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Hey, check out my user page : ) {{User:DarkStar2374383/Sig}} 18:38, 18 June 2006 (BST)
:I'm so glad that you liked it. It makes it all worthwile. Well, that and Doubler finally admitting that some of his members might be using alternate characters in inappropriate ways and that the argument about my use of the images was crap. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] 01:57, 19 June 2006 (BST)


Lately ive been thinking of doin some certain stuff. But i dont want to mention anything about it really. you have a email address i can reach you at? {{User:DarkStar2374383/Sig}} 12:55, 19 June 2006 (BST)
:Yes. Yes I do. I'm making someone send it to you via Resensitized as I am temp banned until tomorrow. I'm naughty! :D --[[User:Akule|Akule]] 05:49, 20 June 2006 (BST)


Akule, you recieved your first warning for vandalism. further vandalism will result in your loss of editing privilages. the vandalism in question was uploading the picture of The Fifth Horseman.--[[User:Vista|Vista]] 18:11, 20 June 2006 (BST)
:Gotcha. I didn't realize that uploading a picture of someone was worse than the logos I redesigned. I'll avoid doing that in the future. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] 17:53, 22 June 2006 (BST)

==Arbitration==
[[M/A|The ruling is in.]] {{User:Xoid/sig}} 17:57, 24 June 2006 (BST)
:Thanks for performing that duty. I know it was a lot of stuff to surf through. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] 00:28, 28 June 2006 (BST)

== Project ==

I just thought of something. For our "Project" (If we use name discussed in email) we should have some sort of flag as a image. {{User:DarkStar2374383/Sig}} 06:38, 1 July 2006 (BST)
:Just wondering whats going on. You dont seem to be active, and im wondering if your still interested on this. -- {{User:DarkStar2374383/Sig}} 02:43, 16 July 2006 (BST)
::Been away for a while. I'm now getting back up to speed. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] 00:19, 21 July 2006 (BST)

==haha==
yuo rascal-[[User:Banana Bear4|That's Why I did your Wife]] 22:14, 21 July 2006 (BST)

== Do Stuff Correctly! ==

Replace the template with this: <nowiki>{{Laffo5th|User=Akule}}</nowiki> --{{User:DarkStar2374383/Sig}} 06:08, 23 July 2006 (BST)
==Anti-Stupidity Alliance==
Hello, I would like to invite you to the [[Anti-Stupidity Alliance]]. I hope you'll join so the alliance can get off the ground, and that we can add some more content. Thanks!{{User:A1C Jerry/sig}} 10:00, 29 August 2006 (BST)

== Re: Arbitration ruling clarification request ==

You may wish to ask Hagnat or Brizth, but I get the feeling that there isn't another way (other than opening a new arbitration case). Then again, arbitration rules are not my strong point. {{User:Xoid/sig}} 04:11, 15 September 2006 (BST)
:thanks! --[[User:Akule|Akule]] 16:16, 15 September 2006 (BST)

First of all, there's no rules concerning changing arbitration rulings, so technically anything is possible. Common (?) sense says that larger changes warrant a new arbitration case, but at least in this particular case I feel just modifying the old ruling is ok. The spirit of the ruling is quite clear in my opinion, and I feel that's the one we should follow. Since Xoid wrote the original I think he should make the changes, but my general thoughts are these:

Rule #4 (and #2) seems rather ambiguous, with the first sentence speaking about interaction (which I think includes changing someone's journal) and the second sentence talking about contacting the other party (which IMO only includes talk pages).  [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Cannibal_Corps&diff=387258&oldid=382489 This edit] would fall under normal group page ownership guidelines anyway. Hmm. Maybe explicitly listing all the forbidden pages is not such a good idea, as he could (and did) claim that they do not fall under the ruling. I believe the usual arbitration wording is "Pages where X can be considered an invested party". Or something similar. Ironically, that would be even more ambiguous than the current ruling, but in a good way...

