 June 2008 (BST)

Help meh Boxy!!

Why isn't this redirect working? I want it to redirect to PHPD like you suggested, but it won't. Did I break the wiki?--Nallan (Talk) 11:51, 28 May 2008 (BST)

Don't worry boxington, i helped the noob and thus saved the day. No sweat. Although perhaps a sandpit in repayment?--x o x o 12:04, 28 May 2008 (BST)

wtf you did nothing! NOTHING! Boxeh I still need you! Jed was the last one to touch the page so it's not my fault if the wiki is fucked.--Nallan (Talk) 12:09, 28 May 2008 (BST)

The redirect works fine. If it isnt working for you, clear your cache. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 12:15, 28 May 2008 (BST)

Works for me too... should have worked with your earlier versions as well... probably what Grim said -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:27 28 May 2008 (BST)

And you wouldn't have to worried about removing your own deletion request, no one is going to VB you for that, but moving it down to the resent actions section would be a better idea than simply wiping it -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:36 28 May 2008 (BST)

yeah nick you r-tard.--x o x o 12:38, 28 May 2008 (BST)

Ah got it. Works now. Is there anything teh cache can't do? I submit that there is not.--Nallan (Talk) 12:48, 28 May 2008 (BST)

Well it's not LOL, that's for sure.--x o x o 05:25, 29 May 2008 (BST)

Minor edit

Can you discuss w/ the other sysops about changing the error on the bureaucrat policy? Specifically, it says: "This policy does not effect any account that Kevan may use as a wiki admin account;" effect should be changed to affect. --Larspcus2 00:19, 20 May 2008 (BST)

I don't think we need to bother anyone else for something so minor. Thanks, that should have it -- boxy ^{talk • i} 02:55 20 May 2008 (BST)

:O

Someone used to have a templated sig! What turned you against 'em?--x o x o 10:00, 19 May 2008 (BST)

Did you stuff the second link up? Couldn't find a sig of mine there, but yeah, I used one a few times, just don't like them. 1) I figure the sig you use on a page should stay there instead of being changed later, 2) They contribute to stuffing pages up (like the suggestions talk page occasionally) 3) meh -- boxy ^{talk • i} 03:00 20 May 2008 (BST)

Ah yeah, i did. I had 2 user talks open both called Penny _____, there was that one and another. Anyway it did have a sig of yours on it. Templated sigs do make edit pages a lot cleaner though...also have you seen the awesome new ALiM navbar?? It totally rox!--x o x o 07:54, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Jamie's Headerpage templates

Thank you Boxy for moving them to the right place, I did not know what name to put the under. By the way; what did you think of them, not very good are they.--Jamie Cantwel3 ^TalkAll glory to the Hypnotoad! 04:25, 18 May 2008 (BST)

I've seen worse ;) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 04:34 18 May 2008 (BST)

Sorry I stuffed up this one on you. But you could have fixed it by simply putting a backslash (/) in the last noinclude tag. The noinclude tags (<noinclude>xxxx</noinclude>) mean that whatever you put between the tags shows up on the page, but when the template is used on another page (like your user page) that text doesn't get included (hence noinclude) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 04:41 18 May 2008 (BST)

Ok I will remember that next time thanks.--Jamie Cantwel3 ^TalkAll glory to the Hypnotoad! 23:13, 18 May 2008 (BST)

ELiM

I thought you'd like to know! :) :) :)--Nallan (Talk) 03:49, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Hahaha, I see you've sanitised the ALiM talk page... can't have none of that nasty dissent now can we >:) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:00 7 May 2008 (BST)

twas me, and feel free to come back and dissent more, just don't expect the conversation to linger when you've cleared off. ;) --x o x o 09:25, 9 May 2008 (BST)

Whatever you say, finis -- boxy ^{talk • i} 16:54 9 May 2008 (BST)

hahahahahahahahahhahahahaha FUCK YOU! --x o x o 01:03, 10 May 2008 (BST)

Click here if you ever want to relive the good 'ol days ;) --Nallan (Talk) 09:29, 26 May 2008 (BST)

err...

any chance you can help this guy out? Thanks.--x o x o 06:55, 3 April 2008 (BST)

hey boxy

hey boxy i know you are way busy modign the wiki and you dont have time for looking for stuff but sence u have seen just about every wiki page evermade here i was wondering if you have seen a wiki page with the little picture saying "this user has visited ackland mall and the templates like that i was going to add some to my page well if you can drop a comment on my talk page thanks tomer mall tour 07/X:00

Thanks...sorta.

Thanks for fixing my grammar/spelling errors on the Cockburn page. However i don't think its really your place to remove the link to 73, if he wanted to he could have. I thought you would be happy that real history was being incorporated into the location's history, apparently not.--x o x o 07:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Quick Question

Just a couple questions regarding Wiki ethics; Would it be considered improper to edit the spelling on someones user page even if the user is not an obvious newb? And what about changing the wording to produce correct grammar or to provide clarity? -AbSent 16:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't, unless I was pretty sure they wouldn't mind. Ask them on their talk page first is the best bet -- boxy ^{talk • i} 21:53 29 February 2008 (BST)

Question

Is it okay to delete irrelevant discussion on discussion pages? Example: there's stuff on the Building Types discussion page that's just no longer relevant. Okay to delete it, you think? --Funt Solo ^QT 18:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, if it's really irrelevant, I guess. I'd make a section at the bottom of the page, and label it for deletion, and give it a week or two there. After that, if no-one has seen fit to save it to an archive, delete it -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:13 16 February 2008 (BST)

Hey.

That is not my character. Please ask before creating pages that are not necessary. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nny7229 (talk • contribs) 21:07, February 5, 2008.

