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== Radio Transmissions ==
== Radio Transmissions ==


Rooster, Is there any way to get a transcript or archive of every transmissions ever sent from a certain frequency?  Thanks! {{unsigned|Tpelletier|14:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC)}}
Rooster, Is there any way to get a transcript or archive of every transmissions ever sent from a certain frequency?  Thanks! <small>—The preceding {{wikipedia|Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned}} comment was added by [[User:Tpelletier|Tpelletier]] ([[User talk:Tpelletier|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tpelletier|contribs]]) 14:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC).</small>


:Not to my knowledge. I doubt Kevan keeps them archived or anything. So unless you can find a record on the wiki or in an iWitness report or similar, they're probably gone for good. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 14:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:Not to my knowledge. I doubt Kevan keeps them archived or anything. So unless you can find a record on the wiki or in an iWitness report or similar, they're probably gone for good. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 14:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 08:25, 20 May 2011

2010 ARCHIVE

Oldest posts, at the time of original message, are at the top.

Subheadings have be added to some of the longer conversations, that did not always exist before archiving.

Template:If equal and other stuff

Since I'm guessing you're one of the few that might take an interest in it, I thought I'd mention that I edited Template:If equal so that it's actually functional now. The old version didn't work with this version of the wiki software, but I figured out a way to get the same functionality by using switch statements. I also figured out how to do AND, OR, and XOR, and have a demo for all four of these templates here. Those last three aren't in the public namespace, given that I haven't seen a need for them yet and hate to post templates that won't get used, but I thought I'd mention them in case you had an opinion on my implementation or ideas for uses.

Also, is something like this simply too much for the server? It's demonstrated here.

And while I have you, one last question: did you ever figure out a way around that issue with using noinclude on nowiki? I was trying to figure out a way to get ~~~~ in a template converted into an actual signature only upon inclusion, but not be converted when saving the template itself. No luck, but I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Aichon 09:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure if I can think of any uses, but I guess you could keep it around if anybody ever thinks of something to use it for.
Your demo for GSGM is probably too much, it can handle maybe 20-25 groups before dying. It you view the source code for the page (or any page) you should find an HTML comment near the end of the content like so:
<!-- 
Pre-expand include size: ''blah'' bytes
Post-expand include size: ''blah'' bytes
Template argument size: ''blah'' bytes
Maximum: 307200 bytes
-->
This is the cost of the current template transclusions. Each is considered separately towards the maximum and usually the pre-expand size is the one that maxes out first. Your demo is 70k out of the 307k so you can make a guess from that.
It could be cut down, but for the GSGM I don't know if we need a monolithical table (despite what I may have said before on the GSGM talk pages :P) since everybody seems to get by with the by-suburb test we did before.
I never did have any luck with the nowiki/noinclude parsing. For automatic signing I think they'd have to enter the four tildes themselves somewhere. I don't think you can get around it. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

<3

Thanks for that edit to Template:NoNews, I haven't been bothered to find the actual code for that. Ah, good old Rooster, saving the world one template at a time.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

sigh

I do realise it could well be weeks before you find this message, but what the hell. Samhain Slaughter 3. I'm needing a hand on this sort of colossal fuckup. --

03:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I spent quite some time reorganising the code layout to try and give some sembelance of decent design. It's fixed the worst errors interfering with the external wiki layout, so it looks like I've fixed it on the outside, though it's still a mess on the inside. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
If that's the best we can do, I'm happy. Nice one. -- 22:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I could do more, but like, fuck that. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Radio Transmissions

Rooster, Is there any way to get a transcript or archive of every transmissions ever sent from a certain frequency? Thanks! —The preceding Template:Wikipedia comment was added by Tpelletier (talkcontribs) 14:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC).

Not to my knowledge. I doubt Kevan keeps them archived or anything. So unless you can find a record on the wiki or in an iWitness report or similar, they're probably gone for good. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 14:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Awesomesauce!