Bah, what am I blathering here. Xoid should know what he meant with the ruling and should be able to re-phrase it.  --{{User:Brizth/sig}}

== Hrm. ==

You should be a lawyer. You seem to be obsessed with these sorts of things enough. --{{User:Joe O'Wood/sig}} 00:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:Hell, I was gonna post here and ask this guy if he was a lawyer. Sure sounds like one. Oh, and I hope I don't violate any copyrights with this post, considering how imprecise and ambiguous our [[UDWiki:Copyrights|license]] here is, --[[User:Daranz|Daranz]]<sup>. [[User_talk:Daranz|talk]] . [[UDWiki:Moderation|mod]] .</sup> 02:56, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::I will be, and no. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 06:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

== Out of curiosity... ==

What IS the driving force behind your sudden interest in the large and debatable field of electronic copyright law? Your research and effort put into it shows more than a passing fancy. I'd just like to know the reasons behind your interest, without the chaff of other folks jumping to conclusions about you. --[[User:MorthBabid|MorthBabid]] 20:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:This isn't something new, he leaps from place to place, trying to put right what once went wrong, and hoping that each time his next leap.... will be the leap home.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 20:56, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::Omg!!! I have to do a template abouy Quantum Leap!!! Haven't seen that show since a long long time... -''[[User:Certified=Insane|Certified=Insane]]''<sup>[[Urban Guerillas|☭]]</sup>[[Image:Quebec.gif|16px|Québécois]] 22:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:I'm a law student, and I've done extensive research on Copyright Law. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 06:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
::How do you feel about the current state of electronic copyright law as it stands in the UK? --[[User:MorthBabid|MorthBabid]] 00:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? How do I feel about how they have the rules set up? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 03:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, how well do you think they represent the will of the populus, for starters? Are there places where you feel the letter of the law could be expanded, even if you don't personally know how? --[[User:MorthBabid|MorthBabid]] 08:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
::Law student--ok. But you still haven't really indicated a ''motive''--I mean, is all this out of a sincere and grave fear for Kevan's welfare, out of a pure, driven sense of justice (such justice as the laws may be argued as providing for), to annoy/harass/get attention... not accusing or favoring any one of these (or any other motive), just sincerely wondering. In any case, it seems like a lot of effort that needs some kind of significant motive. I mean, if I see litter I pick it up, try to do my part--but I don't go around trying to clean the streets in my free hours. --[[User:Barbecue Barbecue|Barbecue Barbecue]] 22:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Does my motive really matter? The idea is to keep Kevan safe and clean up the wiki. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:33, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

==Promotions==

{{quote|Akule|Actually, no. I didn't know that. I'll switch my vote.--Dr. Frank Sloth Akule News - All The News That's Fit To Print.  22:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)}}
Will you please change your vote, as you said you would? Thanks. --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 03:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==Why Exactly==

Did you chose to respond to my point on copyright law with an unprovoked and unsubstantiated attack on my sex life? --[[User:Stroth|Stroth]] <sup>[[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]]</sup> 03:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
:I was just wondering if you were that same moderator. No need to be testy. --[[User:Akule]] <sup>[[Journal:Akule|Akule News]]. </sup> 15:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

==Your Journal Page==
Do you know that there is a delete template on top of your journal?  --[[Image:ZombieSlay3rSig.png]] 02:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

==Mheh==

Gage was acting within the rules. He did it in his usual blunt style, but frankly seeing the amount of drama it created, it's better off where it is now.--<small><span style="border: 1px solid MediumSeaGreen">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black">&nbsp;Vista&nbsp;</span>''']][[Signature_Race|<span style="background-color: MediumSeaGreen; color: Ivory ">&nbsp;+1&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 09:02, 10 July 2007 (BST)
:Except that he also changed the title to something completely different, which, as I recall, is a vandal banning offense, isn't it? Or can I go to the speedy deletions page right now and move any request that has a keep vote on it and make whatever title I want? --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 09:06, 10 July 2007 (BST)
::Just let it go. Stop arguing. don't try to go to arbitration, don't add anymore to the discussion. right now nothing productive is coming from it and if you continue it never will. You are creating a lot of drama for no reason at all. take a 24 hour break from it and let it ly--<small><span style="border: 1px solid MediumSeaGreen">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black">&nbsp;Vista&nbsp;</span>''']][[Signature_Race|<span style="background-color: MediumSeaGreen; color: Ivory ">&nbsp;+1&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 09:40, 10 July 2007 (BST)
:::Alright. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 09:45, 10 July 2007 (BST)


