UDWiki talk:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2010 03

March 2010

User:Cornholioo (3)

I'd like to nominate him for uploading a Swasttika, which according to the last vandal submition regarding him could constitute something hateful/ethically or racially hateful under the following quote from Aichon: "You agree not to use the service to: Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is...hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable." -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 06:01, 28 March 2010 (BST)

While I in no way shape or form defend what he uploaded, bear in mind a swastika is an old Hindu symbol adopted by the Nazi's. While distasteful it pushes the bounds of what will and will not be allowed on the wiki. The Nazi Swastika yes I would say remove it, but please for the record do not classify it as all swastika's. -- 

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06:52, 28 March 2010 (BST)

The swastika is not illegal in the UK (the ultimate legal arbiter of matters on this wiki) and neither has it been against policy to ever upload a symbol of the Third Reich, see the Nazi Party of Malton. Firstly, learn to fucking format your vandal cases so I don't have to. Secondly, stop trying to fucking force a user off the wiki using the admin pages. Either man up and do it yourselves or let it go. If you lot continue to use drama badly, I will demonstrate how to use it correctly. On you. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 10:44, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Piss off.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 15:47, 28 March 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo (2)

One thing I'd like to say. Cornholio mentioned being Dutch. Holocaust denial is considered illegal by Dutch law, this is a simple fact. Of course, I'm pretty sure this site lends itself to the British law so it doesn't really matter. Just saying though, some countries, mostly European ones, will prosecute people denying it. And rightfully so. --Thadeous Oakley 19:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Wrong. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry man, but I know my own law better than you. Wikipedia is nice for making school projects, but it's not 100% accurate.

1995, the State vs Siegfried Verbeke. The High Court of the Netherlands decides holocaust denial falls under article 137c and 137d (which you linked too). Though I may have expressed myself a bit vague by saying law since it's not specifically mentioned. Holocaust denial will get you a fine/jail time in the Netherlands by precedent until the High Court decides otherwise though. It's illegal. --Thadeous Oakley 19:58, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Court opinion changes, see the basis of the reduction and subsequent repealing of blasphemy laws world wide (at least in the civilised countries). The act of denial isn't against the law, it's just at the moment courts consider it to be covered by legislation, that'll change. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:07, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for repeating what I said earlier. I'm glad we agree with each other. --Thadeous Oakley 21:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me, but you mentioned DORIS. Pluto is still a planet and your denial of the truth is offensive. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 23:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it is not fair to say i am 'bitchslapping' someone i don't like on the admin pages. I voiced my frustration, and was advices to file for vandal/banning. I did not yet see if people agree anti-Semitism is a form of racism, but I assume they do.

Racism is a reason for banning a person, for several reasons. The main one is that a racist slur is a dangerous kind of false accusation. A false accusation, as everyone knows, is very problematic since a victim has no good way to defend itself, while the stigma of the accusation stays. To clarify: 'the Jew' does not exist, therefore, Jewish people have no way to defend themselves, but the accusations linger on in peoples subconscious.

Cornholioo talks about Jews as beings with intrinsic negative attributes. He makes them look treacherous, deceiving and generally dangerous. Secondly, cornholioo sees a Jewish conspiracy ruling the world. For example his claim that Jews invented racism as a way to silence opposition, reveals that he sees a Jewish plot controlling society. This is a key element in most anti-semite ideologies. His holocaust denial is another example of this, where he apparently claims that Jews have made up the holocaust, and have (through some masterly ingenious conspiracy) convinced the rest of the world it happened. All these elements make cornhoolio out to be a racist. The amount of incidents has exceeded 4 many times over.

--zyckde 16:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I talk about Americans with intrinsic negative attributes. I make them look stupid, fat and hypocritical. Secondly I see a Fundamentalist Christian movement influencing the American government to breach human rights and oppress citizens. Should I be banned? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you think nationality and political believe are qualified by anyone as "race"? I sure hope not.