Well it was a character page in the wrong namespace, you created it, so it got moved to your page. Sorry if it wasn't yours, but we get a heap of pages in the wrong place like that, and waiting for a reply from every one of their authors would mean that many of them would never get put right -- boxy ^{talk • i} 22:00 5 February 2008 (BST)

Thank you

Thank you Boxy, for the help with my chef page.--Jamie Cantwell3 06:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Interference Links

Please stop adding them, read the page's talk page, a page with that purpose already exists and is where all current data on the matter is and has been going since the day of the update. It's also in the footnote at the bottom of the page. The Interference page is pretty much nothing but unneeded content spam.--Karek^maps?! 07:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I think a page is needed on this development -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:46 29 January 2008 (BST)

That isn't it. If you want a page that is about the flavor and what is meant by interference fix that one up, but don't use it as a link to how interference effects building barricades as that is misleading. As such it doesn't belong on the barricades page until it has content itself, or at the very least relevance to the barricades page, such as is the case with the stub door.--Karek^maps?! 07:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Well people arn't going to be able to provide the information in one place unless there's a link to it so they can find it, and know that their information is needed. (I can't update it, because I'm not playing a survivor in a siege, but I'd love to know what the effect is (both flavour and percentages wise). Would you be happy to have the link in the footnote area? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:58 29 January 2008 (BST)

A link in the footnote area is more than fine. You should be able to fit it in nicely as part of Note 3.--Karek^maps?! 08:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking up this cause Boxy. I was in exactly that situation (wanting to help coalesce knowledge on the subject without having any term or handle for the idea). That's the intent of the Interference page, and I'm astounded Karek doesn't see that. CloseCall 01:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't see it because of how you were choosing to link to it, it was misleading.--Karek^maps?! 05:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Club Head

So you want me to get rid of the Fenis thing? Is that the only problem you have with the edit? Because i find mods to be temperamental beings and don't want to resubmit only to be banned for not clearing up the unspoken issue.--Jed 12:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC) My bad...--Jed 12:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

The rest of your "contribution" to the page is pathetically unfunny, but I really couldn't give a shite. If others make a case against it's inclusion I may though. Why don't you go do something productive with your time -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:10 17 January 2008 (BST)

Hey, hey, hey...each to his own. Until then I'll stick with what i wrote minus Fenis.--Jed 12:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh and you're more then welcome to make suggestions re:doing something productive with my time.--Jed 12:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Go kill Finis -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:29 17 January 2008 (BST)

Random question

Xela798, new user. Anyway, he's updated the status of Southall Mansion without signing, and generally editted the page to be his own special home.(Regardless of its internal revive point status.) But its not vandalism is it. Because its a public page? Isnt it?--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 22:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Karek has cleaned it up, and I fixed up his sig on the status report. Him saying that zombies arn't allowed, and barricades should be up isn't much different to what was there before, stating that they should be down, and zombies are welcome. It's all one groups view on how things should be run (ie POV material) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 23:42 10 January 2008 (BST)

Thank you sir!--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 16:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Questions

So, with the suggestions. It says: Individual suggestion pages that were spamminated or removed from voting. Does that mean any page that has closed? Or just withdrawn and spamminated? Matts wording was: for spamminated or otherwise closed from voting suggestions. So I suppose that qualifies for a schedueled protection, right? (And do I need to put the Template:Protect?) Lastly, for some reason, I'm getting the unprotect button instead of the protect button on almost every UDWiki namespace pages, like A/PM.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 16:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Anything removed, at least that's according to this slightly older scheduled protections request which, while it's from the old system, should be able to justify protecting closed suggestions votes.--Karek^maps?! 20:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, looks like they're all covered. You should be free to protect any suggestion that has been removed from voting... and those in peer reviewed, rejected, ect. have been removed from voting. Those admin pages being protected is a hangover from the old days, when everybody had the ability to move pages around. If you click on unprotect, you'll probably see that they are protected from moving, even though it makes no difference now that the default is that only sysops can move pages -- boxy ^{talk • i} 22:50 6 January 2008 (BST)

Oh, mmkay. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Just noticed that there's a "block unregistered users" except you can only edit if you're logged in. A shame really. There is semi protection on Wikipedia, stops the recently registered. Anywho, default = sysops only?-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I just read your comment on AHLG's promotions bid, I actually do have every suggestion that I have voted on on my watchlist, so unless it was spam removed extremely fast or dupe removed extremely fast it's on there.--Karek^maps?! 23:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Header

Nah, that's ok I understand. Same thing happens to me, I suppose it is better the other way. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 12:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it is kinda wierd I suppose. I mean, his sig is right there with a link to his page anyways. The blue helps though. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 12:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Arbies

Heh. Cant tell if you are serious or not, but ill run with it :P. Actually, i suspect you have figured out what im up to. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 14:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Na, not serious, just funny, the way no-one is acceptable -- boxy ^{talk • i} 14:10 5 January 2008 (BST)

Oh I doubt that he refused everyone, but he does have to be a bit careful cause his last ruling was a soft Wikigate(I was looking at a specific ruling in that from Kevan's talk page and it's almost the exact ruling used with some small differences).--Karek^maps?! 20:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Tables

With this table I want to have grey verticle lines/borders separating the three columns. Is there a way to do this? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 01:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Tables arn't really my thing... I do 'em, but it's a battle -- boxy ^{talk • i} 01:05 3 January 2008 (BST)

It's actually significantly harder because of how you chose to do the tables. Try HTML or ordering them by columns, not rows. Then I'd bet <div style="border-right:2px solid #000;"> would probably work if it surrounded the column. But the style code ''"border-right:2px solid #000;"'' Should do the trick giving you a 2 pixel solid black border on the right border of the column, If you do use HTML just add style="border-right:2px solid #000;" to the <TD> tag._{(you can see an example of how to do it on my ProjDev page, the map with the green background uses a similar code on a smaller scale.)}--Karek^maps?! 01:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Linksy that messes up Broswers

You might want to scan your comp. I found about ten Spyware from that link.--User:Axe27/Sig 23:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Son of a bitch >:( -- boxy ^{talk • i} 23:45 2 January 2008 (BST)

Huh? Where? Can I click? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing he's talking about.... I don't suggest clicking it though. You will have to ctrl+alt+dlt to stop it.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Har! I have mac! I'm immune! *Skips and jumps before clicking the link*. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Really, people don't need to know where to find that, do they, SA? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 00:46 3 January 2008 (BST)

Only Gnomie did. And if I was right in assuming that was the one 27 was talking about, then 27 said it came with spyware. Todl you not to click it. :D. Although I did it anyway.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, it's one of those links. Force quit does the trick. Comes with spyware? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