==Thank you==
Thanks for the template. :p --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[Council of Leaders|CoL]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 17:08, 30 July 2007 (BST)
:You are certainly welcome. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 13:26, 4 August 2007 (BST)

== Toe Tags ==

Hi. Just wanted to notify you that your "toe tags" clothes suggestion was implemented sneakingly along with some other clothes suggestions about a week ago. They can be found in hospitals/fort infirmaries and NTs --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]]<sub>[[User talk:Duke Garland|T]]</sub><sup>[[LCD|']][[Signature Race|']][[SSZ|']]</sup> 13:04, 25 August 2007 (BST)
:Excellent! I'm glad that Kevan liked the idea. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 16:54, 27 August 2007 (BST)

==Copyright Crusade==
I honestly believe you are taking it too far. Yes, some images are clear copyright rip-offs. Yes, I believe the mostly unused ones should be deleted. However, your recent deletion "crusade" is taking things too far. At this rate, even if you are entirely in the right, nobody will listen to you. Radicals have alot of trouble. [[User:SuperMario24|SuperMario24]] 02:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
:Quite possibly, however, Kevan [[UDWiki_talk:Moderation/Policy_Discussion/Citerion_13_-_Speedy_Deletion_of_Copyrighted_Images#Emails_From_Kevan|said]] things will be changing. A fact that many people are having problems with. --[[User:Akule]] <sup>[[Journal:Akule|Akule News]]. </sup> 02:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
::Then try to minimize your crusade until that change comes. Your alienating yourself and those few on the wiki who would support you. [[User:SuperMario24|SuperMario24]] 02:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
:::With change brings turmoil. --[[User:Akule]] <sup>[[Journal:Akule|Akule News]]. </sup> 02:58, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Quit trying to be the next Amazing. You, sir, are no Amazing! --[[User:Zod Rhombus|Zod Rhombus]] 03:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Not trying to be. Thanks for the visit though. --[[User:Akule]] <sup>[[Journal:Akule|Akule News]]. </sup> 15:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm] - [[User:Pardus|Pardus]] 22:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's fine and good, however, until the current system changes, we have to be careful. Even then, [[UDWiki:Copyrights|the current copyright policy of the wiki]] is pretty clear. Currently, we're working on categorizing images first, then we can move on to the next step. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 19:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