I noticed you used my word. Just wanted to say thank you for helping me to spread the awesome.sauce.--Sean Connolly 17:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Very sorry Sean, but...well...I've heard awesomesauce before. :( It's an "uncommon" thing to hear, but I've heard it. In other words awesomesauce is awesome but you didnt invent it...if that wat u thought. IF. Awesomeness is also a term used in the same area. :D--Supercohboy 20:40, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

A/RE

Thanks for the above help, you have once again amazed me with your skills. Anyway, the real reason I'm popping in is to actually notify you of your bid which was scheduled and put up, unfortunately though, no one told you. just a heads up. --

08:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 14:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Example District Page

Okay, so here is our example page already in the main namespace. Less work than I thought, although it is far from aesthetically pleasing. Had to create Template:District for the sidebar and will have to make a minimap for each district, but otherwise it pretty much handles itself. I also created a page for the district barricade plan linked right to the page, and that's pretty much good to go aside from coding up a boilerplate template for that and adding a variable to the suburb boilerplate to link to the district one. Thoughts? --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 12:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

You could extend The DistrictFormX templates to handle both the map and resource building layout. That way you can save on needing an extra minimap which links them up. Anyway, the page seems to work technically, but I just wonder if we're in need of these. Maybe you should ask around and gather some opinion as to whether they'll actually be useful? Maybe start a GD on it. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

What's with all the templates?

I noticed you've been editing a lot of templates, and was curious as to what you were doing. So,.... what's up with all the template editing? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 18:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Just cleaning up code and making sure the the categories are correct for the various flagboxes. Nothing special, but there are a lot of them. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that there were a lot of them.... anything I could do to lend a hand? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 18:59, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
You could list any that look like they need attention. But I'll likely get around to them all eventually. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 19:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Sound like you have it under control then? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 19:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Dude

Fuck BC2, get Shattered Horizon.

Also, steam account?--Big Cat 23:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

You mistakenly assume I have a PC capable of running any games from this decade. So fuck random PC-only title. BC2 ftw. No steam (obviously) but an XBL gamertag (no points for guessing it) -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
You have made me slightly sadder and more depressed than I have been. :(
Also, with the hidden ultra low setting in TF2 you could probably run it.--Big Cat 23:41, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
384Mb of memory. I doubt that's enough somehow... -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:53, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
You need 512 minimum, but then again, the ultra low setting isn't factored into that.--Big Cat 00:01, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Still, my point is made. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 00:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

DSS template

Just wanted to thank you for the huge edit and add on onto the DSS Template you made.--No one ever pays Rufus in gum! 04:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, is the EMR Bot Broken?

I couldn't seem to find any page stating it was, but it hasn't done any updates since mid February. I only ask because people keep posting reports there instead of manually updating things themselves, which I have been for about a week now (no complaints, I kinda enjoy updating things myself). And due to people still updating only the bot page, about a months worth of reports went unprocessed and lots of suburbs are stuck in February. Hope it's an easy fix, I'd hate for you to have to slave over this or something. I also removed the oldest unprocessed report in an attempt to get the bot a'rollin, hope that doesn't cause any extra problems.

-MidgetMe 01:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Not broken, it's just run manually. So when I disappear on months of gaming binge, no reports get processed. You can always just update by hand, and berate me for vanishing without warning, of course :P. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:39, 5 April 2010 (BST)
Ah I see. Haha completely understandable then. Sometimes you just need to step away for awhile. :) enjoy your time, good sir.
-MidgetMe 10:19, 11 April 2010 (BST)

yo, babycakes

I would kill for an update to this.... pleeease? --

01:49, 5 April 2010 (BST)

I could get around to it... -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:42, 5 April 2010 (BST)
Wait, you're requesting a demotion? You fucker! -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:58, 5 April 2010 (BST)
Anyway, did the whole set of images. Enjoy. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 00:30, 6 April 2010 (BST)
Yeah!!! I'm outa here! And thanks! -- 10:32, 11 April 2010 (BST)

Labour link

Neither, I just couldn't be bothered to colour it red, and it looked quite good.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:43, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Work me some magic dammit!...

