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=Ruddlebank Current News talk=
''Talk about current affairs here''

25/09/09 - PKer alert. "problemwiththetrucks" killed two users unprovoked in Sly Place Police department. Anyone around there watch out and dispose of him if deemed necessary.

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== March of The Dead ==

The Dead have swept through Ruddlebank, destroying the suburb systematically. All NecroTech facilities have been offlined and ruined. 10%-20% of buildings remain barricaded. Everywhere else is ruined/opened. [[User:DeRathi|DeRathi]] 19:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Second Big Bash ==

In order to help future attempts by [[Survivors]] to coordinate a response to the [[The Second Big Bash|2nd Big Bash]], I have set up a page specifically for this purpose called &quot;[[Survivors vs The Second Big Bash]]&quot;. Please add any news on this page, and any ideas for strategy on the [[Talk:Survivors vs The Second Big Bash|discussion page]]. Good luck!  --[[User:Richardhg|Richardhg]] 03:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


===October 25<sup>th</sup>===
I'm in ur tikhon, big bashin yer brainz! [[User:The man|The man]] 22:39, 25 October 2007 (BST)

===July 2nd===

<small>Below was in the news section. Original statement removed by original author afterwards. Moved here for reference.</small>
{{Quote|Montana8|It wont do soon my friends, just a warning to tickon medical- im coming for ya!}}

If you're going to try and be menacing, at least spell your target correctly please. -[[User:Gofqua|Gofqua]] 03:28, 4 July 2007 (BST)
:Wait, that's how they get you! You get all irate and stressed over avoidable typos and they ZMASH down the door :(. [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[User_talk:Armareum|.]] 04:50, 4 July 2007 (BST)
::Oh, "Tickon" Medical. Yeah, they've all gone to Ridleybank. If you hurry, you can catch them off-guard.--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 14:28, 4 July 2007 (BST)

{{Quote|Montana8|First of all i ment the hospital in ruddlebank, and nuabreed- well when i find you, i will '''kill'''	you. I am also on my way to get revived, so suspect some Pking at tickhon medical in the next couple of days :)}}

::::EDIT: Montana8's removed their last two posts from here. It kind of makes the rest of these posts look a bit meaningless. Needless to say he was threatening to come kill us all. Again. --[[User:Amanil|Amanil]] 22:43, 5 July 2007 (BST)
:::::<small>And moved to the talk page for reference. [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[User_talk:Armareum|.]] 05:42, 6 July 2007 (BST) Added the other missing post--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 12:35, 6 July 2007 (BST)</small>

===June 24, 2007===


''Also [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=114161 Phlem Hawker] is in the region. He has been seen attempting to lower barricades and killing NT defenders during zombie attacks.''

I hardly see how this should be deleted. Nuabreed is only identifying a PKer that would otherwise attempt to harm Ruddlebankers. Would you rather us not tell about PKers so we won't accidently help them? Your justification for deletion doesn't make sense. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:56, 25 June 2007 (BST) .... In fact I'm going to change it back now, this is silly. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:07, 25 June 2007 (BST)

