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===Wiki Stuff===
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==...==
And you are now considered my stalker!--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 01:00, 5 October 2008 (BST)
:Maybe later, if I can find a good enough stalker medal. If not, I'll find a different surprise for you!--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 16:11, 5 October 2008 (BST)
==Gone?==
Sad to see you go.  Take care. --[[User:Pdeq|<span style="color: green">Pdeq</span>]]<sup><span style="color: blue">[[User_talk:Pdeq|Talk]][[Signature Race|*]]</span></sup> 16:36, 8 July 2008 (BST)
Yes... goodbye. <small>Phase two completed, begin phase three of super secret evil plan for wiki domination.</small> --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:02, 8 July 2008 (BST)
:Let see...Phase 3 is to see me leave?  Not happening. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:24, 10 July 2008 (BST)
Kind of ironic, this, me coming back here to say goodbye to someone :) Anyway, enough about me. Just wanted to say thanks for making this place fun, bringing The Mighty Boosh to my attention, and some of the best rambling conversations ever. All the best! --[[User:Pavluk|Pavluk]] <sup>[[Project_Atmosphere|A!]] [[Project_Evil|E!]]</sup> 22:47, 8 July 2008 (BST)
Sorry to see you go...--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:28, 9 July 2008 (BST)
:Yep. Leaving - this time probably for good. It's been fun though guys, great place - great people - I just can't realisticaly commit any time to the internets any more. Make sure you keep this place the right side of weird and funny though!--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 12:41, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Sorry to see you go, mate — had fun messing about, even if I didn't end up tracking down and eating your char. Goodbye and good luck! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 15:07, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Haha!  I knew secretly stationing some of my Mudkips outside 73's fortress for sabotaging purposes would work.  Now for the next phase in 73's downfall...  <small>Yes.  It is a sad day in wiki history to see one of the unbiased mods leave.  OK...maybe he was a little biased...</small> --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:24, 10 July 2008 (BST)
==Templatey Goodness==
{{73}}
I'm on a template-making spree and ain't no stoppin' me. Enjoy! --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 22:37, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Please go to http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Deletions and vote Keep so that the Grimch doesn't try to delete the template I made for you (and others). Thank you. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 13:23, 27 June 2008 (BST)
==Moving Pages==
Is there some reason you didn't use the actual "move" function?  It's nice because it keeps the page history intact. --[[User:Pdeq|<span style="color: green">Pdeq</span>]]<sup><span style="color: blue">[[User_talk:Pdeq|Talk]][[Signature Race|*]]</span></sup> 17:26, 14 June 2008 (BST)
==Nothing to see here...It's not special...==
{{Gnome|Seventythree}} *Walks away whistling a little tune...* --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 16:21, 8 June 2008 (BST)
==[[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Gardenator#Satirical_Suggestion_Ideas| http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Gardenator#Satirical_Suggestion_Ideas]]==
You know I am surprised that you would allow yourself to become a tool for certain users (who are all friends or sockpuppets) and actually agree with them. 
"Satirical Suggestion Ideas Can you stop making them please?"  Are you saying my suggestions are ridiculous?  Or are you just repeating Tselita's ideas?  '''What grounds do you have to tell me to stop making suggestions?'''  Are my suggestions unrealistic?  Do they convey a certain humor in them?  In my opinion, the numbers I put up [[Talk:Suggestions#NailGuns_Clean_Skylights| Talk:Suggestions#NailGuns_Clean_Skylights]] was both well thought out and balanced; which is rather rare on the suggestion page.  Or are you saying that once someone "claims" an idea, that it can never be rehashed by another user?  It was obvious that the poor survivors didn't like the overpowered [[dark| dark]] update.  My idea was simply a more balanced one than the previous two.  As far as my [[Talk:Suggestions#Toolbox_equals_Tangling_Grasp| Talk:Suggestions#Toolbox_equals_Tangling_Grasp]] suggestion, I can show you a lot of suggestions that are not half as thought out as that one.  Just because I like to throw in humor to sway my intended audience, my entire suggestion is worthless?  '''The idea that you can tell me that my suggestions are "take(ing) up space" from "other, proper suggestions" is the epitome of what is wrong with this wiki.'''  Right now, how many "proper suggestions" are on the suggestion page and also show me the warning you gave every user who did not fall into your "proper suggestions" definition.  In closing, let me just quote [[User:Nubis| Nubis]], "With the state of the suggestions these days it is hard if not impossible to tell what is humorous and what is trying to be legit."  --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 23:52, 2 June 2008 (BST)
==Arbitration question==