I've been told by Aichon that I should seek your magical wiki coding magic to find a solution,... and if your voodoo couldn't fix it, there was no way... I want to put the table of contents on the page, with a transparent background, so that the background color of the page in question comes through. Magic! NOW! -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 14:15, 9 May 2010 (BST)

The colour of the TOC is coded directly into the CSS. You can't change it without mucking about on the sitewide CSS file. So basically, you're stuck with the grey.
Alternatively, you could force NOTOC and maintain your own table of contents which you can then style as you like. Obviously it won't update automatically however. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:06, 10 May 2010 (BST)
That's the same thing I was thinking before I asked Aichon, and what he told me almost exactly. Thanks for the help... I really appreciate it. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 17:11, 10 May 2010 (BST)

Malls and TRPs

I noticed that with the TRP template update, you don't seem to be listing malls (at least, you didn't list Caiger Mall in either Darvall or Chudleyton). Anyway, just thought I'd point it out in case it slipped. If it's intentional and you're coming back to it, please continue as you were. :P Aichon 10:14, 24 May 2010 (BST) Gatcombeton and Quarlesbank too. Aichon 10:15, 24 May 2010 (BST)

Whoops. :P -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 10:19, 24 May 2010 (BST)
Looks like the malls might need some extra work anyhow. I figure they need some co-ords, hell might as well see if it's even worth keeping MallStatus around, wouldn't be much lost in a transfer to BuildingStatus. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 10:27, 24 May 2010 (BST)
Yeah, when I saw they were missing, I went to go add them myself, but quickly realized they'd require extra work, and I'm already winding down for the night (gonna hit the sack after this edit, in fact). I just got a laugh out of going to see how the new template looked in my survivor's home suburb, only to see that Caiger Mall was missing. I figured odds were that you had something special already figured out and were just gonna swing through in a few minutes for all of the malls. Anyway, I have no opinion on MallStatus vs. BuildingStatus at the moment, and trust you pretty much implicitly on matters such as these, so I'll leave it entirely in your very capable and scaly hands. Aichon 10:35, 24 May 2010 (BST)

Thoughts On Suburb Style

Because of the width of the page, might it be better to have the trp numbers in a single line, instead of 2 rows. Just looks unbalanced, and you've got spare width. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:25, 24 May 2010 (BST)

Having them on a single line looks even worse, though you're right that it could fill more width in general. However, I'm trying not to have it fail horribly on low-ish resolutions. I can swap up the layout. But I can't satisfy the requirements of using space effectively on high-res, appearing decent on low-res, and degrading in the order I want all at once (might not even be possible with 4 "parts" to consider, banner, sidebar, contents and text). I might just be missing something though. Anyway the current layout shuns the high res a bit, but not too badly I feel. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:20, 3 June 2010 (BST)

you are the only other cool category guy

Department of Emergency Management/Needle Blitz is on the uncategorised list, but "appears" to have Department of Emergency Management category. But when going to edit, can't find a category link anywhere on page, and when I go to "edit" the category tag isn't visible down the bottom of the page.

From my experience I assume it's from the DEM NAV template, but even when a category is on a page via a template, I was always sure it would still show up at the bottom of the recieving page's edit page anyway. This is me being lazy and drunk, I only checked the page linked above and no template so it could be as easy as looking at the other pages I've mentioned, but in my lazy and drunken rampage I've decided to just contact my only other categorise-man-in-arms. Any answers/ideas?

Lots of awesome homophobic respecting love, --

13:58, 26 May 2010 (BST)

It will show up on the edit page after a preview. Though not until you do that. Anyway, that's besides the point. The page is categorised, but the wiki failed to update this fact in the uncategorised list. A null edit fixed it.
In case you don't know: a null edit is one that doesn't affect the page, like extra newlines at the end (the wiki gets rid of the extra ones, so nothing changes) so saving doesn't cause anything to be logged, but it will update things and so that'll fix a broken list. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:28, 27 May 2010 (BST)
You sir, are a genius.--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:41, 27 May 2010 (BST)
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I fucking love you man ;D -- 01:11, 28 May 2010 (BST)

My Sig

Why is it breaking stuff, in what way is it breaking stuff, and how can I prevent it from breaking stuff?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:09, 3 June 2010 (BST)

You happened to use "^^^" which I had chosen as a string of characters that I didn't think anybody in their right mind would use. Not your fault really. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:15, 3 June 2010 (BST)
Ah. You were most likely correct then. I won't bother changing it because I'll probably end up changing it to whatever the new code is. Sorry about the problems.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:16, 3 June 2010 (BST)
Really not your fault. I'll just have to get more creative :P -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:18, 3 June 2010 (BST)

Template:HollomstownNews, and thoughts on the TRP List

In fact, I'm not the one who usually archive news. That would be Yonnua Koponen. I happened to be the one who standardized the 2007 news that was copied from Template:HollomstownNews, however.