==Month late response==
Thanks for noticing that you're on my groups shit list. Just wanted to reinforce how much you annoy me. You're also in my firing squad template.--[[User:Rogue|Rogue]] 22:06, 4 September 2007 (BST)
:I'm glad I could give you a purpose in the game. Without me, you'd be wandering the wilderness of Malton with nothing to do. I gave you a goal. You're welcome. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 22:23, 4 September 2007 (BST)
::No that's ToTalk's job. But thank you for giving me something to do on the side.  --[[User:Rogue|Rogue]] 09:34, 5 September 2007 (BST)
:::Then I gave you a side-quest. Clearly something beneficial can be had at the end of it, like a new wardrobe. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 23:50, 5 September 2007 (BST)
==The wiki is/isn't commercial==
Hello could help but notice the last flare up in the great wiki copyright wars and I would like to try and end it once and for all. It seams, to me at least, this clearly is a commercial website but there seems to be some confusion that free does not mean noncommercial. Is there anywhere were kevan has said that the wiki is commercial? A quote from him could bring an end to that part of struggle and you seam like the person who would know where it was if it existed already.  - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:37, 8 September 2007 (BST)
:Well... heh, I'm not akule, and try to stay out of the copyright drama... but how about the lil urbandead.'''com''' thing might give it away ;) --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 00:49, 8 September 2007 (BST)
:Well, aside from the fact that the wiki is a subpage of urbandead.com, the [[:UDWiki:About|about page]], does state that "Urban Dead is an HTML/text-based MMORPG created by Kevan Davis. The game went live in July 2005. Set in a quarantined region of the fictional city of Malton, it deals with the immediate aftermath of a zombie outbreak. New players can start as a human or zombie, each with different abilities and limitations. In over a year, Urban Dead has garnered over 800,000 registered players. Statistics for the wiki are available as well." This shows that the wiki is a part of the service that Kevan provides. I'll have to make a page where I explain out the myths of copyright law, the facts of copyright law, and how it pertains to us. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 20:53, 8 September 2007 (BST)
::Actually Akule, Kevan has before said that the wiki is one a completely separate server.--{{User:Karek/sig}} 22:25, 10 September 2007 (BST)
:::Go ahead and link me. Then, also look at the page. The wiki is a subpage of the urban dead site, meaning that it is grouped together with the Urban Dead game. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 01:57, 12 September 2007 (BST)
Do you think [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Copyrights Update 1]] is enough to answer any questions people have about commercial use? - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:56, 9 September 2007 (BST)
:It will help, but people won't follow it even then. They will continue to ignore what that policy says and what Kevan has to say about it. Look up at Karek. He could give a flying crap of what is on that page or what Kevan wants. Many users are like that. I could flesh out the [[Copyright]] page to explain how copyright law works with the wiki and in the UK, but I doubt people will read it. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 01:57, 12 September 2007 (BST)

== Regarding Grim_s ==

It's basically up to Kevan how the wiki is run and whether steps are taken to shape the culture towards something more adult. Personally, I like to see civility wherever I go, but this is a wiki attached to a game with huge variation in ages - I'll push for more civility, but not too hard (on Wikipedia I pushed considerably harder because it was actually trying to get things done). As Grim_s is an admin already (or whatever they're called on this MediaWiki), and given how relatively new I am on this particular Wiki, I don't want to rock the boat too much, even as I am bothered by how he conducts himself. I might chime in to Kevan in that discussion at some point, I'm not sure. Take care, and thanks for the pointer. --[[User:Pgunn|Pgunn]] 01:39, 9 September 2007 (BST)
:Well, I am encouraged with Kevan's response, and I will work toward making the wiki a better place. It's nice to know that he shares my opinion in this matter. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 02:39, 11 September 2007 (BST)


===The link===
Thanks for the link you sent. Some poeple on this site need to let their balls drop.
--[[User:Scout 2107|Scout 2107]] 03:29, 10 September 2007 (BST)
:It's more that some people need to know that they are role-models for good wiki-behavior. It helps curb bad behavior better than having a sysop who is behaving like an ass. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 02:38, 11 September 2007 (BST)
::Or a user who constantly harasses people he dislikes and attempts to use the system as a vehicle for their hatreds? I wonder who would ever do that.--{{User:Karek/sig}} 02:43, 11 September 2007 (BST)
:::Following policy is hardly harassment. Amusingly enough, if I do a simple stroll through your contributions, I can find very blatant harassment against people. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 01:59, 12 September 2007 (BST)

==Policy Reference==
Thanks for the note.  I did indeed shift my vote based on recent sysop "input".  Not a perfect policy, but better than the status quo.  Cheers.  --[[User:Dylan Mak Tyme|Dylan Mak Tyme]] 05:01, 13 September 2007 (BST)