:I agree - that statement isn't a good example of '''non-'''NPOV. It could perhaps be phrased better, but info on a PKer being present is relevant info. There is other news on the page that could be eligible for amending/removal due to '''non-'''NPOV issues. But I'm not going to do it - just encourage NPOV in the future. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 23:31, 25 June 2007 (BST)
::How would you go about making the statement better, then? I added this little talk page spot for future new problems, but I I'm a tad lazy to move stuff. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:46, 25 June 2007 (BST)
:::I'm sorry, I meant to say "''I agree - that statement isn't a good example of <b>non-</b>NPOV''". That completely reverses the meaning of what you will have read, so again: sorry! [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 00:15, 26 June 2007 (BST)
::::Thats fine. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:35, 26 June 2007 (BST)
:::::You want to report PKers go to any one of the numerous PK lists, don't post their them on the wiki. Zombies don't care if you have a PKer and survivors don't care if zombies have a ZKer. Don't report people profiles on the suburb wiki, do it on the talk page if you want but not on the actual wiki. I will however leave it for now.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 03:39, 26 June 2007 (BST)
::::::Hmm we do have [[RSG/Ruddlebank wanted|Ruddlebank wanted]] for this stuff...{{unsigned|NRnRQBBAN}}
:::::::There you go, there is a place for you to put it.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 15:01, 26 June 2007 (BST)
::::::::Why do you care so much? Telling the community about a PKer as a little sidenote isn't hurting anyone. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:20, 26 June 2007 (BST)
::::::::: I disagree, I believe it is hurting everyone. It's damaging to the player, it's damaging to the community, but most importantly, here it is damaging to impartiality.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 20:23, 26 June 2007 (BST)
::::::::::Are you trying to make a funny? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:51, 26 June 2007 (BST)
:::::::::::No, I am quite serious.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 20:54, 26 June 2007 (BST)
::::::::::::Well I'm laughing my ass off. Are you for real? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:03, 26 June 2007 (BST) Being a dick aside, being a PKer is their choice, in Phlem's cause, probably from boredom. It's a game. He doesn't give crap if his character gets killed, same with the community.
:::::::::::Ok, then report him through the right forums, the suburb wiki pages are not the right forums.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 21:42, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Karek i tell you what if you tell me where you are i will come and kill you then you can post me on one of the pkbords and a big majority of people in ruddlebank wont  see it there because they do not know about it and we shall see how fast somone comes for me. the point being when i see nuabreeds pk reports i add a pker but i dont know about any pkbords to look for any--Blk Gryphon

Karek, you make a good argument for not including PK sightings ''in general'' in the Current News section. However there is an argument for occasional inclusions of '''notorious''' PKers. Justification would be the same for including reports of any particular group that might be about to become active in the suburb. I don't know anything about the particular PKer cited, however I wouldn't want to put a blanket ban on PK sightings. Just stating a PKer sighting in pretty NPOV - he didn't ask everyone to shoot on sight, etc. I say let's just leave it for now and keep an eye on the NPOV for future posts. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 00:27, 29 June 2007 (BST)
:Notorious is a perspective thing. No one would view posting high profile zombies as NPOV, what's the real difference with PKers?--[[User:Karek|karek]] 13:19, 29 June 2007 (BST)
::Their already inside; barricades are useless, and they have shotguns. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:49, 29 June 2007 (BST)
::A posting of a high profile zombie ''group'' could be NPOV. And yes, being "notorious" can definitely be subjective. I suggest we let this last PK report slide, and ask that any future ones be justified before they are kept. We don't want to start an edit war, we just want to keep the News NPOV.<br>I would also say that all the discussion in the News section should be removed (as it's not NPOV reporting). I might even get around to that at some point, moving it to this talk page. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 18:36, 29 June 2007 (BST)
:::Yes, reporting of groups is fine, but individuals most definitely isn't. But if a PKer group or members of a PKer group are spotted in a suburb that would possibly be NPOV, depending how it is reported. Posting individual profiles of ''anyone'', though, most definitely isn't.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 19:14, 29 June 2007 (BST)
::::Karek, in the main I agree with you. And I want the News section to become/remain NPOV too, I'm just trying to be diplomatic. The people who have been posting News on this page have been doing so for a while with no disturbance. And if we just come in and retrospectively impose our(albeit correct) NPOV standards rigidly we are going to raise some hackles and possibly piss some people off. We shouldn't have to be editors for the News Section, so lets convince them to use NPOV themselves in future so that we don't have to be. Anything that isn't NPOV in future we can remove or edit (and copy the offending item to this talk page for discussion). Of course, you are free to do what you want, I'm just advocating <noinclude>[what I hope is]</noinclude> a more diplomatic approach. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 19:58, 29 June 2007 (BST)
:::::I'm talking about the future. A great example of why this type of thing should be done would be the [[Mornington]] page on which someone started posting peoples profiles accusing them of PKing when they hadn't done anything at all. That's one of the big reasons why this shouldn't be done, there is no way to actually get real PKers or real 'zombie spies'(seriously people, no one actually considered them useful they are all independent and I've never met a group that actually uses them outside of Extinction.). But yeah, in the future I will be deleting anything like that I see on ''any'' suburb page. Cause it most definitely isn't NPOV and isn't even really useful from a POV point of view beyond griefing that player.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 20:40, 29 June 2007 (BST)
::::::Remember to move it to the talk page, enemies are a bad thing. Ruddlebank's non-NPOV state could be coming from being bored in the SW corner, though. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:57, 29 June 2007 (BST)
:::::::That's a really poor excuse. Really, it is. But enough, this is settled now. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 23:21, 29 June 2007 (BST)
:::::::: I know :'(. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:57, 30 June 2007 (BST)
what the hell is NPOV? and Nuabreed is a very honest person and wouldent lie about such things (imo){{Unsigned|Blood red Bread}}
:NPOV stands for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view Neutral Point of View], as in, not biased towards one side or another. Suburb updates are encouraged to be written in this format, but is not always adhered to by all users. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 02:51, 30 June 2007 (BST)