He's lucky none of it got through here, or I'd have to take my fireaxe to 123 A, in game >:) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 01:12 3 January 2008 (BST)

Page

What do you think of my new user and talk page designs? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Suburb Template and NecroWatch

Hello again Boxy. Sorry for turning your Talk page into a free-for-all discussion (below), as that was not my intent. As such, I have started this new topic just to clarify your recent suggestion. To confirm, you are suggesting that I edit the Template:Suburb to include a link to NecroWatch (to the relevant suburb section) among the other links (i.e. iWitness, ect)? --Mobius187 19:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you've set up your necrowatch system, but a link similar to those at the bottom of the suburb template, linking to where people can go to update the suburbs necrowatch page/s would be appropriate I would think. Does each suburb have a "NecroWatch/Dulston" (or similar) page? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 00:35 31 December 2007 (BST)

NecroWatch follows a standard similar to the one already used by building status (NIC). The NecroWatch site acts as a central repository for all of the NT NecroWatch templates, while each individual NT location wikipage supports its own individual template (display only). The template information is stored as sub-pages of NTStatus, one for every NT wikipage location. It's this sub-page that the user updates and the changes are then displayed on the previously mentioned wikipages. The only potential I would see for including NecroWatch on a suburb wikipage would be as a link to the NecroWatch section pertaining to the NT facilities/scans for that suburb (something like this: Dulston). Obviously if a suburb had no such facilities no link would be required. What do you think? --Mobius187 02:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Well that system wont work on the suburb template, I'm afraid, unless you make a redirect page for each suburb to point to your Dulston|link and then point to that. And then you may as well just create a necrowatch page for each suburb, I guess -- boxy ^{talk • i} 08:41 31 December 2007 (BST)

On the problem of how to direct the links, based on the fact that we would be using a single template (i.e. Template:Suburb), I have a solution that would work. How about we simply incorporate a variable into the Suburb template to support directing the sub-page (i.e. A_to_D) that I can then set for each suburb individually and as for the anchored link (i.e. #Dulston) we could use the {{PAGENAME}} utility template? Or more specifically, the Suburb template would include wikicode like this: [[NecroWatch/{{{SubPage|A_to_D}}}#{{PAGENAME}}|NecroWatch]]. Then all I would need to do is set the SubPage value for every suburb wikipage. --Mobius187 15:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

That would probably work... I'll leave it up to you, it's your project after all -- boxy ^{talk • i} 23:49 1 January 2008 (BST)

Animated GIFs and Sysop-dom

First, the major topic. It would appear that Grim is cleaning house in the Sysop list, which is a noble effort as I like to do something similar with my efforts on managing group member lists. No point including someone who isn't around, or contributing. I gave it some thought and if he is set on this course of action I think it would be in our mutual best interests for me to step down as a Sysop. That allows him to better manage the Sysop list (i.e. only listing those who really are there to perform those duties) and I get back to what I do best, non-Sysop work on the UD Wiki. My only real complaint was the implication that I was just being lazy, when in fact I never agreed to do anything more than I currently was doing. So, yeah. It was fun, sort of, but I'll step down to resolve this issue. So I suppose my question is, what do I need to do in order to do that? --Mobius187 00:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Grim isn't cleaning house of inactive sysops, he's argued against all formal policy so far aimed at that. He's just seems to want you out. If you don't want the hassle, then ask for demotion, or if you want to see if the community still supports you keeping your sysop status (they are the ones you're serving, not Grim, not me), put yourself up for reevaluation (if you can handle frank criticism). I don't know if I'd support your reevaluation, but as far as I'm concerned you're doing no harm with your sysops powers, even if they arn't fully utilised. At least what you do clean up of your own doesn't need to be handled by the rest of us -- boxy ^{talk • i} 06:28 30 December 2007 (BST)

Hmmm. Well even if Grim's motives are speculative, the fact remains that I don't often use any of my Sysop-granted powers and I certainly don't perform Sysop duties. So on the one hand I don't want to step down if the only reason is because Grim has got a bug in bonnet over something I did (again, he specifically didn't ask me to step down, rather he requested I just do the Sysop work), while on the other hand he does make a valid point, I don't plan on performing Sysop duties beyond those that I have already performed. I suppose I could wait and see whether Grim is still serious about his request. If he pursues an answer from me then I'll know I need to provide him with one. I think what I find the most interesting is that I was originally voted in even after I stated that I would only be acting as a Sysop in a limited capacity, and maybe even leaving the UD Wiki (back then). So in that regard everyone who voted in favor of me knew what to expect, as my goals are strictly aimed towards improving the UD Wiki through clean-up and wiki projects rather than administrative duties. --Mobius187 17:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Im not sure if i should laugh at the absurdity of your ideas or cry that you are dumb enough (And more importantly, paranoid enough) to leap to that ludicrous conclusion. As i have said, i would much rather you took up the torch of responsibility, but if you dont want to do the job then you shouldnt have the power. Its plain simple. Saying that you got voted in means nothing. Its patently obvious from the promotions candudacies of late that people will vouch for anyone who posts even a moderate amount and doesnt tick them off. Things such as suitability nearly never come into play. Besides, its not a vote, and having read your promotions bid and seen everything there, i can pretty much say your promotion was a mistake, in light of your comments that you probably wouldnt be around. To be honest, i think your persecution complex of late has been brought on by the fact i submitted you to A/VB for spamming. That has nothing to do with you being a sysop, and everything to do with you spamming. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 18:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I should begin by asking, which idea you are referring to as absurd? I can also assure you that I am in full control of my mental faculties and am not in any way paranoid as you have implied. I think if you will carefully review what I wrote you will see that I simply stated the facts as I know them and speculated two possible outcomes based on that information. I admit what little information I have of your personality is biased by those I have spoken to, of which some hold unfavorable opinions of your methods. Perhaps that was wrong of me as I usually try to be agreeable with everyone I work with. If anything I am all about self-improvement, so I will cast aside those potential misconceptions about you and start with a clean slate. I should also point out that I was completely unaware of the recent "spam" allegations made against me, and I can only assume that you believed my comments were in some way rooted to that complaint (which they were not). Thus, we can conclude that I do not a persecution complex because in no way do I feel persecuted. Maybe a little pressured, but just a little. Certainly nothing really worthy complaining about. --Mobius187 19:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Next topic, and one slightly less important, how much leeway do you grant to animated GIFs in terms of the recommended maximum image file size (i.e. 150KB)? In my opinion the file size limit is in place to prevent huge image files or such that take forever to load and thus slow-down the load rate for the Wiki. Right? In the case animated GIF files the GIF can load similar to streamed video, with the key factor being how long it takes to load a single frame. In this case I have an animated file with 50 frames, each 10-13KB each (125x100px, meant for a template). In total that's a file size of 550+KB, but the animated GIF will start up based on the load times of the individual images, or a few each second or so until it gets up to full speed having loaded all of them, but at no time are users left staring at nothing. I have tried to lessen the number of images, but as the animated GIF is not a sequence, but rather a series of random images associated with my topic, reducing their number lessens the original purpose. I can show you by uploading the 50-frame animated GIF to the Wiki, and you could delete it should you find it unacceptable, but I wanted to check with you first before doing anything along those lines. --Mobius187 00:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't make wiki policy, and I don't know of any in regards to image size (other than the suggestion on the upload page). Wiki Questions would probably be the best place to ask. I will say, that having a relatively slow connection, images like Image:Demlogo.gif are a pain in the arse to load. Even if the first frame comes up quickly, images further down the page often don't come up until it's totally loaded. I wouldn't like to see images of that size used on many pages -- boxy ^{talk • i} 06:28 30 December 2007 (BST)