Anyway, erroneous as it is, you seem to thinks that cornhoolio's anti-Semitism in not a form of racism. That was the last straw of my argument, too bad. It was worth the try. --zyckde 19:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of who thinks what about racism, there's a process to follow instead if shouting "BAN" from the off. If and when Cornholioo is given enough warnings to warrant it, there is always a permaban vote at the end of this process. 19:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I think the offenses warrant a ban, so I say so. I greatly appreciate that those who have the burden/privilege to decide on these matters follow the process from there on. I hope you too will look at the facts too. The incidents of what (in my view) is racism, have been piling up, and no crat/sys/arb has undertaken any official action on it. So I did. --zyckde 20:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." While I can understand what you are trying to prevent here the fact of the matter is that he will be allowed to continue to post until he makes it a problem, while yes some of his typing could be considered anti-semitical (I don't even think thats a word but whatever) until there is something clearly showing it like in the case of w00t where he clearly used a racial slur, then Cornholio will be allowed to continue posting, and your insistent spamming of A/A and A/VB with want to ban him (mostly A/VB hes been spamming A/A) will only end up getting people on your case about posting these things over and over. The 'Crats and sysop are well aware of what he is doing, and are keeping an eye on him but until he does something that justifies a perma-vote, just stop spamming these pages. -- 

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20:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Martino

Am I guilty of exposing how disgusting nazism is? I guess. I went to far? Maybe. But just notice that it was never meant to be disrespectful against the victims in the image. It was just supposed to be shocking, I'm tired of people trying to erase what nazism was. (and I put that on LG page because she killed an anti-fascist and thus she started to actively helping the nazis). Now it's up to you. --Martino 16:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

You're right, Nazism is disgusting and one of the most terrible things humanity has ever brought. However, I don't see why the urbandead wiki is the right place for nazi condemning, this place is for all things urbandead related not a platform for historical discussion. Also, while we're at it, are these images going to be deleted or not? I wouldn't call the shock-value good-faith...--Thadeous Oakley 16:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

They'll get deleted one way or the other, either as a vandal edit or as a result of the Deletions case open on them right now. —Aichon— 16:53, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

But what is more more shocking: these images or the fact that there are groups in UD actively supporting this kind of racism and genocide? --Martino 16:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

You seem to be missing that point. Whether one is more shocking than the other is not important when the question is whether what you did was acceptable or not. —Aichon— 18:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

These images. Honestly, the internet is full of all kind of idiots and disgusting people like neonazi's, this really isn't much of a surprise. --Thadeous Oakley 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Also as Aichon. --Thadeous Oakley 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say I was surprised, I said that the real disgusting thing is that there are actually people who support the actions portrayed in the pics and that seems to be acceptable. I illustrate what these neo-nazi groups mean and suddenly I'm the bad guy. Maybe I went a little bit over the edge, but come on... --Martino 18:20, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The point isn't that nazism is right or wrong, it's that those images are overly graphic, and the exact same statement could have been made with an external link to Wikipedia or a google image search. We don't need to host images like this for you to make this point, but you're free to make the point itself. 20:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

You said almost the exact same thing I did in a previous version of my comment. The images are by far more shocking. There will always be idiots spewing nonsense, so that is hardly shocking. What is shocking are pictures of when the idiots actually get their way. —Aichon— 21:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Devorac

Hello,

A user called Devorac has been causing vandalism to the Battle of Krinks page. He has been re-adding subjective texts after I've removed them. See also this link: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&diff=1677678&oldid=1677674 Could you please give him a warning or something?

Thanks in advance,

cornholioo.

User:Misanthropy

Racism against a user. I expect more from sysops. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 22:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

If your really going to walk down that line I have numerous anti-gay remarks by you. Very distasteful is what they could be referred as, the lot of them having to do with very negative things about homosexuals. Just a thought there sonny ;) -- 

•   Timmah!  

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00:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Precedent has been set for racism, not homophobia. If a sysop wants to slap a warning on me for homophobia then that's fine. However, this is about Misanthropy, a sysop, breaking his own rule on racism. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 03:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Well then to be technical Woot's saying compared to Misanthropy's. One is racist, another is a drink. If you needed further references here you go Woot's and Misanthropy's. While the comment is in bad taste, its technically not racist. -- 

•   Timmah!  

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04:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. And when I call people fags I'm calling them cigarettes. Get your head out of your ass. "Dirty Mexican" is a derogatory phrase on par with calling someone of Italian descent a "wop" or of Chinese descent a "zipperhead". It's still racism. And if people want to make the argument still that its a drink then I will fight Woot's one month ban since this drink exists. So does this one and this one. Making racism nonexistent since a drink of the same name exists. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 07:41, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, Not Vandalism. The word 'nigger' has one purpose and one purpose only: to offend. even as a joke, it has 0 joke value. This was a simple joke and before you cry elitism (which I know will come Sonny) I've stood by this time and time before with J3D, even, in back-to-back cases. --

 

 

 

 

08:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I never said either were humorous. Misanthropy said an offensive comment towards Mexicans. If you call a Mexican a "dirty Mexican" he will be offended as it is racism. I am warning right now, if you do not keep precedent I will miscontribute you. Also, you're a buttfucking faggot. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 09:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

If I was a Mexican lesbian, and had just finished a bout of mud wrestling, I would indeed be dirty. Not Vandalism --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

But Woot is none of these. Misanthropy said this knowing that Woot lives in Central America. And look what I found, DDR DEFENDING the use of the word "nigger" as long as it isn't used as spam. Right here. In fact in the Archive of his talk page J3D also said it here. Funny. It's fine for it to be on DDR's talk page, but if Woot says it on his own talk page it isn't. This isn't elitist, this is pure "I'm a faggot with power so I'm going to get away with it as long as my faggot friends are also in power." Fuck your shit, he racially insulted a user on this wiki. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 09:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

That was before it was found to be against the TOU. Otherwise, listen to ross. --

 

 

 

 

09:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Ouch, a day and no reply? So you were taken aback by the fact there was an actual reason this wiki became strict on the rule? Oh no Sonny, where to now? There must be only one more way to turn to have this fixed up: To A/M! --

 

 

 

 

22:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Double standards are cool. --Goofy McCoy ^{mfd HK-47 talk} 09:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Racism is still racism. If I called someone a dirty mexican, or other similar derogative, I'd expect to be ruled as a vandal, because IT'S CLEARLY A FUCKING RACIST COMMENT DEAR GOD WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE? Just because Rak, Jed and Sonny do it(And get in trouble for it) does NOT mean it's okay.--Big Cat 02:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't close this just yet, anybody, till the a/m cases are up, methinks. --

 

 

 

 

11:30, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

You could just change your votes and the cases will be dropped. SA already made it clear that this was racism. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

or not. Because I'm pretty sure me and DDR thinks it isn't vandalism. I think that's clear. a position we haven't changed regardless of the misconduct cases. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm quite good thanks? I'm not the one in any sort of hurry to have this closed. --

 

 

 

 

12:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Racist. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism: whether or not his comment was racist or offensive is irrelevant here - an off-the-cuff remark like that simply isn't vandalism. Chief Seagull talk 14:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Only sysops can rule on vandal banning cases.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 14:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

You're an idiot. Vandalism is any edit in bad faith. Racism is bad faith. User:Woot was already banned for a month for a racist comment. Go back to your fucking hugbox. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 18:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Look guys, being that we're from a pretty diverse set of cultures, there is going to be confusion with some phrases. It was still a rather racist comment in some countries and areas though. So how about this, it was Vandalism, but due to the nature of languages, it will end up as a soft warning. This time. Any future racist comments will be thoroughly discussed, and punished if necessary. The practice of calling people faggots and retards is still acceptable though. Does this sound appealing to the other sysops?--Big Cat 23:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

So, racism against Latinos isn't considered racism. Nice job guys. Now you get to establish precedents on a case-by-case basis to determine which ethnicities/groups are okay to slur and which ones aren't. Maybe one of you geniuses who ruled "not vandalism" can whip up a chart or something for the rest of us to follow.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

You've supported aussies being racist against other ethnicities before, why stop now? --

 

 

 

 

12:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Say what? When have I ever supported aussies being racist? Are you confusing me with someone else?--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

He's referring to you voting keep when SCC was proposed for deletion.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 14:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I think you're probably right, which is absurd. I'll defer to the many overwhelming and well-reasoned opinions expressed on the discussion page, rather than reiterate the full argument here. However a relevant quote comes from boxy: "Links to racism have nothing to do with why I put this up for deletion." The deletion vote was never about racism, it was about a wiki-feud between DDR and Jed, and I don't see how a "keep" can be construed as support for aussie racism.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 16:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Saromu (2)

For spamming up A/M with silly little cases simply because we voted Not Vandalism on a case he brought. Just making frivolous misconduct cases and arguing on them till the death, just to cause drama. --

 

 

 

 

22:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

You think I'm being silly? Obviously you do not care about rules. The Guidelines of this wiki state that Sysops are above wiki rules and are held to the same standard, the only exception being Kevan. If you want that to change then write a nice little letter to Kevan asking him to make you as special as he is. Until then, fuck off and stop trying to elevate yourself above wiki rules. You blatantly abused your sysop position to discriminate against one user for living in Central America and bail out a fellow sysop. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 22:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Are you kidding? I didn't know he was from central america and I gave less of a shit than Misanthropy. --