:Right, I simply posted what I witnessed and I will contine to do. The essence of NPOV is '''Assert facts, including facts about opinions — but do not assert the opinions themselves.''' Whether a story could be interpreted as anti-zombie or anti-survivor is irrelevent, what matters is providing the facts and allowing the readers to from their own opinion. I posted the facts, it falls to each reader to make a individual decision whether they consider me a reliable source.--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 13:20, 2 July 2007 (BST)

===Overbarricading - June 22===

Just passing through...couldnt help but notice the rampant over barricading...whats the deal? --[[User:Bruce1nR|Bruce1nR]] 19:11, 22 June 2007 (BST)
:Dono. There should be an entrance at Rodeney Bank, or TIkhon General Hospital. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:07, 22 June 2007 (BST)
::So are St. Max's and St. Emma's Churches. There are entry points if you look around for them [[User:Cannywizard|Cannywizard]] 22:09, 22 June 2007 (BST)

==Ruddlebank News Update June 11th, 2007 and NPOV==
Did anyone read the comment about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPOV NPOV] above the news section? [[Ruddlebank#June_11th.2C_2007|June 11th, 2007]] and the comments under that are definitely not in that policy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPOV NPOV], it is completely biased towards Extinction and their members to the point where you actively mock them and insult them for deciding to announce they were going after Ruddlebank but with a flair.

Also you have an active zombie group who are actually breaking into buildings. It is documented by them and this suburb should probably be considered yellow, not green.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 10:34, 12 June 2007 (BST)

:karek, how can you say that the news is biased ''towards'' Extinction, when it's clearly survivor biased (exalting in survivors winning, etc). I agree it's not NPOV (and I really wish the writers would make a better effort to be NPOV), but it's not zombie orientated, it's ''survivor'' orientated. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 20:02, 23 June 2007 (BST)
::I meant bias in a bad way, as in they are bashing Extinction and refusing to acknowledge any of their actions in the suburb, we are very much on the same page here I think.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 01:17, 24 June 2007 (BST)
:::Okay, understood. And it's a real shame they don't keep the News NPOV. But for your future reference "bias towards" something is always positive, never negative. :) [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 01:39, 24 June 2007 (BST)
::::I'll be sure to keep that one in mind. You know they really should have someone in charge of making sure these pages are kept at least slightly NPOV.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 02:07, 24 June 2007 (BST)