I'll redirect my question there. I agree though, Image:Demlogo.gif did take longer than I would have wished to load. I downloaded the file and confirmed it's 30 frames, of which a majority are 450x199px in size. I'm hoping though that while my animated GIF would have more frames, their scale (125x100px) will improve the download rate. Still, I'll see what everyone else thinks first. --Mobius187 17:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

It seems like It would be kinda hard to judge without seeing a completed version of the Gif.--Karek^maps?! 17:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I actually have a completed version of the animated GIF, but I'm curious as to how I should display it online so that it could be judged. As I mentioned before I'm reluctant to upload it to the UD Wiki because it exceeds the posted file size limit (150 vs 550+ KB). --Mobius187 19:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

You can either upload it here (and put it up for deletion later if found to be inappropriate) or use imageshack.us to host it (you don't need to register) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 00:37 31 December 2007 (BST)

PKPC Template

Don't worry about it. I removed the link. Thank you! --Secruss 20:24, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

External Military#Supply Crates

Now after you added there is 2 links to the big article - check the first line of section, the one that says Main article: Supply Crates --~~~~ [talk ] 06:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

D'oh -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:23 26 December 2007 (BST)

Watch

What you delete. Let me know if a page can't be used like that however (I like the code being hidden away like that). --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 10:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Opps... wondered what the hell was going on there... should'a asked, eh. You should totally take have me up on A/VB :) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:02 21 December 2007 (BST)

I'm already there! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 20:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no idea..... just leave it for the moment, I'll fix it later.... somehow.... Thing is, it's not a double-redirect. And I have never redirected to SSZ. Weird shit happening, that's for sure. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Nowiki template

Trying to make a template at Template:Nowiki, to make it easier to nowiki stuff. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 20:44, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It won't work, Nowiki, Includeonly, and Noinclude have an insane number of problems working together, it's pretty much impossible to build a Nowiki template, not to mention it will nowiki the variable so the included will be {{{1}}}, the variable can't be assigned.--Karek^maps?! 23:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Categorisation

Heh. Lesson learned. I find the three most common are Category:Group Images, Category:Page Elements, and Category:Character Images, so I generally copy/paste those, and remove the ones innaplicable. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 23:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You split them up into the sub categories of those larger categories. Zombie characters, survivor character for example, instead of just character images. This category tree may give you an idea of the layout. I know it's easier to just lump them all together in broad categories, but it's not very helpful for finding the images you want later (which is the reason for categorisation -- boxy ^{talk • i} 23:58 19 December 2007 (BST)

Image:Spooky_ShartakAd.jpg. I have no idea where this would fall under. It's not of Urban Dead, not in a template and not a page element (or is it)? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I've been sticking any tricky ones in the unsorted images category. Probably end up in page elements that one, I guess. Anyway, send them to unsorted, and we'll probably end up creating other categories if there are enough of a group to lump together -- boxy ^{talk • i} 00:04 20 December 2007 (BST)

Cheers

Thanks for archiving me proper.--Rosslessness 09:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Ive just done an archive for the hospital in vinetown. Any closer to getting it right?--Rosslessness 10:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, Vinetown should have been in brackets... but close enough -- boxy ^{talk • i} 08:50 22 December 2007 (BST)

Formatting question

Hello Boxy, I was referred to you by Nalikill, on the #udwiki IRC. I'm trying to figure out how to make an image link to another page, not just the image. <a href='whatever.html'><img src='whatver.jpg'></a> would work for HTML, but I can't find an equivalent here. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thnx. Jokimoto^{M.E.R.C.Y. EDU T} 05:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The only way I've seen it done is to first edit the page where you're going to upload the image (eg Image:Whatever.jpg), and make it a redirect to the page you want to link to, and then upload the image to that location. Then whenever anyone clicks on that image on any page it redirects to the page you nominated -- boxy ^{talk • i} 05:57 14 December 2007 (BST)

Thanks a lot for such a quick reply. Will do. Jokimoto^{M.E.R.C.Y. EDU T} 16:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

{{Click|image=IMAGENAME|link=LINKPAGE|width=IMGWidth in px|height=IMGHeight in px}}

Works for internal links only.--Karek^maps?! 23:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Question

Is there any way to tell how many times a template is used, and/or where? I know you can tell by clicking on the picture(s) and see where it links, but if there isn't one.... just curious. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 05:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah sure, go to the template page, and hit "what links here". The inclusions are listed seperately to those that just link to the page -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:02 12 December 2007 (BST)

Of course it's that easy... hurrr. Thankee. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 19:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Spam?

