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===[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of Doom]] versus [[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DanceDanceRevolution]]===
===[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of Doom]] vs [[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DanceDanceRevolution]]===
Personally, I'm only here on a limited basis. I'm just trying to get by, and do my thing. I made a goof of some sort, and attempted to remedy it. I'd appreciate not being [[Speedy_Deletions#Image:The_Requiem.png|antagonized]]. I can tolerate some comments made in jest. However, I'd prefer that the provocation stop. I know that this will never be a reality, due to an inability to enforce any sort of mandate on such a thing. I am, however, seeking arbitration, as I doubt it will stop through my asking. I refuse to consent to it, and I am hoping something can be worked out via our mutual aggreement with an arbitrator. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 00:41, 24 September 2011 (BST)


I volunteer to arbitrate.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 00:56, 24 September 2011 (BST)
[[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Poodle of doom vs DanceDanceRevolution (2)|Under Consideration]].
:I'm not attempting to be difficult, or make this process in any way ineffctive, however I'd ask one simple thing. Could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 01:02, 24 September 2011 (BST)
::I'm curious, why does his IT BEGINS warrant harrasment in your opinion? Because from here it seems pretty harmless. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
:::It's a reference to the mass deletions that I set up on my way out the door the last time. DDR created a group with the same Acronym as mine at the time, and turned the redirect to the group into a disambugious page. Basically, I asked about this, and if I could still use the page, as there were minor differences between the acronym my group used, and his. Basically, it was EVIL for my group, and E.V.I.L for his. None the less, when I couldn't use it soley for my puposes, I decided to leave for a while and take some time of. In the mean time, I took the (over)500 pages of my group, and placed them up for speedy deletion, which is what they're playing at. That said, there's been [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Alexander_Dawkins/Asshat&oldid=1770199 some mocking] in the past. But I digress, I may or may not of earned the one I just referenced. I'm not exactly remembering how that one came about. None the less, on my way out, DDR was one of a few who I had a problem with. But at this point, I'm getting off topic. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 02:26, 24 September 2011 (BST)
::::Not really, it's about your guy's personal history then it's relevant.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:41, 25 September 2011 (BST)
 
::Bearing in mind how few arbitration cases there actually are, I have two with: [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Cornholioo_vs_Misanthropy|Corn v Mis]] and [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Zombie_Lord_vs_Bob_Boberton|ZL v Bobbobo]].--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 01:16, 24 September 2011 (BST)
:::With all due respect intended, I'd like to hold off on officially accepting, or denying you for the moment. I'd like to weigh in on other options for the time being. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 03:01, 24 September 2011 (BST)
::::I think I'm willing to accept you, and I'm not sure if DDR will be coming or not. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 04:59, 27 September 2011 (BST)
 
I have an even better idea! How about you get over it? -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  06:56, 24 September 2011 (BST)
:Uncalled for, and unconstructive. Great. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 06:58, 24 September 2011 (BST)
 
I'll do it. --[[User:Rosslessness|<sup>Hey Sweden!</sup>]]  07:06, 24 September 2011 (BST)
:I appreciate the offer, but I respectfully decline. Thanks for the offer. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 16:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
 
As I think that you both are schmucks, I consider myself perfectly neutral for these arbies. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 19:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
:As much as I'd like to decline, I'd like to ask you the same general question as I have Yonnua. Could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 04:10, 26 September 2011 (BST)
::Had offered to in some of the relatively recent ones, but wasn't picked. If recent arbitration is key to you, go to Karek, he has arbitrated the most recent Cobra case. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:11, 26 September 2011 (BST)
:::It's not that it's key, but I would like to pick someone I think I could level with, and who seems fair. Could you link to a couple that you offered to arbitrate in? -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 18:25, 26 September 2011 (BST)
::::[[:Category:Arbitration_Cases|RTFArchive]] --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:27, 26 September 2011 (BST)
:::::I respect your position in the cases I have reviewed, however, I wish to respectfully decline. I do appreciate your involvement. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 19:54, 26 September 2011 (BST)
 
I've caught myself up on the history of this and, actually, am willing to throw my hat in since it seems like I'm the most neutral either of you will get here. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:40, 25 September 2011 (BST)
:Same as above, could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 04:10, 26 September 2011 (BST)
::I'll have to say the same as spiderzed because I can't copy and paste with ease on the phone. Suffice it to say though I have plenty of experience with arbitration in addition to being a sysop for a very long time and dealing with disputes there that would have escalated significantly without my involvmement. My prolongued absence during your dispute with DDR and others guarantees I don't have preset notions about you. Ultimately it's up to you though. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:13, 27 September 2011 (BST)
:::I'm actually willing to accept you. On a related note, I've also expressed a willingness to accept Yonnua. Should both of you be willing to take this on, would you be willing to possibly work togethor on this, and coarbitrate? -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 00:28, 28 September 2011 (BST)
::::No.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 00:55, 28 September 2011 (BST)
:::::My first preference would be to Karek then. If DDR should decline, I will accept Yonnua. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 04:17, 28 September 2011 (BST)
 
I've [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Question|made sure]] DDR knew that this was happening, and he doesn't seem enthused with it, nor does he seem inclined to participate. I'm not exactly sure at this point [[User_talk:Poodle_of_doom#UDWiki:Administration.2FArbitration|what could be done]], or how to go about doing it. None the less, as I've expressed to DDR, I feel as if this is the best course of action regardless of outcome, and may diffuse some tension going forward. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 17:56, 26 September 2011 (BST)
:Do yourself a huge favor and drop the case. Yes, you can continue the case, even without DDR, by starting to accept an Arbiter. But don't. You have talked it out with him on his talk page, now move on. Simples.-- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  18:09, 26 September 2011 (BST)
::I don't believe it's that simple acutally. I honestly don't believe that this was anything shy of a jab at me. And if I don't do anything about it, it'll never quit. That said, if I simply select an arbitrator, it's on? -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 18:13, 26 September 2011 (BST)
 
I offer. You shall both lose this arbitration as I will use it as an excuse to amuse myself (and quite possibly only myself). It will not be something enjoyable for either party. But it '''will''' be fair. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:42, 26 September 2011 (BST)
:Like what? -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 23:23, 26 September 2011 (BST)
::It won't be ''like'' what. It'll be ''exactly'' what. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:01, 27 September 2011 (BST)
:::I simply decline. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 05:05, 27 September 2011 (BST)
::::It would need to be simple. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:10, 27 September 2011 (BST)
 
Mis was my only choice but Spoodle declined him. Since Karek is a jaded biased subbie bellend I'll go with Poodle's second choice Yonnua. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:45, 28 September 2011 (BST)
:Good enough for me. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig4}} 04:52, 28 September 2011 (BST)


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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.

Guidelines for Arbitration Requests

In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.

Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:

  • The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
  • The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
  • Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.

Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.

After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.

Current Arbitrators

For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.

The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator (even if not listed below) and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}

Also note that not all listed Arbitrators are active on the Wiki.

Volunteer Arbitrators in Alphabetical Order

Arbitration Cases Currently Under Consideration

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Use this header to create new arbitration cases. Once all sides have chosen an arbiter, move the case to a sub-page of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration and update its status in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.


Arbitration Cases in Progress

Poodle of Doom vs DanceDanceRevolution

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