Would taking people like Gardenator and DrPain to arbitration help at all? I'm not sure if it would, especially since some arbitrators like Nubis and Karek seem to be clearly biased (see what's going on in the Talk:Suggestions page with the 'Nailguns Clean Skylights' suggestion Gardenator made.  Or should I just try Arbitration against the entire Malton Globetrotters since they tend to all do the same thing - Gardenator, DrPain, and DCC just being the most vocal and blatant ones (and people like Riseabove and Cryptosporidium using gifs specifically to harass me on suggestions) What's the point of my not going straight to voting if they're going to use Talk:Suggestion as a place to spam and troll with insults no matter what?  Ignoring them isn't seeming to make a difference.  Advice sought - thanks. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 19:17, 2 June 2008 (BST)
Okay and now they're accusing me of being a sock puppet.  This is the second time they've done it - the first time was when they said I was Kamikaze-Bunny because I defended his suggestion. Now someone else is saying stuff on my suggestion and they're again accusing me. Please do something about this - they're clearly trolling for anything I say, and flame wars are starting over this - even when I'm not saying anything at all.  The stupid mockery-suggestions need to stop --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 19:59, 2 June 2008 (BST)
==Ladedada...==
Hey!  There's no spam section!  Ah well...This'll do.  You remember that cardboard knight set you took from Gnome?  Yeah...About that...I might have [[User talk:Axe Hack|''borrowed'']] it... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 10:49, 27 May 2008 (BST)
==Nailguns v2.0==
Okay since there are, according to most people, about 11 sock puppets voting on my suggestion (and apparently on several other people's suggestions as well), I'm taking down my suggestion and putting up v2.0. Can you or someone else help me to figure out how to take down the original suggestion - the last time I did was at the beginning of voting, not near the end, and I'm a bit ticked off about what has happened --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 07:11, 19 May 2008 (BST)
:Now you know how I felt when people trolled me off of my promo bid. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:32, 22 May 2008 (BST)
::Yeah, sorry that happened by the way Axe.  Think of it like a badge of honor that so many shmucks are scared of you being a positive contribution to the wiki as a sysop thta they had to resort to lame methods to prevent it.  If so many brain-damaged hiveminds are against you and they need to ''call in the troops'', you must be doing something really right. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 19:40, 22 May 2008 (BST)
:::Well...I made one little mistake as well, and that would be using the trolls' plans against them.  But if you look at it, I convinced only 1 person, while the trolls convinced many. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:45, 22 May 2008 (BST)
::::You got quality over quantity --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 17:14, 25 May 2008 (BST)
:::::Not really, he got a buddy he ''paid'' to vote for him.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:17, 25 May 2008 (BST)
:::::: Wow karek.. here... my user page.... stalk much? ... I stand by my view - quality over quantity. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 17:44, 25 May 2008 (BST)
::::::And guess what?  In the end, I didn't pay him because he doesn't even remember me owing him money.  That's what happens when everything is happening over Spring Break.  75% chance they'll be too drunk to remember anything. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 26 May 2008 (BST)
==Question about signing==
First of all, can't figure out your talk page.  It says to use a level 3 header, but everyone is using a level 2, and then your sections start with a level 3, which makes the TOC very screwy.  And it doesn't say whether to post at the top or bottom.  Very confusing.  But anyway, not why I'm here.  I had a question about signing policy.  [[User:A Helpful Little Gnome|AHLG]] wasn't sure, so I was wondering if you could [[User talk:A Helpful Little Gnome#Signing Policy|chime in over there]]. --[[User:Pdeq|<span style="color: green">Pdeq</span>]]<sup><span style="color: blue">[[User_talk:Pdeq|Talk]][[Signature Race|*]]</span></sup> 03:46, 13 May 2008 (BST)
==Question about Trolling and possible dupe accounts==
I've been seeing a lot of newly made wiki accounts (literally new - it's like they made the account solely to vote kill and spam, not sure if that means it's a double or what) and The Dead wiki accounts all going to my suggestion. Is there any way to find out if this is considered trolling or if it's someone making duplicate accounts? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 20:45, 8 May 2008 (BST)
:Bah, Kevan reads them anyway. PR is just for epeen. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:58, 8 May 2008 (BST)
::Okay not up on my wiki slang.... what's epeen mean? --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 21:21, 8 May 2008 (BST)
::And now these four... The first three The Dead 'votes' aren't even votes, they're just saying 'stupid'. Except for Scooby, he's put a mysognistic/sexist flair on his 'stupid' insulting. <br>
Kill Sorry but this is just proof that women will never ever understand power tools. Stay in the kitchen next time.--ScoobyDooDoobie 19:57, 8 May 2008 (BST)<br>