Please tell me that this is spam and can be reverted? Because it seems bloody ridiculous, but I don't want to do something without being sure and get dragged to A/VB as a consequence. - Whitehouse 17:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep, rubbish. But I see Karek has already tidied it up -- boxy ^{talk • i} 22:55 10 December 2007 (BST)

Image Categorization Project

For stuff like Image:01mc.jpg, do we really have to put them up for deletion? If so, should be have an unused image category as well? Thanks -Ryiis 10:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's not mandatory, but they are in danger of being deleted as soon as a sysops, with the will to go through the unused images, finds them. In fact if I like images I find, I put them in my image archive, to save them -- boxy • talk • 10:28 2 December 2007 (BST)

Oh, and poo for those AoD images I just did... should I put something like: Category: Drama Club Images ? --Ryiis 10:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, unfortunately. I already created that category for a heap of others I did earlier -- boxy • talk • 10:28 2 December 2007 (BST)

Can I help with this?-- Savant Chit-Chat 12:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Read up on the link above (in the header). And if you've any questions (no matter how stupid they may seem) ask -- boxy • talk • 12:12 2 December 2007 (BST)

Image:AquaAuto.jpg is a location image or not?-- Savant Chit-Chat 12:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

It's an icon to represent auto repair shops. So it goes into the icons category, and probably should go into the non-TRP locations category -- boxy • talk • 12:38 2 December 2007 (BST)

What is exactly TRP, and non-TRP?-- Savant Chit-Chat 12:39, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Tactical Resource Points -- boxy • talk • 12:43 2 December 2007 (BST)

Ha, and Auto Repair shops are now TRPs... so it should go in TRP locations category :) -- boxy • talk • 12:45 2 December 2007 (BST)

Any categories in your mind? (cause i don't know any)-- Savant Chit-Chat 18:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

If there isn't one for the important location, I've just been creating them. I'll take a look -- boxy • talk • 12:37 3 December 2007 (BST)

You too

I'm holding a discussion on possible reforms to the Arbitration system as a step before Policy Discussion, I'd like you're input.--Karek^maps?! 17:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Just wanted to drop by and thank you for your help with my sig image dealy. It works at that size. I was just worried I'd have to delete the whole thing. Thanks again! --Dr. Allison Wolf MEMS Talk PIF 23:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Sig Images

Wasn't the limit of the image heights 14px?-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 10:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah... sic em Rex -- boxy • talk • 10:35 29 November 2007 (BST)

Hehe

I stole it from you...(guess you know :) )-- Savant Chit-Chat 17:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Sigs

Eh. I guess you're right. I've got to be the mature one in this sig-fight between me and hagnat. I'll go back to the more moderate colors I had before. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 23:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Better? Can you help me make the text smaller? Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 23:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

You can put the <small></small> tags on it.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Is this better? Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 23:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I think I got it. Any more suggestions? And please look at A/VB Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 23:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Mod Scott just admitted to being Ahrimagicks. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 00:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops

I got called away unexpectedly, didn't check properly. Thanks for reverting.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 18:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Rouge Heart Aces

What have you done?! Ever since you moved our pages, our pages turned black and the set out is all wrong!--Sgt Beebus (RHA) 00:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

It was like that when I got here :) -- boxy • talk • 01:49 7 November 2007 (BST)

hm...

I have an ide,a it's kinda pointless, but on the Big Bash page, a small area like on Wikipedia pages with artciles of the same name like jason has a area at the top stating a link ot another page or the redirect, that somethign liek that goes ot the BB2 page, kinda pointless but jsut so it's known on the page and stuff. --Darkmagic 00:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Help?

If you have some free time, can you please make this page look nicer? To "tidy" it up go here, and change it (add borders, anything that is cool). Thanks. -- Savant Chit-Chat 19:35, 25 October 2007 (BST)

I'll put a basic background and navbar on it (when I get time), but I'll leave you to play around with the colours and layout and stuff -- boxy • talk • 00:00 3 November 2007 (BST)

Grimch slippery like eel

You responded to a small section of a post i made. I can understand this. Unfortunately, the times for your responses were 5 and 7 minutes after i had removed the section to which you referred. Oops :D --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 15:34, 25 October 2007 (BST)

Policy I'm Working On (Not Spam This Time.)

Is this already in place, or does it still need to be put through? My policy: One of the most basic newbie mistakes is to create a userpage under YourName rather than User:YourName. This can be incredibly frustrating to wiki users that try to find if that person has a userpage, and can confuse the person when they are welcomed on their User Talk:YourName page, not to mention if they vandalize- accidentally or not- and they need to be warned or banned. This is a problem that needs to be minimized as much as is possible, and so sysops need the power to merge these pages on sight, rather than having to go through other approval. Can you help me expand it, and fill it out if it isn't already in place and tell me if it is? Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 00:11, 12 October 2007 (BST)

SysOps already move user pages created in the main namespace to the user namespace when they see them, or are asked to in the move administration page. No one ever got warned for this minor issue in the wiki. So, there is no need for a policy about this. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 02:12, 12 October 2007 (BST)

This isn't really needed, as such pages are covered by speedydelete criterion 9, so we move and get rid of them already, and it doesn't cause any drama the way it is. I only try to change policy when the way things are done is causing too much trouble -- boxy • talk • 14:02 12 October 2007 (BST)

Ranting

Contrary to popular belief, i find constructive discussion to be quite helpful and refreshing. As such, i invite you to point out the rantings in the Wiki rant i posted, in the hopes of turning it into a wiki tool. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 21:11, 9 October 2007 (BST)

The whole introduction makes it a rant. "There are so many things wrong with voting on this wiki at present that its ridiculous. Such stupid and sloppy voting just drags the standard of the whole wiki down, and thats a shame for those of us genuinely trying to improve things for everyone. The following are a selection of stupid ways in which people undermine the entire purpose of the democratic system, often without realising it." Oh, and the fact you put it in Category:WikiRantings :P -- boxy • talk • 09:33 10 October 2007 (BST)

Thanks Boxy

Thanks for decorating this. -- Savant Chit-Chat 08:40, 7 October 2007 (BST)

New Template

{{Subst:Vandal Banning}}. Maybe you could add that to the VB page to assist with proper formatting of reports? Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 02:11, 1 October 2007 (BST)

Interesting template. However in it's current state I don't see it being used or advertised on A/VB. The key things to note are:

It links to Darkmagic's userpage
It requires two edits to use (one to subst in the template and one to change the username), you should learn about variables to avoid this.

