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Discussions about how to improve the Radio main page, allocation process and usage of radio frequencies. Asking for frequency reservations is not required, unless there are questions.

==Archive Notice==

Please move stale items over to [[Talk:Radio/archive|archives]].

==Requesting Clan Frequency==
I'm setting up a new clan called the Malton Tactical Defense and Rescue, and we would like to ask for an official radio station, preferably on the frequency 27.95. If that isn't available, we'd be fine with a different frequency. Thank you.
:27.95 is in use.  Try 27.09 instead. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 18:26, 20 July 2009 (BST)

== Poachers ==
It seems that a group called the [[Mall_Security_Alliance|Mall Security Alliance]] has poached my group's station from the radio page's listing. We received no notification. Can anyone elaborate?--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 21:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC) [[F.C.G.]]
* I can't say that I remember ever seeing the listing.  I'll ask some of the other list maintainers what they know.  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:Thank you. We've had that frequency marked and in frequent use by [[Full-Custom_Gospel|us]] since at least mid-2008. Ask [[Section_13|Section 13]] for corroboration. Having a radio frequency helps when events like the Mall Tour destroy the cellular tower, plus it allows you to contact your entire group with '''''one''''' action point instead of five to fifteen or more. I figured we would be asked or notified during the Great Radio Massacre before someone altered our relatively long-standing claim to the frequency, but we weren't. Any investigation into this injustice is appreciated.--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 22:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::I've just checked the [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Radio Web Archive], but they don't have the date that I claim, which sucks. Damnit.--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 00:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:::The page history goes back as far as August 13, 2008, and the MSA had the frequency claimed at that time. The MSA, however, have only had it on their page since March 8, 2009 (before that time, they had 28.88, now used by someone else). I have no idea what's going on here. I have no idea why our name was removed from the listing or when, and I'm at a loss as to how we can prove we had it to begin with, short of the word of our [[Section_13|neighbors]] (if they can even remember back that far). This looks hopeless, but I still have faith in the system. Surely this mystery can unraveled by someone. I'm trying my damndest.--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 10:20, 29 March 2009 (BST)
::::/me looks. It should firstly be said that this list isn't really "official" and frequencies can be claimed by anyone (hence, some shared frequencies.) Go ahead and add your name next to them if you want. I've checked your group's talk page history and you weren't checked by the Great Radio Group Massacre, which means that it must have been taken before then (that was in about December.)
::::Secondly, after looking through the history of [[Full-Custom Gospel|your page]], it appears it was [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Full-Custom_Gospel&oldid=1371664 created] in January. We removed all groups that had a red link, or simply didn't exist, so that's probably why it was removed. Sorry. It appeared it wasn't [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Radio%2FFrequency_List&diff=1348872&oldid=1347385 removed] by the Great Radio Group Massacre (the frequency was in use by [[Rotters Relief]] at the time, they didn't report on their activity, and were removed. So, by the looks of things, your frequency was poached by Rotter's Relief, who then where reported inactive, and the inactive frequency was taken by the MSA. Sadly, the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Radio/Frequency_List&limit=500&action=history history] for the [[Radio/Frequency List]] page ends in August (the Frequency List page is a template which is then added onto the main Radio page. If someone needs to change a frequency, they do it there. You were looking at the wrong history ;p.)
::::Hope I got everything. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:43, 29 March 2009 (BST)
:::::I guess we'll have to change our frequency. Damnit. Thank you for your help. Poachers suck. I suppose I'll leave a note on MSA's talk page explaining this. I could of sworn I made our page last year, but in reality I had only claimed the frequency without making a group page due to being wiki-illiterate (I still have a lot of room for improvement). I consider this a mystery solved. Thanks, Mr. Wizard.--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 10:57, 29 March 2009 (BST)
::::::Regardless, I remember linking the radio page to ours. I remember that vividly. But this as close as I can get to the truth, so the best I can do is claim a new frequency and watch it like a hawk; and relunctantly consider this matter closed.--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 11:05, 29 March 2009 (BST)
:::::::All right, we've laid claim to a [[Radio#27.01MHz_through_27.50MHz|new frequency]]. I think I'll snap if someone takes this one, as well.--[[User:El Payaso Malo|Bishop Vagancia I]] 05:05, 8 April 2009 (BST) [[F.C.G.]]