 

 

 

 

23:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and we know you are less than capable of being serious at the best of times. --

 

 

 

 

23:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a sysop. Not my job to take what I do seriously. If you don't like it, quit. Nothing of value will be lost. And Misanthropy knows that Woot is from Central America. Thinking of reversing your not vandalism now? --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 23:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually the only thing I've learnt from this whole debacle is this Central American thing. 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh also vandalism. May as well. 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

You are voting Vandalism because he made an A/M case? So, you are basically saying that it is bad faith to try to hold the sysops accountable and in this case, object to racism? Congratulations, you are the worst Sysop ever. And I know a thing about bad sysops.-- #99 ^DCC 23:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I'm gonna stop buying the paper, this is far more entertaining. 23:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

3 cases isn't properly spamming A/M, Iscariot's far better at it. If Sonny isn't happy with a ruling let him challenge it. Not Vandalism. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

That's the thing. It isn't ruled on. Only two sysops have voted and the case isn't closed. He's jumping the gun in massive proportions just to have his way. --

 

 

 

 

03:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, this is new. So, the actions of one or two sysops don't matter if the others over ride it? So you could ban users and as long as the other ops vote against it or correct it it's not misconduct on your part. I see...-- #99 ^DCC 23:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism Oh, and ddr? It's not afraid to come here so much as I really hate the clique, best-bud bullshit just about every single op is pulling lately. Oh, and the fact that you're being a power-badging cunt still.--Big Cat 02:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

You know, if you stopped playing 'the little guy' act you'd probably find that your perspective of how I behave is actually nothing of what you say. You'd probably find the same conclusion if you actually spend time here other than when drama strikes. --

 

 

 

 

08:06, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah fuck I can't be arsed with dealing with your e-peen spewing. Wrote a metric fuck-tonne with links, proof, fancy words, the works! Then remembered you and your tendency to ignore everything and go ego-defensive one-liner mode. So a shortened version:

A) YOU begged me to come back last November, and since then multiple users have come to me and asked me to come back and check in, whether it was to review cases, projects, fix the shit the ops team is causing in general, or just come back and help out.

B) You consistently act like a cunt whenever my name comes up or I do ANYTHING but follow your little flute (and quite a few times, you've used that little badge of power against me and other users in the process), or when anyone even slightly pisses you off. Look at the Nezhaulcoyotl II case. Look at the irc logs of you saying how you were going to demote CB the moment his A/RE came, even if the community disagreed. Look at you sharing his private info with the wiki. Look at how you treated EVERYONE involved with the text links not counting as used for images discussion on your talk page (WHAT THE HELL?!?!? is the header you're looking for). Look at you being a bully towards me defending my own case. Not to mention you being a dick in general. Again. That's not even all of the list I made. 'Tis but a small sample. I could get out the irc logs, msn logs, google wave logs (unless those got deleted from inactivity. I haven't been on wave since before new years), hell, even myspace had some examples of you plotting and being a dick towards users on here.

What ddr's reaction will probably amount to: no uve changed sa im still the same you just cant accept the fact that things have changed here with you but not in the way you want and youre wrong about me im not a dick you just think i am cuz u changed

In short: DDR, please piss off and retire already.--Big Cat 11:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I begged you to come back and found a user who had no interest in actually helping out the community (to the point of making the deliberate wrong rulings in A/VB cases "for the lulz", something only hagnat had done before you) and as such I argued against your behaviour. Talking about apparent bullying and vendettas, you've found yourself ruling the opposite to me (and actualy citing my ruling as either an influence, a critiquing point or the actual reason you ruled against it) since new years now I believe... And, oh yes, in relation to Cyberbob, I believe (Want the logs too?) it was you who initiated the idea that if you made it into crat position by the time Bob was there you would tinker with the idea of demoting him regardless of popular opinion. I was happy to demote Bob if the situation asked the task and the choice was in my hands rather than both me and boxy's, but it never came to that so I happily kept him. Regardless, it is you who has become more of what you hated (come once a month, have a love-in with the drama and leave) than I have, so don't come crying to me.