I don't think this is very useful though because it adds un-nessacary complications to the process of making a report. - If Jedaz = 09:24, 1 October 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1

I agree with Jedaz, brings more complication into the page than is needed. It's a pretty simple task for people to report vandals, as long as we get the right name we can soon fix up their report anyway. It could be a useful template for experienced users, if you work out the variables thing -- boxy • talk • 10:44 1 October 2007 (BST)

I'm trying. I looked at it. I can't get the variables to work. Can you help me with that part? and I'm sorry for being rude earlier. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 11:49, 1 October 2007 (BST)

There ya go, try that. If you've got multiple variable, just number them 1, 2, 3, etc. and keep them in order when calling the template. I'd only name the variable if it was a large, complex template like a locationblock, or talk:suggestion type one -- boxy • talk • 13:09 1 October 2007 (BST)

Thank you. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 21:12, 1 October 2007 (BST)

My policy

Could you take a look, proof read... maybe give me a hint or two before sending it to vote yet again? Thanks! --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 23:59, 30 September 2007 (BST)

I'll take a look -- boxy • talk • 10:44 1 October 2007 (BST)

Your user page

Your user page... my eyes... my brain... it hurts. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 06:05, 30 September 2007 (BST)

I know I neglect it a bit... but how does it hurt your eyes? I thought it was rather bland, myself -- boxy • talk • 06:09 30 September 2007 (BST)

It reminds me of some good ole' dot com bubble pages... lots of images, lots of content... but no content. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 06:12, 30 September 2007 (BST)

Yes, well that is certainly true. I don't usually find myself interesting enough to write about ;) -- boxy • talk • 06:16 30 September 2007 (BST)

Cleanup

Heh, thanks for the cleanup on those disambiguation pages. I must have been getting pretty tired by the time I got to them, to make typos like that... --Morgan Blair 14:27, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Facebook Application

I recently discovered that Kevan has created an Urban Dead application for Facebook. I don't know if you have a Facebook account of your own to try it out, but should/could this be advertised somewhere? Perhaps the news on the front page? I'm not sure what's appropriate here, so you seem the best person to come to. 'arm . 20:10, 23 September 2007 (BST)

Oh, nevermind. I just found a link to it here. Could still possibly be advertised though... 'arm . 20:14, 23 September 2007 (BST)

Havn't had anything to do with facebook myself. I guess it could be placed on the Navigation template? -- boxy • talk • 06:40 24 September 2007 (BST)

Gah....

Is it me or is there nothing to do but help Project Welcome these days? --User:Axe27/Sig 03:27, 23 September 2007 (BST)

There's still quite a few missing locations to be blocked, and once that's finished, location links to disambiguation pages to redirect to the correct pages. You could take over the cycling of suggestions if you like, I can find other things to do. I'm sure there's other stuff around too...
Or, you could start some pointless drama... that's what most people seem to end up doing when they get bored ;) -- boxy • talk • 03:33 23 September 2007 (BST)

Hey, the wikipedia population needs entertainment. --User:Axe27/Sig 03:35, 23 September 2007 (BST)

Historical Group Nomination

I want to nominate The Profile Police for historical group. I've created the page and stuff, but don't know how to (or if I'm allowed to) get the information on the main page in that little news thingy. Can ya point me in the right direction? Thanks, --8 Bucks 19:34, 15 August 2007 (BST)

Nevermind, I think I got it. Thanks anyway. --8 Bucks 22:50, 15 August 2007 (BST)

Question

Can you check my User Page? I have got some problems with templates there. The "Here's the key" template is jumping of all other templates. How is that possible? Can you help? -- Savant Chit-Chat 09:36, 14 August 2007 (BST)

The problem is in the margin: 0 2em 0 2em; part. Try taking it out (or modifying it) The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 09:46 14 August 2007 (BST)

~~Thanks! ooopsss... Doesn't work :( Any else suggestion?~~Never mind... I done it someway... It seems. I have that on the template, and on the page (untemplated) and the only thing that I was touching was the template itself, not the template on the page. -- Savant Chit-Chat 10:04, 14 August 2007 (BST)

Code

Could you give me the raw code of your sig on my talk page? Thanks. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:19, 25 August 2007 (BST)

Sig

Your new sig is quite nice but it only displays day of the week not day of the month. That might create some confusion as all days are used four times in the month. worth looking into?-- Vista +1 23:17, 30 July 2007 (BST)

Thanks, some idiot used LOCALDAY instead of LOCALDATE. Now I've just gotta remember to sign with ~~~ rather than ~~~~ :) The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 01:59 31 July 2007 (BST)

Wha? I only just got that all those "unsigned" posts are infact your new sig. That's even more subversive that Swiers' "." sig he was using for a while. 'arm . 04:17, 31 July 2007 (BST)

The first few fooled me as well. But then I figured that no way Boxy would make that mistake that many times and I actually start reading the sig. sneaky devil.-- Vista +1 15:17, 31 July 2007 (BST)

I am at one with teh newbs >:) (BTW, the thought occurred to me while reading some of your attempts to get n00bs to sign, arm) The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 03:52 1 August 2007 (BST)

I try, I try. Mixed success I think. That massive {{welcomenewbie}} template is too large, and the text too small. It should give more of just the absolute basics. Like *only* how to sign and how to indent replies properly. 'arm . 09:45, 1 August 2007 (BST)

Unsigned

Sorry. I've been using {{unsigned}} all day, but it that case he put a comment with a sig, then deleted it when he had second thoughts and voted keep. But then forgot his sig. But yes, no more adding sigs for people. I tend to add {{unsigned}} and if they are new put something on their talk page reminding them how to sign. But everyone forgets now and again. 'arm . 18:10, 27 July 2007 (BST)