==I'm weeding out freqs again==

Just to let you know... .  This time, I'm using the [[Great Suburb Group Massacre]] non-active template as an indicator of groups that aren't active.  If this scheme doesn't work for you, go ahead and reclaim your freq with my apologies.   [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 21:46, 24 September 2008 (BST)

== Some group from across the city is using our local frequency 26.07==

Hello, I just noticed that the group [[Mad Craskers]] from [[Heytown]] were broadcasting on the frequency 26.07, which I understand is reserved for [[Raines Hills]] and some other suburbs.  On their wiki page they have the template that says this is their own radio frequency, but it's obvious that they never checked with the radio page.  How can we get this group to change its broadcasting frequency? --[[User:Idly Hummingbird|Idly Hummingbird]] 01:53, 5 September 2008 (BST)
: You could ask them, and offer one of the empty freqs.  Buut in general, anybody can broadcast anywhere at anytime. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:55, 7 September 2008 (BST)
: Plus, some douchebag (I don't know who) is currently setting all of our radio on 26.07MHz instead of the official 26.06MHz. That so lame. I think we can claim that as zomby spying 'cause he's jamming our communication system!--[[User:GoLookAndKill|GoLookAndKill]] 13:34, 2 October 2008 (BST)

== A Suggestion ==
Recently, I've noticed a serious flaw in the structure of Suburb Radio Frequencies. They use up too many frequencies and the current structure is hard to remember. I suggest changing it to the following:

26.01: Dakerstown, Jensentown, Quarlesbank, West Boundwood, East Boundwood, Lamport Hills, Chanceltown, Earletown, Rhodenbank, Dulston.

26.02: Roywood, Judgewood, Gatcombeton, Shuttlebank, Yagoton, Millen Hills, Raines Hills, Pashenton, Rolt Heights, Pescodside.

26.03: Peddlesden Village, Chudleyton, Darvall Heights, Eastonwood, Brooke Hills, Shearbank, Huntley Heights, Santlerville, Gibsonton, Dunningwood.

26.04: Dunell Hills, West Becktown, East Becktown, Richmond Hills, Ketchelbank, Roachtown, Randallbank, Heytown, Spracklingbank, Paynterton.

26.05: Owsleybank, Molebank, Lukinswood, Havercroft, Barrville, Ridleybank, Pimbank, Peppardville, Pitneybank, Starlingtown.

26.06: Grigg Heights, Reganbank, Lerwill Heights, Shore Hills, Galbraith Hills, Stanbury Village, Roftwood, Edgecombe, Pegton, Dentonside.

26.07: Crooketon, Mornington, North Blythville, Brooksville, Mockridge Heights, Shackleville, Tollyton, Crowbank, vinetown, Houldenbank.

26.08: Nixton, Wykewood, South Blythville, Greentown, Tapton, Kempsterbank, Wray Heights, Gulsonside, Osmondville, Penny Heights.

26.09: Foulkes Village, Ruddlebank, Lockettside, Dartside, Kinch Heights, West Grayside, East Grayside, Scarletwood, Penville, Fryerbank.

26.10: New Arkham, Old Arkham, Spicer Hills, Williamsville, Buttonville, Wyke Hills, Hollomstown, Danversbank, Whittenside, Miltown.