:Wait...[[Extinction]] are breaking in to buildings in Ruddlebank? I've yet to see that happen in my wander up and down the west side of the suburb every so often, and they've by no means got further than that. I think it's a bit much to make the whole suburb yellow when we've only got a few zombies in the west, and not even in the south-west (I haven't seen a zombie down here for days, I have to go over to [[Foulkes Village | Foulkes]] for my daily zombie-in-a-barrel beating - a.k.a. axing squatters - now, although it does make them easy to find. Cheers for that, by the way, it gives our low levels a great place to get their XP up in a safe environment :) ). -- [[User:Amanil|Amanil]] 17:04, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Wow! I had no idea that the Selway Building ''is'' Ruddlebank! Omg! I learn stuff everyday! We'll try to keep the talkity-talk to the talk page, I guess. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:05, 12 June 2007 (BST)

:Wow! I had no idead you were a complete douchebag. Selway is in the suburb, it is being broken into, it is being broken into by active zombies, it is being broken into by an active and coorditanted zombie group who, whether you want to admit it or not, are in your suburb breaking into your shit. That is yellow, yellow asks for breakins, yellow asks for zombies, yellow does not ask for how many breakins or how many zombies, Ruddlebank is yellow. Yellow is still very survivor friendly but shows that there are breakins and there are zombies, a fact that you'll have to deal with 'cause it's true. --[[User:Karek|karek]] 14:49, 13 June 2007 (BST)

::"...that the Selway Building ''is'' Ruddlebank!" Notice the wording. One building under attack does not mean the suburb is yellow. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:41, 14 June 2007 (BST)
:::Yeah actually, active zombie attacks does mean the suburb is yellow, if a building is under attack you have active zombie attacks, specifically when the attacks are coordinated, which they are.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 01:07, 14 June 2007 (BST)
::::You're right. On a normal basis I'd agree, but this is Extinction. Their aim is to sack every NT in Malton, thus their main target is Selway, which happens to be their only target in Ruddlebank. Selway happens to have little to no one inside. When Extinction breaks in, survivors sweep by with headshots then the bodies are dumped outside. Hardly what I call a threat, more like an xp farm for the newbies. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:22, 14 June 2007 (BST)
::::: I still agree with Target Zombie. One building in the entire suburb has the odd break-in. Seting the entire place to yellow just for that would be misleading, as virtually everywhere else is fine. From the [[Suburb | map of the surburbs page]]: "Safe - Break-ins rare, no zombie groups. Moderate - Active zombies and break-ins, but no 50+ hostile hordes." Firstly, there aren't any zombie groups. A few zombies spilling over from adjacent suburbs hardly counts as a zombie group, does it? Next, on a suburb-wide scale break-ins are rare. If you stay anywhere else but in [[the Selway Building | Selway Building]] you can get a good night's sleep, ready for a lesiurely stroll through the zombie-free streets to the local zombie shooting range, also known as [[the Selway Building | Selway Building's]] lobby, where for a mere $5 you can enjoy a nice, easy and ''safe'' zombie-farm (refreshments provided). Also, you happen to be the only one who's suggested we set [[Ruddlebank]] to yellow. Perhaps you should get some more support if you really think your cause is worthy? Also, would you mind cleaning up your language? Swearing's unnecessary. --[[User:Amanil|Amanil]] 07:01, 14 June 2007 (BST)

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Tentative forays into NE Ruddlebank has shown multiple aggressive Zombies in the area. Not as large as the hordes that goes after malls, but groups of 7 and 4 are sighted; sufficient to break into most buildings to directly threaten survivors. -- [[User:Lynx7725|Lynx7725]] 17:57, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Malton fire department, you don't need to worry, It's already under control.
02:19, 4 May 2006 (BST)

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Die steigende Sonne stellt schließlich ein. Ein neugeborener Lebenwille verblassen. Von Sonne zu Mond, zu sonnen Mond sich… Ruhigen Schlaf geben den Lebentoten. {{unsigned|Saria231}}
:From Google.com/translate
:<pre>The rising sun adjusts finally. A newborn life will fade. From sun to moon to sun moon itself… Calm sleep give the life-dead.</pre> {{User:Cheeser/sig3}} 06:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== Barricade plan ==
Moved to '''[[Ruddlebank Barricade Plan]]''' -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[Zombie Squad|ZS]] [[PA Posse|PA]] [[Dead Animals|DA]]</sup> 06:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== Zombies in SLY PD ==

hello everyone, hope you're having a good time slaying zombies.