A wiki question

I was looking about the wiki for a page that included "Celebrity Sightings". You know, people could post up things like, "I was fortunate enough to be eaten by the Zombie Keith Moon!" with a link to the profile of the celebrity. Any idea if one exists, and if not, what would I need to do to get one started? --8 Bucks 19:42, 25 July 2007 (BST)

You may be looking for Malton Celebrities. It's not a group as such, I don't think -- boxy ^{T Nuts block it! DA} 23:23, 25 July 2007 (BST)

G. Delarue

It's a description of George Relarue whoever that is(page name might be a misspelling). Anyway it describes where he was born and certain points of his career as general and such(basically a character history of why he's in Malton). It's basically a character description but might be a person description, only problems with that are it sets the date he came to Malton as March 2007 and also said he has returned. Then again my French isn't what it used to be. Hope that helps.--Karek^maps?! 03:58, 23 July 2007 (BST)

Thanks. Looks like a character page then, I'll move it later, if none of the other guys do -- boxy ^{T Nuts block it! DA} 04:05, 23 July 2007 (BST)

sorry

aw sorry about the recruitment thing, i did notice all of the other ads gone and i wondered if i did something bad lol, sorry, im new at this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Butthead (talk • contribs) 06:24, July 22, 2007.

Ah well, ya get that -- boxy ^{T Nuts block it! DA} 09:21, 22 July 2007 (BST)

May I ask why?

Why did you delete the the header off the welcomenewbie template? --User:Axe27/Sig 16:56, 14 July 2007 (BST)

Rouge Heart Aces wiki pages

Hi, It was my first time making a wiki page, so I'm just wondering why you changed my sub-pages from RHA to Rouge Heart Aces? This is for future reference if I'm making any more sub pages for Rouge Heart Aces (RHA) cheers --Sgt Beebus (Merc for hire) 16:45, 13 July 2007 (BST)

RE: Template

No I think I'm doing pretty Well for my first time making one. Thanks Though!--Jackass Alex 11:08, 12 July 2007 (BST)

Category:Barricade plans

Thanks, I don't know what got into me with that link you fixed. (In case you hadn't guessed from recent changes today, we has a plan for this.) -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 07:36, 9 July 2007 (BST)

Seems like a lot of work, categorising all the plans on their compliance to the UBP, if that's your plan -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 07:41, 9 July 2007 (BST)

That's the easy part. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 07:44, 9 July 2007 (BST)

What's the big info then? -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 07:46, 9 July 2007 (BST)

Defining NPOV

I was going over old talk pages and such and noticed that you were interested in building a real and applicable description for NPOV for the Urban Dead wiki, when I checked I saw it still has never been done. The wikipedia description of NPOV has many major short coming when applied here and there are plenty of flaws with applying it and I think defining NPOV for Urban Dead is a necessary thing that could settle a lot of disputes. It is also something I've been looking for a way to try to do and get a consensus from users on for quite a while. So, that being said I would like to talk with you about setting up a definition for NPOV for the wiki through discussion of POV issues and such to see if we, and other users in the community, can come to a definitive conclusion on what can and can't be allowed(such as we all know that original research must be allowed but what about requiring proof, etc.). I'm sure we could discuss it on talk pages but mabey it would be best if we did it on the NPOV page talk page so everyone could participate and announce it as wiki news.--karek 23:35, 7 July 2007 (BST)

Well, I've started the talk page, let's see where this goes -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 01:07, 8 July 2007 (BST)

erroneous "article"

Somehow, this user talk page is included as an article at the bottom of Category:Current_Suggestions. And because I'm not fully sure how those those inclusions work, I can't work out why. Is it my fault for putting "Suggestion:Lie Down" as a link on his talk page? 'arm . 00:44, 8 July 2007 (BST)

You put a link to the current suggestions page in, but being a category page, it includes the page instead of creating a link unless you put a : before Category. Example [[:Category:Current_Suggestions#Making_a_Suggestion|here]] -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 00:48, 8 July 2007 (BST)

And I did it above too! No wonder I never see where I've gone wrong - it literally disappears! Anyway, cheers, and I'll keep trying to remember this for the future :). 'arm . 00:56, 8 July 2007 (BST)

It's the same with images, if you want to put a link to the image, rather than include it on the page, use [[:Image:Dupe.jpg]] -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 01:02, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Help with images

Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to control the height of images, so far I only know how to control the width (by adding --px as part of the image link) but can't find any reference to controlling the height. And it would be nice to be able to do so, for editing the recruitment page as sometimes the images are too large. Thanks in advance. - Whitehouse 19:02, 1 July 2007 (BST)

I believe it's possible to set the maximum height by putting in 10px x 10px instead of 10px. The image should keep it's ratio of width to height, but be limited to either the max width or height (whichever hits the limit first) you specify. Example below -- boxy ^{T Nuts2U DA} 09:06, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Thanks for the help. - Whitehouse 17:10, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Main Page

Main Page/new Whaddyasay ? The commannouce template then leaves the navigation template. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:27, 20 June 2007 (BST)

Iz Watching!

Thanks for the disambig thingy, I forgot about the STREETS craze...Oh, and pretty talk page!--Lachryma^☭ 13:27, 20 June 2007 (BST)

It's a bit historical now ain't it... but anyway, it's the first thing I thought of when I saw your new page in recent changes >:) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA}

I saw some of that graffiti, back in like October, and I had read said article too a while back...I can only remember so much though!--Lachryma^☭ 19:15, 20 June 2007 (BST)

Festivals/Events

I noticed the "Community Portal" on the UD wiki seemed to advertise various types of news. Would this include in-game events created by players, such as Biertag? --Mobius187 June 20 2007, 8:52 AM (EST)

Yeah, sure, I guess. You'd be better off asking Hagnat though, he's the one revamping the community portal -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 14:37, 20 June 2007 (BST)

hum, i guess that could fit in a new news category, and then we could bring back Current events --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 19:21, 20 June 2007 (BST)

Thanks

I'm new to winkis never used them till now, But I'm a fast learner. --User:lighterdark 10:12, 9 June 2007 (BST)