I will accept any constructive criticism and I would also like to thank you for your time reading this suggestion. [[User:Chill|Chill]] 17:45, 3 September 2008 (BST)

: Aside from the oft-stated premise that the existing structure has been around forever and a lot of folks are going to have to be convinced for this to change...  how is the proposed system better than than status quo? [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:37, 3 September 2008 (BST)

:: Well first off, it's easier to rember than the old system. Secondly, it prevents confusion. Finally, this new configuration opens up ten previously unavailable frequencies for use. Also please keep in mind that this was just a suggestion, and I don't expect everyone to agree or like it. [[User:Chill|Chill]] 21:07, 14 September 2008 (BST)

::: I'd have to check, but the original system was designed so that a few large facilities situated on borders wouldn't be broken into 2 regional frequency realms.  I know of at least 1 mall and 1 fort that would be broken up under the proposal. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 21:23, 18 September 2008 (BST)

== Recommendations for new radio list entries? ==

I had an idea of having a short list of recommendations for new radio list entries. I tried to keep any pov to a minimum but I think such can't be avoided entirely. Any input and edits on it would be very welcome. --[[User:Tumu|Tumu]] 05:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


Do's and Dont's for new radio list entries

Because the radio is free and limited resource for everyone, here are few recommendations before claiming a frequency and using it in-game:

* Going to report zombie/building status? Use the suburb/district frequencies. That way you target the survivors who are interested on hearing such status. Only very few survivors/groups can do anything about status of a far away suburb. There are already plenty of localized frequencies present, don't expect survivors to carry another radio for a new one.

* A group frequency is not a status symbol, anyone can reserve one. Consider reserving one when you have more than few groupies and can keep a transmitter running for longer than one week.
** More than 10 group members makes your group visible on the group list. Makes verifying your reservation easy.

* Don't reserve more than one frequency. Each listened frequency needs a radio, most survivors can't afford having idle radios in their inventories.

* Don't reserve a frequency for a building (or a group of buildings) unless it habits more than 50 survivors. 50 survivors is the limit when normal speaking doesn't reach every survivor in a building.
** Buildings are always targets for zombie attacks, especially listed safehouses. Ruined and zombie inhabited buildings can't have a transmitter, making the frequency useless until the buildings are restored. If the building is not a high profile location, having it restored might take a while.
** Survivors may retune lone transmitter for their use. And even few are interested on keeping a transmitter up in a building with no other survivors.

* Do understand that the frequencies are available for anyone to transmit and listen in. If you can't stand your frequency being spammed by rogue transmits or listened in by others, seriously consider having one in first place.
** Radio list maintainers may occasionally transmit on your frequency to verify that it is running.

* Do clean up your reservation if your group dissolves. It was easy to reserve, it is as easy to remove. Otherwise it will be left around for some time.
** Radio list maintainers may mark unresponsive frequencies as available in a occasional list cleanup.

== The Great Radio Group Massacre ==

Let's do what the [[The Great Suburb Group Massacre]] did to suburb pages, to the radio page. 

I'll make a subpage of this page [[Radio/Group Massacre|here]], and let's get this started. It's long overdue.

--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 22:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for getting this started.  I've been meaning to do this for awhile now. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Requesting  To Add Station ==

Hi - I'd like to request that the 26.49 MHz frequency be returned to the [[Bandit Queens]], who are no longer inactive. --[[User:SlowLoris|SlowLoris]] 01:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:Request not, add. You need not request. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 03:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello There! I Am Requesting To Add 2 Stations To 28.04 MHz And 28.05 MHz For My News Station '''[[Channel 25 News]]'''. I Am Currently Building It Right Now But With Those 2 Stations I Can Get It Up And Running..