Kill -- Stupid idea. Even as improvised weapons, nailguns would be practically useless. Cryptosporidium 04:51, 8 May 2008 (BST)<br>
Kill -- Seriously?! Everyone who's voted Keep needs to take a long hard look at themselves, this is really stupid. --Deadtanian 16:29, 8 May 2008 (BST) <br>
:They're fine, really. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:03, 8 May 2008 (BST) ''edit:'' [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=e-peen epeen]. 03:34, 14 May 2008 (BST)
::K, if you say so.  I'll stop concerning myself about it then. I think the whole 'women in the kitchen' thing did it for me :)  I guess it's better than them cursing me out. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 22:06, 8 May 2008 (BST)
:::I can't help but think that this all started because of me...I must prepare reparation cookies for all those affected by the Dead... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:22, 9 May 2008 (BST)
::::Pardon, Axe? --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 21:01, 11 May 2008 (BST)
:::::In plain English: Anyone who tried to defend me during my Sysops Bid became a target for the Dead. Therefore, I feel this all started with me.  You know...I never did plan on coming back until the Dead didn't exist anymore.  Heck, I even thought about getting an alt on this wiki. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 11:11, 13 May 2008 (BST)
::::::''Kill Another worthless, self important Tselita gun suggestion. Please stop pretending like you know what you're talking about. Shotgun slug rounds are horrifically inefficient for urban combat, they are most often used when big game hunting in the Serengeti, or when being used by a S.W.A.T. team to bust open a locked door in a raid. Furthermore, some slug rounds require a special rifling pattern or even a smooth bore barrel. Why don't you suggest something like being able to bedazzle & sticker your cel phones, or how about oven mitts. --#19 - DrPain TMG 18:43, 13 May 2008 (BST) '' - Seriously, isn't this a troll vote? Sexist too, but seriously. Within 2 days, at least a dozen The Dead members all voting '''only''' on my suggestions, to vote kill, most of whom don't even seem to have read the suggestion that they're killing from the looks of things? I never even HEARD of DrPain, and he's never voted on anything I've made that I know of, and yet suddenly he's posting how 'another worthless Tselita suggestion'? He's voting kill because it's a suggestion from ME, not because it's a bad suggestion, and he's not even hiding that fact. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 18:55, 13 May 2008 (BST)
:::::::I don't think so...It might be because the Dead knows you're somehow affiliated with me, and they're on a crazy vendetta to troll anyone affiliated with me off the wiki. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:17, 13 May 2008 (BST)
:::::::I voted kill on the survivor buff because it's a survivor buff while zombies are losing ground with almost every mall back to EHB and survivor numbers steadily gaining.  Why do you have such a hard time understanding opposing viewpoints?  Should we go on ZNN (Zombie News Network) and yell at each other for the 15 minutes?  --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 02:49, 14 May 2008 (BST)
::::::::Big whoop.  Just wait a few months and the game'll be in zombie favor.  You see, Urban Dead's like a see-saw.  On one end are the survivors, and on the other, are the zombies.  And every few months, the see-saw tips to either the zombie or survivor's favor. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 10:55, 14 May 2008 (BST)
:::::::::Not really Axe. The zombies have always had it harder than survivors have. I'd know. The only time it really tips like that is when we get massive hordes like LUE or The Dead. Other than that, most of the time only 5 or 6 'burbs are unsafe for survivors. Out of a hundred. The ratio isn't really worth piss anyway, as a good chunk of zombies are waiting for needles, or PKers.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 11:01, 14 May 2008 (BST)
::::::::::Meh. Zombies tend to get a hard time of it, though no more so than survivors have been getting recently. Don't forget that the stats tend not to work the other way, as you get stuff like CR'ed zombie players, and the factional infighting between survivors or "human" players is much greater, zombies tend to do better at the entire co-operation thing. I do'nt personaly know wether zombies are just better at complaining about stuff (not saying that they have nothing to complain about, just that they tend to be more vocal and better at getting across an inteligent point). As for people targetting those who stood up for Axe and vouched for him? I was involved in trying to sort out all that crap and none of the Dead are after me. I'm guessing that they're going after you Tselia for two things 1) you make suggestions - always been a popular arena for wind-ups and flamewars and 2) you've shown several times that you respond when provoked. I have mentioned this before - just ignore them. Seriously. The dead - unfortunately have a few arseholes in their group (and please, lets not blame them for everything - this kind of stuff went on before the Dead showed their faces - and there's a few Dead members who don't do that sort of crap) and they tend to be the kind of people who troll for a response. If there was a big button marked "hit me" you wouldn't keep pressing it would you? Responding to trolls is about as effective as that. They want a dumb argument, god knows why but they do. The internet seems to bring the worst out in some people.