Die a painful death

Nah. I have two things to ask you: First, check my talk page as I asked you for some insight pertaining your template's formatting request. Second, look at User_talk:Kevan for something I found out about 8 months ago and told people about in several occasions but no one noted nor bothered to ask. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 07:08, 14 May 2007 (BST)

sysop template alignment

Yeah that wanked about half the inclusions (following text/template did not wrap well) so I rolled it back. --Max Grivas ^{JG / M.F.T.} 07:11, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Opps, sorry about that (but I'm sure no one important would be using that template, would they?) ;P -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 07:36, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Blah Blah Blah

Fool, all the text on my page is pink. Therefore, you shouldn't need to highlight anything. Thanks for the compliments though!--Lachryma^☭ 20:07, 29 April 2007 (BST)

Well...obviously banshees have hacked your computer, as the white space of said rat templates allows for the easy and efficient reading of reasons for/dealing with the awarding of rat templates, hence forth referred to as rats.--Lachryma^☭ 05:38, 30 April 2007 (BST)

That's weird. Too bad I have no idea how to fix it. I guess I could get each template's code and stuff...I wonder what strange bit of fate makes you see my page like that. It's very sad.--Lachryma^☭ 05:52, 30 April 2007 (BST)

Yeah, you can always hightlight it...like how I've already moved on with my life?--Lachryma^☭ 06:00, 30 April 2007 (BST)

That was the point of that clip, to bother your dog. Aight, laterzzz!--Lachryma^☭ 06:11, 30 April 2007 (BST)

templates

Are totally fucked on my talk page. I want to fix 'em, then archive 'em. How do I fix 'em?? And yes, I know the page is too long. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 12:14, 3 April 2007 (BST)

Erm, how do I align the Mod template on my page to the right? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 02:55, 28 April 2007 (BST)

Ah, thanks a bunch buddy... er, hang on - why is there a big space underneath the template? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 03:30, 29 April 2007 (BST)

There's no space at all underneath it on my 'puter -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 03:43, 29 April 2007 (BST)

Ah, I see now. There is a space underneath in Firefox, but not in ie6. Hmmm, interesting.... Firefox for once is a little buggy. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 06:47, 1 May 2007 (BST)

Yeah, just noticed the chat about the template. I think this is a good opportunity to cut it down into the basics and have it point to the underused help pages. I've been pretty busy lately, so I only noticed it a few hours ago. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 10:26, 16 May 2007 (BST)

A friendly advice

Please use the preview button (next to the "save page" button when editing) before saving, to ensure the changes you are making are going to work as expected. This saves you from creating multiple minor changes that "spam" the recent changes page for other users. --~~~~

--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 10:55, 6 April 2007 (BST)

Hahaaaa, damn I wish it worked... son-of-a-bitch wiki code! ;) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 11:03, 6 April 2007 (BST)

It's what I truly hate about templates... previews just don't work. Ironic eh! Any ideas about how to get a template to automatically sign for you? I don't like how it formats a sig when you type in {{Template}} ~~~~. It forces the signature onto a new line, rather than straight after the text -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 11:08, 6 April 2007 (BST)

Don't overdo it. All you have to do to sign is pressing a button. We can live with that. Nice template, BTW.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 11:16, 6 April 2007 (BST)

Too anal, eh? lol, OK fair enough :) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 11:26, 6 April 2007 (BST)

Renaming Sub-Group Wikipages

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but I cannot appear to rename a sub-group wikipage within the Category tag. For example, say I have the page Dead vs Blue/Members. Now say I wanted to put a category tag in their to group it with the other Dead vs Blue sub-pages (i.e. [[Category:Dead vs Blue]]). Now in that category page it will appear as Dead vs Blue/Members, even if on the wikipage I placed the tag as: [[Category:Dead vs Blue|Members]]. This is in contrast to how users can apparently edit how a location wikipage is categorized, namely by remove "The" from its title in order to properly alphabeticize it in the list. --Mobius187 April 10 2007, 8:51 AM

I'm not sure I know what you mean there. I tried it out on the members page, and by adding [[Category:Dead vs Blue|Members, Dead vs Blue]] it separated that page out into the M's part of the category, although it didn't "rename" the page there (but I don't think it ever did that, even for locations pages). Is that what you wanted, or something more? -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 00:54, 11 April 2007 (BST)

Projects

You might be interested in this page that I am working on, about helping newbies in all sorts of areas. At the moment, I've pretty much finished an advanced signature template walk though. Give me a few pointers perhaps on my talk page? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

You asked the big man yet whether there is a way of adding the welcome newbie template automatically to a new user's page?? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 11:54, 27 March 2007 (BST)

Na, still procrastinating about that (other stuff to do). Still think it would be a good idea, but maybe not the actual "welcomenewbies" on. Maybe one with the absolute bare bones...

This is the page for telling people about you and your characters --> link
This is your talk page where people can leave you messages --> link
{{sign}}
etc

Maybe with a link to the welcomenewbies page if they want more info? If your interested, I don't mind if you run with it (I may or may not get to it later) ;) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 12:13, 27 March 2007 (BST)

Wow, I really have to congratulate you in trying to streamline the suggestions page/system, while I've been tinkering with a possible (heck very likely) new user page. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 14:55, 12 April 2007 (BST)

Thanks. I really would love to be able use those tables to the best effect... but damn, it just gets so complicated. Someday, someday :) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 15:04, 12 April 2007 (BST)

Whats with

The width change? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 02:01, 26 May 2007 (BST)

Yeah, well I'm running a 22" screen at 1650*1050, so most pages stretched to fit a certain width look retarded anyways. I just think a set width is the best, that's all. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 07:19, 26 May 2007 (BST)

Project Sleep

You might be interested. Check it out and tell me what you think. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 09:15, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Oh, and also have a look at this page. It's just a sketchy idea of how the help section could be set out better. I think it needs a proper home page rather than a template at the bottom of the page. What do you think? Oh, I also want to revive Project Wiki Patrol. Appoint people specific tasks on the wiki, like maintaining the group advertisement page (which needs constant deleting and reformatting). --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 11:48, 19 May 2007 (BST)