And yes, I will happily resign when my term ends, and before you materialise any thoughts of accomplishment or grandeur it has nothing to do with you or the annoying mosquitoes you've become so much like. --

 

 

 

 

11:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

But meh, whatever. After looking at your recent string of edits on RC it looks like you didn't approve of me saying you were afraid of coming here. Obviously I didn't mean it in a literal sense and my displeasure, whilst directed at you, was more of an umbrella hatred towards being one of the only 3 active ops (now CB has gone) on udwiki. Look at A/M for fucks sake, the cases can't physically be ruled on at this current state. It's a joke. I just want more ops who take the job seriously. And that is where I first had my problems with you recently. --

 

 

 

 

11:54, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'd love the logs, if the offer is still on the table. Talk page or email, whatever's easier. Cyberbob  Talk  14:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Apparently you drink too much DDR? Because now, it looks like you're conveniently forgetting the MSN and IRC conversations where you've said these, and it looks like you're pretty much going "no u", without the usual insults. It's more polite, but the fake sophistication isn't needed.

It was right before I came back, because you and CB were usually "butting heads in A/VB, waiting for boxy to come and rule and show who was right". Remember that? His behavior "degraded" to where he was the "low point on the scale of being an 'op". His degradation was while I was gone, so I had no idea what was going on until you came to me (by the way, I took the liberty of making your quotes a bit more coherent. You know how it can be in chats, what with us improperly spelling and not caring about basic grammar. Hope you don't mind :3) and asked me to come back because everyone else wasn't doing shit and you were tired of the 1v1 matches the place was turning into.

Two cases where I made the "wrong ruling", which is hilarious because you've made the wrong ruling your self on some cases since I came back. Oh, wait, rulings are based on what a sysop thinks aren't they? Oh shit, that would mean that there is no inherent right or wrong ruling, especially combined with the rule that p much says we can do what we want! D: But yeah, two cases, in both said user was boned no matter what I ruled. "He's boned in this case anyway right? It's not like it matters. :) -- SA 19:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)". Since then I haven't done anything like that, and every case that wasn't entirely serious was Red Rum and I having fun, and we didn't ask anyone to bring it here.

I told you from the start I was trying to stay away from here, and that I didn't want to come back, yet you asked me to come back anyway, due to lack of sysops. I had a little fun here and there when my fun would not overly affect anything.

I ruled on ONE case using you as my reasoning, because at one point, you decided that arbies rulings can't really do shit and we should let users go forum shopping, mind you, the case I was using as a reference was this one. And so what? We're system operators of a wiki. We're SUPPOSED to use each other as references, and use each others past rulings as precedence. So the whole "no ur the one being vendetta-y" is kind of bullshit. Please try another tactic.

"Regardless, it is you who has become more of what you hated (come once a month, have a love-in with the drama and leave) than I have, so don't come crying to me."

That has fuck all to do with this situation, as I never called you out on any counts of inactivity. I just love how you're fishing for things to make me look bad. Like the little "And yes, I will happily resign when my term ends, and before you materialise any thoughts of accomplishment or grandeur it has nothing to do with you or the annoying mosquitoes you've become so much like. --DanceDanceRevolution (ask/talk) 11:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC) " comment. Pretty sure it was established awhile ago that you were leaving because you wanted a break, not because of us little mosquitoes biting the shit out of you. But again, making me out to be oh so bad, amirite?

*Prepares for DDR and his tendency to fight for the last word*

Oh, and CB? I'll have the logs for you as soon as I can. I forgot that I'm on a new pc (bought so I can splurge on DoW2 on ultra and play Shattered Horizon at max. 'Tis wonderful! :B) and gave the old one to my little brother. So I gotsa to get the hard drive contents to send them to you. If I don't have them by the end of the week, I've probably just forgotten and need a nudge. :| --Big Cat 19:16, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

inb4angerywallsotext--Big Cat 19:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Jesus F*cking Christ, SA...--Thadeous Oakley 20:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Oooookay. I read less than 10% of that (skipping through and laughing at how much of it is absurd) and I have no intention of attempting a reply. Everything about Bob is true. I spend most of my time on this wiki hating what he does, I didn't think that was so subtle, and if you ever thought what I say on MSN and IRC is as serious as what I say here then you're the deluded one, as you behave in the exact same manor. But I never lied about what you instigated too, and the fact that you had to look through a year of IRC and MSN logs proves you are taking this much too seriously. Fuck me, SA. If you actually spent this much effort doing work on the wiki I wouldn't have a problem with you :/

Either way, if you wanted me to admit I'm wrong, then you haven't got you're wish, but if you wanted me to leave the argument, you won, with the biggest wall of text since this doozey.