So, I guess you want to remove the template, and the accompanying Template:RecentNewsPost, correct? Seeing how I'm not from Hollomstown, and not the one who edit/use it, I don't want to touch it myself. But if you want to remove it for redundancy, I've already made a copy of both template at my own sandbox.

By the way. I was thinking about commenting on your new Template:TRP List since the day you changed it, but never had the time. Now is the right time.

  • First, I don't miss Fire Stations that much. The fact that they aren't real TRPs help too. So I think it's the correct decision to remove it. And the new color layout isn't bad, either.
  • However, I feel the same way as Rosslessness above me, the template itself is too wide, and cause page layout problem on smaller screens. The old template never has this problem, since it was only 400px wide. So I suggest resizing it back, such as this:

NecroTech Facilities

{{{NTs}}}

Hospitals

{{{Hospitals}}}

Police Departments

{{{PDs}}}

Factories

{{{Factories}}}

Auto Repair Shops

{{{ARSs}}}

Malls

{{{Malls}}}

Bulletin Boards

{{{Boards}}}

Revive Points

{{{RPs}}}

Building Status Key: Unknown

Safe Rebuilding Under Attack Under Siege
Ruined In Zombie Hands Pinata

I also add the "Pinata" designation with black color, per Template:StatusMap pinata. What do you think?
  • This might be too finicky, but buildings coordinates are inconsistent. Mall coordinates use square brackets [x,y] while other buildings use parentheses (x,y). Template:Locationblock also uses square brackets, which I believe is the correct one, since the in-game GPS uses this style. The problem lies in Template:BuildingStatus, which is beyond my ability to fix.
Of course, as I said, this inconsistency is very finicky. So, if you have some more important things to take care of, please just ignore it. Not many people are going to care about it, I believe. -- Kittithaj 23:55, 3 June 2010 (BST)
Ross was referring to something else, but yeah it could be shaved down. The legend forces it to be 404px at the moment (default font size, anyway), but it'll get wider for places with long names to keep them on one line. So really I think the problem is the long police department names. I could allow it to wrap (though that looks worse) or come up with some clunky fix to shorten names to "Whatever Place PD" which would help a lot.
The co-ords thing is a bit all over the place, but consistent in its own way. Danger reports use (), while location blocks use []. Then multi-block danger reports use [] to indicate multi block structures or something. Converting to () for everything is probably less than 50 edits, but converting to [] is a few thousand. So, I agree in principle, but too much effort. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:09, 4 June 2010 (BST)

EMR Bot

Just saw this edit and didn't quite think it quite made sense, so I wanted to point it out. Near as I can tell, the bot was working on an EMR from May 25th, which was very out of date, since the suburb's status was updated on May 31 by me as a result of the horde ruining a good chunk of Grigg Heights and lingering in the area for the better part of a week (they started in on Grigg around the 29th or 30th, I believe).

Normally I wouldn't blink twice at EMRBot using a week-old report, since that's almost always more recent than any other updates, but in this case, we have a status update that was clearly more recent in a region that was very subject to change due to the horde's presence, so the fact that it used old information stood out a bit to me. As for why I'm mentioning it...I guess I'm curious what sort of safeguards are in place for stuff like this, but, honestly, EMRBot does so much more good than harm that I can hardly be upset at it over minor things like this. Aichon 01:46, 4 June 2010 (BST)