== [[A/A]] ==
A case has been started against you. Please check. --{{User:Matthewfarenheit/Signature}} 18:42, 13 September 2007 (BST)
:I noticed. The latest in a long series of harassment against me. It's not really a big surprise. I guess when Kevan shot them down and then agreed with my assessment of Grim, it pissed them off. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 23:27, 13 September 2007 (BST)
==RE:[[International Copyright]]==
I've only had time to give it a brief skimming (real life = extremely busy) but what I've seen looks like a nice summary of the copyright laws in general. After Copyrights Update 1 moves to voting I'm going to thrash out a basic "Copyrights and their uses on the Wiki" FAQ to try and make a more user friendly presentation of all the various copyright pages that keep getting brought up in the Copyright debates. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 03:26, 21 September 2007 (BST)
:The extremely rough draft of the aforementioned FAQ is here [[User:Vantar/Sandbox]] can you think of any more questions it should have/points it should make - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:31, 25 September 2007 (BST)

==[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration|Arbitration]==
Please enter your side of the case as soon as is conveinient, so that we may resolve it as soon as possible. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 04:21, 22 September 2007 (BST)

:At this point Im not even asking for the details of the arbitration....I just want to hear each persons perspective of WHY it made it to arbitration, And THEIR view of the situation...no you don't have to go first the names are in alphabetical order... I'll get to the where and whyfores of the arbitration later... [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 07:11, 23 September 2007 (BST)

::After reading everything I believe rebuttals will be an exercise in futility, drawing out the process longer than it needs to. I'm fairly certain I have everything I need, especially after reading the content and demeanor of the initial statements. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 02:07, 18 October 2007 (BST)

==Vandalism Re:==
No problem, that's why I'm here.  He's probably going to trash my page now. ;)  --[[Image:ZombieSlay3rSig.png]]<sup>[[User talk:Zombie slay3r|T]]</sup> 02:45, 9 October 2007 (BST)

==Arby's==
Did...you...have..to...write..so..much? And with all the links, I kept getting distracted! Can't you go easy on the people with short attention spans? Geez. Good luck.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 03:00, 11 October 2007 (BST)
:Yeah, I know. I had a lot to say, and I am taking it seriously. I'm just wondering if Grim is going to see the similarities over his [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=854841 recent] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=854966 rash] of [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=855360 dickering] over [[Suggestion#Advice_before_Making_a_Suggestion|a rule for the suggestions page]], and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=811355 my] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=812377 very] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=812582 similar] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=812675 argument] about [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration#Guidelines_for_Arbitration_Requests|the rules of arbitration]], as he [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=next&oldid=812796 considered it irrelevant]. But hey, I'm just a mindless wikilawyer right? It's not like Grim [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct&diff=prev&oldid=855404 escalated it in order to prove his point]. ''':D ''' --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 01:17, 12 October 2007 (BST)
::Mindless my ass! It'd be ''much'' easier to ignore copyrights if you were mindless! ''':)'''.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 02:22, 13 October 2007 (BST)
:::Ah, but it can't be ''that'' easy. Now, if we allowed for off-site linking of images, we could avoid the issue altogether. Kevan wouldn't be at risk as the copyrighted images would not be hosted on his site, and we could keep them confined to the user pages. The wiki could then just host unique urban dead-specific images (ex. [[The Great Mall Project]]) on the main pages. People could then "have their cake and eat it too", as they could keep their copyrighted images and still keep to the spirit of [[UDWiki:Copyrights|the copyright policy]] (i.e. prevent possible lawsuits). --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 01:41, 16 October 2007 (BST)

Ah, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration&diff=863161&oldid=858263 worth the wait]. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 00:22, 18 October 2007 (BST)
:weren't you actually waiting for Grimch to post something before you responded, but got tired of waiting?--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 00:28, 18 October 2007 (BST)
::Yes, they were '''supposed''' to go first, yet Grim took ''waaaayy'' too long. After three weeks of waiting, I didn't think he would respond anytime soon. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 00:12, 19 October 2007 (BST)

:I Have Ruled. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 01:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