Now (this may be a little hard for you, right?) We have 3 misconduct cases. We have 6 A/VB cases. We have 8 items in A/SD. I have uni, and you're sitting in your arse drowning us in your tears. DO SOME FUCKING WORK --

 

 

 

 

21:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

You're in Uni? How's getting that degree in mental retardation working out for you? Man, I haven't seen someone believe he's so right when he's wrong since Grim. You don't feel the need to give a proper reply to SA, yet you continue to harass in a way that's so arrogant it's almost sick. But hey, why try to have an adult discussion when you can play Mister Big. Do everyone else a favor, and go in demotion early. --Thadeous Oakley 21:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Involved party say what? --

 

 

 

 

21:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to see those classes paid off. You almost had me convinced that you were bored mentally retarded and not chose to live that way. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 23:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

to the point of making the deliberate wrong rulings in A/VB cases "for the lulz", something only hagnat had done before you - now i know what was pulling me into udwiki... it wasnt simple boredom, but someone using my name in vain again. When did i ruled on a case wrongly for the lulz ? I used to take my job as a sysop really seriously, only acting for the lulz when no sysop action was involved or it was a clearly closed and ruled case. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 23:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm always surprised when DDR makes some reference to past events on the wiki how often he gets almost every detail wrong. J3D was the one that made decisions for the lulz that eventually led to his demoting over Check user abuse. Hagnut just made BAD decisions with a straight face. Why the fuck do you people keep DDR in power on here? -- #99 ^DCC 03:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Shit, I've been trying to get people to get rid of him for a long time. But this wiki is so fucked up there's no way to repair it. Promotions and demotions aren't votes so it means the same group of sysops get to keep themselves in power. It's one big Gay Train headed for Sodomy and Fellatio. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 04:29, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

J3D was never a sysop in my mind, I wasn't around when he was here and as such I don't refer to the shit he did very often. Hagnat used to rule for the lolz, and you're all retards if you can't remember (for example, hagnat even admits its joking and SA is even there to tell him off about it). Oh how times have changed. --

 

 

 

 

07:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I remembered, which is why I didn't defend hagnat when you made that comment. I don't think that makes everyone retarded, just not all of us comb through old logs. I guess we should stop taking this so serious, eh? 'Cause you know, apparently I'm looking through year old logs instead of the ones in the past 4 months for your new behavior, and 1 month for an old behavior comparison.

"Now (this may be a little hard for you, right?) We have 3 misconduct cases. We have 6 A/VB cases. We have 8 items in A/SD. I have uni, and you're sitting in your arse drowning us in your tears. DO SOME FUCKING WORK --DanceDanceRevolution (ask/talk) 21:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)"

If you'd been paying attention, I just solved one misconduct case, showed you circle jerking fuckstacks how it should be done when it comes to ruling on racism related cases, I have work, and then later this year, going back to uni myself to finish my degrees, oh and I'm trying to think of an entirely spectacular way to end all this bullshit on the admin page that's related to the racism cries. But yes, tell us some more about how you're life is so busy, you know?

And to top it off, there are 5 A/VB cases, as I see it now, three racism related ones, which I've been working on (oh, but that doesn't count does it, amirite?) and two that should have been done the moment Mis ruled on them, being as straight-forward as they were. And only one A/SD that I saw (because, you know, I'm kind of used to you and CB always getting to the SD and Ds before I have a chance, so I don't check that very often. Guess I have to now, right?).--Big Cat 10:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

And last, but not least "and if you ever thought what I say on MSN and IRC is as serious as what I say here", that right there should show you're full of shit. Of course what you say in private is supposed to be taken more serious then what you say in the open. You're not worried about the people you're talking about hearing you, so you can be truthful about how you feel. And with the number of people you have vehemently insulted via these mediums, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say you weren't lying.

But please "qq", as you would say, some more about how I don't do jack shit (at least when I do my job, I'm not being biased about it, right? I managed to get over that before I came back. Your turn now.), and how you "have no intention of attempting a reply." when you're still attempting them. And failing.--Big Cat 10:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah, you actually did the deeds I requested. I was wrong about you. Despite your frothing, I no longer have an issue with you at this point and am happy to see that I got through. --

 

 

 

 

11:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

And yes, I still absolutely disagree with about everything you said, but, meh. --

 

 

 

 

11:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

So can you just retire already? --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

You've waited 11+ months, I'm sure you can wait another 2 weeks. --

 

 

 

 

12:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I thought if I tried that whole "acting nice" thing I could get you to do it now. Well I guess acting nice doesn't do shit. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)