UDWiki:Administration/Promotions

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This page is for users to request System Operator status. The act of user promotion is restricted to those with bureaucrat status, and as such users will need to request user promotion here. System Operators and Bureaucrats cannot assign promotions unless the request has gone through this page.

Guidelines for System Operator Requests

Users who wish to request System Operator status (and users who wish to nominate other users for System Operator status) should note that before they can be considered the following guidelines should be met by the candidate:

• Significant time within the community.

We define this as at least 6 months since the candidate's first edit.

Note: looking in a User's User contributions might give false results for this criterion, as the edit history is periodically purged on this wiki.

• Significant activity within the community.

We define this as at least 250 edits in the past six months under the candidate's name.

Note: looking in a User's User contributions might give false results for this criterion, as the edit history is periodically purged on this wiki.

• Prior interest in maintaining the community.

We define this as clear evidence that the candidate is already performing maintenance tasks and taking leadership roles on the wiki.

• Desire to become a System Operator.

We define this simply as indicating in the candidate's request their desire for the position (Note that if a person is nominated by another user, the candidate in question should note their acceptance of the nomination).

If a user is highly exemplary in one criterion, a certain amount of leeway may be given with the other criteria.

Once the candidate satisfies these guidelines, the user is then subject to a community discussion. All users are asked to comment on the candidate in question, ask questions of the candidate, and discuss the candidate's suitability for becoming a System Operator. This is not a vote. It is instead merely a request for comments from the wiki community. This will continue for two weeks to allow all users an opportunity to voice their opinion regarding a candidate's qualifications for promotion. After two weeks, the Bureaucrats are responsible for announcing their decision within a reasonably short period of time. Users may continue to add their thoughts until the Bureaucrats announce their decision. The current amount of System Operators running should not influence your decisions when voicing your opinion.

Once the two weeks are up, the Bureaucrats will review the community discussion and make a decision based upon it. The user will be notified of the status of their request, and will be promoted should it appear that the community is willing to accept them as a System Operator.

Example Application

Example User

• Example User (talk | contribs | UDWiki contribs | vndl data)

I've been around 3 months, and I've made to date 550 edits. As you can see [link here] and [link here], I've been in the leadership role attempting to create a new format for this page. I'd very much like to become a System Operator.

• Vouch - I am willing to vouch for this user. -- Voucher 03:41, 23 Jan 2006 (GMT)
• Against - Example User, I haven't seen any evidence of your work on the wiki. --Some user 19:01, 25 July 2006 (BST)
• Vouch - Example User is the most active guy here. --Another user 19:01, 25 July 2006 (BST)
• Abstain - I'm just not sure, but I don't want to say why for some reason. --Some other user 19:01, 25 July 2006 (BST)
• Question - I just want to know what you think about this subject? --Yet another user 21:26, 4 April 2013 (BST)

Candidates Being Discussed

User:DanceDanceRevolution

• DanceDanceRevolution (talk | contribs | UDWiki contribs | vndl data)

I'm DanceDanceRevolution and I would like to put myself forward for Sysop.

I've been on UDWiki for around 11 years, with my edit rate generally mirroring the activity levls of the wiki over that time. Between 2009 and 2011, I was a sysop. I spent 12 months of that time as a bureaucrat.

I would describe myself as someone who enjoys visiting UDWiki and being involved in several aspects of the community. I frequent protections and deletions, engage in problem solving with issues between groups and users, and also help the newer users of the wiki understand the rules and norms, particularly as they engage with the community on heightened levels. I also surf random articles periodically and try to clean them up, or fix things that are either outdated or overlooked. I have recently taken to writing quick content on random location stubs on the wiki when I have downtime (example). It's satisfying. I wish I had started years ago.

Why do I want to be a sysop, and why now? Well, I've been saying for years that we have a very solid sysop team. That hasn't changed. But I do feel like I have value to offer with the week-to-week workload of the sysop group. I have a good memory of administration precedents and I'm fairly efficient at finding them. I don't stray from difficult cases until they are done, and I treat every user fairly as long as they are using the wiki for it's primary purposes.

Why now? The sysop team is only set to get smaller in the next 6 months, and I think it's already as barebones as an admin team should be. I know I can help out, and I believe more people should be applying if they believe they are qualified and want the responsibility.

Please ask any questions, anything on your mind. I've been on this wiki a long time. If there's any questions you have regarding my prior work on the wiki or how I might respond to future hypotheticals, do ask.

Do be honest. All feedback will be considered strongly, regardless of the outcome of this bid.