The safeguard is grabbing the recent news section, if there's any news, I'll have it skip over the suburb danger update. If there's no news, I figure an estimate based on an EMR is better than some random old status. You're always welcome to revert the bot, it can't beat a human scout, and in future consider posting a news update if the suburb goes from green to red, eh? -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 16:49, 4 June 2010 (BST)
That makes a LOT of sense doing it that way. I hadn't even considered that it'd be almost impossible to grab dates from the danger updates themselves. As for posting news, well, it may have been a big deal for the inhabitants of the suburb, but for me it was Tuesday. ;)
As an aside, that last comment of mine came out way too accusatory sounding. That was not the tone I intended to take with it, so I just wanted to clarify that I wanted to provide detail so that you'd know what I was talking about, but that I was asking purely because I was curious about the thought behind it, since I knew you would have covered most of these bases. That last sentence of my previous comment had been meant to kinda get that across, but, in retrospect, it reads as if I was disappointed with the bot, which is not how I wanted it to sound at all. So, I wanted to apologize if it came across that way, since I didn't mean to say anything of that sort. Aichon 17:01, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Didn't sound accusatory at all. But then you had to go and link TV Tropes, and now I can sense I'm about to lose another 5 hours of my life to the internets greatest timesink. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:20, 4 June 2010 (BST)

Hello Mr. Locations

This was well before your time I believe, but what's the go with Category:Map Developement, particularly Locations List do you think? Was it just an index page before the actual location block pages were made? Would the wiki suffer from deletion of these pages? --

12:29, 7 June 2010 (BST)

No strong feelings either way, the index is both kind of useful and kind of pointless. Meh. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:49, 7 June 2010 (BST)

Template:Linkbox

I think it needs a fill colour behind the two sections, if possible. The bevelled corners of the inner cells seem a bit off when there's a border around the whole lot. :( Nothing to be done! 14:40, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Also I could be wrong but I think this is the first time I've used your talk page. Weird. Nothing to be done! 14:42, 11 June 2010 (BST)
There is a fill colour, it's called white. :P
Seriously though, how do they look off? The template is basically a direct copy-paste of what was on Template:Player Information and company, so it's hardly new, do the old revisions of those templates also look off? -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 14:47, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Good. You don't really need the rounded edges, but we all want some style around here. The pink/red combo is a terrible example though. really burns the eyes :) --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:52, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Aha, on a closer look that original template is the same, I had just failed to notice the white against the very pale blue colour. I like the rounded edges but perhaps keeping a fill colour the same as the lower box's colour so that the upper box is the bevelled one, and stands out more. I dunno, just opinions. Nothing to be done! 14:56, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Amazing how a template that changes nothing gets so much attention whilst I do all sorts flies under the radar despite RC spam. Anyway yeah I changed it so the background fills the whole area, it help methinks. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 15:08, 11 June 2010 (BST)
Yeah, that's pretty. Don't mind me, I'm stalking from wiki to wiki right now gnoming and I saw you'd created that. It was the colours that pointed it out, more noticable than the paler older one. Nothing to be done! 15:44, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Roftwood Barricade Plan

what is wrong with using a color-coded system to denote ruins, I ask? I'm new to the barricade plan circuit myself. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:50, 12 June 2010 (BST)

Color denotes building type, not building status, with the idea being that each piece of data (e.g border, color, text, etc.) represents an orthogonal piece of information (e.g. barricade level, building type, special features, etc.). While the Ruin color is okay for personal maps (e.g. 404 uses it, and BB3 used it for awhile), it shouldn't be used in that manner for general barricade plans since it's inconsistent with other design features of the template.
Basically, it's bad since a building can be both a, say, Hospital and a ruin, but you'd lose the fact that it's a Hospital if it was colored as a ruin. The better way to do it is to introduce a new way of representing ruins that doesn't force you to sacrifice other information, which Maverick and I have already been working on ideas for. Until then though, text is the best way. Aichon 22:22, 12 June 2010 (BST)
I figured that the color could represent buildings that were generic and ruined (because what other type would be ruined on purpose?), but you guys know better than I in this matter. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:05, 13 June 2010 (BST)
Can a table cell contain two borders? If so, a second, inner, border could be added to ruined blocks to denote this. Nothing to be done! 00:18, 13 June 2010 (BST)
I approve of this, but doubt its existence. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:30, 13 June 2010 (BST)

As above, additionally it's not in the legend, so nobody will know what's it's about. You'd had to add at least generic ruin and NT ruin. While you can technically have ruin with cades, since that would never occur on a BP, I guess you could add ruin into the cade level somehow. EHB->VSB->None->Ruin. With colours, I guess adding generic ruin and NT ruin to the legend (since they exist) would also cover it. A second border is possible if we put a cell within a cell, but that would need a major re-work.