I ceratinly was, until SLY PD got broken into and everyone killed, I have 2 syringes but cannot use them on myself (duh!)

so, anyone feeling like heading over and riviving me should do so ;) I also have some medical stuff if you're infected :) [[user:nRnRQBBAN|nRnRQBBAN]]

=== June 4th ===

I just want to say sorry for all the the trouble i caused in ruddlebank,
i am currently now out of town and settling down, i still hate Legion of the octopope, 
but i wont edit or vandilise their posts ever again, cya all --[[User:Montana8|Montana8]] 19:55, 4 June 2007 (BST)

== Extinction group ==

Just read the 11th June report. Could someone explain what it means?

is it now forbidden to barricade and revive and search by our laws...

Or are we at war with extinction group?

If war, you can count on me trying to do my best.

:Extinction is a pro-zombie group that works to end the survivor presence in Malton. They are organized, and, as such, one must coordinate with other survivors in order to combat them. They are determined, but not unstoppable. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 01:53, 12 June 2007 (BST)

::Relax, those are their rules not the suburb's. As it stands, they aren't holding a single resource point in the suburb so their claims seem a bit ridiculous. If you want to fight them, head over to the Selway, there's usually one or two milling about.--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 16:53, 13 June 2007 (BST)

:::Aye, I'm at the NT 2 west of Sly, there's about 18 there but also some octopopes etc etc, they're all doing a great job. -- [[User:nRnRQBBAN|nRnRQBBAN]]

== Suburb Groups ==

Nuabreed, I notice you removed Extinction from this the "Known groups in this suburb". They still consider themselves active in this suburb. I know it's good to tidy up wiki pages, but don't you think that removing them so soon is a bit premature? Anyway, I've added them back in for now. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 10:17, 25 June 2007 (BST)

:Sorry about that, in my defence, while they may consider themselves active, they're not actually present in the suburb. I can't find a single Extinction member out there and their own website seems to suggest they've abandoned the area. In fact, someone who I assume is you is encouraging any new recruits to make their way to New Arkham.

:http://extinction101.proboards100.com/index.cgi?board=sw&action=display&thread=1180936463&page=3

:--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 13:09, 2 July 2007 (BST)

::Okay, you can remove us for now. In fact, I'll do it for you. We'll return at some point, I'm sure (yes, I'm with Extinction). You beat us here. You are very organised, and we don't have the numbers. Is a week or so a suitable time to wait before removing beaten groups? [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[User_talk:Armareum|.]] 05:36, 6 July 2007 (BST)

:::Well, whether or not any particular group is doing well or not so well has little to do with it. Having members operating in the suburb is the only criteria. But thanks for removing yourselves. The active groups list is my ''bete noire'', look at the [[Mercenaries]], two members but allegedly active in nine (I counted) suburbs.--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 09:54, 6 July 2007 (BST)

::::Oops, forgot to remove Extinction! Removed now.<br>I had a look at that group - how lame. And their grammar isn't particularly good. I might flame them in their talk pages so they try to come and PK me! Pkers like them just suck. [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[User_talk:Armareum|.]] 10:37, 6 July 2007 (BST)

== New suburb setup ==

Some suburbs have been taking up a new layout. [[Talk:NPOV#suburb setup|Here]] is the plan and [[Dulston|this]] is what it looks like. Now I don't think we need to follow everything word for word, but the setup in general is neat. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:32, 18 July 2007 (BST)

: Looks good.--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 16:15, 8 August 2007 (BST)

::Done--[[User:Nuabreed|Nuabreed]] 19:28, 21 August 2007 (BST)