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 12:41, 14 May 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::::Seventythree, seriously. I didn't start any of this. It's incredibly obvious that it's a group out to target only my suggestions. I -had- been ignoring DCC.  So he brought a dozen friends to all start trolling.  Heck all but two of them (Gardenator and DCC) of them have been only voting on my suggestions, no other ones. Most of them have in their suggestions some sort of directed insult at me.  I have no problem with zombies - these are not zombies. They're RL people who are being flamebaiting idiots from a 'Hitler' group (wtf?) who seem to like to point out my sex (and I'm not sure if the Hitler thing is about my being jewish or because they're just generally offensive people and have always been).  I mean really... I have people voting sexist stuff in there, calling me names, voting no on stuff that not only isnt a part of the suggestion - it's specifically listed as not being a part of it in the suggestion itself.  The last part... fine. But the first two parts are not acceptable and they really need to be told so. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 14:57, 14 May 2008 (BST)
::::::::::::::Tell me, do you have proof that he went to the SA forums and said "Hai guyz, lets trol dis girl!", if not, then don't make accusations. They may swarm, but from my experience as an ex-goon (I'd still be one, but I forgot my account name and stuff a year or two ago), they all tend to think for themselves, even if they don't show it. And even if they're voting just on your suggestions. So what? They can do that. There is no rule against it. And I've looked through your suggestions list, and quite frankly, the only ones the dead seem to be targeting (actually, I should say the ''one'') is your nail-gun suggestion. And I've looked through the nail-gun suggestion. You know what I saw? Perfectly legal-non trollish votes. You wanna see trolling? Look through some of Sonny's votes on past suggestions. As it stands, they aren't trolling. Nor are they being particularly insulting. Hell, Grim is meaner than the goons. Again, not trying to be mean, but please stop the whole "I'm bein' trolled! Complain, complain, complain" stuff. It's pretty annoying. And the Hitler references aren't serious. If you knew SA, you'd realize it's just them trying to piss people off. Nothing personal about it, they aren't trying to target you for being Jewish. If you still don't believe me that it isn't trolling, link me to the ones that you still think are, and I'll disprove it by showing you an actual troll response in that manner. And the sexism isn't that big of a deal. On that count, I'd say ignore it. Sexism is sexism, everyone is a victim of it. I lost a job awhile ago due to it, almost lost my apartment too. The only way you can really deal with it is to ignore it. If there is any way I can be of service to you though (arbitrating, formatting, coding) let me know. I may be sounding like a dick here and there, but I'm really a nice person, and I'm willing to help if you need it. Good day.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 16:04, 14 May 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::::::Actually I have no doubt that you -are- a nice person.  Even if I disagree with you, you haven't been outrageously rude. Can't really tell if he went on the SA forums to do it or communicated with them another way since I can't get on the SA forums (and I only go to SA to read bad movie reviews anyway). If you want a troll vote, please look at Dr Pain's vote on the tumbler slug (and also on the nailgun, though the tumbler slug one he actually was insulting me, while the nailgun one he was just being rude). The guy acts like he's known me for a while when I have never heard of him before, and he's never voted on anything since I've been on the wiki. And sorry, but the sexism thing -is- disgusting.  Just because everyone is a victim of it doesn't mean it should be tolerated any more than a racist or bigoted comment should be.  As for the hitler thing, yeah I figured that it was probably because they're just antisemitic jerks, not just against me (since the only reference I've ever given to them knowing I'm jewish is about my uncle being israeli and my knowing how to speak hebrew when I read that DCC's sig was incorrectly 'Dalet Qop Qop' (apparently they find it funny to put a yellow star of david like what the nazis used during the holocaust on jewish prisoners/citizens, next to a hebrew spelling of their names) --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 16:20, 14 May 2008 (BST)
::::::::::::::::I'll say it again.  A quick Arby's case will settle things rather quick. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 13:21, 18 May 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::::::::Sorry 73 - You're both right... most of this stuff didn't belong on your page.--[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 01:05, 23 May 2008 (BST)
==Cookie==
{{Cookie|Ornithopter|Seventythree|reason=thinking steampunk.}}
If you like steampunk and things that are awesome, you might want to check out [http://freakangels.com FreakAngels] and [http://www.xorph.com/clockers Clockers]. -{{User:Ornithopter/sig}} 22:34, 7 May 2008 (BST)
== Imagination ==
Ever wonder why Urban Dead has no images in game?