Until somebody has a good method we can all agree on, the text is best since you can add what you like. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 01:37, 13 June 2010 (BST)

I like the cade level idea. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:42, 13 June 2010 (BST)
I've actually had one of my buddies who's done graduate-level work in user interface design and computer human interaction (and who now does that stuff for a living) take a look at it and have explained the issues to her. We spent an hour or two yesterday trying to come up with a better way to represent ruins, since there are plenty of easy ways to do it, but no obviously great ways. Honestly, the main issue I see is that ruins are very rarely a planned part of barricade plans (meaning that text is a sufficient way to denote them for now, or else just unbarricaded, which I believe was the original idea behind the unbarricaded status), but they are common on status maps of the suburb, which the barricade plan template has been commandeered into use as. For a status map, people need to be able to see at a glance which buildings are ruined or not, so something like changing the color makes sense at a glance, but is definitely the easy way out and isn't the best way since we lose other useful information.
If we want to kill two birds with one stone, it'd be nice if we could address the status map issue, since handling it would handle the barricade plan issue simultaneously. As Rooster said though, until a better solution presents itself, using text is the best way to do it for now. Aichon 13:44, 13 June 2010 (BST)
Well I'd say text is the best way to handle it for "official" plans. I don't mind how people extended their own plans really. The extra legend seems pretty good to me, since you want to draw attention to the ruins and whatnot. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:32, 13 June 2010 (BST)
I feel silly for not catching this conversation sooner. Obviously for the "official" barricade plans, the unbarricaded blocks are very easily interpreted as ruins--because buildings without barricades quickly become ruins. As Aichon pointed out, the ruin status of a block only comes about for personal-use BPs where the users are just as interested in the current(ish) (non)ruin status of a building as they are in the type of building and barricade level. Since we didn't have these purposes in mind when the new BP template was designed, I created the Lit, Ruin, and NTRuin colors for use with 404. They can just as easily be deleted when a good alternative is found for personal-use status maps. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 07:40, 16 June 2010 (BST)

As you were wondering

Roostered.PNG

It does have a billboard. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:33, 15 June 2010 (BST)

How bizarre. Thanks for scouting that. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 16:56, 16 June 2010 (BST)
Why is it bizarre? - Poodle of Doom 05:05, 2 August 2010 (BST)

more categories stuff

I noticed the template categories Category:A Groups, Category:B Groups and so on. Are these really necessary? Do you by any chance have a plan for these or am I right by you to recategorise them all into categories like Templates and delete the empty categories? --

13:00, 23 July 2010 (BST)

More Magic Please

The problem is outlined here, and here. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to try to help answer them. Please help me figure it out. - Poodle of Doom 05:00, 2 August 2010 (BST)

Bots down?

I was looking around today and noticed that your bots haven't reported since June 19. Is this intentional? They all seemed very helpful! :) --Hyper Anthony 04:57, 5 August 2010 (BST)

They're each started manually by Rooster every time he runs them, and since June 17th was his last contribution, it's probably safe to say he hasn't been around much lately. Aichon 06:20, 5 August 2010 (BST)
I wonder what the odds are for Rooster turning over the keys to his bots. Whadda ya say, ol' buddy ol' pal <:)? ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 06:31, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. --Hyper Anthony 23:26, 5 August 2010 (BST)

I don't have any major qualms turning over the program or even the source. It's a mess from the fact I have no idea what I'm doing, but it mostly works. If anybody actually does want to adopt it, I could try and upload it somewhere when I have a moment. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:00, 10 August 2010 (BST)

VB - Cornholioo perma vote

I know you don't really do VB, but could you come weigh in on this? No real rush but it would be appreciated. -- Cheese 21:16, 6 August 2010 (BST)