==Ahh...I like it==

It's good all around. What Boxy suggested probably should be thrown in there. The only one really opposing this would be Grim. I think this'll probably pass.
--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 04:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not to but in but I completely agree and believe you to be unbiased in this policy suggestion, Akule. [[User:Sockem|Sockem]] 04:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. There is a lot of call for a policy like this, so I figured I'd see if I could make one that would be easier to implement and use. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 21:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Help me==

I don't know you and you don't know me, but your name was first on the arbitration list and i need help. A month ago i made a suggestion called Firearm Flavor Text. It did pretty well, but when the two weeks had gone by, it was gone. I checked peer reviewed, rejected, and undecided, but i couldn't find it. Do you know where it went? 
--[[User:Officer 123satsitx|Officer 123satsitx]] 16:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not Akule, but the best thing you can do when you can't find something that you did is to check your contributions.  You can find this link in the upper right hand corner.  I went through and looked at your contributions and noticed it had been moved to Peer Review, most notibly [[Suggestion:20070930_Firearm_Flavour_Text|here]].  I hope that helps (cross posting to your talk page)--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 17:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yup. Anime is correct. It has already been voted on, and it looks like it passed. Congratulations! --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 19:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==Cookie==

Heres your cookie for being so smart on the policy disscusion about sysops selfbanning, Enjoy!
{{Cookie|1=Blobdude|2=Akule|reason=listening and being so smart!}}
:I'm glad that you appreciated my input. Thanks for the cookie. I will treasure it always. Oh, and sign your posts, please. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 01:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I usually sign, forgot 'cause I didn't want your cookie to burn in the oven. --{{User:Blobdude/Sig}} 05:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:::No problem. I wasn't trying to be mean or anything by stating that. I just wanted to remind you because I know people prefer others to sign posts. Thanks again for the cookie! --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 00:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