Thank you for your time. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• Vouch partially for old time's sake (okay, maybe solely for that) but DDR was always a solid sysop and user back in the day, and if anything, the past ~10 years have probably mellowed him a little. I can see that he's still actively contributing, including in the boring admin things. Another sysop who can be trusted to process these promptly is never a bad thing. Not that it matters these days, but I trusted him back in the day to deal with the stupid drama this wiki used to throw up. Ultimately, extra good sysops harm nobody, and DDR was definitely good at being a sysop and good at doing tedious admin shit (anyone got a link to the UDwiki contribs graph that you made back in the day?). Linkthewindow  Talk  11:07, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

  I forgot I had made graphs, but indeed I did find them. They aren't well-designed, but they indicate I made ~12000 edits between February 2009 and November 2009. You pulled in 8500. What lives we must have had. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• against cccombo breaker! (By which I mean total vouch.) Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• Vouch An old hand and fair Sysop. --Dijon Sanders (talk) 22:50, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• Vouch We really need a sysop with a solid vandalism background - dirty cops always get the job done. That said DDR has proven to be both neutral and very informative. He challenges the other sysops which would make him a good asset to future decisions from the team. -- King AudioAttack (talk) 23:58, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• Are you willing to change your username to Aichon once he leaves? (However, someone may need to change their username to DanceDanceRevolution, and so forth...) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

  You've put me in an awkward position because he's the crat on this nomination so now the following is going to sound insincere, but the answer is I would, if I were anything like the sysop Aichon is, but we are different types of administrators and I don't think I could do Aichon's name justice. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 10:09, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

• Vouch There is no doubt that DDR knows the job, and that we should force any qualified users into the sys-op position when they are so foolish as to step into the shackles themselves. I just demand that he takes an oath at the pain of eternal damnation by the RNG God of Malton to never ever promote Thad again. -- Spiderzed▋ 16:15, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

  ha --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

  I'd be happy to take the oath, but never say never... THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 12:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

• Question I've been giving sysops who are relatively active on Discord ops on the UDWiki Discord server. Would you be ok with me giving you ops if/when you're promoted? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

  I'm happy to take the added role as admin on the UDWiki Discord server. I believe that in circumstances like these, Sysops should be automatically promoted to an ops position, and have it act as an extension of their responsibilities on the wiki. This was actually my main reasoning behind a 2009 arbitration case that I settled between two IRC channels claiming to be the official channel of UDWiki. In the end, my ruling hinged on the fact that one of them automatically promoted sysops to admin the channel, where the other did not (and refused to do so when asked). THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 12:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

  I will also clarify that in the time that's passed, I don't actually agree with the ruling that I made on that case (as I don't think an "official" UDWiki server on any platform should exist without Kevan's endorsement), but I'm providing the link to show that I've believed what I stated for some time now. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 13:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

  Great! Question What is your ideal size (number of members) for the sysop team at this point? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

  I think the number of active ops is more important than the overall group. Stelar's bid was an example where it's good for ops to have coverage around the timezones, but also being able to have (at the least) a core team to rule on cases within 24-36 hours is important too. Personally, a larger team (9 or 10), with a core team of 5 actively on the wiki at any one time is a size that I have experienced the most satisfying teamwork. In the wiki's current state, that can be lower, but I wouldn't want a team of regular ops to be 3 or less. For a brief time, I did 2, and it's a time I don't look fondly on.

  But it's also important that those sysops are good too. I've had worse experiences in large teams that had bad operators than in smaller teams with a good core group. I think we've been lucky: in 10 years, we've rarely had to consider lowering the standards of our operators just to make up the numbers, and I think valuing quality over quantity has been key to that. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 12:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

  Thank you! Vouch Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:32, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Vouch Has been a great help on UDwiki Discord as well as the wiki. -- ^{FoD PK Praise Rando!}18:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
• VOUCH – SUCKAAAA ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 11:48, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The two week period has finished, which means the comment period has closed. Aichon and I will discuss the bid and get back to you all shortly. stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 12:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

• Strong against - Why does UD still exist?! --Thadeous Oakley Talk 20:30, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

It’s pretty clear that there’s widespread community support for DDR’s bid. Stelar and I really didn’t have much to discuss since we’re in agreement as well. Promoted. Congrats, DDR, and welcome back to the team! —Aichon— 02:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Archived Bids

For earlier promotion bids, see the following:

• This year's promotion bids
• Last year's promotion bids
• Sysop Archives for older bids and related sysop activities