User talk:Rosslessness/Hmm
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A+ work, would read and click on copious sexy thumbnails again. Though very unlikely, it's possible they're just very strong roleplayers and have a consistently weird style of writing they agreed on in a back room. The timing stuff is ridiculous, however, as is the fact that lots of the members have tons of posts on the forum. Chev being quick to jump on someone else for "zerging" is interesting to note, too. Thinks like a zerger, perhaps? Definitely worth a closer look. You intend to present this to them at all and see how they respond? --Bob Boberton TF / DW 
20:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've PM'd all the members of the forum I haven't identified as possible zergers, group members and allies alike, presenting them with the evidence. I'll leave it for the group to make its own conclusions. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Have you thought about talking to the ZHU? --
20:48, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- its linked on the resensitized lerg zist as we speak. I could always link it. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:49, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Sadface. There is a typo. I can't find it again, but you used "there" instead of "their" of "they're". And I will come up with a counter-point, if only to get a free cookie. -- Rahrah wants you all to know that MOM is open now. 21:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- Also, you might want to point out that Dave Radcliffe, m dear and J Long all posted in the recruitment section within a minute of each other. -- Rahrah wants you all to know that MOM is open now. 21:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- Meh. They don't fufil any of the other criteria. Different descriptions, no shared screenshots, different join dates and no shared log on times. Plus dave radcliffe was active in vinetown for the whole of the last year. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Now that's making a strong case. Unlike others (*cough*) I have seen in the past, this one actually has some good points. Nice job Ross, although the amount of work you did is outrageous for my own lazy standards D; --
Thadeous Oakley 21:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I dono about zerging, but as you may remember, they did a damn good job of hunting me down earlier this year. :/ -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Also, I think they're bestest buds in real life, and they play in the middle of school.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that's one hell of a case. I could have sworn I PKed Chev or one of the other members, but I can't find him on my list. I guess I'll just have to get back into PKing... --ZsL 22:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Not really proving anything. But I dug up some a message from Cheveyo off the old FOD fourm. --
TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I concur. There are too many damn red flags for this NOT to be true. (plus, the zerging is probably why they don't use RG- because it's probably a hugeass hassle when you're reporting for five alts. --Penguinpyro 23:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
This will be my first and last time answer these false allegations. I am not a zerger and I never have been. You will notice that my character has been around a long time. A lot longer than the rest of the people in the group. There is no reason for this at all. This is a game. But, you are trying to make this personal. It seems that you could do a lot more important things than this with your time. And by the way, I never accused you of zerging. Maybe someone else did that. But I can guarantee you that it was not me. It seems you are going after the wrong person here. --Cheveyo 11:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- You really should dispute at least something about what he said. He's presented a mountain of decently-compelling evidence, and you've presented a simple statement. For outsiders to this whole situation, such as myself, you can guess how this must look. If what he's saying is so patently false, challenge it. Dispute his claims. Tell us not just that he's wrong but why and how he's wrong. Personally speaking, if someone attacked my integrity like he's essentially attacked yours, I wouldn't stand for it, and I don't know how any other innocent person could either. —Aichon— 13:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Response To Chev
Hello Chev. Thanks for responding. If you didn't spraypaint an entire suburb to accuse me of zerging, fair enough. I don't have any evidence that is was you, only a strong suspicion. As your post on the AZS chatboard does show, you do accuse people of zerging. I can only apologise if this was not the case.
Yes. Your first character was active long before the other alts. I can't dispute that. However I strongly disagree that this is proof you aren't zerging. I believe that no one comes to the game on day 1 with the clear idea of cheating. We all start with one character, learn about the game and its mechanics and over time, learn about other things. Then over the weeks and years we create alts to experience different sides of the game.
Which is interesting as you've only got one declared alt. Never fancied being a zombie, or running two independent characters? I mean, you only need 50ip hits to run one character right?
But then again, 4 of the 6 original characters I accused you of zerging with? All were created between the 8th and the 16th of December 2007. All four of them registered on your forum on the 19th December 2007. All of them write ... in the exact same style ...
If you have nothing to do with any of these alts, then does it not worry you that they're all acting in a remarkably similar way? I'd do a full investigation of the group. Looks like you've got a determined zerger in your midsts whose been duping you for years. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
tl;dr, Chev's a zerger or to stupid to recognize a zerger in his group.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Response to the accusations
Ok guys. I will try to explain what is happening or has happened. I am an English teacher in Asia. I taught in Korea for five years and am now teaching in Thailand. Being as this is a game that you have to read and understand in order to play the game. Some students are encouraged to participate and play. I tell them the group name and they join it. Their English isn't that good so they tend to copy the style of the leader. That is why there tends to be the similarity in posting styles. Also, they tend to log on when they are at school on the same server. So they take turns to play and post as they are unable to log on as multiple users on the same system. And that is why it seems that a few people joined the group one after the other, created their characters near the same times, and post in a similar manner. I really am upset about all these accusations as it seems quite personal. I don't think it is needed. I am sorry to Penguinpyro for accusing him of being a zerger. I admit that was a mistake. Sometimes, you are just trying to get a response. And it seems that matter has been cleared up. And I will ask Penguinpyro to accept my apology. I was wrong to do that. Personal attacks are not needed in this game. We all love our characters and sometimes we do take things personally. But in the end, it is still a game that we all enjoy. --Cheveyo 09:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