==Conndraka's ruling==
Yeah, he has ruled upon your case. There's of course this thing that you cannot post on some administrational pages for three months, and I wanted to talk with you about that. If there's something on wich you need ''immediate assistance'' feel free to drop me a message on my talk page and I'll be helping you if I'm online, like if somebody tries to speedydelete your stuff. Just don't try to make me post copyrighted stuff for deletion, disserting on dramatic issues on your behalf or something like that, because that will bring drama into this sort of cooperation. I just want to express my solidarity to you, that's all. --{{User:Matthewfarenheit/Signature}} 14:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I am with matt on this one... your approach to deletions annoys the hell out of me and in general i agree with the ruling, however it really should have had an opt out for such things as your stuff being put up for deletion! If it happens I will happily vote keep regardless of merit until such time as you are allowed to defend it yourself. Your stance in the Arbies case did you a lot of credit and while i know we will never agree on copyright I do think the whole thing was a sham and am very glad it blew up in their faces! --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's vandalism.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Since when? People can vote however the hell they want to vote.  Otherwise "because Akule needs to get laid" would be vandlism as well.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 10:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It's vandalism because it's voting for it simply to screw with A/D, same reason why voting keep on a suggestion for the sake of stopping spam is vandalism. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It wouldn't be voting keep to screw with [[A/D]], it would be voting keep because he thought it unfair to delete a page when the owner couldn't defend them self on the page due to an [[A/A]] ruling <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 10:31 29 November 2007 (BST)</small>
:::::It's no better then putting pages up for speedy deletion because you don't like the author.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::No, it would be voting to avoid unfairly penalizing Akule. If something of his gets put up for deletion and he has no vote I am stating that I would be willing to act as his proxy vote! Call it vandalism if you like but I am more than willing to argue that something should be kept because the creator wants it kept and i think it unfair to deny him his chance to argue for himself! Vandalism would apply only if I was voting merely to be an asshat.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 12:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Not so much of a "proxy" vote, but out of our own free will guys like us would always vote keep on an unfair request such as the one example we're mentioning (someone posting [[User:Akule|some guy who can't defend himself]] stuff on [[A/SD]]). We're merely making it explicit on this header, because we know that Akule is the one person that could need this kind of help in the not so distant future. Finally, extracted textually from Conndraka's ruling: ''You might be right, but let somebody else handle it for a while''. --{{User:Matthewfarenheit/Signature}} 14:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::There's a difference there, I'm talking about Honestmistake's comment that anything involving Akule, regardless of why it is there, will get a keep. Now if something is there simply because the person who added it wanted to exploit Conndrakka's absurd ruling then that's a different story.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I would be voting keep because I feel it would be wrong to delete someones pages/contributions without their being able to comment. Thats a firmly held opinion and thus more than enough to count as a valid vote... just because i have made it clear that i will do this does not make me a troll or a vandal or anything else... It means i am offering support to someone '''IF''' they need to call on it! --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 21:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks guys. I appreciate it. I don't think that you will have to worry about me putting up any images for deletion for a while, ruling or no. Hagnat did reach out before the arbitration started and proposed an interesting idea on how to work out the copyrighted images for the wiki. I'm going to continue his work with [[:Category:Copyrighted Images]] and set-up the [[UDWiki_talk:Copyright_Project|Copyright Project]] to work with Boxy's [[UDWiki:Image_Categorisation|Image Categorization project]]. I figure that by going through and first giving credit to the author of the images, it would be not only a good first step toward gaining permission to use the images and keeping them in some semblance of order, but a step that wouldn't cause further strife amongst the other wiki users. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 19:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::About the giving credit, is there more to it the just filling out Template:Copyright and slapping it on the image? If thats all there is to it then I can crank through a few hundred of these. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 21:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::That's the start. By filling out [[:Template:Copyright]], we are at least citing who owns the images. They will still be used without permission, but at least we would have them cited. I'd like to also add something to the template so we can instruct the owners of the images (should they not want their images used) on how to go about having their images removed. That way they will have the option, rather than harassing Kevan. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 19:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm glad you're exploring more peaceful options, Akule. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 02:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It's better than nothing. This way, if an artist stumbles across the site, they will be less likely to want to pull the images.
--[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 19:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Image Categories==
If you're going to start into them, please put more than one wherever it's appropriate, not just the most obvious one. For example, [[:Image:Weapons.JPG]] should have [[:Category:Weapons]] on it also, at least <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 06:35 1 December 2007 (BST)</small>
:I'm going to go back and add those. I was first going through the template pages and adding the [[:Category:Template_Images]] to those images there. Then I was going to choose another image category and go there. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 06:38, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::Well that just fucks up our ability to go through the uncategoriesed list and find which images need tags. As soon as you put the template category on them, we'll not be able to find them again <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 06:40 1 December 2007 (BST)</small>
:::Alright. I'll go back and completely finish all of them. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 06:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::All my templates are be categorized? Damn you, Damn you to heeeeeeeeeeeeeellllll!--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Soon to be categorized, ''even more''. (cue evil laughter) --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 07:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


==Image Categorisation==
I think we're ready to start in on [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|categorising the wiki's images]], please read the instructions on that page, and then if there are any further questions, ask on the talk page (or my own page). We've got a big job ahead :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 01:23 2 December 2007 (BST)</small>
:Sure. I'll start reading and looking over the images. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 23:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

==ProjDev Junk==
I'd like you to participate in [[User:Karek/ProjDev/Arbitration Policy|this]] discussion and would request that you try to keep arguing to a minimum.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:I'll look it over. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 23:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Xmas Attack ==

The [[PKA]] would like to invite the [[Cannibal Corps]] to a very special [[Silent Night Slaughter]]. Your attendance would be very honoring. Details are available on the PKA forums.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Pker_Alliance/index.php?act=idx

-Secruss of the CGR

--{{User:Secruss/Sig}}22:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Man. I should have checked this while I was on holiday. I would have been glad to have participated in that. Let me know the next time you do something like that (like Valentines Day) and I can see what I can do to round up some of the guys. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 15:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)