Its because the creator wants us to imagine it ourselves.
Putting an image on EVERYTHING will hinder it.
I mean would you like an image of that BIG FAT MAN stuck in your head while playing your fireman?
Do you want those (not all of them though) crappy looking image stuck in everybody's mind?
NO! I say no!
These images are only polluting our view of the game world
Let the creativity flow man!
This is a free game so it deserves a free mind
I'm the one who started putting images in them in the first place so I have the right to remove them as I please
Well except for the ones I didn't started
Besides its bad for Role Playing you know.
UDWIKI IS NOT AN IMAGE WHORE!!! --[[User:Loosermass|Loosermass]] 05:38, 5 May 2008 (BST)
::Those pictures don't worry me in the slightest, maybe i have such a good imagination other peoples images don't hinder my own experience...maybe not...Anyway for a fairly inactive user its a big call to remove all those pictures that have been there for a long time...you could have put your request/thoughts on the talk pages or something...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:46, 5 May 2008 (BST)
:Don't give me that Loosermass, you've got the hump because someone [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Zombie&diff=1117741&oldid=1115943 removed] your [[:Image:Zombie art.jpg|image]] from the [[Zombie]] page. Go take it up with [[User:Hagnat|Hagnat]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 06:02 5 May 2008 (BST)</small>
::ha! Onya boxy.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:05, 5 May 2008 (BST)
I don't care about that image being removed heck I'm happy they removed it! --[[User:Loosermass|Loosermass]] 06:28, 5 May 2008 (BST)
:::I just don't think you should have neccisarily removed the item images without asking anyone, that's all. They do look a bit untidy, I guessbut you should have put your efforts to cleaning them up, not wiping them. Oh, and the fact that you posted the images does not give you the right to remove them all if you wish. Imagine if whoever came up with the dangermap system thought the same way?--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 10:06, 5 May 2008 (BST)




===Ingame stuff===
===Ingame stuff===
====Manhunt====
If you remember the old Manhunt in UD discussion a few years back...It's coming back again.  Check Gnome's talk for the details. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:39, 9 June 2008 (BST)
===Sysop Stuff===
==== [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Voting|misconduct voting]] ====
hi. could you vote on [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Voting|my misconduct case]] ? Vote for, vote against, just vote. I just want this thing to be over. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 02:57, 25 May 2008 (BST)
:Your user page hurts my eyes. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 03:00, 25 May 2008 (BST)
====Hagnat====
You don't believe we should demote sysops who have shown they're pathologically incapable of following the rules just because they do it "in the heat of the moment"? Hagnat has made precisely zero effort to shape up his act - that is surely bad faith in of itself. --[[User:Cyberbob240|brb, church]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 22:33, 26 May 2008 (BST)
I see. Should I bring up a case against him requesting demotion based on all his cases would that satisfy you? --[[User:Cyberbob240|brb, church]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 09:03, 27 May 2008 (BST)
===[[A/VB]] Stuff===
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Vandal_Banning] Please take the time to respond on the Soramu case... I'm not sure why it has been overlooked. I'd also like a conformation that this is vandalism. Thanks! (It's great to have you back in game btw){{User:Lemonhead7t7/Sig}} 21:57, 5 May 2008 (BST)
I think you forgot to warn [[User:Signguy|this guy]].  A warning is good for now, but if he screws up again, I think a perma would be in order.  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 21:59, 24 April 2008 (BST)
:No problem.  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 00:18, 25 April 2008 (BST)
== ur user page ==
hurt my eyes... but not that i look at it that often nowadays... --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 23:11, 17 August 2008 (BST)
:Holy crap!  That's a bad example of my 2 favorite colors!  Red and black!  AHHH!!!!  Now I hate those colors!!! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:33, 17 August 2008 (BST)

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