Thanks!,
--Mysticlegacy <sup>[[Channel 25 News]]</sup> 06:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:Approved. We don't actually take requests, you add them. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 05:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

'''RE:''' Oops Lol But Anyway Thanks!{{unsigned|Mysticlegacy}}
::Yeah, what Cory said. The only time you'll ever be asked is when we get around to doing another group massacre. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 06:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Lol k I Was Just Making Sure --Mysticlegacy <sup>[[Channel 25 News]]</sup> 08:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

hi, 28.05 was previously Undeadites Rnrarrhradio... and we'd kind of like it to remain that way. We are not inactive, we broadcast frequently. we were even broadcasting during the time period that we were sent the "group massacre".--[[User:Surfincow|Surfincow]] 05:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:You can re-ad it. We can't possibly listen in and literally check all groups for activity, so doing by the wiki is the only way. Please reply in future so we don't have any problems. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 05:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ashate or Asheets (I mix them up) used to do some checking that way. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 05:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, yeah, I guess I could make a throw-away alt for such a purpose, but it would be too much effort (especially as a lot of channels are randomally spammed.) Anyway, I've re-added your channel for now, just ''please'' respond to such a massacre in future. Thanks! {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 06:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks! it's just that the massacre was during the holiday season, when i for one probably payed the least attention to the wiki, i just didn't see it until yesterday! next time i'll be quicker to respond.--[[User:Surfincow|Surfincow]] 20:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I've noticed that the group using 28.69 is inactive, I was wondering if it would be ok if [[We Are Nice Guys]] claimed it. Thanks! --[[User:ShornSMan|ShornSMan]] 22:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

'''Approved. Request not, add them yourself. You need not request. However do not remove an existing group from the listing if it's active. There may be more than one group utilising a frequency.''' 
: {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 04:22, 9 April 2009 (BST)

== 25.96 MHz: *crash* *static* *silence* (1 hour and 29 minutes ago) ==
I [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-07-09_0200hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_45-55_2596_crash_bc0-5ff-acd.html heard a crash and static] on 25.96 mHz.  How would that happen?  I didn't think anybody could set a radio transmitter to those frequencies, which means the normal mechanic of a transmitter being destroyed would not do it, right?  {{User:Swiers/Sig}} 03:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:Strange.. Oh, you can tune, but not transmit, an oversight, methinks. Also, the phone number you mentioned if your site went down didn't work. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 04:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

==Prolonged static?==
I saw a new one today during an RRF incursion:  "26.70 MHz: *prolonged static*"  Sorry -- didn't get a screenshot.  What do you make of that? [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hm, perhaps the crash of many transmitters? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 18:40, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Request for review of frequency use ==

'''I would like to request that frequency 28.01, the "4chan spam channel", be considered for deletion. Spam is something that is not tolerated in urban dead. There are several anti-spam mechanisms in-game to prevent useless spamming, such as the "hoarse voice" message when characters excessively speak, a maximum number of characters per speech, and the option to mute characters in one's contacts list. Giving spammers an entire channel upon which to spam, swear and be vulgar is pointless and completely counters every anti-spam and anti-swearing mechanism available in the game.''' It also encourages further spamming. This, in turn, becomes a reflection on the entire UD community; "We can spam on this channel. This must mean spamming is okay."'''

Below is the description of the channel.

''28.01 MHz - YE SPAM CHANNEL! (a.k.a 4chan Radio) The home of /b/tards, spam, rEaL_gAmEr, and idiocy itself. If you are dumb, this is the frequency you need to visit. Be advised that neither kevan, nor this wiki can be held responsible for any brain damage that may result from tuning into this frequency. '''Be aware that somebody has been using multiple characters and using all of their AP to spam the word "penis."'''

'''UD is a game for all ages. The content of "4chan Radio" is inappropriate and is not "PG-rated". If someone can spam "penis" repeatedly on this channel, but cannot do so when speaking, there is a discrepancy in the rules between what is allowed and what is accepted.

Purposely giving spammers an opportunity to spam is ridiculous. If they want to spam and, as the description said, ''"be stupid"'' then 4channers can do so on their own forums with their own friends. Urban Dead is not their personal spam-fest.'''

Regards, 
[[User:Chekken|Chekken]] 05:32, 8 August 2009 (BST)